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Derek: Jarhead thoughts. Now. It's one that I don't really like, but find myself defending usually. Much like Domino for some reason.
D_Davis
03-29-2010, 03:38 AM
I'm pretty sure that the grumbles from the subsequent indigestion just registered at least a 4 on the Richter here in Seattle.
I felt it, too.
Derek
03-29-2010, 04:10 AM
Derek: Jarhead thoughts. Now. It's one that I don't really like, but find myself defending usually. Much like Domino for some reason.
Understandable. Deakins cinematography is often great and I like the concept on focusing on the boring aspects of war, the waiting and the obsessive need to put one's training into action. What I didn't like, particularly in the first half, is how the film tries to play both sides in playing up the sense of displacement and isolation and the camaraderie and macho bonding of the soldiers. The near-celebration, or at least embracing, or the latter never geled with the former, often undercutting it and thus making the film seem confused about what it was really trying to convey about the wartime experience. Had there been a few more truly compelling sequences, there might be enough to recommend, but ultimately it was too wishy-washy to really be all that effective.
Dead & Messed Up
03-29-2010, 05:01 AM
Logan's Run
"Carousel is a lie!"
Endearing in its unabashed cheese, Logan's Run is a mishmash of dystopian, post-apoc trappings, but Michael York and Jenny Agutter make this ridiculousness real and, after a time, kind of lovable. York plays Logan 5, a "sandman" who chases those running away from the city's strict no-one-over-30 policy. Of course, Logan must eventually become the Very Thing He Chases, but at least he has the good sense to drag along the stunning Jenny Agutter, whose eyes are as lovely as her frequently exposed breasts. Some terrific effects (the ruined Washington DC) do battle with less impressive tricks (a laughable rolling robot), but even at its least convincing moments, I found myself involved in the plight of the two heroes, and I realized I genuinely wanted them to succeed. Maybe that comes from their ability to sell the high melodrama. Certainly some comes from Jenny Agutter's beautiful eyes.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/deadandmessedup/jennyagutter.jpg
Grouchy
03-29-2010, 05:23 AM
Have you ever seen the interpretation of the sniper sequence where the guy considers it a commentary on the JFK assassination? Pretty cool idea and not without some interesting supporting evidence.
It's part 6 on the following page:
http://www.collativelearning.com/FMJ%20contents.html
Yeah, I'd seen that before, and each time I see it it sounds more convincing.
I noticed the problematic continuity of the sniper this time, and although at the moment I shrugged it off as a manipulative way to convey suspense and fear, you can never tell with Kubrick.
Grouchy
03-29-2010, 05:25 AM
I just finished watching Husbands and Wives. It's sort of Allen channeling Cassavettes - definitively not as intense, but it's pretty good stuff. It's funny, but considering Allen is a mature filmmaker with mature themes, I seem to have outgrown the fascination for his movies pretty quickly. I appreciate them, and deeply love the best of them such as Manhattan and Crimes and Misdemeanors, but they don't blow me away like they did in my teen years. Regardless, good movie.
Understandable.
You are, likewise, understood. Awesome Martha score, too. I need to finish up Fassbinder. Got a handful left.
Derek
03-29-2010, 06:41 AM
You are, likewise, understood. Awesome Martha score, too. I need to finish up Fassbinder. Got a handful left.
Yeah, Martha's brilliant. It's not only the best of the three 1974 films I've seen from him (only one to go w00t :)) but one of his best period. I've only seen 13...how many have you seen out of curiosity? Are all his films available or are you not counting some of the tv stuff that's probably not out in the US?
Ivan Drago
03-29-2010, 06:43 AM
I just heard a loud groan, all the way from Portland.
Spinal probably doesn't want to know why I hate Wes Anderson then...
Qrazy
03-29-2010, 06:44 AM
Yeah, Martha's brilliant. It's not only the best of the three 1974 films I've seen from him (only one to go w00t :)) but one of his best period. I've only seen 13...how many have you seen out of curiosity? Are all his films available or are you not counting some of the tv stuff that's probably not out in the US?
Have you been watching Breaking Bad?
Derek
03-29-2010, 06:53 AM
Spinal probably doesn't want to know why I hate Wes Anderson then...
I think you hate him because you want to be cool and different to impress people.
Ivan Drago
03-29-2010, 06:56 AM
I think you hate him because he's different for the sake of being different and thinks he great for it, and shows this in his movies.
You were close. :D
B-side
03-29-2010, 06:56 AM
Only one of Fassbinder's films aren't available period.
Derek
03-29-2010, 06:58 AM
Have you been watching Breaking Bad?
No, I'm going to start downloading to catch up though. It's only on week 3 right? How is it so far?*
*Aside from the unfortunate absence of Krysten Ritter's hawtness.
Yeah, Martha's brilliant. It's not only the best of the three 1974 films I've seen from him (only one to go w00t :)) but one of his best period. I've only seen 13...how many have you seen out of curiosity? Are all his films available or are you not counting some of the tv stuff that's probably not out in the US?
I've seen 26 of his films. There is much that I am resigned to knowing I will probably never see, but there are a few that I've simply just never gotten around to. There was a time, maybe three years ago, where I watched nothing but his films for about a month. It was insane, but very rewarding. One of the best, surely.
B-side
03-29-2010, 07:06 AM
I'm watching Querelle right now. It's OK.
Derek
03-29-2010, 07:11 AM
You were close. :D
No, I was dead-on and the only reason you brought it up is because you're pretentious and need all of us to recognize that you're different so we'll think you're cool when we all really know that you're only saying it for sake of being different, but you know that we know and that scares you which is why you sleep with a night light on and take a flashlight with you when you go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.*
Only one of Fassbinder's films aren't available period.
Good to hear! Which one?
*Just fucking with you. :)
B-side
03-29-2010, 07:13 AM
Good to hear! Which one?
*Just fucking with you. :)
For those that may be curious, the only one that is not available is his 1981 doc Theater in Trance.
Qrazy
03-29-2010, 07:14 AM
No, I'm going to start downloading to catch up though. It's only on week 3 right? How is it so far?*
*Aside from the unfortunate absence of Krysten Ritter's hawtness.
Only the second episode has aired (tonight). It's good stuff so far.
Derek
03-29-2010, 07:18 AM
I've seen 26 of his films. There is much that I am resigned to knowing I will probably never see, but there are a few that I've simply just never gotten around to. There was a time, maybe three years ago, where I watched nothing but his films for about a month. It was insane, but very rewarding. One of the best, surely.
Awesome, I went a little kick myself a couple years ago when I watched most of the ones I've seen. Have you seen Berlin Alexanderplatz yet? If not, you need to. Richard Linklater said he once watched it over a 3-day weekend and since I know you don't want to be outdone by him, you should watch it 2 days max. ;)
I'm watching Querelle right now. It's OK.
Haven't heard too many good things about that one, but I'm always interested to see director's last films. From the clips I've seen, it looks very garish, like the epilogue of BA, though I don't mean that as a bad thing. If there's one director who knows how to be garish, Fassbinder's the one.
B-side
03-29-2010, 07:20 AM
Haven't heard too many good things about that one, but I'm always interested to see director's last films. From the clips I've seen, it looks very garish, like the epilogue of BA, though I don't mean that as a bad thing. If there's one director who knows how to be garish, Fassbinder's the one.
Garish sounds about right. It's very artificial, and astoundingly gay, but none of these things bother me at all, so I've gotten some enjoyment out of it.
Awesome, I went a little kick myself a couple years ago when I watched most of the ones I've seen. Have you seen Berlin Alexanderplatz yet? If not, you need to. Richard Linklater said he once watched it over a 3-day weekend and since I know you don't want to be outdone by him, you should watch it 2 days max. ;)
Astonishingly, that is one of my blind spots. I was waiting for so long for the Criterion that by the time it was released, I had run out of 'binder steam.
I like Querelle.
I will accept your challenge (somewhere down the line, can't promise soon). Should be easy. I still like to brag about watching 6 Jerry Lewis films back to back. Literally. Only breaks were restroom ones. They were fueling me. Never felt anything like it before or since. I also went on a huge Hitchcock binge and have seen all but I think four now, not counting the impossible to find early ones.
And more recently, I may get the chance to see all the Cremaster films in one day. Hopefully I don't have to work.
Ivan Drago
03-29-2010, 07:25 AM
Good to hear! Which one?
*Just fucking with you. :)
Wait, fucking with me or Brightside?
I'm lost right now.
Derek
03-29-2010, 07:30 AM
I will accept your challenge (somewhere down the line, can't promise soon). Should be easy. I still like to brag about watching 6 Jerry Lewis films back to back. Literally. Only breaks were restroom ones. They were fueling me. Never felt anything like it before or since. I also went on a huge Hitchcock binge and have seen all but I think four now, not counting the impossible to find early ones.
Pssh, I once watched 6 Jerry Lewis films AND Shoah in one sitting with no breaks because I peed in a jar like a man.
That is awesome though. I'm a fan of the Jer.
And more recently, I may get the chance to see all the Cremaster films in one day. Hopefully I don't have to work.
Definitely not something to miss. I wasn't really a fan of 1, 2, 4 or 5, but holy shit is 3 amazing. It does try to be different, so watch out for that. ;)
Derek
03-29-2010, 07:31 AM
Wait, fucking with me or Brightside?
I'm lost right now.
Edited to make sense, but in short, you.
B-side
03-29-2010, 07:33 AM
Ah. I thought he was talking to me. :P
Skitch
03-29-2010, 11:31 AM
Fine. Anti Christ is the greatest, most sensible, reaonable, logical and coherant movie ever made. It's so amazing. Even the slow motion nut rain. Done.
balmakboor
03-29-2010, 01:52 PM
I'm still getting the hang of this. I submitted my review of Hot Tub Time Machine to the local paper and the editor replied saying, "We don't think 'getting laid' is appropriate for the paper. We've changed it to 'having sex.'"
Of course, the two phrases are entirely different in meaning and my choice is far more reflective of the movie, but what can you do?
Cherish
03-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Varda's The beaches of Agnes is a wonderful documentary on the effects of memory on an artist, with Varda skillfully weaving family history through voiceover or, more interestingly, recreations with commentary on those recreations. Her career comes off looking positively fascinating (especially compared to the scant accessibility of her works in R1), and it really makes you feel as though you could watch her entire canon with an eye toward newfound appreciation. The mirrors are nicely meta, and her whole approach to the work reminds you of a lovely grandmother, patiently telling you her story before time takes her away. Gorgeous to view, and provoking to consider. Highly recommended stuff.
I enjoyed this. I loved the vigorous editing, that made the smallest memories visual and fascinating. The mirrors were lovely. The movie slowed down when she went to Los Angeles though -- both the images and the ideas really dropped off. It does make me want to see more of her work, particularly Jacquot de Nantes and Les Creatures.
balmakboor
03-29-2010, 03:39 PM
For a moment, I thought Von Trier had something new to worry about...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/michigan-militia-group-preparing-anti-christ-web-site-says/
Sycophant
03-29-2010, 05:59 PM
It's a couple pages behind us now, but the main problem with "artsy-fartsy" is it's a stupid-sounding word that makes you sound stupid when you say/write it.
balmakboor
03-29-2010, 06:05 PM
So, what's the concensus on "old fart?" I'm one of those you know.
MadMan
03-29-2010, 08:13 PM
The Goods was funny mainly because it went over the top and broke the rules of political correctness. Even though it lacks the likable characters that populated a much better comedy from last year, The Hangover. I still enjoyed it regardless-and Will Ferrell's cameo is the funniest moment in the entire movie.
baby doll
03-30-2010, 12:32 AM
I still enjoyed it regardless-and Will Ferrell's cameo is the funniest moment in the entire movie.I prefer to think of it as Gina Gershon's cameo, but never-mind. That movie was mega-lame.
balmakboor
03-30-2010, 01:02 AM
I'm loving Twitter. Because of it I came across this just now:
Complete list of Criterions on Netflix streaming. http://bit.ly/bgU4QI
Qrazy
03-30-2010, 04:56 AM
The Seventh Victim
When did Marie and Gregory fall in love? That seemed incredibly arbitrary to me.
hey it's ethan
03-30-2010, 01:43 PM
The Holy Mountain (while stoned) - That'll do Jodorowsky, that'll do.
Guys: Paul Verheoven is reading from his new book Jesus of Nazareth tonite. With the move from NYC, I was resolved to never get to see him. How wrong I was. I went from a super foul mood this morning to one of near rapture.
D_Davis
03-30-2010, 06:15 PM
Guys: Paul Verheoven is reading from his new book Jesus of Nazareth tonite. With the move from NYC, I was resolved to never get to see him. How wrong I was. I went from a super foul mood this morning to one of near rapture.
This day just got 100 times more awesome. First the Bloodhound Gang thing, and now this. I woke up in a terrible mood, ready for a terrible day, and things have really turned around!
I went from a super foul mood this morning...
I woke up in a terrible mood, ready for a terrible day...
Hmmm... coincidence? Board games? Beer?
Fezzik
03-30-2010, 06:37 PM
Hmmm... coincidence? Board games? Beer?
That's really weird, because I've been in one of those moods today where even the smallest things are making me angry.
Must be something in the water...or the air.
Qrazy
03-30-2010, 06:40 PM
This day just got 100 times more awesome. First the Bloodhound Gang thing, and now this. I woke up in a terrible mood, ready for a terrible day, and things have really turned around!
Have you ever played the game Pit (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/140/pit)?
It's pretty sweet.
D_Davis
03-30-2010, 06:54 PM
Have you ever played the game Pit (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/140/pit)?
It's pretty sweet.
Yes. Used to play that with my parents. It was totally popular in the '80s. Must've been a Reagan thing.
Have you ever played the game Pit (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/140/pit)?
It's pretty sweet.
I love Pit. I get surprisingly mean.
MadMan
03-30-2010, 09:29 PM
I'm loving Twitter. Because of it I came across this just now:
Complete list of Criterions on Netflix streaming. http://bit.ly/bgU4QIOkay I only hate Twitter less now. Slightly less, actually. I've only seen roughly 20 some of those, sadly.
Spun Lepton
03-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Pretention and "artsy-fartsy" tend to go hand-in-hand. Art becomes artsy-fartsy when pretention enters the picture.
I've also noticed over the years that pretentious people -- especially the ones who are offended when the word is even mentioned -- tend to gravitate toward pretentious things, claiming that said pretentious things aren't actually pretentious at all, but brilliant or misunderstood or "underrated" masterpieces.
Feh.
Rowland
03-30-2010, 10:24 PM
Artsy-fartsy just sounds stupid, and it doesn't help that I've usually only heard it used in the real-world in a condescending context, usually by people whose favorite movies are directed by the likes of Ron Howard and Joel Schumacher.
Sycophant
03-30-2010, 10:29 PM
Motherfucking CULTURE WARS on my Match Cut this week!
Sycophant
03-30-2010, 10:34 PM
Also, Rowland is right about everything.
D_Davis
03-30-2010, 10:34 PM
I tend to like things that are artsy just for the sake of being artsy, or weird just because, or not because; it's neat. When given the choice to experience something mundane, or to experience something mundane made fantastic through artistic means, I'll almost always take the later. I also like pretentious things, and especially self-indulgent music.
Winston*
03-30-2010, 10:37 PM
Mini film festival. Which of these films should I prioritise? I've seen Antichrist, White Ribbon and Still Walking and The Hurt Locker is coming to regular cinemas.
http://www.worldcinemashowcase.co.nz/Thefilms2.html
Rowland
03-30-2010, 10:37 PM
Hmm, shall my first viewing of a non-DTV 2010 release be Chloe, Greenberg, or Ghost Writer? My pervish leanings suggest the Egoyan, my asshole-ish predispostion suggests the Baumbach, while my taste for pulpy thrillers directed with gusto by auteurs suggests the Polanski. Choices, choices...
Sycophant
03-30-2010, 10:38 PM
I haven't seen it myself yet, but LOVE EXPOSURE.
Rowland
03-30-2010, 10:56 PM
I'd prioritize Love Exposure, Everyone Else, and Antichrist, which I've seen already but would love to witness in a cinema.
Dead & Messed Up
03-30-2010, 11:01 PM
Wait, which one is the most artsy-fartsy?
Spun Lepton
03-30-2010, 11:09 PM
Wait, which one is the most artsy-fartsy?
Trash Humpers
Spinal
03-30-2010, 11:12 PM
Pretention and "artsy-fartsy" tend to go hand-in-hand. Art becomes artsy-fartsy when pretention enters the picture.
I've also noticed over the years that pretentious people -- especially the ones who are offended when the word is even mentioned -- tend to gravitate toward pretentious things, claiming that said pretentious things aren't actually pretentious at all, but brilliant or misunderstood or "underrated" masterpieces.
Feh.
And in my experience, the term 'artsy-fartsy' is seldom used in conjunction with any serious attempt to engage the work in question. It is typically used as a quickly-applied label, intended to dimiss the artist's efforts in one fell swoop and discourage defenders to come forward lest they be similarly judged.
Sycophant
03-30-2010, 11:14 PM
This conversation. Is it the same one we had about Match Cut being pretentious like 2 weeks ago, only broadened somewhat now?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/maragirl/artsyfartsy.jpg
Sycophant
03-30-2010, 11:23 PM
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Dead & Messed Up
03-30-2010, 11:35 PM
I have to watch Aguirre tonight. It goes off Netflix Instant on the first of April - boo!
MadMan
03-30-2010, 11:42 PM
I have to watch Aguirre tonight. It goes off Netflix Instant on the first of April - boo!Well, I'm glad I've already seen it. Although a rewatch wouldn't hurt. I'm in the "Its a great film, but not worthy of my Top 20" camp.
Also, this site can't be pretentious. If that was the case, people like me would have been booted a long time ago :P
chrisnu
03-31-2010, 12:04 AM
Hmm, shall my first viewing of a non-DTV 2010 release be Chloe, Greenberg, or Ghost Writer? My pervish leanings suggest the Egoyan, my asshole-ish predispostion suggests the Baumbach, while my taste for pulpy thrillers directed with gusto by auteurs suggests the Polanski. Choices, choices...
Greenberg! Although I am interested in Chloe.
NickGlass
03-31-2010, 12:19 AM
Mini film festival. Which of these films should I prioritise? I've seen Antichrist, White Ribbon and Still Walking and The Hurt Locker is coming to regular cinemas.
http://www.worldcinemashowcase.co.nz/Thefilms2.html
For chrissakes, see Everyone Else. As for the rest, Herb and Dorothy, Fish Tank and A Single Man are flawed yet fine. Louise-Michel is horrendous.
megladon8
03-31-2010, 12:21 AM
I have to watch Aguirre tonight. It goes off Netflix Instant on the first of April - boo!
ENJOY!
It's fantastic.
Spun Lepton
03-31-2010, 01:14 AM
And in my experience, the term 'artsy-fartsy' is seldom used in conjunction with any serious attempt to engage the work in question.
Not just dismissive, but flippant. As such, an equally flippant response would be appropriate. I would recommend your typical "Oh, shut the fuck up, dude" but use whatever works best for you ... :)
It is typically used as a quickly-applied label, intended to dimiss the artist's efforts in one fell swoop and discourage defenders to come forward lest they be similarly judged.
I don't know if I'd go that far.
Spun Lepton
03-31-2010, 02:25 AM
Stroszek also expires tomorrow. Aww, man!
Skitch
03-31-2010, 02:50 AM
This conversation. Is it the same one we had about Match Cut being pretentious like 2 weeks ago, only broadened somewhat now?
I believe I was to blame for that one as well. I guess I can stop assuming I'm on everyones ignore list.
It is fascintating to me, that for all stuff I say around here that gets completely ignored, its the statements I feel are least controversial that seem to get the most hostility.
Skitch
03-31-2010, 02:57 AM
And in my experience, the term 'artsy-fartsy' is seldom used in conjunction with any serious attempt to engage the work in question. It is typically used as a quickly-applied label, intended to dimiss the artist's efforts in one fell swoop and discourage defenders to come forward lest they be similarly judged.
That was hardly my intention, and in my defense, I did present a few real questions. Response? Zero.
B-side
03-31-2010, 03:00 AM
Stroszek also expires tomorrow. Aww, man!
Just watch the ending. It's the only interesting part of the film.
Winston*
03-31-2010, 03:04 AM
Just watch the ending. It's the only interesting part of the film.
You do not deserve Bruno S.
B-side
03-31-2010, 03:09 AM
You do not deserve Bruno S.
Bruno's cool with me.
Spun Lepton
03-31-2010, 03:21 AM
Well, I'm glad I've already seen it. Although a rewatch wouldn't hurt. I'm in the "Its a great film, but not worthy of my Top 20" camp.
I was a little disappointed by the ending, but extremely impressed by what Herzog created out of so few resources.
Derek
03-31-2010, 03:33 AM
I could be wrong, but do you really think Willem Dafoe having nuts rain on his head in slow motion is a critical part of the narrative?
Why does everything in a film have to be a critical part of the narrative? Can a film not attempt expression without it relating directly to story or character development? That shot, however, is particularly meaningful in terms of the film's themes. In Herzogian terms, the nuts pelting the metal roof show the "cruel indifference of nature", a nature that, in the film's MO, is intrinsically linked to the feminine while Dafoe's character is an unnecessary intruder whose logic and reason don't stand up to the chaotic, destructive forces of nature. So did it have to be in slow motion? No, but it's a powerful and vivid image that directly relates to the film's core ideas.
Winston*
03-31-2010, 03:41 AM
I think the nuts represent Willem Dafoe's nuts.
Skitch
03-31-2010, 03:42 AM
Why does everything in a film have to be a critical part of the narrative? Can a film not attempt expression without it relating directly to story or character development?
It doesn't, I just don't understand why it's acceptable in this instance, and considered a valid complaint in other films.
EDIT: Also, my question was relative to criticism I was getting at the time...so...you know...it was contextual.
Skitch
03-31-2010, 03:44 AM
I think the nuts represent Willem Dafoe's nuts.
The
blood orgasm jerk off scene probably scarred me for life
so you're probably right. Willemonachin.
Derek
03-31-2010, 03:54 AM
It doesn't, I just don't understand why it's acceptable in this instance, and considered a valid complaint in other films.
Because it's a 5-second shot, not 75% of the film a la Zach Snyder. It's acceptable for exactly what you mention below, context. Slow-mo is often used as a lazy, short hand way to amplify the importance of action, other times it punctuates an action scene and works beautifully and other times it is powerful and effective in evoking a certain mood. It's kind of silly thing to argue about - take any film technique and you can find films where they work wonderfully and film's where they're mishandled. But if you're going to label a technique "artsy-fartsy", don't be surprised when people look for actual reasons as to why you think it doesn't work.
EDIT: Also, my question was relative to criticism I was getting at the time...so...you know...it was contextual.
You complained that no one answered your questions and that was the only one I could find. I'm not sure how your question relies on context - you asked if that shot was necessary and I explained how it's important...
Skitch
03-31-2010, 03:59 AM
I'm not sure how your question relies on context - you asked if that shot was necessary and I explained how it's important...
Because I didn't really care about it. :lol: I was showing that no matter how I've tried to break stuff down here, I usually get no response, so who knew saying what I did would set off such an argument. I really had no clue that everybody had such a passion for hating such a term...or that Anti Christ had such a loyal following.
Spaceman Spiff
03-31-2010, 04:08 AM
Am I the only one who found Charlotte unbearably sexy throughout the entire movie? I'm guessing no, but I also have no idea what this says about me, (or you, you sick fucks).
Derek
03-31-2010, 04:17 AM
I really had no clue that everybody had such a passion for hating such a term...or that Anti Christ had such a loyal following.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w274/willzweigart/the_more_you_know.jpg
Mysterious Dude
03-31-2010, 04:19 AM
The
blood orgasm jerk off scene probably scarred me for life
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to enjoy an orgasm again.
soitgoes...
03-31-2010, 05:02 AM
Mini film festival. Which of these films should I prioritise? I've seen Antichrist, White Ribbon and Still Walking and The Hurt Locker is coming to regular cinemas.
http://www.worldcinemashowcase.co.nz/Thefilms2.html
There are two pages of posts between this one and my response, but I'm gonna throw Love Exposure out there. We'll see if Match-Cut's got my back as I catch up on the thread.
Guys: Paul Verhoeven is reading from his new book Jesus of Nazareth tonite. With the move from NYC, I was resolved to never get to see him. How wrong I was. I went from a super foul mood this morning to one of near rapture.
Guys: yes, yes, a thousand times yes. I have now touched Robert Altman, Werner Herzog, and Paul Verhoeven. His discussion about his book was endlessly fascinating (and captivating, given the man's bustling energy). At the risk of sounding corny, I will just say that I am feeling very inspired.
Boner M
03-31-2010, 06:55 AM
I think the nuts represent Willem Dafoe's nuts.
Literally just did a spit take.
soitgoes...
03-31-2010, 09:34 AM
Fat City is Huston's masterpiece. The end is so spot on perfect. Leading up to the end scene, I thought how in the world he was going to end this. I wasn't sure where it was leading, and then we are given the coffee scene.
B-side
03-31-2010, 10:08 AM
Chameleon (Jost, 1978) -- Better in theory than in practice. Gets much more interesting after the halfway point. Very cool little performance piece near the end done in totally surrounding darkness being the highlight.
The Ladies Man (Lewis, 1961) -- Intermittenly funny. Surprisingly cinematic camera. Lewis is charming and off-putting in almost equal measure.
Knife in the Water (Polanski, 1962) -- Fairly intense stuff. One-upsmanship gone awry. Neat ambiguous ending. Some cool shots despite the restrictive setting.
Fat City is Huston's masterpiece. The end is so spot on perfect. Leading up to the end scene, I thought how in the world he was going to end this. I wasn't sure where it was leading, and then we are given the coffee scene.
Yep, completely agree. I think Qrazy got me to watch this... and he was right. :eek: :D
Boner M
03-31-2010, 11:56 AM
Fat City is awesome though I think the very final minutes are what really makes the film. So, so poignant.
B-side
03-31-2010, 12:16 PM
Hey Boner. Wanna rank your Jost viewings for me?
BTW, someone just upped a rip of Slow Moves to KG. Angel City was upped recently as well, but no one's ripped it yet.
Boner M
03-31-2010, 12:18 PM
Hey Boner. Wanna rank your Jost viewings for me?
BTW, someone just upped a rip of Slow Moves to KG. Angel City was upped recently as well, but no one's ripped it yet.
1. Last Chants...
2. this video of him singing in his hotel room in the Phillipines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv28jAIvetU)
So yeah... I need to catch up.
Raiders
03-31-2010, 12:52 PM
To Live and Die in L.A. (Friedkin, 1985) ***½
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Ezee E
03-31-2010, 01:04 PM
Saw Bruce Willis filming a scene in New Orleans. He was running down the street, shooting a gun at something. Extras running for life in the background. Camera was from inside a busted cop car.
This could be any Bruce Willis movie.
Raiders
03-31-2010, 01:11 PM
Saw Bruce Willis filming a scene in New Orleans. He was running down the street, shooting a gun at something. Extras running for life in the background. Camera was from inside a busted cop car.
This could be any Bruce Willis movie.
True, but I can tell you it is Red (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/).
Standard fare I'm sure, but that's a pretty wicked cast.
Boner M
03-31-2010, 01:26 PM
http://www.emoticonhq.com/images/ICQ/thumbsup.jpg
Aye, it held up and is even better than I remember it being when I saw it in high school. It's really a film of pure momentum, almost Bresson-like in its fleet, staccato rhythms (that opening scene!), and yet I think Friedkin somehow manages to sustain a nice emotional undercurrent even as the film is almost entirely focused on external action and the elision of character psychology. Also Wang Chung's score has grown on me - the surging synths and electro beats obviously correlate with the film's sense of forward motion, but there are some moments where it mimics the diegetic sounds effectively, like the ringing siren in the airport scene.
Plus, it's just such an fn' cool film.
number8
03-31-2010, 03:11 PM
Antichrist > Bruce Willis > The term "artsy fartsy".
bac0n
03-31-2010, 03:50 PM
Saw Bruce Willis filming a scene in New Orleans. He was running down the street, shooting a gun at something. Extras running for life in the background. Camera was from inside a busted cop car.
This could be any Bruce Willis movie.
It's the latest Die Hard movie: Die Hard with Crawfish Etouffe'.
Antichrist > Bruce Willis > The term "artsy fartsy".
My Pictoral Representation of the Term "Artsy Fartsy">>>>
I was robbed of that art scholarship. ROBBED.
Skitch
03-31-2010, 04:14 PM
Its time for...NAME...THAT...MOVIE! Made for tv made in the 80's starring (I think) Wilford Brimly as a time machine inventor. The time machine was fridge sized and spun the occupant around super fast then POOF! Some kid hops in the thing and goes to the fifties (I think). Can't find anything on this, and I need to see it again.
Ivan Drago
03-31-2010, 04:31 PM
Saw Bruce Willis filming a scene in New Orleans. He was running down the street, shooting a gun at something. Extras running for life in the background. Camera was from inside a busted cop car.
This could be any Bruce Willis movie.
Not Stylo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9vAOzYz-Qs), though.
Raiders
03-31-2010, 05:27 PM
Its time for...NAME...THAT...MOVIE! Made for tv made in the 80's starring (I think) Wilford Brimly as a time machine inventor. The time machine was fridge sized and spun the occupant around super fast then POOF! Some kid hops in the thing and goes to the fifties (I think). Can't find anything on this, and I need to see it again.
Best I could find was The Blue Yonder (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088831/).
Skitch
03-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Best I could find was The Blue Yonder (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088831/).
My god, I think that's it! How did you figure that out?
Raiders
03-31-2010, 05:38 PM
My god, I think that's it! How did you figure that out?
Imdb's Advanced Title Search (the new 'power search'). Looked for films in the 1980s with "time machine" in their plot. Was only a handful and that one seemed to match fairly well.
That search is fantastic, Raiders.
AND YET I STILL CAN'T FIND THIS FILM:
So, every few years I bring this up in the hopes that someone will help me.
There's a film that I saw when I was very young that freaked me out, and there's some imagery in it that I've never gotten over. I've always wanted to watch it again to try and sort it out.
Please remember that I was about five years old when I saw this, and I may not have understood it very well. Here's what I remember.
It was in black and white.
The main character was a woman, I think blonde, who was a murderess. As I remember, she liked to kill people with an axe, and I'm pretty sure once she used a guillotine. It seemed to me that she pretended not to be killing people by putting wood over their necks and chopping at that. (I may be confused, here.) It also seemed that other people knew she was killing people, but pretended not to notice.
It may have been a period piece. I seem to recall a scene in a saloon, or similar.
At the very end, the woman is standing at the edge of a cliff over a river, like she's going to jump. A man says, "Wait! I need to tell you who you are!" and she says, "I know who I am" and commits suicide.
I've done every google search I can think of through the years to try and find this thing. My only hope is that one of you cinephiles may have encountered it.
balmakboor
03-31-2010, 06:07 PM
I am very curious about Dillinger is Dead.
Skitch
03-31-2010, 06:18 PM
Imdb's Advanced Title Search (the new 'power search'). Looked for films in the 1980s with "time machine" in their plot. Was only a handful and that one seemed to match fairly well.
Apparently I need to spend a little more time on IMDB instead of merely skimming it like a movie Wiki.
The search did, however, turn up a film titled The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!?
Which is nice.
Glass Co.
03-31-2010, 06:50 PM
That search is fantastic, Raiders.
AND YET I STILL CAN'T FIND THIS FILM:
I think maybe you should read this story:
NetNostalgia Forum - Television (local)
Skyshale033
Subject: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Does anyone remember this kid's show? It was called Candle Cove and I must have been 6 or 7, I never found reference to it anywhere so I think it was on a local station around 1971 or 1972. I lived in Ironton at the time. I don't remember which station, but I do remember it was on at a weird time, like 4:00 PM.
mike_painter65
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
it seems really familiar to me.....i grew up outside of ashland and was 9 yrs old in 72. candle cov...wasit about pirates? i remember a pirate marionete at the mouth of a cave talking to a little girl
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
YES! Okay I'm not crazy! I remember Pirate Percy. I was always kind of scared of him. He looked like he was built from parts of other dolls, real low-budget. His head was an old porcelain baby doll, looked like an antique that didn't belong on the body. I don't remember what station this was! I don't think it was WTSF though.
Jaren_2005
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Sorry to ressurect this old thread but I know exactly what show you mean, Skyshale. I think Candle Cove ran for only a couple months in '71, not '72. I was 12 and I watched it a few times with my brother. It was channel 58, whatever station that was. My mom would let me switch to it after the news- Let me see what I remember.
It took place in Candle cove, and it was about a little girl who imagined herself to be friends with pirates. The pirate ship was called the Laughingstock, and Pirate Percy wasn't a very good pirate because he got scared too easily. And there was calliope music constantly playing. Don't remember the girl's name. Janice or Jade or something. Think it was Janice.
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Thank you Jaren!!! Memories flooded back when you mentioned the Laughingstock and channel 58. I remember the bow of the ship was a wooden smiling face, with the lower jaw submerged. It looked like it was swallowing the sea and it had that awful Ed Wynn voice and laugh. I especially remember how jarring it was when they switched from the wooden/plastic model, to the foam puppet version of the head that talked.
mike_painter65
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
ha ha i remember now too. :) do you remember this part skyshale: "you have...to go...INSIDE"
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Ugh mike, I got a chill reading that. Yes I remember. That's what the ship always told Percy when there was a spooky place he had to go in, like a cave or a dark room where the treasure was. And the camera would push in on Laughingstock's face with each pause. YOU HAVE... TO GO... INSIDE. With his two eyes askew and that flopping foam jaw and the fishing line that opened and closed it. Ugh. It just looked so cheap and awful.
You guys remember the villain? He had a face that was just a handlebar mustache above really tall, narrow teeth.
kevin_hart
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
i honestly, honestly thought the villain was pirate percy- i was about 5 when this show was on. nightmare fuel.
Jaren_2005
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
That wasn't the villain, the puppet with the mustache. That was the villain's sidekick, Horace Horrible. He had a monocle too, but it was on top of the mustache. I used to think that meant he had only one eye. But yeah, the villain was another marionette. The Skin-Taker. I can't believe what they let us watch back then.
kevin_hart
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
jesus h. christ, the skin taker. what kind of a kids show were we watching? i seriously could not look at the screen when the skin taker showed up. he just descended out of nowhere on his strings, just a dirty skeleton wearing that brown top hat and cape. and his glass eyes that were too big for his skull. christ almighty.
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Wasn't his top hat and cloak all sewn up crazily? Was that supposed to be children's skin??
mike_painter65
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
yeah i think so. rememer his mouth didn't open and close, his jaw just slid back and foth. i remember the little girl said "why does your mouth move like that" and the skin-taker didn't look at the girl but at the camera and said "TO GRIND YOUR SKIN"
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
I'm so relieved that other people remember this terrible show! I used to have this awful memory, a bad dream I had where the opening jingle ended, the show faded in from black, and all the characters were there, but the camera was just cutting to each of their faces, and they were just screaming, and the puppets and marionettes were flailing spastically, and just all screaming, screaming- The girl was just moaning and crying like she had been through hours of this- I woke up many times from that nightmare- I used to wet the bed when I had
kevin_hart
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
i don't think that was a dream. i remember that. i remember that was an episode.
Skyshale033
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
No no no, not possible. There was no plot or anything, I mean literally just standing in place crying and screaming for the whole show.
kevin_hart
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
maybe i'm manufacturing the memory because you said that, but i swear to god i remember seeing what you described. they just screamed.
Jaren 2005
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
Oh God. Yes. The little girl, Janice, I remember seeing her shake. And the Skin-Taker screaming through his gnashing teeth, his jaw careening so wildly I thought it would come off its wire hinges. I turned it off and it was the last time I watched. I ran to tell my brother and we didn't have the courage to turn it back on.
mike_painter65
Subject: Re: Candle Cove local kid's show?
i visited my mom today at the nursing home. i asked her about when i was littel in the early 70s, when i was 8 or 9 and if she remebered a kid's show, candle cove. she said she was suprised i could remember that and i asked why, and she said "because i used to think it was so strange that you said 'i'm gona go watch candle cove now mom' and then you would tune the tv to static and juts watch dead air for 30 minutes. you had a big imagination with your little pirate show."
I've read that. Very cool. And clever to write a short story in forum format, with misspellings and all.
balmakboor
04-01-2010, 03:23 AM
You may remember my post about looting a local, going out of business video store last week. Two BRs and eight DVDs for $30.00.
Well I got around the watching The Curious Case of Benjamin Button BR this evening. And I must say I found it flat out great, if not quite perfect, this second go around. I'd written a rave review previously, but this time it seemed even more moving and beautiful and fascinating, maybe even profound.
Then a rather curious thought struck me. Probably my five favorite movies of the past ten years or so are all wildly different but equally thoughtful meditations on mortality. Could it be that I'm approaching 50 that makes them so meaningful? I also have deep feelings for 8 1/2, Ikiru, and Tokyo Story.
The five movies that strike me this evening as my recent favorites are:
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
The Fountain
Let the Right One In
Moon
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
I also looted Milk from the video store last week and found it greatly moving as well, especially when Harvey Milk realizes he's 40 and hasn't accomplished anything meaningful yet.
Pop Trash
04-01-2010, 03:26 AM
I also looted Milk from the video store last week and found it greatly moving as well, especially when Harvey Milk realizes he's 40 and hasn't accomplished anything meaningful yet.
You should see Greenberg ASAP. I think you would appreciate it. I'm going through a similar thing since I'm turning 30 this year and wondering where the last decade of my life went?
balmakboor
04-01-2010, 03:37 AM
You should see Greenberg ASAP. I think you would appreciate it. I'm going through a similar thing since I'm turning 30 this year and wondering where the last decade of my life went?
I definitely will. I thought the trailer looked great and The Squid and the Whale is amazing.
Dead & Messed Up
04-01-2010, 04:18 AM
Okay, Aguirre the Wrath of God was something else. Brilliant evocation of futility and madness, complete with an incredible score and some terrific performances. Loved the low-key morbid irony, especially when someone shouted, "The Emperor is dead!" and I was left to wonder how someone could muster shock about the end of his pitiful empire and ineffectual reign.
That scene in the eddy was key, wasn't it? People desperately trapped in a struggle, going in circles, making no progress, waiting to die. Micro and macro.
Compelling stuff here.
megladon8
04-01-2010, 05:55 AM
I couldn't be happier about you loving that one, DaMU!
I really want to explore more of Herzog's filmography. I'm particularly interested in The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser - a store I find quite fascinating.
balmakboor
04-01-2010, 09:06 PM
Holy crap this is great news! Fassbinder's sci-fi, 2-part TV flick World on a Wire is getting a U.S. release.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/movies/04wire.html
The DVD can't be far behind.
baby doll
04-01-2010, 09:18 PM
Weekend:
Chloe (Atom Egoyan)
Gainsbourg (vie héroïque) (Joann Sfar)
Green Zone (Paul Greengrass)
Greenberg (Noah Baumbach)
Hot Tub Time Machine (Steve Pink)
Last Train Home (Lixin Fan)
The Misfortunates (Felix Van Groeningen)
Paiyya (N. Linguswamy)
Ezee E
04-01-2010, 09:23 PM
Weekend:
Memories of Murder
Strange Days
Mad Men: Season 3
Chloe (?)
Green Zone (?)
Yxklyx
04-01-2010, 09:24 PM
Weekend:
The Box
The Killer
The Gospel According to St. Matthew
Spun Lepton
04-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Gonzo: The Life and Work of Hunter S. Thompson should be required viewing for fans of Thompson's. What I liked most about it was hearing some of Thompson's original recordings, including his "research" recordings from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The man was batshit brilliant.
Grouchy
04-01-2010, 10:03 PM
Gonzo: The Life and Work of Hunter S. Thompson should be required viewing for fans of Thompson's. What I liked most about it was hearing some of Thompson's original recordings, including his "research" recordings from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The man was batshit brilliant.
Yes, I love this documentary. They were showing it on cable yesterday.
Grouchy
04-01-2010, 10:04 PM
True, but I can tell you it is Red (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1245526/).
Standard fare I'm sure, but that's a pretty wicked cast.
Wow, Ernest Borgnine is still alive. That's really awesome of him.
Grouchy
04-01-2010, 10:07 PM
I mildly enjoyed this thriller with Lelee Sobieski called The Glass House, but I could tell it was in fact pretty bad. For one thing, the villains of the piece are almost always weakened and outwitted by the girl, so the final third of the movie is very un-thrilling. I also thought the score was pretty silly, making moments that didn't carry much weight seem really bombastic. But at the same time, the characterization and the acting in general were above what this type of movie calls for. And the premise is great. So it's more of a wasted opportunity than anything.
Derek
04-02-2010, 12:44 AM
Martha (Fassbinder, 1974)
In the Fassbinder canon of suffering women and martyrs of arcane social restrictions, it’s hard to imagine one topping Martha, a woman who is subsumed by those around her and ultimately engulfed by her sadistic husband’s tyrannical rain. Fassbinder has always been masterful at incorporating gaudy, even garish, set and costume designs into his melodramatic set-ups and here, perhaps more than any other of his films, the artifice is at its most damning and dehumanizing, undercutting, every step of the way, Martha’s attempts at genuine human connection, communication and compassion. It’s hard to imagine anyone other than Margit Carstensen playing the role of Martha here, her pale skin, skeletal frame and painfully naïve smile making her tenderness and fragility all the more all the more palpable. Lest this sound like a misery-fest, Fassbinder also demonstrates an acute and rather dark sense of humor - the scene where as Martha mourns her freshly murdered cat, she is pried from the floor by her husband who simply must possess her, mirroring a similar encounter that occurred after Martha’s mother’s failed suicide attempt, is as darkly comical as it is wrenchingly heartbreaking. Fassbinder deliberately walks the line between the authentic and absurd, never fearing to venture into hyperbolic territory be it through nearly every woman’s addiction to tranquilizers or his remarkably complex camera moves. He is clearly dealing with universal emotions and struggles, but opts for the broad, expressive palette of Greek drama as opposed to raw realism. The characters’ fears and desires play out vividly on the screen, leaving their imprint behind as Martha’s identity slowly disappears. And man, that smile, perhaps the only reminder of Martha’s simple yet unattainable dream of happiness, is eerily like that of the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes it really seems like the smile might stay and the rest of her will fade away into the background.
Qrazy
04-02-2010, 07:35 AM
Wow, Ernest Borgnine is still alive. That's really awesome of him.
Have you seen Marty? It's a quality film.
Grouchy
04-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Have you seen Marty? It's a quality film.
No. I'd like to see it.
Rowland
04-02-2010, 09:10 PM
It's all about The Devil's Rain.
Qrazy
04-02-2010, 09:14 PM
No. I'd like to see it.
I'm going to reiterate my rec of Harper (as well as it's sequel The Drowning Pool) also since I know you like both Paul Newman and private eye films... and a side rec of Hombre (Paul Newman and westerns).
D_Davis
04-02-2010, 09:14 PM
It's all about The Devil's Rain.
The one where everyone melts at the end?
Spun Lepton
04-02-2010, 09:33 PM
The one where everyone melts at the end?
That's the one.
Rowland
04-02-2010, 10:05 PM
The one where everyone melts at the end?The one, the only. Classic.
D_Davis
04-02-2010, 10:32 PM
That's the one.
The one, the only. Classic.
I've seen it one time, when I was a wee lad, at my grandma's house. I've never forgotten it.
Is it worth checking out now? I think it's on Netflix streaming.
Spun Lepton
04-02-2010, 10:44 PM
Is it worth checking out now? I think it's on Netflix streaming.
No, it's pretty bad.
Rowland
04-02-2010, 10:57 PM
I've seen it one time, when I was a wee lad, at my grandma's house. I've never forgotten it.
Is it worth checking out now? I think it's on Netflix streaming.
It isn't available through Netflix streaming unfortunately, though I would recommend checking it out. Its lousy reputation be damned, I think it's a pretty neat horror movie.
D_Davis
04-02-2010, 10:58 PM
It isn't available through Netflix streaming unfortunately, though I would recommend checking it out. Its lousy reputation be damned, I think it's a pretty neat horror movie.
OK.
It must've been on On Demand recently, because I know I saw the title somewhere on my television recently.
I've kind of been wanting to check it out.
Derek
04-02-2010, 11:30 PM
Trees Lounge creates a fairly authentic lower/middle-class suburban milieu, but its tendency to veer away from its troubled protagonist (Buscemi playing a more alcoholic version of what you might consider the prototypical Buscemi character) to briefly follow various bar patrons and acquaintances only serves to disrupt the flow. When centered around Buscemi's stagnant life, it occasionally reaches moments of tender poignancy, yet overall, the film never comes alive, especially as its only real insight into its protagonists struggles comes through a clunky flashback device via his ex watching an old home movie. Fans of Buscemi might find it worth a look, but otherwise, it's probably not worth your time.
BuffaloWilder
04-03-2010, 02:59 AM
I just got invited to cover the Dallas International Film Festival for EInsiders (http://www.einsiders.com), with all the press commendations.
scoooooooore
Grouchy
04-03-2010, 05:20 AM
I'm going to reiterate my rec of Harper (as well as it's sequel The Drowning Pool) also since I know you like both Paul Newman and private eye films... and a side rec of Hombre (Paul Newman and westerns).
Thanks man! I'm searching for them as we speak.
Grouchy
04-03-2010, 05:26 AM
I've seen Mamet's State and Main. It's a harmless but consistently charming comedy that's elevated to great entertainment by the ensemble. The best part is clearly William H. Macy, but everyone has his moment to shine. And the final line is perfect -
"Beats working".
trotchky
04-03-2010, 05:52 AM
Dead Ringers felt pretty fantastic but, like every other Cronenberg movie I've seen, I'm not sure I got it.
trotchky
04-03-2010, 05:53 AM
It made me think of contemporary Asian horror movies, for some reason.
Grouchy
04-03-2010, 05:56 AM
Dead Ringers felt pretty fantastic but, like every other Cronenberg movie I've seen, I'm not sure I got it.
This comment might be interesting because Cronenberg is such a straight-forward director. I mean, why do you think you didn't get it?
trotchky
04-03-2010, 06:04 AM
This comment might be interesting because Cronenberg is such a straight-forward director. I mean, why do you think you didn't get it?It seemed to be doing things with a plethora of motifs--twins, guts, addictions, obsessions--none of which resolved themselves in any cathartic or illuminating ways for me. I mean, these things are clearly at work, but I felt like I was observing them from below, on a level I couldn't access them from.
Grouchy
04-03-2010, 06:25 AM
It seemed to be doing things with a plethora of motifs--twins, guts, addictions, obsessions--none of which resolved themselves in any cathartic or illuminating ways for me. I mean, these things are clearly at work, but I felt like I was observing them from below, on a level I couldn't access them from.
Yeah, it's not the type of movie where you identify with the characters in any way.
I thought it followed on Cronenberg's exploration of body horror and detachment from one's own biology. Also, the two brothers could be easily interpreted as the dueling halves of any human's personality.
chrisnu
04-03-2010, 06:32 AM
It seemed to be doing things with a plethora of motifs--twins, guts, addictions, obsessions--none of which resolved themselves in any cathartic or illuminating ways for me. I mean, these things are clearly at work, but I felt like I was observing them from below, on a level I couldn't access them from.
I felt the same way. It's why I refrained from giving it a rating after I watched it, but haven't had an urgent desire to watch it again.
Boner M
04-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Weekend:
The Little Gangster (Doillon)
Nuts in May (Leigh)
The Aviator's Wife (Rohmer)
Sound of the Mountain (Naruse)
Paisan (Rossellini)
balmakboor
04-03-2010, 01:22 PM
I just got invited to cover the Dallas International Film Festival for EInsiders (http://www.einsiders.com), with all the press commendations.
scoooooooore
Nice. I wish I lived near a decent sized festival. I do, though, invite myself to cover the Cinema 100 Film Society series twice a year.
www.cinema100.com
score
Bosco B Thug
04-03-2010, 04:22 PM
Wow, has there ever been so unsuccessful a film as Modesty Blaise? It just keeps on failing and shooting itself in the foot. I think I'm a big Losey fan by this point - he's an artsy, pretentious guy with too many ideas in his head. In this film, though, it's like, ease the hell up with the cinematic pontification - this type of material needs some sense of commercial narrativity to work and indulging in incessant musical juxtoposition is not going to engage the viewer! And I can appreciate his playing Continental iconoclasm with another culture, but those were some of the worst Arabs ever put to film.
Blind Date was a textured, thinking-human's crime-mystery film, Losey's class-oriented concerns and stormy visual intensity figuring heavily into the subtext, but if it didn't have one of the most ludicrous premises ever. Losey's on his A-game, but again, the film shows his way of occasionally veering into very overripe melodrama.
Spinal
04-03-2010, 07:17 PM
Wow, has there ever been so unsuccessful a film as Modesty Blaise?
Very few. I consider it one of the worst films ever made because it's actually something that had promise and should have worked. It is somehow deathly dull.
megladon8
04-03-2010, 09:09 PM
HA!
Have blockbusters become too intellectual?? (http://www.slate.com/id/2248669/)
Glass Co.
04-03-2010, 09:27 PM
HA!
Have blockbusters become too intellectual?? (http://www.slate.com/id/2248669/)
What a poorly thought out article. Avatar and The Hurt Locker weren't going for our hearts and minds?
megladon8
04-03-2010, 09:29 PM
What a poorly thought out article. Avatar and The Hurt Locker weren't going for our hearts and minds?
I think saying it's poorly thought out goes without saying, considering the title.
Glass Co.
04-03-2010, 09:31 PM
I think saying it's poorly thought out goes without saying, considering the title.
Perhaps, but I could at least accept the basics of wanting of more emotional pull in movies (even if I disagree) if it were more accurate and took a second of consideration.
Trees Lounge
Hey, I also recently watched mid-90s indie offbeat Buscemi, although I was lucky enough to pick Living in Oblivion. It's got Catherine Keener armpit hair and Peter Dinklage acting a fool and layers upon layers of whacked-out dreaming and, really, if you just stuff a 90 minute movie with enough of that brand of awesome sauce, it's gonna be pretty watchable no matter what else
Bosco B Thug
04-03-2010, 10:43 PM
Very few. I consider it one of the worst films ever made because it's actually something that had promise and should have worked. It is somehow deathly dull. It is, unforgivably taking up a full 2 hours. I considered walking out a number of times, and the generous .5 in my score is there for whatever the hell it was that kept me from doing that.
I suppose one can't say it's a mechanical picture - Losey's definitely the one behind the camera, albeit ****ing it up royally without a clue how to make this a functional movie.
megladon8
04-03-2010, 11:32 PM
Perhaps, but I could at least accept the basics of wanting of more emotional pull in movies (even if I disagree) if it were more accurate and took a second of consideration.
More emotional pull does not equal dumbing down the intellectual aspects of a film.
Even predictable, simplistic romance can be intellectually stimulating.
Winston*
04-04-2010, 02:18 AM
With IMDB these days is there a way to get a decent list of films released in a given year with 500 votes or more? I used to be able to do it with the power search but the way they've got it now I can only get 20 results per page.
MadMan
04-04-2010, 07:35 AM
Weekend:
*The Girl Who Knew Too Much
*Mulholland Drive
I highly doubt I'll get to either one, really. Very little time for movies recently.
Derek
04-04-2010, 08:30 AM
Weekend:
*The Girl Who Knew Too Much
*Mulholland Drive
I highly doubt I'll get to either one, really.
This, coupled with posting it more than halfway through the weekend, has earned you rep, good sir!
soitgoes...
04-04-2010, 09:10 AM
With IMDB these days is there a way to get a decent list of films released in a given year with 500 votes or more? I used to be able to do it with the power search but the way they've got it now I can only get 20 results per page.
I think you can still do it from here (http://www.imdb.com/search/title). I know they are redoing their whole search function, but I think this will still be of help.
MadMan
04-04-2010, 09:22 AM
This, coupled with posting it more than halfway through the weekend, has earned you rep, good sir!Why thanks. And I'll try to watch both, probably on Sunday night if anything else. This week has been eventful somewhat to say the least.
Oh and at the moment I'm forgoing sleep and watching A Scanner Darkly for um, I think, the 5th time maybe. Great movie-highly underrated when it comes to the last decade.
Winston*
04-04-2010, 09:41 AM
I think you can still do it from here (http://www.imdb.com/search/title). I know they are redoing their whole search function, but I think this will still be of help.
Yeah, I found that. You can search the stuff but the way their results are set out now makes it really annoying to skim. The old way was better.
D_Davis
04-04-2010, 04:04 PM
Watched a bunch of movies yesterday:
Deadend of Besiegers
The Beheaded 1,000
A Hero Never Dies
Black Dynamite
Ninja Assassin
This first three were, of course, awesome, and the last were kind of lame.
The best thing I can say about Black Dynamite is that it made a great trailer.
And I watched Peking Opera Blues, which was incredible, and Swamp Water, the Renoir film, which was pretty good.
Stay Puft
04-04-2010, 06:03 PM
And I watched Peking Opera Blues, which was incredible
Indeed.
Have Davis give you a copy of Shanghai Blues, if you haven't seen it. The two films compliment each other, would make for a good double feature.
Raiders
04-04-2010, 07:04 PM
Only Angels Have Wings (Hawks 39) ***
:: waves hand dismissively ::
D_Davis
04-04-2010, 07:24 PM
And I watched Peking Opera Blues, which was incredible.
Sweet - glad you liked it.
How do you stack it up with Don't Play With Fire? Tonally, the films couldn't be any more different, and yet each has that distinct Tsui feel, mainly that energy and excitement.
I love all the Tsui-talk happening around here lately.
balmakboor
04-04-2010, 07:48 PM
Sweet - glad you liked it.
How do you stack it up with Don't Play With Fire? Tonally, the films couldn't be any more different, and yet each has that distinct Tsui feel, mainly that energy and excitement.
I love all the Tsui-talk happening around here lately.
I find myself returning to Don't Play With Fire the most of the Tsui's I've seen. It has so much energy and a sense of something made quickly and that whatever worked at the moment to solve a problem at hand was what Tsui and company went with.
D_Davis
04-04-2010, 08:23 PM
I find myself returning to Don't Play With Fire the most of the Tsui's I've seen. It has so much energy and a sense of something made quickly and that whatever worked at the moment to solve a problem at hand was what Tsui and company went with.
That's probably more true than you may know. Tsui is known for changing things as he goes. The term "lip raping" was coined for his tendencies to completely alter a script after a film has been completed. He's changed the story of some films the night before they premier.
This is one of the main reasons why he couldn't hang with the Hollywood system - it is far to rigid and structured. He likes to play it fast, cheap, and totally out of control. Probably also a reason why his work post-Time and Tide has been so lackluster; I don't think he trusts his old work ethic anymore.
angrycinephile
04-04-2010, 09:45 PM
The guy who did the famous 70-minute Youtube review of The Phantom Menace is at it again.
His 90-minute long review of Attack of the Clones
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA)
He has finally convinced me it's even worse than TPM.
D_Davis
04-04-2010, 11:14 PM
The sequence when Van Damme escapes from the colony in Double Team is awesome, and totally ridiculous. It's awesome because of how ridiculous it is. It's a really slick looking movie, too.
soitgoes...
04-04-2010, 11:31 PM
Yeah, I found that. You can search the stuff but the way their results are set out now makes it really annoying to skim. The old way was better.
I gotcha. Yeah most everyone on their boards are upset about the changes. They (IMDb) say it makes for a better more user friendly site, but I don't know how this is possible when the users don't find it user friendly. Maybe it is a step in the process of revamping the site, and eventually all will be grand again.
D_Davis
04-04-2010, 11:33 PM
Even though I like the techniques when it's properl, and sparingly used, action cinema was far more exciting before bullet time and that super slo-mo into speed-up stuff.
soitgoes...
04-04-2010, 11:44 PM
:: waves hand dismissively ::
Sorry, it isn't good enough to warrant another star. I still like it quite a bit. It's refreshing to see Cary Grant play a role that isn't a Cray Grant role. Barthelmess stole the film. Considering his career was pretty much over when the film was made, and who three of his co-stars are, that's a pretty big accomplishment.
Ezee E
04-04-2010, 11:49 PM
Rewatched Brick. It's a movie that I respect a lot, but get bored each time I watch it.
Boner M
04-05-2010, 01:22 AM
Rewatched Brick. It's a movie that I respect a lot, but get bored each time I watch it.
:|
balmakboor
04-05-2010, 01:57 AM
The sequence when Van Damme escapes from the colony in Double Team is awesome, and totally ridiculous. It's awesome because of how ridiculous it is. It's a really slick looking movie, too.
I was actually pondering renting that yesterday. I know it's not high priority Tsui, but Mickey Rourke and a lot of cartoony-vivid colors have pretty much sold me on a watch.
hey it's ethan
04-05-2010, 04:12 AM
So I rewatched Lost Highway last night and noticed one key thing; holy shit does David Lynch know how to make playing the saxophone look cool.
Milky Joe
04-05-2010, 04:52 AM
He also knows how to make having sex with Patricia Arquette look really, really not cool. Genius.
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 05:06 AM
I was actually pondering renting that yesterday. I know it's not high priority Tsui, but Mickey Rourke and a lot of cartoony-vivid colors have pretty much sold me on a watch.
It's a lot of fun. Way more exciting, energetic, and wild than most Western action movies. While not a "good" movie, I expect you'll at least have fun while watching it.
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 05:28 AM
I think Sven appreciates Double Team on a certain level as well. I watched it again this afternoon, and I had forgotten just how colorful and vibrant the film is. I had also forgotten about just how totally incomprehensible the plot is.
It's interesting that he moved back to Hong Kong after making this and Knock Off, and then made Time and Tide - one of his most interesting and fast paced films, perhaps his last film of any real note. Like his two Hollywood pictures, it is totally flawed, and yet it still possesses such a love for the camera and for movement, and for conveying the kinetic qualities of action.
Dead & Messed Up
04-05-2010, 05:30 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/deadandmessedup/a_bug_s_life_pixar__7_.jpg
I've officially seen every Pixar movie. A Bug's Life isn't the best I've seen of their stuff, but it's charming, colorful, exciting fun. While the opening sequences depend too heavily on punny dialogue ("Bloody Mary! O-positive" shouts a mosquito), the film eventually hits its groove, finding humor in the characterizations, and, like Antz, creating a huge world out of what is really a small space. I'm especially grateful to whoever decided Heimlich should have an unlikely German accent. His high-pitched "I'm shtuck!" will be ringing in my ears for days.
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I think Sven appreciates Double Team on a certain level as well.
I do. And the level I appreciate it on is not ironic at all. Well... Rodman is a terrible actor, but aside from that, I like the movie for what it does well, which puts the focus largely on the film's technical elements, which are very impressive.
Rowland
04-05-2010, 09:02 AM
I like Double Team and Knock Off as well, as does Stay Puft I believe. In fact, I probably like those movies more than Time and Tide.
EyesWideOpen
04-05-2010, 12:31 PM
I like Double Team and Knock Off as well, as does Stay Puft I believe. In fact, I probably like those movies more than Time and Tide.
When I used to work at Blockbuster, Time and Tide was the one movie I picked up more then any other that I would mean to rent and never did. Looks like I did myself a favor.
Skitch
04-05-2010, 03:38 PM
So I rewatched Lost Highway last night and noticed one key thing; holy shit does David Lynch know how to make playing the saxophone look cool.
Yes, yes...much better than Joel Shumacher.
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 03:40 PM
I like Double Team and Knock Off as well, as does Stay Puft I believe. In fact, I probably like those movies more than Time and Tide.
Nice.
Although I like Time and Tide a great deal more.
So is liking Double Team and Knock Off one of those weird Match-Cut quirks?
:)
Skitch
04-05-2010, 03:40 PM
He also knows how to make having sex with Patricia Arquette look really, really not cool. Genius.
I may disagree with this post more than I've ever disagreed with anything.
:pritch:
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 03:42 PM
So I rewatched Lost Highway last night and noticed one key thing; holy shit does David Lynch know how to make playing the saxophone look cool.
Playing the saxophone never looks cool, unless you're Maceo Parker.
Grouchy
04-05-2010, 05:06 PM
The People vs. Larry Flynt is a pretty good movie, but with that source material, it's hard to imagine it being any less than entertaining. However, I can't endorse it 100%. There were times when I felt Milos Forman was stuck in a limbo between many movies he could have made - a provocative account of a case fundamental to the history of censorship, a standard Hollywood biopic, an over-the-top film with a crazed Woody Harrelson, etc. Harrelson and Courtney Love are excellent, and the empathy Forman feels for outsiders fighting the system is commendable.
Reading the real story of Flynt's life in Wikipedia shows that the movie departs from reality in many ways to make its points, and that life is always a little weirder than fiction.
Milky Joe
04-05-2010, 07:04 PM
I may disagree with this post more than I've ever disagreed with anything.
:pritch:
Which part?
Skitch
04-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Which part?
The 'making sex with Patricia Arquette look not cool' part.
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 07:29 PM
The 'making sex with Patricia Arquette look not cool' part.
Yeah. I thought the sex with Patricia Arquette looked really cool and awesome.
Derek
04-05-2010, 08:05 PM
So is liking Double Team and Knock Off one of those weird Match-Cut quirks?
:)
I'm guessing it's more of a Sven/Rowland quirk than anything else.
Sycophant
04-05-2010, 08:43 PM
Nobuhiro Obayashi's 1977 comedy-horror visual-audio feast House (Hausu) is a joy to watch. I can't believe I was fortunate enough to see a film print in a theater in Utah in 2010.
megladon8
04-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Anyone have thoughts on the '75 Gene Hackman film Night Moves?
Anyone have thoughts on the '75 Gene Hackman film Night Moves?
Incredible. One of the best of its kind. Once wrote lyrics about it. They weren't very good, but the movie is.
megladon8
04-05-2010, 09:09 PM
Incredible. One of the best of its kind. Once wrote lyrics about it. They weren't very good, but the movie is.
Awesome!
Just wondering because a site I frequently buy DVDs from has it for like $9. Maybe I'll get a copy.
Stay Puft
04-05-2010, 09:09 PM
I like Double Team and Knock Off as well, as does Stay Puft I believe. In fact, I probably like those movies more than Time and Tide.
Yeah, I've professed my admiration for Knock Off a few times, even had a Knock Off avatar for a while. Unfortunately, I haven't seen Double Team.
Time and Tide is awesome, too. I rented it and watched it three times in one weekend. It gets a little (by which I mean a lot) sappy towards the end, but there's lots of great action and stylish momentum throughout.
soitgoes...
04-05-2010, 10:14 PM
Nobuhiro Obayashi's 1977 comedy-horror visual-audio feast House (Hausu) is a joy to watch. I can't believe I was fortunate enough to see a film print in a theater in Utah in 2010.It really is. I can't believe how all over the place the film is, yet it still works brilliantly.
Spinal
04-05-2010, 10:36 PM
I've seen only one film in the last two weeks and that was The Room. So sad.
Sycophant
04-05-2010, 10:38 PM
I watched The Royal Tenenbaums for the first time in, god, years last night. It's still my favorite movie.
Stay Puft
04-05-2010, 11:11 PM
I've seen only one film in the last two weeks and that was The Room. So sad.
I haven't watched anything in over a month beyond a couple DTV Marvel/DC animated movies. I might go see Alice in Wonderland tonight, despite having no desire to see it, simply because it's free. It's just something to do, I guess.
I don't know what's wrong. I haven't been able to work up any interest in watching movies lately. I'm still collecting them like a fiend, though, for some reason. I've recorded over 30 movies on my satellite PVR so far this year, including most of the Kurosawa stuff on TCM that I hadn't seen before. I just don't plan on watching any of them, apparently.
D_Davis
04-05-2010, 11:25 PM
I don't know what's wrong. I haven't been able to work up any interest in watching movies lately.
I was like this for the past year and a half. Only recently have I gotten back into watching movies.
megladon8
04-05-2010, 11:28 PM
Watching movies seems to be the only thing I don't phase in and out of.
Milky Joe
04-05-2010, 11:30 PM
The 'making sex with Patricia Arquette look not cool' part.
Yeah. I thought the sex with Patricia Arquette looked really cool and awesome.
Seriously? That's gotta be one of the most awkward, disturbing sex scenes in film history. You think Pullman's wheezing impotence is "really cool and awesome?" Or are we just talking about aesthetics here. In that case I understand. I guess.
Though, contemporaneously, the sex scenes in Greenberg give it a run for its money.
Skitch
04-05-2010, 11:44 PM
Watching movies seems to be the only thing I don't phase in and out of.
Me either. My bloodflow. I kept track of how many I watched in 2007...over 900 in a year.
Melville
04-05-2010, 11:59 PM
Seriously? That's gotta be one of the most awkward, disturbing sex scenes in film history. You think Pullman's wheezing impotence is "really cool and awesome?"
Even if the bouncing breast overcomes the Pullman factor and makes the sex look appealing, that appeal fades immediately when Arquette pats Pullman on the back and says "It's OK." And that's followed by a close-up of the murderous, impotent rage in his eyes. Brilliant, brutal scene.
Watashi
04-06-2010, 12:02 AM
I've been rewatching a lot of movies lately, but with school and all, I rarely find time to sit down and watch something new.
Grouchy
04-06-2010, 12:12 AM
Watching movies seems to be the only thing I don't phase in and out of.
Me either.
900 in a year seems a bit like overkill, though... I mostly watch either one film or none a day. Sometimes two if it's Sunday and I have nothing to do. Plus X-Files episodes.
Sycophant
04-06-2010, 12:37 AM
Most I could ever possibly have done is 400 movies in a year. In the last 7 months, though, I've probably watched... 30 or 40, at most.
MadMan
04-06-2010, 12:38 AM
I haven't even cracked 30 movies for this year yet. Maybe I'm burnt out from all the movie watching I did the previously two years or something. I really don't know.
megladon8
04-06-2010, 01:16 AM
Me either. My bloodflow. I kept track of how many I watched in 2007...over 900 in a year.
How is that physically possible?
Spaceman Spiff
04-06-2010, 01:35 AM
I've seen only one film in the last two weeks and that was The Room. So sad.
Isn't this supposed to be really hilarious?
Spaceman Spiff
04-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Seriously? That's gotta be one of the most awkward, disturbing sex scenes in film history. You think Pullman's wheezing impotence is "really cool and awesome?"
I certainly did.
Some of you just don't understand what 'awesome' entails, I've gathered.
Derek
04-06-2010, 01:38 AM
How is that physically possible?
Convert the massive amount of hours the average person watches television and convert a majority of it to movie-watching time and it's not all that implausible.
Still, 900 is the most I've ever heard anyone watching in a year. Even in my heyday, I only topped 50 in a month a couple times and that was pushing it.
megladon8
04-06-2010, 01:41 AM
Convert the massive amount of hours the average person watches television and convert a majority of it to movie-watching time and it's not all that implausible.
Still, 900 is the most I've ever heard anyone watching in a year. Even in my heyday, I only topped 50 in a month a couple times and that was pushing it.
Yeah, even when I was a kid home from school and watching the most movies I ever watched in my life, I don't think I got much past 50 in a month.
900 movies in a year? Assuming Skitch was either employed or in school at the time...I just don't see how that's possible.
Derek
04-06-2010, 01:49 AM
Yeah, even when I was a kid home from school and watching the most movies I ever watched in my life, I don't think I got much past 50 in a month.
900 movies in a year? Assuming Skitch was either employed or in school at the time...I just don't see how that's possible.
Seriously? Think about how many hours some of your friends might play video games, watch tv or waste time on the internet? It's far more than the ~1,500 hours needed to watch that many movies in a year.
I'm not saying it'd be easy, just that it's not impossible if you plan your free time accordingly.
Skitch
04-06-2010, 02:07 AM
Meg, Derek is dead on. I disconnected the satellite/cable years ago. There are other factors. 'Over 900' includes a dvd disc of a tv show I would count as 1, same as a movie in the theater. Movies I watched more than once were counted also, it wasn't 900 unseen movies. Also, I'm a lifetime insomniac, usually only averaging 4 or 5 hours a night. I have a kickass job that allows me to make my own schedule, and, we shut down completely for two weeks in the winter. I too, thought it was rediculous when I saw the number.
I know it sounds stupid, but disconnecting the TV makes a HUGE difference. I can't tell you how many times I loan somebody (like my sister) a movie, only to find out a month later she hasn't watched it, claiming 'she hasn't had time', yet she has time for The Biggest Loser. Sigh.
Skitch
04-06-2010, 02:11 AM
I should double check my list though, maybe it was 700 some...I don't remember...I could be wrong. :)
megladon8
04-06-2010, 02:19 AM
Well, that's pretty amazing Skitch.
For a while (between about 2001 and 2005) I felt like I watched too many movies, and even then I doubt I broke 350 or 400 per year.
Skitch
04-06-2010, 02:32 AM
Trust me, I aint bragging about wasting that much time, and it was an unusual year. Housing was down, so work was slow. I had a roommate, so one of us would have a movie on while the other played video games. I'd watch a movie while working out or making dinner.
I doubt I'd crack half that this year.
Regular people always think I'm a freak when they see my (around 2000) movie collection. I say the same thing. Disconnect the cable and spend that much on movies at exchange stores. Its very easy to accumulate a ton of flicks when you only pay $2-$5 a piece. Lot of blind buy subpar films, but still a lot of gems, and some of those bad ones are still better than any hour you'd kill watching 40 minutes of Law & Order wrapped with 20 minutes of ads.
Milky Joe
04-06-2010, 03:07 AM
Even if the bouncing breast overcomes the Pullman factor and makes the sex look appealing, that appeal fades immediately when Arquette pats Pullman on the back and says "It's OK." And that's followed by a close-up of the murderous, impotent rage in his eyes. Brilliant, brutal scene.
See, Melville gets it. I wonder about these other guys' sex lives.
Ezee E
04-06-2010, 03:13 AM
Went to The Interruptus in Boulder today with Ebert, Herzog, and Bahrani discussing Aguirre, Wrath of God. In two hours, we only got through fifteen minutes of the movie.
A few fun things:
-Herzog doesn't have many nice things to say about Kinski. "A coward," "We cleaned up his wife's blood on the walls in his hotel room because he beat her every night," "the cast didn't like him too much, but didn't plan to kill him when I warned them they were working with an insane person."
-Most of the shots in the movie were just one-take, with little to no setup. Herzog would typically compose the shot on the spot. The first few shots in the movie he always had in mind though.
-Herzog grabbed a tree that had 300-400 fire ants above, all falling on him, and took him out for 3-4 days. "It was not a pleasant experience."
-Herzog admits that his approach to filmmaking is primitive, and denies any symbolic approach to the films. He invented names, diaries, and the sedan chair. He remained respectful to the crowd that asked lots of symbolic questions, but seemed annoyed.
-Script was written in 2 1/2 days.
Derek
04-06-2010, 03:19 AM
See, Melville gets it. I wonder about these other guys' sex lives.
The look on Bill Pullman's face has no effect on my desire to bang Patricia Arquette. I wasn't the one that murdered her.
Winston*
04-06-2010, 03:20 AM
David Foster Wallace on that scene
"a creepy sex scene in which Bill Pullman has frantic wheezing sex with a Patricia Arquette who just lies there inert and all but looking at her watch (A sex scene that is creepy partly because it's exactly what I imagine having sex with Patricia Arquette would be like)."
Derek
04-06-2010, 03:24 AM
David Foster Wallace on that scene
"a creepy sex scene in which Bill Pullman has frantic wheezing sex with a Patricia Arquette who just lies there inert and all but looking at her watch (A sex scene that is creepy partly because it's exactly what I imagine having sex with Patricia Arquette would be like)."
See, he gets it.
Milky Joe
04-06-2010, 03:41 AM
David Foster Wallace on that scene
"a creepy sex scene in which Bill Pullman has frantic wheezing sex with a Patricia Arquette who just lies there inert and all but looking at her watch (A sex scene that is creepy partly because it's exactly what I imagine having sex with Patricia Arquette would be like)."
Kudos. Love that bit (where I got the word wheezing from in fact).
Bosco B Thug
04-06-2010, 03:59 AM
Right now I'm kinda at a point where I think the only movies that exist are Joseph Losey films. Visiting the cinematheque is great and all, but my movie-watching groove is certainly all backed up currently.
Anyway, King & Country further cements Losey as the ultimate seeming film theoretician let loose on commercial filmmaking. His films are just so busy with cinematic gesturing. It's wonderful, but a bit overbearing, and, in its saturation, loses some "cool" points. And the material of King & Country - a very Paths of Glory anti-war film - isn't as bizarre and intriguingly opaque as his other films, so the film is more liable for the "heavy-handed" and "generic" label (the latter which it is not). Still, Losey's trademark perversity and understanding for eccentricity is there and the film is polished and consistently masterful, every composition and movement and cut infused with Losey-passion.
D_Davis
04-06-2010, 04:45 AM
To tell you the truth, I wasn't really watching Bill Pullman. Something about how hot Patricia Arquette looked naked totally distracted me.
B-side
04-06-2010, 06:35 AM
The Shape of Things. Holy shit, LaBute. I don't think I've ever been so impacted emotionally by a film. I felt like I was getting punched in the stomach repeatedly throughout that entire finale. That hit way too close to home.
MadMan
04-06-2010, 06:38 AM
Went to The Interruptus in Boulder today with Ebert, Herzog, and Bahrani discussing Aguirre, Wrath of God. In two hours, we only got through fifteen minutes of the movie.
A few fun things:
-Herzog doesn't have many nice things to say about Kinski. "A coward," "We cleaned up his wife's blood on the walls in his hotel room because he beat her every night," "the cast didn't like him too much, but didn't plan to kill him when I warned them they were working with an insane person."
-Most of the shots in the movie were just one-take, with little to no setup. Herzog would typically compose the shot on the spot. The first few shots in the movie he always had in mind though.
-Herzog grabbed a tree that had 300-400 fire ants above, all falling on him, and took him out for 3-4 days. "It was not a pleasant experience."
-Herzog admits that his approach to filmmaking is primitive, and denies any symbolic approach to the films. He invented names, diaries, and the sedan chair. He remained respectful to the crowd that asked lots of symbolic questions, but seemed annoyed.
-Script was written in 2 1/2 days.Having seen the movie, much of this doesn't surprise me. I like the story about Klanski and the fire ants, both of which sounded rather painful and annoying, heh. Sometimes I feel that people (myself included) look at films a bit too hard and see things that aren't really there. Symbolism can be a tad overrated, I suppose-but I dig it a lot when its properly used.
Rowland
04-06-2010, 07:48 AM
I'm guessing it's more of a Sven/Rowland quirk than anything else.I know Scott Tobias of the AV Club wrote favorably about the Van Damme movies in his negative Time and Tide review. But yeah, it's not the most common perception of those movies.
Skitch
04-06-2010, 11:01 AM
To tell you the truth, I wasn't really watching Bill Pullman. Something about how hot Patricia Arquette looked naked totally distracted me.
No kidding. They're watching Bill Pullman wheezing and they're concerned about our sex lives?
Yxklyx
04-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Me either.
900 in a year seems a bit like overkill, though... I mostly watch either one film or none a day. Sometimes two if it's Sunday and I have nothing to do. Plus X-Files episodes.
Do you watch any beyond season 6? I bought the first 6 seasons but can't get myself to go further than that. Season 6 and 7 is when I started tuning out of the show when it came out.
Grouchy
04-06-2010, 05:57 PM
-Herzog doesn't have many nice things to say about Kinski. "A coward," "We cleaned up his wife's blood on the walls in his hotel room because he beat her every night," "the cast didn't like him too much, but didn't plan to kill him when I warned them they were working with an insane person."
You guys really need to read Conquest of the Useless, Herzog's on-set Fitzcarraldo diaries. He mentions Kinski's long-suffering Vietnamese wife in those and cleaning the blood from the hotel's walls.
One part that I loved is that Kinski arrived in the jungle with an Yves Saint-Laurent "jungle suit" and started hugging and kissing the trees, stating how erotic he found it all. Jason Robards is also called a coward many times in the diaries.
Grouchy
04-06-2010, 05:58 PM
Do you watch any beyond season 6? I bought the first 6 seasons but can't get myself to go further than that. Season 6 and 7 is when I started tuning out of the show when it came out.
No, I'm in Season 2, episode 14 which was really awesome - the one with the satanic high school teachers.
I watched The X-Files faithfully up until that point also. After that, I only watched the finale and I remember finding it kind of confusing.
MadMan
04-06-2010, 06:05 PM
Aside from me continuing to refuse to acknowledge that the last two seasons of the X-Files even exist, the series finale wasn't good or bad. It was just one big mess, tangled up in trying to tie up some lose ends, leave things open for another movie, and also tackle the overlying conspiracy. Which at that point had gotten somewhat silly, not to mention a bit complex/stupid, if that makes any sense or is possible. Too bad, considering how great the rest of the show really is-I'm a huge fan.
Rowland
04-06-2010, 07:53 PM
Director Jeff Stilson and co-writer/star Chris Rock fashioned a documentary in the Moore/Spurlock mold with Good Hair that's much better than any of the latter's work and at least as good as Moore's best, and I probably wouldn't have bothered with it if my girlfriend hadn't suggested it on a whim. Check it out guys.
BuffaloWilder
04-06-2010, 08:17 PM
Alright, two things -
8, you've been to these kinds of things before. What's dress-etiquette? Casual, formal?
Wats, Pete Docter is there, and I believe he'll be available for interviews and whatnot - anything you'd like me to ask him, if I get the chance?
Dillard
04-06-2010, 08:23 PM
For anyone interested, Girish has a great discussion (http://www.girishshambu.com/blog/2010/04/small-striking-moments.html) going on over at his blog about small, striking film moments drawing on Barthes and Keathley (http://english.okstate.edu/worldpicture/WP_2/PDF%20Docs/Keathleypdf-1.pdf) and others. Adrian Martin plays the devil's advocate to the focus on moments.
Michael Guillén's comment speaks to me in particular:
These small, striking moments--these "wounds" if you will--have been much on my mind of late as well because, essentially, they are the ways (various) to emotionally access a film. In other words, as I have long suspected, wounds are doorways.
D_Davis
04-06-2010, 09:15 PM
Director Jeff Stilson and co-writer/star Chris Rock fashioned a documentary in the Moore/Spurlock mold with Good Hair that's much better than any of the latter's work and at least as good as Moore's best, and I probably wouldn't have bothered with it if my girlfriend hadn't suggested it on a whim. Check it out guys.
I've been wanting to check this out. Looks hilhairious.
chrisnu
04-06-2010, 10:12 PM
Do you watch any beyond season 6? I bought the first 6 seasons but can't get myself to go further than that. Season 6 and 7 is when I started tuning out of the show when it came out.
Season 7 is worth watching, if only for the Mulder/Scully dynamic. I know some purists think it gets too cute. I didn't...
The Shape of Things. Holy shit, LaBute. I don't think I've ever been so impacted emotionally by a film. I felt like I was getting punched in the stomach repeatedly throughout that entire finale. That hit way too close to home.
Yes. I think this movie's brilliant. Will Rachel Weisz top that performance?
Qrazy
04-06-2010, 10:37 PM
The Shape of Things. Holy shit, LaBute. I don't think I've ever been so impacted emotionally by a film. I felt like I was getting punched in the stomach repeatedly throughout that entire finale. That hit way too close to home.
You've been manipulated by a girl and had your heart broken for an art project in the past?
Winston*
04-06-2010, 10:48 PM
I wish I had not read that post before it was spoilered.
Qrazy
04-06-2010, 10:56 PM
I wish I had not read that post before it was spoilered.
Sorry dude. :(
Ezee E
04-06-2010, 11:13 PM
You guys really need to read Conquest of the Useless, Herzog's on-set Fitzcarraldo diaries. He mentions Kinski's long-suffering Vietnamese wife in those and cleaning the blood from the hotel's walls.
One part that I loved is that Kinski arrived in the jungle with an Yves Saint-Laurent "jungle suit" and started hugging and kissing the trees, stating how erotic he found it all. Jason Robards is also called a coward many times in the diaries.
He mentioned for Aguirre, that Kinski came on to set claiming he was a "natural man" but then threw a fit when rain got into his tent. So they built a vinyl roof for the tent. When water seeped through, he threw another fit, so they got him a motel further away. He bitched about the commute, and that's where he beat his wife.
Makes me wonder why Herzog worked with him so often.
Missed today's interruptus. :(
Rowland
04-06-2010, 11:26 PM
My 2009 top ten sure looks a helluva lot different now than it did when we posted our final lists for the MC Top 20. And I still have so many movies I mean to catch up with. Back to yesterday's talk about how often we watch movies, I personally feel annoyed with myself when I go more than a few days without at least one viewing, because man, there are few joys in this life more stimulating for myself than a really vibrant movie.
Sycophant
04-07-2010, 01:05 AM
I finally saw Slumdog Millionaire last night. Did not care for it.
Skitch
04-07-2010, 01:12 AM
I finally saw Slumdog Millionaire last night. Did not care for it.
Shocking.
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