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    Quote Quoting Rowland (view post)
    I just recently watched Creep, mostly on account of how much I liked writer/director Christopher Smith's Black Death (Severance was okay too). It's no Descent, but as far as debut horror features are concerned, it's a commendable effort that reminded me of Gary Sherman's Raw Meat.

    Hey! Black Death is the one with Sean Bean right? It was good??

    Was it a horror or just a dark period piece?

    I remember reading some positive Amazon and IMDb reviews but I'd hardly trust those. If you're saying it's good, though, I Must check it out - you've rarely steered me wrong!
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    Chris Smith also made the intriguing and clever Triangle. Guy's good.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Hey! Black Death is the one with Sean Bean right? It was good??

    Was it a horror or just a dark period piece?

    I remember reading some positive Amazon and IMDb reviews but I'd hardly trust those. If you're saying it's good, though, I Must check it out - you've rarely steered me wrong!
    The critical response was pretty positive as well if I recall correctly, and it had fans around here. It's a dark period piece with horror trappings, with nods to a few horror classics that it could be considered spoilers to reveal. Give it a look, it's quite good.
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    Creep is to The Descent as restaurant hamburgers are to home-cooked steak.
    An undercooked-from-frozen hamburger, specifically.

    Also: My copy of Xtro had no audio. *sad face*

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    Completely agree, Duke. Roth is so overrated. He irritates me.

    Spun I'll post the youtube after work.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Completely agree, Duke. Roth is so overrated. He irritates me.

    Spun I'll post the youtube after work.
    Out of respect for number8, let's find a different way.

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    I liked Hostel quite a bit, but yeah ... Roth is better at making famous friends (Tarantino) and promoting himself than he is at making pictures. He's been in the business 10 years or so and has only directed three movies? On micro budgets?

    Also, has the window closed on touching Spun? Seems like it would be a less than special experience now that we know he doesn't have a working copy of X-Tro.

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    Quote Quoting Spun Lepton (view post)
    Out of respect for number8, let's find a different way.
    If you tiny URL the link, it's not technically posting piracy.
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    This is priceless. Siskel & Ebert review Xtro:

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nO66D07YvJs

    "Garbage is the operative word."

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    Don't waste your time with Birth of the Living Dead on Netflix. There's nothing that hasn't already been covered in the myriad of Living Dead documentaries. There's a portion devoted to showing the original Night of the Living Dead to a classroom of elementary school kids, where the kids then recite back things that happened in the movie. It's the perfect metaphor for the docu as a whole.

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    I agree about Roth - he's pretty piss-poor. He also comes across as an enormous douche-nozzle.
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    I know we shouldn't share illegal download stuff but is it piracy to watch it on youtube? I'll buy Xtro the second I find it.

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    I really wanted to like Roth - I still kinda do, actually - but he really hasn't done much. His heart/head are in the right place though, I think.

    His bit from Grindhouse was so memorable and fit so well that I doubt I'll ever be able to really bash him much. It might be too early to write him off, but he really needs to get moving.

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    Bidding on my VHS copy of Xtro will start at one million. Go.

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    Quote Quoting Mr. Pink (view post)
    I really wanted to like Roth - I still kinda do, actually - but he really hasn't done much. His heart/head are in the right place though, I think.

    His bit from Grindhouse was so memorable and fit so well that I doubt I'll ever be able to really bash him much. It might be too early to write him off, but he really needs to get moving.

    His love and enthusiasm for the hidden gems in the genre is admirable for sure, but I just find him so unlikable. He's like a Frat Douche who loves horror movies.

    That photograph of him lying naked with a dick the size of a cricket racket is very telling of his delusional self-image.
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    I like Roth's genuine enthusiasm for the genre, even if that doesn't always get him too far in his movies. Hostel is the only one of his three films so far that I thought succeeded. At the same time, there are too many interesting things happening in Cabin Fever and Hostel Part II for me to dismiss him entirely. And Thanksgiving is obviously amazing. I'm curious about The Green Inferno mostly in terms of its social awareness - I think Roth might fall into the same trap Deodato fell into with Cannibal Holocaust, where the effort to explore the mutual savagery of cannibals and the "civilized" ends up an unconvincing excuse for thriving in exploitation.

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    I found it pretty funny when Roth tried to blame the failure of Hostel Part II on illegal downloading.
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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    I'm curious about The Green Inferno mostly in terms of its social awareness - I think Roth might fall into the same trap Deodato fell into with Cannibal Holocaust, where the effort to explore the mutual savagery of cannibals and the "civilized" ends up an unconvincing excuse for thriving in exploitation.
    I got a strong feeling from the trailer that Inferno will be tonally similar to Hostel, and probably mimic its major plot turns too. Roth seems to write from the place of an ugly American living in a bubble. No doubt this movie will generate complaints from tribal councils & a few harsh letters from lefty organizations.

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    His love and enthusiasm for the hidden gems in the genre is admirable for sure, but I just find him so unlikable. He's like a Frat Douche who loves horror movies.
    ^ Thiiiiiiiiis.

    Didn't he also throw a tantrum on MySpace when Hostel II tanked? He posted some kind if "open letter" demanding that fans "support the genre."

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    ^ Thiiiiiiiiis.

    Didn't he also throw a tantrum on MySpace when Hostel II tanked? He posted some kind if "open letter" demanding that fans "support the genre."

    Yeah, and like I mentioned before, he blamed its box office bombing entirely on people downloading it illegally.
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    CH is just a bad movie overall. The animal deaths were unnecessary, but did not bother me. The movie was just a big old pile of bleagh.
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    I have a feeling that just like with the original Funny Games I'm going to see Cannibal Holocaust and then go "That's it? That's what everyone is making such a big fuss about?" Hype is sooo 1990s :P
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    Didn't see a mention anywhere, so: Night of the Creeps (86) and Carrie (76) are streaming on Netflix Instant now.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Didn't see a mention anywhere, so: Night of the Creeps (86) and Carrie (76) are streaming on Netflix Instant now.

    Two incredible classics.

    Night of the Creeps is one of the definitive "campy 80s fun" movies.

    It and Killer Klowns From Outer Space would make an awesome double feature.
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    Didn't see a mention anywhere, so: Night of the Creeps (86) and Carrie (76) are streaming on Netflix Instant now.
    I own both on DVD, but its still cool news regardless. Love both films.
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