28 Film Discussion Threads Later [Archive] - Page 96

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 12:38 AM

So you can afford an education that costs thousands upon thousands of dollars but you can't buck up for Pootie Tang? Besides, shouldn't you be studying?

Hey, what's with the accusatory pronouns? This is hypothetical. I'm trying to reason out what the different opinions are on this situation and where some might agree it is, at the very least, 'understandable'.

And, in regards to the studying thing, if you're a film studies student, I don't really see the pernicious factor involved in submersing yourself in the fruits of the medium that you are studying. Especially if you always marry that submersion with your academic pursuits.

I also figure, if you're paying that much for school, especially if you're taking out a loan and worrying about living expenses, you won't always have pocket change to inoculate yourself in as much film as you desire. And transferring schools because of a less-than-adequate film library may sound good on paper, but...

The Mike

01-27-2009, 12:43 AM

I buy everything. More from an addiction standpoint, but I also feel better doing it.

Theater....I try to sneak in if I can't get in free. Don't feel bad about it.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 12:49 AM

I buy everything. More from an addiction standpoint, but I also feel better doing it.

Agree.

Theater....I try to sneak in if I can't get in free. Don't feel bad about it.

Disagree.

The Mike

01-27-2009, 01:20 AM

Disagree.
I've worked for a theater chain for nearly seven years, so I know the evils involved. :twisted:

I feel better about paying for tickets when I have to (the majority of that goes to the studios) than paying for the concessions ever(majority to theaters), of course.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 01:27 AM

Speaking of which, doesn't the majority of profit from ticket-sales only start going to the theater after the film has been playing for a certain number of weeks? And during those initial weeks, the theater can only hope to make substantial profit from snacks and such. And that's why Titantic was so great for everybody, because the studio made a lot of money on it during whatever number of weeks it was entitled to the majority of the profit and then, since it had such a long run, the theater still enjoyed many weeks of that slice of their slice of the pie once their 'turn' came along?

Does anyone know if this is accurate?

Dukefrukem

01-27-2009, 01:33 AM

I blind buy everything I don't see in theaters and want to watch it. I hate renting. If a movie sucks so god damn much that I'll never watch it again, I sell it on ebay immediately. (example: the Happening). I own over 500 DVDs and Blu-rays. I've recently come back down to Earth due to the economy and haven't purchased a DVD in a long time. Luckily I have a stockpile of DVDs I haven't viewed yet.

Dukefrukem

01-27-2009, 01:34 AM

chrisnu

01-27-2009, 01:42 AM

If the only method of seeing a film is through a download, I don't object. However, if I can rent the movie, I will do so. I haven't run into the scenario where the only way to see a movie was to purchase it. I love renting; I almost never buy DVDs any more.

Barty should be able to comment on how much of a slice theaters get on ticket sales. This link (http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/10/economics-of-the-movie-theater-where-the-money-goes-and-why-it-costs-us-so-much) explains a little more. It appears that theaters get next to nothing (or actually nothing) on ticket sales during the first week of release, but their piece gets incrementally higher until they're getting a large majority of ticket sales revenue after the fourth week.

The Mike

01-27-2009, 01:46 AM

Generally 50-80% or more of ticket prices go back to the studio, depending on the movie. I think it changes by week possibly, especially for some bigger releases. I remember that the last Star Wars prequels, for example, were unavailable to us employees for free for a month plus (usually 2 weeks) because of how far Lucas had his hand up our skirts.

There's hot to be some kind of benefit to keeping a movie longer, because that's how our chain killed our "indie" theater - moving studio flicks over from the multiplex to keep them in town an extra week and please the studio, even if they weren't selling tickets at the little place. But I can't say for sure.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 01:47 AM

It appears that theaters get next to nothing (or actually nothing) on ticket sales during the first week of release, but their piece gets incrementally higher until they're getting a large majority of ticket sales revenue after the fourth week.

Yeah, this was my understanding. Hence, the Titantic example... which would have really been a great situation for both sides.

Dead & Messed Up

01-27-2009, 01:49 AM

Hey, what's with the accusatory pronouns? This is hypothetical. I'm trying to reason out what the different opinions are on this situation and where some might agree it is, at the very least, 'understandable'.

I've heard that reason so many times before that I immediately took it to refer specifically to you. My apologies.

And, in regards to the studying thing, if you're a film studies student, I don't really see the pernicious factor involved in submersing yourself in the fruits of the medium that you are studying. Especially if you always marry that submersion with your academic pursuits.

Fair enough. My opinion is that spending time illegally downloading movies (and watching them), as "fruitful" as they may be, is time better spent engaging in the rigors of the actual coursework demanded.

I also figure, if you're paying that much for school, especially if you're taking out a loan and worrying about living expenses, you won't always have pocket change to inoculate yourself in as much film as you desire.

Desire, not require.

I never said I don't understand. I understand completely, and I sympathize. But I do disagree.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 01:55 AM

Fair enough. My opinion is that spending time illegally downloading movies (and watching them), as "fruitful" as they may be, is time better spent engaging in the rigors of the actual coursework demanded.

I suppose so, but in the situation of a film studies student, I could see the former tending to buttress the latter. Being informed in your field never hurts. But, you'd have to balance it out, sure. But then again, stepping outside of the legality argument, we're basically talking about disciplining your leisurely activities (however, herein, it would be an activity that would serve a didactic purpose directly tied to your academic pursuit) so as to prioritize the specific demands/expectations of the degree you're pursuing. That would be a concern that would exist for a film studies student whether it was a question of legally or illegally acquiring films.

Anyways. I do get your point, and you take a respectable and logical stance. I'm also in agreement that downloading a movie that is, in some way, legally accessible elsewhere isn't something that should be encouraged.

This all came to mind because I've been noticing that a lot of people on message-boards (not this one - for the most part, anyway) have been pretty flippant and nonchalant about doing this sort of thing. They even go about unreservedly broadcasting (and encouraging) that kind of activity, which, to me, doesn't really seem like the smartest thing to do. So, I got a bit curious about what kind of justifications people were getting behind, especially those most passionate about film who thereby might understand how they would be hurting the industry but choose to do it anyway.

Watashi

01-27-2009, 03:50 AM

I forgot... what was the consensus on My Kid Could Paint That? I know there was a large discussion about the film, but I don't feel like digging through the FDT.

I think it's probably the best documentary I've seen. Keep in mind, that certain field is really thin to me so far, but this one impressed me the most. I find it interesting that people seem to be only labeling the film as an ambigious side-choosing controversy, but that's just one layer on top of several. Not only does the director put the parents on trial, but also himself and every other self-claimed artist in the world. It has this really skeptical perception on what we push out as "truth" and "art". The film is a philosopher's dream and nightmare and something that one really can't fully answer because it's simply a pattern of our human nature to question the essence of truth.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 04:12 AM

It's definitely an interesting film. I really liked it.

Ezee E

01-27-2009, 04:23 AM

Don't Come Knocking... Any good?

I've seen Paris, Texas, Wings of Desire, and An American Fiend from Wenders, and am curious where to go next with him. I'm thinking that and Room 666.

Derek

01-27-2009, 05:28 AM

Don't Come Knocking... Any good?

No. No, it's not.

As for downloading, I use Karagarga where the only way to see the film is to blind buy it on VHS or an other-region DVD. If it's playing in theaters or is available through Netflix, I will see it that way.

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 05:34 AM

Speaking of Netflix, does Canada have a decent substitute yet?

transmogrifier

01-27-2009, 05:44 AM

All the Real Girls (66)

Fantastic atmosphere ruined by a pretty dull central love story with a eye-rollingly cliched reveal at the centre that drives the film right down into trivial banalities, something it had done well to avoid up to then. I enjoyed the brief moments we dropped into the lives of the secondary characters much more.

Also, Zoey with long hair > Zoey with short hair (and I'm still not convinced she's much of an actress)

chrisnu

01-27-2009, 06:00 AM

Speaking of Netflix, does Canada have a decent substitute yet?
The only service I'm aware of is zip.ca. I'm not sure of their selection quality, but I know they're available in Canada.

number8

01-27-2009, 06:34 AM

There are so many ways to legally procure movies that I can't condone obtaining it illegally. If it's a rare movie not released on DVD, or it's a foreign film that you know won't be released here for another 2 years, then by all means. That's a case of perseverance. But downloading pirated movies or screeners when the legal copies are readily available is just pure greed. If you can't afford to go to the theater, wait for the DVD. If you can't afford to rent DVDs, borrow from a friend or the library. If you can't be bothered to do that, then go watch some goddamn sitcoms on TV and shut the fuck up.

"I'm poor" is never a good excuse to steal.

Duncan

01-27-2009, 12:27 PM

The only service I'm aware of is zip.ca. I'm not sure of their selection quality, but I know they're available in Canada.

My experience is that they have the selection, but might have very few copies of "rare" films. So if you're in Toronto and want to watch Svankmajer's Faust but the only copy they have is being watched by some guy in Vancouver, for example, you might get sent a bunch of movies from lower in your queue before that one is sent to you.

Ezee E

01-27-2009, 12:44 PM

With Netflix, the quick turnaround of theater-to-DVD, and just about everything hitting DVD, there's really no point in me having to download movies anymore.

TV shows were different, but now that most networks are putting them on their website, you don't even have to download those illegally anymore.

megladon8

01-27-2009, 02:00 PM

Speaking of Netflix, does Canada have a decent substitute yet?

There's one based here in Ottawa,...I'm trying to remember the name.

Oh! Zip.ca (http://www.zip.ca/)

Amnesiac

01-27-2009, 03:20 PM

The only service I'm aware of is zip.ca. I'm not sure of their selection quality, but I know they're available in Canada.

There's one based here in Ottawa,...I'm trying to remember the name.

Oh! Zip.ca (http://www.zip.ca/)

Ah, thanks. I'll look into it.

Also, I thought I would bring this to everyone's attention: don't order from CriterionDVD.com (www.CriterionDVD.com).

I have placed many orders with them, and the prices were always fair, with good customer service to boot. However, things have changed. I placed an order with them way back in October and still haven't received my DVDs. I've since sent 5 e-mails, and I have not received a single response.

I took to tracking down their parent company, Neat Commerce (http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Neat.Commerce.407-352-8915), only to find that they don't answer their phone and their voice mail is, conveniently enough, full.

Even worse, the comments on that linked page show me that I'm not the only customer who has been left in the dust.

Just a heads up for anyone who might order from that site or was thinking about it. I'm still trying to figure out what the best course of action would be.

MadMan

01-27-2009, 05:14 PM

The Howling (Joe Dante, 1981) / **:| Thoughts?

Criminal was a fairly solid film that, aside from John C. Reily's usually good performance and a great twist, strikes me as kind of forgetable. I actually think there was a great film in there somewhere, and this is one example of a film that left the audience wanting way too much (I believe it only ran 87 minutes long). The ending really closes the book on things, and it doesn't bring up any sort of moral implications. Sure Richard deserved what was coming to him, but the way it was done was in a rather illegal manner. Did the end really justify the means? That was left rather unanswered and unexplored.

At the same time, it was pretty technically profficient, and I was entertained, but I think I may lower my rating for it a bit.

PS: I'm also now wondering if there has ever been a film that explores what happens to people who get grifted. Their reactions, whether or not they try to seek out those responsible, etc.

Qrazy

01-27-2009, 06:02 PM

No. No, it's not.

As for downloading, I use Karagarga where the only way to see the film is to blind buy it on VHS or an other-region DVD. If it's playing in theaters or is available through Netflix, I will see it that way.

Same here... new films I usually see in theaters or on dvd... films where nearly everyone involved in the creation of the product has long since died I tend to download guilt free.

Wryan

01-27-2009, 06:11 PM

Same here... new films I usually see in theaters or on dvd... films where nearly everyone involved in the creation of the product has long since died I tend to download guilt free.

Don't think for a moment that Edison won't come back to life and skull-fuck you if he finds out that you're watching The Sneeze without his written consent and five shillings in payment. You don't wanna know what he did to the Lumiere brothers.

Rowland

01-27-2009, 07:43 PM

Mad Detective is pretty. That's about the best thing I can say about it. To and Wai seem much more interested in individual tricks and gimmicks than they are invested in the plot and characters in the film. Kind of played like a sloppy Running on Karma with more guns.Too bad. I found it exhilarating in its off-beat storytelling rhythms, audacious formal verve, and wicked sense of humor.

Qrazy

01-27-2009, 10:28 PM

Don't think for a moment that Edison won't come back to life and skull-fuck you if he finds out that you're watching The Sneeze without his written consent and five shillings in payment. You don't wanna know what he did to the Lumiere brothers.

I support this post.

megladon8

01-27-2009, 10:46 PM

I quite liked Rosemary's Baby, but I had some issues with the ending.

Given Polanski's great skill with material of a surreal and/or deceiving nature, I have to admit I was a little disappointed with how it all came together in the final few minutes.

Great performances, script, direction...honestly I probably would have given it a 9 or 9.5 if it hadn't been for that ending.

Dead & Messed Up

01-27-2009, 10:48 PM

megladon8

01-27-2009, 10:52 PM

What rubbed you wrong about the final few minutes?

I just felt that the whole film was building to something different. I was expecting some big reveal at the end that Rosemary really was a paranoid delusional, but then the ending came around I was just left thinking "oh...so it was all real...okay."

Like I said, given Polanski's great ability to work with surreal material, I was expecting something more interesting to come about.

Raiders

01-28-2009, 12:16 AM

I can't think of many things more terrifying than the ending to Rosemary's Baby.

Certainly not "oh, it's all in her head" which we have only seen about a gazillion times. Not to mention it seems more "surreal," to use your word, in the way it plays out deliriously real as opposed to some simple hallucination. Plus, Rosemary's ultimate decision, that is to nurture in spite of the baby's apocalyptic nature, is chilling but somehow natural and dare I say, understandable.

It's a perfect ending.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 12:19 AM

I didn't really find anything in Rosemary's Baby to be terrifying.

Qrazy

01-28-2009, 12:19 AM

I just felt that the whole film was building to something different. I was expecting some big reveal at the end that Rosemary really was a paranoid delusional, but then the ending came around I was just left thinking "oh...so it was all real...okay."

Like I said, given Polanski's great ability to work with surreal material, I was expecting something more interesting to come about.

Hrm, it may have potentially benefited from maintaining a certain negative capability right up through the end but the end as it stands is also powerful in a rather different way. The fact that Rosemary ultimately chooses to embrace her new situation makes a bold statement about the overwhelming power of motherhood, even in the face of moral corruption. If the film had remained ambiguous Polanski would not have been able to play out his role appraisals as forcefully.

Spinal

01-28-2009, 12:20 AM

Completely agree with meg on the ending to Rosemary's Baby. Totally anticlimactic.

Raiders

01-28-2009, 12:22 AM

I didn't really find anything in Rosemary's Baby to be terrifying.

Well, I suppose it's all subjective, but I'm talking less about the execution than the actual way it plays out.

Honestly, would a "it's all a dream" actually be scarier? I would say it would be much less, not to mention very tired and cliched. Besides, why does Polanski need to comfort the audience by giving them the relief that the Antichrist doesn't exist and that Rosemary is just delusional as opposed to the actual mother of Satan's baby?

Raiders

01-28-2009, 12:25 AM

Completely agree with meg on the ending to Rosemary's Baby. Totally anticlimactic.

Yet, anticlimactic /= bad.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 12:25 AM

Well, I suppose it's all subjective, but I'm talking less about the execution than the actual way it plays out.

Honestly, would a "it's all a dream" actually be scarier? I would say it would be much less, not to mention very tired and cliched. Besides, why does Polanski need to comfort the audience by giving them the relief that the Antichrist doesn't exist and that Rosemary is just delusional as opposed to the actual mother of Satan's baby?

Perhaps not an "it's a dream" scenario, but I just felt it was building to something...different. I'm not even sure, myself, what it was I was expecting/hoping for, but this ending just felt, as Spinal said, anticlimactic.

I do like the idea of her embracing her child in the end - and the image of her rocking the cradle used to signify this was great.

As I said, I honestly don't know what it was I expected. I'm going to think about it a little more and get back to you...

Spinal

01-28-2009, 12:32 AM

Yet, anticlimactic /= bad.

In this case, it is. I'm using the term 'anticlimactic' as a synonym for 'lame-o'.

Raiders

01-28-2009, 12:49 AM

In this case, it is. I'm using the term 'anticlimactic' as a synonym for 'lame-o'.

Then you shall be known as "El Wrongo."

MadMan

01-28-2009, 01:09 AM

I'm 100% with Raiders on the ending to Rosemary's Baby, only I found it very creepy, not scary. Which reminds me that I still need to finish my Top 20 Horror films and post it here. My thoughts on "Baby" are included, as the film is among the best the genre has to offer. The fact that she's willing to nuture, take care of, and love the Antichrist, really is chilling. Its also a way of Polanski signing to us how Rosemary went from fearing and being terrifed of childbirth to fully embracing motherhood. To me, the film is as much about learning to accept bringing someone into this world, the mother giving her body over for 9 months to some strange new being, as it is about some woman being the mother of the son of the Devil.

Hmm I also need to finally view The Exorcist, although I'm wary of accidently getting the version with additional footage released in 2001 (I think that was the year). If only to complete the so called "Satanic Trilogy," of which the also utterly awesome The Omen and Rosemary's Baby are a part of.

Spinal

01-28-2009, 01:12 AM

Then you shall be known as "El Wrongo."

I don't speak Spanish, so I will assume that this roughly translates to "The Awesome."

Kurosawa Fan

01-28-2009, 01:14 AM

I don't speak Spanish, so I will assume that this roughly translates to "The Awesome."

That... actually fits the nickname quite well.

Ezee E

01-28-2009, 01:14 AM

I'm on the "it's terrifying" side.

Heck, the shot of the neighbors walking behind Rosemary across the doorway is one of the creepier shots in general.

Spinal

01-28-2009, 01:22 AM

That... actually fits the nickname quite well.

:lol:

OK, we're even for the day.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 01:38 AM

I'm on the "it's terrifying" side.

Heck, the shot of the neighbors walking behind Rosemary across the doorway is one of the creepier shots in general.

Yeah, that definitely creeped me out.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 01:39 AM

Hmm I also need to finally view The Exorcist, although I'm wary of accidently getting the version with additional footage released in 2001 (I think that was the year). If only to complete the so called "Satanic Trilogy," of which the also utterly awesome The Omen and Rosemary's Baby are a part of.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the 2001 additions to The Exorcist.

And The Omen was a huge disappointment for me.

Yxklyx

01-28-2009, 01:42 AM

I'm on the "it's terrifying" side.

Heck, the shot of the neighbors walking behind Rosemary across the doorway is one of the creepier shots in general.

The ending is fine but it has a totally different tone than the rest of the movie - like it's from another film entirely, and you don't see that often.

The Mike

01-28-2009, 01:45 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with the 2001 additions to The Exorcist.

I don't know why, but I hate the changed ending with a passion that burns. Don't like the spider walk scene either.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 01:50 AM

I don't know why, but I hate the changed ending with a passion that burns. Don't like the spider walk scene either.

The ending was changed? I honestly didn't remember that. I just remembered the spider-walk and a few other little jump-scares that didn't really add or detract from the overall experience at all.

But yeah...if the ending's changed, then I recommend MadMan seek out the original version first.

Exorcist III is also fantastic as well. Like, really - it's better than any "Part III" has a right to be.

Kurosawa Fan

01-28-2009, 01:55 AM

I don't remember the ending being different either, but I haven't seen it since it was in the theater.

I actually really liked the spider walk. Creeped me the hell out.

The Mike

01-28-2009, 02:13 AM

The original ending of the film includes....

Father Dyer accepting Father Karras' medallion from Regan right after her moment of recognition; but the new version has him taking it, looking at it, and returning it to her saying "I think you better hold on to it".

The latter has always struck me as being against the theme that the film was going for, as I've always considered the film to be more about Father Karras' salvation than Regan's possession. I felt like the original reminds those that are following Karras of the burdens they must pay (although, I wouldn't put it as a Christ-like sacrifice as some would), and also reminds Father Dyer of how Karras, despite his attitudes expressed in the final months of his life, always kept his faith close to his heart.

Plus, Regan's recognition of the Father's collar already signifies her understanding the impact the church had on her predicament, and Dyer giving it back to her pushes everything the scene is going for to her side, save a brief moment of recognition on Dyer's face. If she already knew subconsciously that a priest had saved her from this repressed trauma, a medallion wouldn't really serve as much more of a reminder. It could also be seen as something left with her for protection, but I don't like that idea either. The girl's been through enough already, too much implication of future troubles takes the hope away from the ending.

It's not a gigantic change, but I felt like the film would end better focusing on the battle Dyer has going forward, since the demon was clearly against christianity more than the girl it used as a conduit, at least in my eyes.

Raiders

01-28-2009, 02:46 AM

There's also the addition of:

Kinderman and Dyer talking and walking off together. It's a less dreary ending, though I don't think it really adds much except to display a brief moment of hope and normalcy after the events that happened.

The Mike

01-28-2009, 03:01 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot that part. I've seen both versions too many times, I always get them mixed up. :frustrated:

Dead & Messed Up

01-28-2009, 03:10 AM

I didn't really find anything in Rosemary's Baby to be terrifying.

Satan is Satan - I don't blame him for the shit he does. But the idea that all those old bastards would elect to do this is as terrifying as anything in horror cinema.

megladon8

01-28-2009, 03:47 AM

Satan is Satan - I don't blame him for the shit he does. But the idea that all those old bastards would elect to do this is as terrifying as anything in horror cinema.

Indeed it's a terrifying idea, but I didn't feel it was presented in a very terrifying way.

John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness evoked more terror from the idea that is Satan on earth. The old peoples' "nosiness" as Rosemary calls it really just felt like that, until the final few minutes when suddenly, boom "We really are Satan worshippers! Muahahahaha!"

I feel the film was a very effective drama. Similar to Polanski's Repulsion, it's billed as a horror film and even known as such, but I feel it's an interesting character study involving surreal elements to better express its themes.

I guess in this way I'd say Polanski's filmmaking is similar to David Lynch (though I know the "___________ is like David Lynch" description is thrown around a lot). They both make films that have unnerving, occasionally frightening elements or ideas, but they're not all-and-out horror films.

Dead & Messed Up

01-28-2009, 04:00 AM

Indeed it's a terrifying idea, but I didn't feel it was presented in a very terrifying way.

John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness evoked more terror from the idea that is Satan on earth. The old peoples' "nosiness" as Rosemary calls it really just felt like that, until the final few minutes when suddenly, boom "We really are Satan worshippers! Muahahahaha!"

Maybe that's a testament to how subtly Sidney Blackmer and Ruth Gordon ingratiate themselves into her life. I especially love how calm and collected Blackmer is the whole time. What an awful misuse of paternal charm.

But you're right - it's much too subtle to be considered a strict horror movie. I think of it as a supernatural tragedy / black comedy, but there's no section like that in Blockbuster.

Ezee E

01-28-2009, 05:09 AM

This Year's Oscar Roundtable Discussions (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3852DF4E15940 D5E)

Always good to watch.

Spinal

01-28-2009, 07:16 AM

Glen and Marketa have broken up. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/27/once-couple-splits-in-rea_n_161152.html) :sad:

Spinal

01-28-2009, 07:25 AM

What the hell? (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Ten_Commandments_The_Music al/70057918?trkid=189534) :confused:

Boner M

01-28-2009, 11:19 AM

Safety Last! - Highly enjoyable collection of stunts, just as enjoyable as any Keaton on a set-piece-by-set-piece level, but Lloyd's screen presence isn't as memorable or complex, and the climax probably would've been more exciting had he been less of a daredevil throughout the rest of the film. Opening shot is pretty brilliant.

Role Models - Funny for the most part, except for when it assumes that medieval role play games = instant comedy, and even less so when it assumes that the homosexual overtones of medieval role play games = instant comedy. Jane Lynch is hysterical and was completely robbed of an Oscar nomination.

Ms. 45 - Now this is the masterpiece I knew Ferrara had in his filmography, or at least as close to being it as I can imagine. Full of gonzo streetpunk artistry from beginning to end; the opening scene manages to lure you into the mindset of the outcast heroine in a way that I might have seen before but not quite in the way that Ferrara does it - he simply follows the activities of Thana's co-workers using eerily emphatic framing with her offscreen for the entire long scene, before offhandedly introducing her for a brief moment at the very end. From then on it's as uncanny a depiction of a state of mania as Polanski's Repulsion, and any possible charges of misandry are negated by the fact that Ferrara crafts the film so that any sentient person could feel uneasy watching it - Thana's vendetta is too desperate and feral for it to register as righteous. Lund is exceptional in her mute role, perfectly attuned to the hyper-expressiveness of Ferrara's style. Exploitation cinema at it's most artful; need to get on Driller Killer now.

chrisnu

01-28-2009, 01:55 PM

This Year's Oscar Roundtable Discussions (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3852DF4E15940 D5E)

Always good to watch.
These were great, but Anne Hathaway needs to stop. talking. :frustrated:

Duncan

01-28-2009, 02:07 PM

Topsy-Turvy - What I like most about this film is that it never completely adopts an irreverent tone. There are humourous scenes with the actors backstage and burlesque jokes, but they're always tempered by scenes like the one with Gilbert's father or with suggestions of past abortions. It's lively and quick-witted, but ramshackle and without an act structure. You can tell they probably had to leave a bunch of scenes on the cutting room floor. I wish the camera work wasn't quite so static. Not the singularly terminal film that Naked is, but I'd put it after that one in Leigh's filmmography (having seen only four).

Innocents With Dirty Hands - Second Chabrol film, don't really plan on going out of my way to see any more. This one had a few ridiculous plot twists. People making crazy leaps in logic. It's one of those critical examinations of the bourgeoisie that feels leadenly bourgeois. At least The Unfaithful Wife had some interesting long lens work. This had nothing.

Ezee E

01-28-2009, 03:52 PM

Wryan

01-28-2009, 03:57 PM

Google let me know that it was Jackson Pollock's birthday today.

With that, what are the best movies about a painter?

I'm going to do a rewatch of Scorsese's portion of New York Stories which may be his most energetic piece of work.

Other then that, there aren't any that really come to mind as great movies. I have not seen Pollock.

My Left Foot is supposed to be great. Haven't seen it yet.

On that note, there seem to be a lot of painters-with-problems movies. Is that just part of the whole "suffer for your art" stuff or what? Lust for Life is another.

The Agony and the Ecstasy? Anyone seen? I haven't.

Duncan

01-28-2009, 04:01 PM

F for Fake.

Ones I would like to see:
Watkins' Edvard Munch
Pialat's Van Gogh

Qrazy

01-28-2009, 04:03 PM

Google let me know that it was Jackson Pollock's birthday today.

With that, what are the best movies about a painter?

I'm going to do a rewatch of Scorsese's portion of New York Stories which may be his most energetic piece of work.

Other then that, there aren't any that really come to mind as great movies. I have not seen Pollock.

ANDREI RUBLEV

F for Fake (film essay)
The Mystery of Picasso (film essay)
Edvard Munch

And I guess...

Frida
Caravaggio
Basquiat
Ararat
Dreams (Segment)

Haven't seen but maybe good...

Lust for Life
Vincent and Theo

Duncan

01-28-2009, 04:05 PM

ANDREI RUBLEV
Yep.

Ezee E

01-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Nope, don't care for Andrei Rublev either.

Edvard Munch... hmm..

Wryan

01-28-2009, 04:22 PM

It wasn't my favorite Tark (Solaris or The Mirror probably), but I liked AR alright. Wasn't this the one with the young bellsmith at the end? If so, that was the film's highlight for me.

Melville

01-28-2009, 04:55 PM

ANDREI RUBLEV
F for Fake (film essay)
Edvard Munch

These. Though I prefer Andrei Rublev overall, Edvard Munch is a better biography and depiction of painting. Rublev is more about humanity in general, faith, and art as it relates to them. Munch is more specifically about Munch and his particular craft.

Pollock is forgettable.

Raiders

01-28-2009, 06:11 PM

La belle noiseuse and Portrait of Jennie

(this is assuming we aren't restricting this to historical painters only)

Qrazy

01-28-2009, 06:15 PM

Nope, don't care for Andrei Rublev either.

Most days I consider it the best film ever made.

Dead & Messed Up

01-28-2009, 07:29 PM

The Agony and the Ecstasy? Anyone seen? I haven't.

I quite liked it. Cheesy, but it's Heston.

Watashi

01-28-2009, 07:32 PM

The last film I just watched is an essential viewing about painting particularly to Pollock.

Yxklyx

01-28-2009, 08:02 PM

The Draughtman's Contract. I did not like Goya in Bordeaux.

balmakboor

01-28-2009, 08:15 PM

I thought Pollock was pretty great actually.

Robby P

01-28-2009, 08:27 PM

Girl With a Pearl Earing? Does that count?

Spinal

01-28-2009, 10:23 PM

Since most of the top answers have been taken, I will just add that there is a DVD available of Sondheim's stage production, Sunday in the Park with George, and it is quite good.

Qrazy

01-28-2009, 10:45 PM

I haven't seen it but because it's Forman it's probably at least decent... Goya's Ghosts.

Also The Horse's Mouth deserves a mention for Alec Guiness' madcap artistry.

Spinal

01-28-2009, 10:47 PM

I haven't seen it but because it's Forman it's probably at least decent... Goya's Ghosts.

Ack. Can't believe I forgot that one. Yeah, it's great.

number8

01-29-2009, 12:10 AM

Please avoid Klimnt.

But Who the Fuck is Jackson Pollock?! is pretty entertaining.

MadMan

01-29-2009, 01:17 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with the 2001 additions to The Exorcist.

And The Omen was a huge disappointment for me.Well I would like to see the original before I watch the version with the additions thrown in. It would be like seeing Apocalypse Now: Redux before viewing the original 1979 film.

The Omen(1976) was disappointing? Are you sure you're not talking about the 2006 remake? :P

Duck Soup was a highly entertaining, fun, and quite funny satire. Its also the first Marx Brothers film I have ever seen. Bob Roberts is one of the best political satires/comedies I have ever seen, and might just make my Best of the 90s list. Reviews coming for both, as they are the first two films I've seen this month that I really felt warranted being written about.

Up next is Chimes at Midnight and Henry the V. My mind is continuing to subconsciously rent films based on theme.

Amnesiac

01-29-2009, 02:15 AM

http://i43.tinypic.com/29y02ma.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/34xgmf7.jpg

Sophia Loren and Daniel Day-Lewis cruising around Rome, filming scenes for Nine.

Mysterious Dude

01-29-2009, 02:57 AM

She looks pretty good for an incredibly old person.

Amnesiac

01-29-2009, 03:35 AM

I really can't wait for that movie. I thought it was going to be a long time until we got another Daniel Day-Lewis performance, let alone one in a film that bears a connection to 8 1/2.

Here's another pic of DDL with Judi Dench:

http://bauergriffinonline.com/bfm_gallery/2009/01/lewis dench/gallery_enlarged/gallery_enlarged-dench_lewis_nine.jpg

Boner M

01-29-2009, 10:31 AM

I really can't wait for that movie. I thought it was going to be a long time until we got another Daniel Day-Lewis performance, let alone one in a film that bears a connection to 8 1/2.
Rob Marshall, though.

Weekend viewings:

L'Enfer (Chabrol)
Girl Shy
Judex
Border Incident
Jüha
The Apple

Ezee E

01-29-2009, 01:46 PM

Weekend:
The Lucky Ones
Silent Movie
High Anxiety

Frost/Nixon
Defiance

megladon8

01-29-2009, 01:50 PM

Weekend...

Dirty Harry (got the BluRay set for my dad for his birthday, which is today)

Other than that, no idea what I'll be watching.

Spinal

01-29-2009, 02:58 PM

Weekend:

From Beyond
The Duchess

Maybe:

Milk
The Reader

Melville

01-29-2009, 03:03 PM

Weekend:

Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Wall-E

Ivan Drago

01-29-2009, 04:09 PM

Duck Soup might be my favorite comedy of all time. Glad you liked it, MadMan.

"I can see you right now in the kitchen, bending over a hot stove. But I can't see the stove."

Ezee E

01-29-2009, 04:11 PM

It's interesting to compare the movies Stop-Loss and The Lucky Ones. While Stop-Loss certainly isn't great by any means, it certainly gives you the feeling that these former soldiers were affected by the war, whereas The Lucky Ones just seems to have the three main characters moping around. Both movies, the soldiers are honored non-stop, but in The Lucky Ones, the soldiers seem to whore their status around in order to get a rental car, discounts, and so on. It's not appealing at all.

Stop-Loss was on the verge of being something great. The Lucky Ones is on the verge of being awful. Tim Robbins and Rachel McAdams, two actors that I think are pretty talented, are simply mediocre here, with not much to use.

Yick.

Scar

01-29-2009, 04:22 PM

The Exorcist: Prefer the original without the Spider Walk.

Rosemary's Baby: Enjoyed the ending, just wished I had gone into it blind, which is damn near impossible considering the movie's age, and the fact that I frequent movie boards.

The Omen: Love it. Love the music, and the final shot in the movie is awesome.

Ezee E

01-29-2009, 04:25 PM

The Spider Walk, while creepy, comes out of nowhere, has no buildup, and no resolution. I mean, something had to be done to her.

Watching it in the context of the movie, it's one of the bigger WTF moments I can think of.

Yxklyx

01-29-2009, 04:27 PM

Possible Weekend:

Wanda
Sherman's March
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid

MadMan

01-29-2009, 05:28 PM

Duck Soup might be my favorite comedy of all time. Glad you liked it, MadMan.

"I can see you right now in the kitchen, bending over a hot stove. But I can't see the stove."Hah, I love that line. The dialogue in that film is so fast, furious, funny, and very smart-ass. A rather highly quotable movie.

The Omen(1976) has one of the greatest, creepiest scores in movie history. Jerry Goldsmith, like Morricone with the Leone westerns, is a great example of how much a composer really contributes to film.

Weekend:

*Chimes at Midnight
*Henry the V
*Jules and Jim
*White Heat

And maybe a theater viewing, and some further rentals. Oh and the Super Bowl, of course.

Dukefrukem

01-29-2009, 06:53 PM

haha.. don't ask me why but i watched Cursed, thinking it could be a cool Werewolf flick but, it failed it almost every aspect of the film. It wasn't even an interesting Werewolf story. And the casting didn't help make it interesting at all. Not even Joshua Jackson could save it. Cursed as expected, didn't make my Top 10 Films First Seen During 2009

Cursed [41]

Winston*

01-29-2009, 07:06 PM

Not even Joshua Jackson could save it.

Weekend options.

Margot at the Wedding
Lars and the Real Girl
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot

Stay Puft

01-29-2009, 07:36 PM

Weekend possibilities:

The Edge of Heaven
The Fall
CJ7
Paraguayan Hammock

Knocked two more off the list last week. Four more from the original pile, plus I picked up these:

Summer Palace
Boarding Gate
My Winnipeg

But I'm still going to prioritize Still Life and/or Don't Touch the Axe, assuming I can find copies.

Russ

01-29-2009, 08:05 PM

Weekend possibilities:

Paraguayan Hammock
I've read some interesting things about this one. Please share your thoughts if you see it.

Watashi

01-29-2009, 08:08 PM

I've only watched one movie in the past two weeks, so I don't think I'll get to any films this weekend.

soitgoes...

01-29-2009, 08:24 PM

The only thing I have planned for this weekend is finishing Les Vampires.

Dukefrukem

01-29-2009, 09:21 PM

I want to go see the Wrestler or the new Underworld film this weekend. Meh

Ivan Drago

01-29-2009, 09:41 PM

Weekend:

The Wrestler (finally)
Revolutionary Road

chrisnu

01-29-2009, 09:48 PM

I will probably catch Frost/Nixon and Milk over the weekend. That will make four out of five BP nominees that I have seen (have no desire to see The Reader).

MadMan

01-30-2009, 01:02 AM

Chimes at Midnight was pretty fantastic, even though I must confess I did not understand all of the dialogue. This film also sports another great performance from Orson Welles, who seems to have the distinction of being a great actor as well as a great director. That's now three reviews I have to write.

Spinal

01-30-2009, 01:07 AM

I will probably catch Frost/Nixon and Milk over the weekend. That will make four out of five BP nominees that I have seen (have no desire to see The Reader).

Frost/Nixon is the one that I have no interest in. Actually very excited about seeing The Reader after seeing the trailer.

The Mike

01-30-2009, 01:48 AM

Weekend hopes:
Phase IV
A Matter of Life and Death
Long Weekend
Earth vs. The Flying Saucers
Bloodsuckers from Outer Space

And hopefully Taken in theater. Plus, of course, that whole Soup Bowl thing Sunday afternoon.

lovejuice

01-30-2009, 03:26 AM

Frost/Nixon is the one that I have no interest in. Actually very excited about seeing The Reader after seeing the trailer.

i concur. i don't think i'll like the movie, but have to admit that the trailer is well-done.

Ivan Drago

01-30-2009, 04:22 AM

I really liked Frost/Nixon. It might be my favorite out of the BP nominees.

Bosco B Thug

01-30-2009, 09:40 AM

The Uninvited (the A Tale of Two Sisters remake) - Bleergghh. Bleeeergghh. That's the sound of me literally feeling physically ill while I watched this endlessly irritating, endlessly imbecilic movie. I'm usually very forgiving towards remakes, but just thinking about the artistry of A Tale of Two Sisters compared to this laughably cliched and awkward and visionless remake did make me want to puke. Throughout, I squirmed in my seat, groaned audibly, slapped my palm against my forehead, and broke into a drool of imitated braindeadness, without fear of disrupting the movie-goers around me.

That said, it does offer its own interesting spin on

the big twist of the original. Its version of events is much more mean-spirited and psychologically subversive than 'Two Sisters's, which actually works and gives the film some cause for its shooting for a more sexed-up and American youthful appeal - albeit with oh-so-irritating dialogue straight from a CW show (that jab I lifted from the Boston Globe review).

This was such a badly made movie, I remember there was a point where I suddenly felt like I was watching a porno. I was probably taking in some of the eye candy the film does provide, while around me I was nevertheless aware I was surrounded by the guffaws and giggles of companions preoccupied with treating the narrative crafting around it with ironic mocking.

Watched it for free.

megladon8

01-30-2009, 11:52 AM

What I want to know about this movie is why that Arielle Kebbel is suddenly everywhere.

I'd never even heard of her until about 2 months ago, when suddenly her picture appears on the IMDb pages for tons of films that she's not even remotely involved in.

It looks like she's had supporting roles in several films before now, but nothing really of note, and nothing to explain why she's suddenly the new big thing in IMDb photos.

megladon8

01-30-2009, 01:03 PM

Wasn't sure where else to post these.

Found them on Cinematical this morning. Hungarian posters for the Star Wars original trilogy...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3946/anhmf6.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5564/esbyb2.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/182/rotjih9.jpg

Wryan

01-30-2009, 02:03 PM

Wasn't sure where else to post these.

Found them on Cinematical this morning. Hungarian posters for the Star Wars original trilogy...

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3946/anhmf6.jpg

Awesome stuff, but I must have missed that dude with the sword...

EDIT: And further, they used R2 as Vader's shoulder epaulet armor piece.

And further still, his face/visor looks JUST like Daffy Duck.

Yxklyx

01-30-2009, 02:38 PM

Sherman's March (1986, Ross McElwee) was exciting and refreshing. A very unique film as it's part self-documentary (any others out there?). The description of the film is a bit misleading - I was expecting a documentary of Sherman's March which morphs into something else as it progresses (akin to My Kid Could Paint That) but the film is edited from the start such that Sherman's March is just interwoven with all the other themes - and boy is this movie chock full of interesting themes/ideas/parallels. In part a documentary about women (perhaps specifically women of The South), The South, total war, relationships, life and everything else. The filmmaker has gotten some exceptional and extremely insightful footage on a wide range of topics and has a nice backbone holding everything together. A very honest film and often laugh-out-loud funny. Very entertaining as well as compelling. Everyone should see it. 9/10

Dead & Messed Up

01-30-2009, 06:03 PM

The more I reflect on it, the more I realize that Beowulf was awesome.

Kurosawa Fan

01-30-2009, 06:05 PM

The more I reflect on it, the more I realize that Beowulf was awesome.

You should stop reflecting.

Watashi

01-30-2009, 06:49 PM

Beowulf is awesome.

NickGlass

01-30-2009, 07:00 PM

You know what's actually awesome? Sherman's March.

megladon8

01-30-2009, 07:01 PM

You know what's actually awesome? Sherman's March.

I really like your new avatar...such a wonderful movie :)

NickGlass

01-30-2009, 07:14 PM

I really like your new avatar...such a wonderful movie :)

...speaking of AWESOME. Thanks, man.

Dead & Messed Up

01-30-2009, 07:34 PM

You know what's actually awesome? Sherman's March.

My documentary teacher in college praised it relentlessly. Perhaps I should've listened.

MadMan

01-30-2009, 07:57 PM

Further Weekend viewing (that will pretty much replace the rest of what I posted earlier):

*Lakeville Terrence-I expect full unintentional hilarity
*W-Some sizable expectations for this one
*The Miracle at Saint Ana-No idea if this will be any good
*My Name is Bruce-Hey this could be alright

Thank God for friends who work at certain big rental chains.

transmogrifier

01-30-2009, 08:11 PM

1. Qrazy 2,279
2. Rowland 1,321
3. Spinal 1,234
4. megladon8 1,195
5. Sven 991
6. Ezee E 853
7. Sycophant 789
8. Raiders 785
9. MadMan 747
10. Watashi 731

MadMan

01-30-2009, 08:14 PM

Major Dundee (1964) - 71Thoughts? I saw it last year and found it to be a great, grand epic.

And hey I'm in the Top 10 for FDT posting. Cool, I guess. Sven should return, notch post 1,000 in here, and then leave again.

Kurosawa Fan

01-30-2009, 08:16 PM

1. Qrazy 2,279
2. Rowland 1,321
3. Spinal 1,234
4. megladon8 1,195
5. Sven 991
6. Ezee E 853
7. Sycophant 789
8. Raiders 785
9. MadMan 747
10. Watashi 731

It's staggering how little I post in this thread compared to how often I post on the site. I'm not even in the top twenty, if I counted correctly.

Winston*

01-30-2009, 08:29 PM

It's staggering how little I post in this thread compared to how often I post on the site. I'm not even in the top twenty, if I counted correctly.

I have twice your posts in this thread and a third of your posts overall. I think you need to man up and start posting more about movies and less about your bullshit sports.

Rowland

01-30-2009, 08:31 PM

Yeah, I'm the second-most poster in this thread (which frankly surprises me, given my generally absent presence of late), and I don't even rank in the top ten for the site's total.

Sycophant

01-30-2009, 08:51 PM

Wow. That really makes me wish more of my posts were substantial.

+1

Scar

01-30-2009, 08:53 PM

Watching Jesus Camp.

Gonna need some Jesus juice to not be too horrified!

Sycophant

01-30-2009, 08:53 PM

KF, you have posted more in Random Thoughts than you have in the FDT. This makes me feel better about how I'm the second-biggest poster in Random Thoughts.

Kurosawa Fan

01-30-2009, 09:39 PM

I have twice your posts in this thread and a third of your posts overall. I think you need to man up and start posting more about movies and less about your bullshit sports.

This coming from the guy who just spent part of his life calculating those numbers.

MadMan

01-30-2009, 10:05 PM

Wow. That really makes me wish more of my posts were substantial.

+1I never worry about that. If I did, I would have quit posting ages ago :P

Ezee E

01-30-2009, 10:57 PM

I'm in the top ten of both. Does that mean anything?

Rowland

01-30-2009, 11:13 PM

National Treasure (Jon Turteltaub, 2004) 61

Unjustly maligned action/adventure movie, with a heavy emphasis on its spirited sense of adventure that proves charmingly anachronistic. All in all, this is harmless, playful escapist entertainment, and better made than these mega-budget for-hire jobs tend to be. Sure, one can argue that it butchers history, contorting it on the whims of a nationalistic treasure hunt for the entertainment of a nostalgic audience, but dammit, this irreverence is part of the fun (There's a map on the back of the Declaration? Someone get me a hairdryer!), and furthermore, the film is smart enough to play fair and to require its characters to actually think their way through shit. In the end, knowledge and wits are valued over money and power. The recent Kingdom of the Crystal Skull may be more formally accomplished and flirt with deeper themes, but this pseudo-Indiana-Jones reimagining by the Bruckheimer factory is the superior picture.

Winston*

01-30-2009, 11:17 PM

This coming from the guy who just spent part of his life calculating those numbers.

This post would've made sense if I had told you to post less in general and spend more time with your family (which you shouldn't do btw).

Qrazy

01-30-2009, 11:23 PM

Wow. That really makes me wish more of my posts were substantial.

+1

Really? It just makes me happy about winning! Although winning really equals failing... IRL... but like... yeah and stuff... at least the internets has provided me with a plethora of acronyms to release at will.

transmogrifier

01-30-2009, 11:31 PM

1. Qrazy 2,279
2. Rowland 1,321
3. Spinal 1,234
4. megladon8 1,195
5. Sven 991
6. Ezee E 853
7. Sycophant 789
8. Raiders 785
9. MadMan 747
10. Watashi 731

The most informative thing for me is the proof of the equation:

Rowland + Sven = Qrazy

dreamdead

01-31-2009, 01:27 AM

Vincente Minnelli's Some Came Running crashes and burns in its lurid finale, where Sinatra and Martin are forced into a genre exercise about jilted lovers amidst a county fair atmosphere that Minnelli overdoes in its visual design. Still, before that point the film has a solid Nicholas Ray melodrama atmosphere that is largely successful, with the central conflict about suburbia's underbelly being nicely exposed as fragile, and Sinatra's attempt to reconcile his alienated lifestyle with Martha Hyer's schoolteacher Gwen being the best sections of the film, as they get closest to a clear dialectic before the genre exercise of the ending subsumes that sentiment. The other problem is that Bernstein's score is far too high in the mix and thus overpowers the quieter in a typically Hollywood fashion. That said, it's still mighty interesting as a film in patches.

Gus van Sant's Paranoid Park lacks in its narrative complexity and in its acting capabilities, yet somehow succeeds those hindrances. This largely comes because of the beatific cinematography and the mood that van Sant lets envelop his film. There's a sense throughout that moments of insignificance (in the shower, for example) suddenly are imbued with a quiet epiphany, all of which are orchestrated subtly and poetically. And while Gabe Nevins' Alex isn't especially actorly as a lead, I rather liked the naturalness that Lauren McKinney gave Macy, the emo-goth girl who befriends Alex toward the end. This is a film elevated by quality direction and technical artistry.

DavidSeven

01-31-2009, 03:13 AM

Raiders

01-31-2009, 03:25 AM

I enjoyed Planet Terror. I did not enjoy Death Proof. I wrote some stuff many months ago, but really, I don't care about any of that. Tarantino simply did not entertain me with that film.

Watashi

01-31-2009, 04:44 AM

Ivan Drago

01-31-2009, 05:06 AM

My love for Grindhouse need not be spoken.

Dead & Messed Up

01-31-2009, 05:15 AM

Rewatched Grindhouse.

Planet Terror is a lot shittier than I remember. Some decent tonal work, but mostly worthless otherwise.

Death Proof -- still masterful. Freakin' masterful. It's the only other Tarantino that comes close to being in the same ballpark as Pulp Fiction.

I think both are enjoyable tripe that point to their directors best and worst impulses. For Rodriguez, his talent for ante-upping absurdity and his problem with deadening, unending action. For Tarantino, his ability to find the soul of pulp and his inability to know when to shut the hell up and get on with it.

thefourthwall

01-31-2009, 05:55 AM

The Unborn vs. The Uninvited

Name Talent: Gary Oldman > David Straithain
Heroine: Odette Yustman < Emily Browning*
Best Friend: Superstitious Sistah > Drunk Sister
Boyfriend: Nondescript blonde with fauxhawk "Mark" < Nondescript blonde with longish hair "Matt"
Incredibly Expensive House in: Chicago < Maine
Where the Evil Orginates: Spirits < Sociopaths
Important Gestures: Nazis > Hamlet
Contorting Bodies: check to both
Creepy Children: Unborn > Uninvited
Ill-Concieved Resolution: Unclear < Unbelievable

*Yustman is probably more, ahem, developed, and definitely shows a lot more skin, so if I was into that the winner might change.

Philosophe_rouge

01-31-2009, 06:01 AM

The National Film Board of Canada is streaming several hundreds of films on their website for free right now, so awesome.

http://www.nfb.ca

Bosco B Thug

01-31-2009, 06:09 AM

Bosco B Thug

01-31-2009, 06:32 AM

The Unborn vs. The Uninvited

Name Talent: Gary Oldman > David Straithain
Heroine: Odette Yustman < Emily Browning*
Best Friend: Superstitious Sistah > Drunk Sister - Drunk sister's consistent barrage of annoyingly crowd-pleasing quips and sass were the best part of the film. Got a lot of laughs from the high school crowd.
Boyfriend: Nondescript blonde with fauxhawk "Mark" < Nondescript blonde with longish hair "Matt"
Incredibly Expensive House in: Chicago < Maine
Where the Evil Orginates: Spirits < Sociopaths - Yeah! Have you seen the original? I liked this variation on the story. I love the change in tone towards the end when the secret's out.
Important Gestures: Nazis > Hamlet
Contorting Bodies: check to both
Creepy Children: Unborn > Uninvited - The creepy children in 'Uninvited' were laughable. Why do scary ghost children always need to act and be dressed as if their parents are crazy, repressive churchbillies?
Ill-Concieved Resolution: Unclear < Unbelievable

*Yustman is probably more, ahem, developed, and definitely shows a lot more skin, so if I was into that the winner might change. Haha, Browning was pretty good, I guess, but we all know the main reason Roger Ebert's review is so creepy.

Yxklyx

01-31-2009, 01:21 PM

Planet Terror is a cinematic masterpiece.

Kurosawa Fan

01-31-2009, 02:18 PM

Planet Terror is a cinematic masterpiece.

Ew. No. Just no.

Mal

01-31-2009, 02:40 PM

Planet Terror is tolerable and fun. Death Proof... cinematic wank by Tarantino.

Russ

01-31-2009, 03:39 PM

Anyone here seen the documentary, My Name is Alan, and I Paint Pictures?

Arthur Seaton

01-31-2009, 04:48 PM

Kung-Fu Panda over WALL-E at the Annies? What the?

Link from Variety here. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999390.html?categoryid=3 275&cs=1&nid=2562#)

Scar

01-31-2009, 04:55 PM

Kung-Fu Panda over WALL-E at the Annies? What the?

Link from Variety here. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999390.html?categoryid=3 275&cs=1&nid=2562#)

No bueno.

MadMan

01-31-2009, 07:59 PM

I'm sick to death of talking about Grindhouse. Both films are good, with QT's being slightly better. Overall, neither are great films. It was an awesome, highly entertaining theater experience. The end.

And I'm not going to post about any of the movies I've seen until I write decent reviews for all of them. And actually post those here. Or maybe not.

Qrazy

01-31-2009, 09:48 PM

[ETM]

01-31-2009, 10:03 PM

Kung-Fu Panda over WALL-E at the Annies? What the?

Even for music?! Wall-E's score is one of the best of the year, period.:crazy:

transmogrifier

01-31-2009, 10:15 PM

Kung-Fu Panda over WALL-E at the Annies? What the?

Link from Variety here. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999390.html?categoryid=3 275&cs=1&nid=2562#)

I like Wall-E more than Kung Fu Panda, but the difference is small, and I'm glad it got recognised.

Watashi

01-31-2009, 10:28 PM

;135251']Even for music?! Wall-E's score is one of the best of the year, period.:crazy:
The score for Kung Fu Panda is great and I'm glad it's being noticed.

Winston*

02-01-2009, 12:22 AM

Hmm. Basically hated Margot at the Wedding. Reminded me a lot of Napoleon Dynamite.

Boner M

02-01-2009, 12:35 AM

Reminded me a lot of Napoleon Dynamite.
:|

Winston*

02-01-2009, 12:37 AM

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I did not realise you were a fan of Napoleon Dynamite.

BirdsAteMyFace

02-01-2009, 12:43 AM

This post is sex.You don't know what sex is.

Scar

02-01-2009, 12:52 AM

First time I watched Beowulf, I was kind eh towards it.

Second (and subsequent viewings): OMFG THIS FUCKING ROCKS!!!!!!1

Boner M

02-01-2009, 12:53 AM

I did not realise you were a fan of Napoleon Dynamite.:confused:

Winston*

02-01-2009, 01:22 AM

:confused:
:pritch:

Anyway, I couldn't shake the Napoleon Dynamite vibe I was getting watching the movie. I feel they come from similar angles. It's this parade of patheticness approach to characterisation, contempt for their characters, situations that exist purely to show how sad these peoples lives are. Difference is that Napoleon Dynamite tries to play much more for quirky humour and Margot feigns realism. As well as much of the dialogue seeming to me to be in kind of a similar tone to Napoleon Dynamite dialogue with added edginess, especially that of Jack Black and the son. It makes sense to me.

Course I could be just talking out of my arse here. That's a strong possibility.

megladon8

02-01-2009, 01:43 AM

Dirty Harry was awesome.

I was worried that it was leading up to an almost Taxi Driver-esque display of moral confusion, but no, it all ended pretty well.

A few technical quibbles aside (some of the filming is much too dark, and there's one sequence that's edited poorly and could lead you to believe it's jumping back and forth between day and night) this was a great time.

Watashi

02-01-2009, 06:22 AM

You don't know what sex is.
It's true. :sad:

Melville

02-01-2009, 06:17 PM

Weekend:

Vicky Cristina Barcelona
Wall-E
Both these movies were checked out from the video store, so I got Flight of the Red Balloon instead. It was great. A reverie of the everyday. I loved the use of reflections and blurred foreground objects, which add to the sense of self-reflexivity introduced by the mentions of the previous movie, the painting of the red balloon, and the movie-within-a-movie shots. All of those things added to the mood of reverie, of contemplation, while blurring the lines between story and reality, as if trying to imbue reality with the magic of a storybook. Great stuff.

chrisnu

02-01-2009, 10:02 PM

Milk - a Best Picture nominee that actually deserved to be one! It works well because the acting is uniformly outstanding (although I think that James Franco should've been getting the awards attention, not Josh Brolin), it doesn't deify his character, and it is primarily focused on one period of Milk's life. There's a very palpable feeling of being in the moment, right in the middle of all the social unrest, that you're witnessing first-hand Milk's perseverance and courage, and that it took a group of people to foster change, through the motivation of the many. It also does not over-explain any of the characters. I liked that you don't get Jack, Cleve and Dan White entirely figured out. The movie also came out at precisely the right time, considering that legislation which affected the human rights Milk was fighting for was put to vote, both then and now. Great work.

Bosco B Thug

02-02-2009, 12:06 AM

There are just those films where you can tell each shot, each beat of the film, each cut is carefully thought over and decided on by the director. There is a single, new "thought" behind each motion the film makes. Birth is one of those films. Death Proof is another. Fat Girl comes to mind, and Weerasathakul, too, even if he's a bit static too much. There really aren't many. I can take other of my most favorite and/or admired films of the past year - Into the Wild, Sweeney Todd, Rachel Getting Married, even Zodiac - and I could not say the same thing about those films.

I think a certain degree of spareness and narrative minimalism ties all the films I previously mentioned together. They are the non-story driven films. Nor are they aesthetic-driven films. All films have an aesthetic, but Into the Wild's aesthetic flurry is an aesthetic drive. Rachel Getting Married free-wheels it with its "verite"-type aesthetic. Sweeney Todd is a little too rote and conventional in its moving with the plot.

Birth and those other films I grouped with it feel free to distance themselves from a single aesthetic or the conventional flow of the narrative, which makes them much more able to come up with striking, experimental ways to excite a viewer with each step of the film.

The only reason I'm not giving Birth a 9 is because it is a little thin and anemic, plot and idea-wise. But it's such a moving, exciting piece of filmmaking.

My Blueberry Nights is not an example of this. MBN is an aesthetic driven film. Kar Wai is a bit too comfortable with his aesthetic and I feel he kind of goes on auto-pilot much of the time. His directing is very repetitive. It's not a bad film, though. I liked it well enough, and Natalie Portman is very good playing against type.

The Dunwich Horror - Weird and amusing. It's pretty much a film about Sandra Dee and her adventures in date-rape. Also a very stylistically pretentious film... It's an example of a director (Daniel Haller) who was previously an art designer, and it seems you can tell... He has a great eye, a very lofty sense of style, and generally a great "art designer" sense of directing - but by "great," I mean you can't take it seriously when put in the context of a story. If this film were made with the intelligent design behind Flaming Creatures or a Guy Maddin film, Haller would've been a genius. But in reality, this is just a very silly movie.

Ezee E

02-02-2009, 05:51 AM

Oh buddy...

Martin Scorsese has been talking about doing Silence this entire decade, and it looks like he might finally start to shoot it at the end of the year.

Main roles could be Daniel Day-Lewis, Benicio Del Toro, and Gael Garcia Bernal.

He said he'd be doing this after The Aviator, but he has since done two other movies and two documentaries. We'll see, but this is one that I've been looking forward to for quite some time.

I'd make a thread, but I doubt we'll even see it until 2011.

Spinal

02-02-2009, 07:03 AM

I think that the title The Duchess is too generic.

Instead I suggest it should be called The Amazing Woman Who Was Pregnant for Most of Her Adult Life and Yet Somehow Retained the Breasts of a Twelve-Year Old.

Amnesiac

02-02-2009, 08:05 AM

Martin Scorsese has been talking about doing Silence this entire decade, and it looks like he might finally start to shoot it at the end of the year.

Main roles could be Daniel Day-Lewis, Benicio Del Toro, and Gael Garcia Bernal.

I came here to post this exact bit of info. Quite exciting.

The adaptation is going to be done by Jay Cocks, who also adapted The Age of Innocence and also penned Gangs of New York.

Rowland

02-02-2009, 08:38 AM

I still can't believe Marty is wasting his time with an adaptation of that crappy Lehane novel, Shutter Island.

Winston*

02-02-2009, 10:13 AM

Thunderbolt and Lightfoot - Pretty entertaining serio-comic heist movie with this amazing sequence involving rabbits. It's also got this bizarre homoerotic / misogynistic thread running through it, like more so than your average buddy movie.

Also it has this movie poster:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ea/Thunderbolt_and_Lightfoot_movi e_poster.jpg/368px-Thunderbolt_and_Lightfoot_movi e_poster.jpg

Ezee E

02-02-2009, 12:24 PM

I still can't believe Marty is wasting his time with an adaptation of that crappy Lehane novel, Shutter Island.
After reading it, I hope he overstylizes it. Akin to what he's done with Cape Fear.

Boner M

02-02-2009, 12:25 PM

I still can't believe Marty is wasting his time with an adaptation of that crappy Lehane novel, Shutter Island.
Crappy novels can often make great films.

megladon8

02-02-2009, 02:59 PM

I thought Lehane was supposed to write wonderful novels. Was this just a rotten one?

And I know Scorsese is also working on a new crime saga film with Robert De Niro.

Ezee E

02-02-2009, 03:05 PM

I thought Lehane was supposed to write wonderful novels. Was this just a rotten one?

And I know Scorsese is also working on a new crime saga film with Robert De Niro.

Lehane did Mystic River and Gone Baby Gone, both of which I haven't read.

Shutter Island, which I did read, doesn't seem like Scorsese material. There will be good moments in it, but I hope that some of the novel is changed. A good amount of it actually. I'd much prefer Silence to this.

The DeNiro one was just a rumor.

The only other project he is working on is the pilot for a HBO TV Show.

DavidSeven

02-02-2009, 03:09 PM

Oh buddy...

Martin Scorsese has been talking about doing Silence this entire decade, and it looks like he might finally start to shoot it at the end of the year.

Eh. I like Scorsese better in contemporary(ish) settings. That is unless we're talking about something like The Last Temptation where his modern sensibilities really gives the film some juice. He seems restricted in his other period pieces. Not too excited about this one.

Ezee E

02-02-2009, 03:22 PM

Eh. I like Scorsese better in contemporary(ish) settings. That is unless we're talking about something like The Last Temptation where his modern sensibilities really gives the film some juice. He seems restricted in his other period pieces. Not too excited about this one.
I'd say the story fits Scorsese perfectly based on the themes of guilt and spirituality that will be involved in this. I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of Last Temptation of Christ than Age of Innocence or Gangs of New York.

Stay Puft

02-02-2009, 05:57 PM

While we're on the topic of the Scorsese movie, has anybody seen Masahiro Shinoda's adaptation of Chinmoku (Silence)? I just looked it up and it features Tetsuro Tamba and Mako! I was only mildly impressed with Samurai Spy, but I'd like to check out more of his work.

Rowland

02-02-2009, 09:05 PM

After reading it, I hope he overstylizes it. Akin to what he's done with Cape Fear.Yeah, the only chance it has to work at all is if he treats it as pure pulp.

Watashi

02-02-2009, 09:40 PM

Duke posted it in the T4 thread, but here's an audio clip of Christian Bale going ballistic on the DP of Terminator: Salvation (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020209_christianbale.mp3).

It's awesome.

Spinal

02-02-2009, 10:43 PM

Watashi

02-02-2009, 10:56 PM

About what I would expect Bale to be like. Man, that guy just oozes 'prick'.
I don't see anything prickish about his outburst at all.

Spinal

02-02-2009, 10:59 PM

I don't see anything prickish about his outburst at all.

Of course not.

Scar

02-02-2009, 11:03 PM

I don't see anything prickish about his outburst at all.

You don't think it was a touch.... much?

Watashi

02-02-2009, 11:22 PM

You don't think it was a touch.... much?
We don't know what the exact circumstance is. Bale is a very serious guy and actors know how important and how much money is invested into them to make a film work. He obviously has a passion for his profession and doesn't want a two-bit DP ruin the scene for him.

This is all McG's fault. He should have stepped in from the first moment Bale started yelling.

Boner M

02-02-2009, 11:26 PM

We don't know what the exact circumstance is. Bale is a very serious guy and actors know how important and how much money is inveseted into them to make a film work. He obviously has a passion for his profession and doesn't want a two-bit DP ruin the scene for him.

This is all McG's fault. He should have stepped in from the first moment Bale started yelling.
Wats are you fucking kidding us?!?!?

[/Bale]

Milky Joe

02-02-2009, 11:35 PM

NUOH! DON'T SHAHT ME AHP!

Good gawd, what a cunt.

lovejuice

02-02-2009, 11:47 PM

I don't see anything prickish about his outburst at all.

when all you do is yelling a buncha f-words while the other guy obsequiously repeating "i'm sorry," all your excuses are out of the windows.

The Mike

02-02-2009, 11:58 PM

when all you do is yelling a buncha f-words while the other guy obsequiously repeating "i'm sorry," all your excuses are out of the windows.

Yup. Ridiculous.

MadMan

02-03-2009, 12:25 AM

I think its hilarious. He does come off as kind of a jerk, for sure. Also his accent makes the f bombs sound more funny. On the other hand, maybe the DP was being a complete and utter moron. Could be both things.

Grand Torino was not only vintage Clint Eastwood, it was also a stark, powerful film that I'm still chewing over in my mind. It tackles so many different topics and yet also manages to remain very much a simple, moral parable of sorts. It also sports one of Eastwood's best performances, although granted the guy is a much better director than he is an actor.

Watashi

02-03-2009, 12:27 AM

This happens way more often than you think. Anytime on the set of a big-budget tentpole film where "time is money" everyone is going to be antsy over every little detail. Bale pointed out that this was a repeated manner by the DP and just snapped. Could Bale resolved the issue in a quiet matter? Probably. However, maybe the DP is an amateur (and judging from his imdb page, he is) and doesn't know the pressure the actors go through to get their scenes perfect. Also, this is a film where the entire marketing and selling point is Christian Bale, you better do what he says. It's all business. God knows how many times I flip out at work over employees not doing their job correctly.

Boner M

02-03-2009, 12:28 AM

Wats, how many film sets have you worked on?

Watashi

02-03-2009, 12:33 AM

Wats, how many film sets have you worked on?
None, but I have professors and colleagues who have been on them constantly.

Watashi

02-03-2009, 12:36 AM

Hell, my douchebag screenwriting teacher works on set in Hollywood during the weekends and always comes on Monday morning with horror stories from the set. It's not all rainbows and big happy families.

The Mike

02-03-2009, 12:40 AM

It's not all rainbows and big happy families.Shit. I need something new to watch now. :cry:

Hockey, maybe? Or perhaps soccer? :confused:

Winston*

02-03-2009, 12:41 AM

No excuse for speaking to a coworker like that, no matter what the job.

Watashi

02-03-2009, 12:44 AM

But although Bale's behavior makes us think twice about taking tea with the Brit, let along working with him, Bruce Franklin, an assistant director and associate producer on the fourth Terminator film, tells E! News that Bale, a "consummate professional," just had a bad day.

"If you are working in a very intense scene and someone takes you out of your groove...It was the most emotional scene in the movie," said Franklin. "And for him to get stopped in the middle of it. He is very intensely involved in his character. He didn't walk around like that all day long. It was just a moment and it passed.

"This was my second movie with Christian, and it has always been a good experience with him," added Franklin, who also worked with the actor on 2000's Shaft. "He is so dedicated to the craft. I think someone is begging to make some noise about this, but I don't think it's fair. The art of acting is not paint by numbers, it's an art form. "

See, Bale was just having a bad day.

DavidSeven

02-03-2009, 12:47 AM

Christian Bale/David O. Russell collabo. Book. It. Now.

Sycophant

02-03-2009, 12:47 AM

Christian Bale/David O. Russell collabo. Book. It. Now.
On pay-per-view?

DavidSeven

02-03-2009, 12:49 AM

On pay-per-view?

Sold.

megladon8

02-03-2009, 01:02 AM

Yikes.

You all know I'm an enormous fan of Christian Bale, so I have to say this is pretty shocking to me.

I always knew he had a reputation for being very intense and dedicated, but I agree with everyone who's said it - that was going overboard, and ventured into being childish with how he just wouldn't let it go.

I would like to believe all the "he's having a bad day", "this is the second time the guy screwed up", "Bale's under a lot of pressure" stuff...but that was just ridiculous.

Boner M

02-03-2009, 01:09 AM

I think Bale should ditch the whole technical method thing and focus more on injecting some of his own charm and personality into his roles.

Oh wait, that's right. He doesn't have any charm or personality!

megladon8

02-03-2009, 01:26 AM

Found these on Cinematical today. If popular movies were 1960s book covers...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4133/33029564zp7.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33029564zp7.jpg) http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4602/38007258hp6.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38007258hp6.jpg) http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2535/36403933yj5.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36403933yj5.jpg)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9023/95020175fs9.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95020175fs9.jpg) http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2927/11266872wq1.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11266872wq1.jpg) http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3668/69149799nu5.th.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69149799nu5.jpg)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6084/13509710jo7.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13509710jo7.jpg)

Ezee E

02-03-2009, 01:37 AM

Yeah, overboard, and hopefully McG did something about it later so that Bale would never do such a thing again.

Sycophant

02-03-2009, 01:44 AM

Finally listened to the clip. It is neither hilarious nor awesome.

Most importantly, this shit should've never left the set.

megladon8

02-03-2009, 01:49 AM

Finally listened to the clip. It is neither hilarious nor awesome.

You don't know what you're talking about. Duke said it was a riot!

Mysterious Dude

02-03-2009, 01:57 AM

However, maybe the DP is an amateur (and judging from his imdb page, he is)
I don't know how you're getting that from his imdb page. From what I see, he's been a DP for over ten years and has done several major films.

number8

02-03-2009, 02:53 AM

Yeah, overboard, and hopefully McG did something about it later so that Bale would never do such a thing again.

"So if we have a sequel, we can do it with Shane again, right?"
"Yes, absolutely. I'm fucking sorry, man, it's just ever since Batman, you know?"
"You won't yell at him?"
"I won't."
"Promise?"
"G, I swear to God I --"
"SWEAR TO ME!!"
"..."
"Heh. You, uh, see what I did there? That was --"
"I know where it's from. Don't do that again or I will kill you and your fucking McFamily, okay?"
"Okay."
"Okay."

Ezee E

02-03-2009, 02:56 AM

Yeah, Bale sounded scarier with that natural scream instead of Batman scream.

Dukefrukem

02-03-2009, 02:58 AM

stupid question, what is McG ?

Mysterious Dude

02-03-2009, 03:00 AM

stupid question, what is McG ?
McG is the reason Christian Bale shouldn't get so worked up over the movie he's making.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629334/

number8

02-03-2009, 03:04 AM

stupid question, what is McG ?

You've never seen a McG movie? That's surprising.

Yes, that was mean.

chrisnu

02-03-2009, 03:09 AM

Finally listened to the clip. It is neither hilarious nor awesome.

Most importantly, this shit should've never left the set.
I agree entirely. How is this even remotely acceptable behavior?

This is like something out of a movie about an actor, where he has an absolute meltdown in front of everyone, and subsequently ends up on an alcohol and cocaine binge, and fired.

Dead & Messed Up

02-03-2009, 03:13 AM

Yeah, overboard, and hopefully McG did something about it later so that Bale would never do such a thing again.

He made Bale watch Newsies on a loop. Brutal.

Rowland

02-03-2009, 03:24 AM

My Blueberry Nights (Wong Kar-Wai, 2008) 74

Intoxicatingly lush romanticism here, imbued by Wong with a loose, playful tone that proves irresistible, especially as it productively clashes with a narrative that is more conventional and pat than his work tends to be. This comparatively structured approach feels less like pandering to mainstream audiences than it does a conscious decision to experiment with archetypal American genres tropes that seems reasonable and even organic within the context of his first HK-free picture. Besides, he remains interested first and foremost in expressing emotional texture through his luminous, liquid style, as sensual and emotive as ever. This picture has been accused of style-over-substance, as if style hasn't always been the predominant source of substance in Wong's past output, and furthermore, I feel this accusation is doubly unfair because there IS substance here, as the characters waxing philosophical about the past and the future emphasizes how heartache and mourning exist primarily as phantoms that we can only sort through present-tense projection (all the metaphorical talk of keys and what have you) and attempted human bonding. All in all, this is a beautiful, haunted work, all the more so for being so light and unassuming.

Derek

02-03-2009, 03:53 AM

This picture has been accused of style-over-substance, as if style hasn't always been the predominant source of substance in Wong's past output, and furthermore, I feel this accusation is doubly unfair because there IS substance here, as the characters waxing philosophical about the past and the future emphasizes how heartache and mourning exist primarily as phantoms that we can only sort through present-tense projection (all the metaphorical talk of keys and what have you) and attempted human bonding.

This didn't work quite as well for me as a whole, but I agree that claims that this is pure style are misguided. I found Wong's style, as usual, to be highly expressive in and of itself and crucial in setting the mood for his mournful characters to struggle escaping the past. Several scenes with Straitharn and Jude Law's brief encounter with Cat Power still hold an emotional resonance even months after I've seen it.

Qrazy

02-03-2009, 04:33 AM

Qrazy

02-03-2009, 04:39 AM

We don't know what the exact circumstance is. Bale is a very serious guy and actors know how important and how much money is invested into them to make a film work. He obviously has a passion for his profession and doesn't want a two-bit DP ruin the scene for him.

This is all McG's fault. He should have stepped in from the first moment Bale started yelling.

There's no call for that diva garbage. If the scene was ruined it's not Bale's money being spent. Tell the DP not to walk again and do another take, the end.

megladon8

02-03-2009, 05:42 AM

I'm so upset, I just burned all my Christian Bale DVDs.

I also deleted the scores to both his Batman movies off my iTunes, because they remind me of him.

Watashi

02-03-2009, 06:02 AM

I'm so upset, I just burned all my Christian Bale DVDs.

I also deleted the scores to both his Batman movies off my iTunes, because they remind me of him.
.............

Milky Joe

02-03-2009, 06:20 AM

I'm so upset, I just burned all my Christian Bale DVDs.

I also deleted the scores to both his Batman movies off my iTunes, because they remind me of him.

Good for you, meg. You have a right to express yourself.

transmogrifier

02-03-2009, 06:23 AM

I'm so upset, I just burned all my Christian Bale DVDs.

I also deleted the scores to both his Batman movies off my iTunes, because they remind me of him.

I think you should do all that stuff anyway.

Amnesiac

02-03-2009, 07:32 AM

Can any Herzog fans offer me some advice?

I'm torn between two sets: Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski: A Film Legacy (http://www.amazon.com/Werner-Herzog-Klaus-Kinski-Legacy/dp/B00005YKXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233649816&sr=1-1) and Werner Herzog Collection (http://www.amazon.com/Werner-Herzog-Collection-Bruno-S/dp/B0001ZX0F6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233649816&sr=1-2).

I can only manage to grab one at the moment (and I haven't seen any Herzog outside of Rescue Dawn) — which should I grab?

Derek

02-03-2009, 07:37 AM

transmogrifier

02-03-2009, 07:48 AM

Bale has been remixed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48&eurl=http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/) already

Scar

02-03-2009, 11:40 AM

Bale has been remixed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48&eurl=http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/) already

I'm thinking its an American Psycho day after a bit of job hunting.

Kurosawa Fan

02-03-2009, 12:29 PM

I'm sure it's been talked to death, but that Bale audio clip is just embarrassing. I don't think he could come off looking any worse. What a douche.

EvilShoe

02-03-2009, 12:37 PM

I'm sure it's been talked to death, but that Bale audio clip is just embarrassing. I don't think he could come off looking any worse. What a douche.
Terminator 4 is serious business.

Kurosawa Fan

02-03-2009, 01:06 PM

Terminator 4 is serious business.

Hmm. A fair point.

Ezee E

02-03-2009, 01:18 PM

.............
It's okay. He loved Bale before, he has an extra copy in case this would happen.

megladon8

02-03-2009, 01:27 PM

From another forum...

McG at 1:56. ahahahaha :D Cute. (http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&vid=9c18c185-1572-413c-b618-8f739178c11b)

megladon8

02-03-2009, 01:35 PM

They're realy grasping at straws with the red banner at the top of this DVD cover...

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6304/bledr1artworkpicen5.jpg

Dukefrukem

02-03-2009, 02:07 PM

McG is the reason Christian Bale shouldn't get so worked up over the movie he's making.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0629334/

It's a person? What kind of name is that?

Dukefrukem

02-03-2009, 02:08 PM

I'm sure it's been talked to death, but that Bale audio clip is just embarrassing. I don't think he could come off looking any worse. What a douche.

In his defense, what if it was a good performance he was in the middle of? :lol:

Kurosawa Fan

02-03-2009, 02:13 PM

From another forum...

Ha. Nicely done.

megladon8

02-03-2009, 02:13 PM

In his defense, what if it was a good performance he was in the middle of? :lol:

That's not the point.

He's berating the guy for being unprofessional. Well then what the hell is Bale doing by having a screaming fit like that? I certainly wouldn't label that kind of behaviour "professional".

Yes, everyone has bad days. Yes, it's a high-stress job with lots of money on the line. But as someone said earlier, it's not Bale's money on the line. Regardless of how many takes they do, or how his performance comes about, he's getting paid.

Dukefrukem

02-03-2009, 02:17 PM

That's not the point.

He's berating the guy for being unprofessional. Well then what the hell is Bale doing by having a screaming fit like that? I certainly wouldn't label that kind of behaviour "professional".

Yes, everyone has bad days. Yes, it's a high-stress job with lots of money on the line. But as someone said earlier, it's not Bale's money on the line. Regardless of how many takes they do, or how his performance comes about, he's getting paid.

Thats true, and pretty much the bottom line. Professionalism.

I haven't been this disappointed since that time Mel Gibson got arrested.

Kurosawa Fan

02-03-2009, 02:23 PM

It's also one thing to blow up and have an incident like that, but when the guy is apologizing and saying he made a mistake and you go on berating him for three minutes, it's not just having a bad day anymore, it's gone beyond that. Any sensible person who was just having a bad day would have stopped themselves, taken a deep breath, and apologized for going off the handle. It wouldn't have been a three minute tirade amidst apologizing from the guy who made the mistake.