Film Awards Talk - 2020

[Peng]

It's that time of the year again. Awards season starts this week:



Gotham winners:

Best Feature: Marriage Story

Best Documentary: American Factory

Bingham Ray Breakthrough Director: Laure de Clermont-Tonnerre, The Mustang

Best Actor: Adam Driver, Marriage Story

Best Actress: Awkwafina, The Farewell

Best Breakthrough Actor: Taylor Russell, Waves

Best Screenplay: Noah Baumbach, Marriage Story

Breakthrough Series – Long Form: When They See Us (Netflix)

Breakthrough Series – Short Form: PEN15 (Hulu)

Audience Award: Marriage Story



National Board of Review:

Best Film: THE IRISHMAN
Best Director: Quentin Tarantino, ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
Best Actor: Adam Sandler, UNCUT GEMS
Best Actress: Renée Zellweger, JUDY
Best Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt, ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates, RICHARD JEWELL
Best Original Screenplay: Josh Safdie, Benny Safdie, Ronald Bronstein, UNCUT GEMS
Best Adapted Screenplay: Steven Zaillian, THE IRISHMAN
Breakthrough Performance: Paul Walter Hauser, RICHARD JEWELL
Best Directorial Debut: Melina Matsoukas, QUEEN & SLIM
Best Animated Feature: HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD
Best Foreign Language Film: PARASITE
Best Documentary: MAIDEN
Best Ensemble: KNIVES OUT
Outstanding Achievement in Cinematography: Roger Deakins, 1917
NBR Icon Award: Martin Scorsese, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino
NBR Freedom of Expression Award: FOR SAMA
NBR Freedom of Expression Award: JUST MERCY

Top Films (in alphabetical order)

1917
Dolemite is My Name
Ford v Ferrari
Jojo Rabbit
Knives Out
Marriage Story
Once Upon a Time…in Hollywood
Richard Jewell
Uncut Gems
Waves

Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order)

Atlantics
Invisible Life
Pain and Glory
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Transit

Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order)

American Factory
Apollo 11
The Black Godfather
Rolling Thunder Revue: A Bob Dylan Story by Martin Scorsese
Wrestle

Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order)

The Farewell
Give Me Liberty
A Hidden Life
Judy
The Last Black Man in San Francisco
Midsommar
The Nightingale
The Peanut Butter Falcon
The Souvenir
Wild Rose



AFI Top 10:

Films

The Farewell
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Knives Out
Little Women
Marriage Story
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Richard Jewell

Special Award to Parasite


TV Shows

Chernobyl (HBO)
The Crown (Netflix)
Fosse/Verdon (FX)
Game of Thrones (HBO)
Pose (FX)
Succession (HBO)
Unbelievable (Netflix)
Veep (HBO)
Watchmen (HBO)
When They See Us (Netflix)

[Peng]

And from the first major critics group this year, New York Film Critics Circle. Seem to be a good year for foreign films and The Irishman for them.

NYFCC

Best Film: The Irishman

Best Director: Safdie brothers, Uncut Gems

Best Actor: Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory

Best Actress: Lupita Nyong'o, Us

Best Supporting Actor: Joe Pesci, The Irishman

Best Supporting Actress: Laura Dern for Marriage Story and Little Women

Best Screenplay: Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Best Cinematography: Claire Mathon, Portrait of a Lady on Fire

Best Animated Film: I Lost My Body

Best Non-Fiction Film: Honeyland

Best Foreign Language Film: Parasite

Best First Film: Atlantics

Special Awards to Indie Collect and Randy Newman

[Ezee E]

Game of Thrones on a top ten for the year must mean there was some seriously shitty TV out there.

[Peng]

Game of Thrones on a top ten for the year must mean there was some seriously shitty TV out there.

Final season of the most watched show ever must be hard for AFI not to AFI lol. Even great, buzzy shows that could have made it in, like Fleabag or Barry, probably would not have got in at the expense of GoT.

[Peng]

Another major critics group award. BeHope these critics will Nyong'o's nomination into existence.

LAFCA

Best Picture: Parasite (RU: The Irishman)

Best Director: Bong Joon-ho, Parasite (RU: Martin Scorsese, The Irishman)

Best Animation: I Lost My Body (RU: Toy Story 4)
Best Documentary/Nonfiction Film: American Factory (RU: Apollo 11)
Best Foreign-Language Film: Pain and Glory (RU: Portrait of a Lady on Fire)

Best Actor: Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory (RU: Adam Driver, Marriage Story)
Best Actress: Mary Kay Place, Diane (RU: Lupita Nyong'o, Us)
Best Supporting Actor: Song Kang-ho, Parasite (RU: Joe Pesci, The Irishman)
Best Supporting Actress: Jennifer Lopez, Hustlers (RU: Zhao Shuzhen, The Farewell)

Best Screenplay: Noah Baumbach, Marriage Story (RU: Bong Joon-ho and Han Jin-won, Parasite)

Best Cinematography: Claire Mathon for Portrait of a Lady on Fire and Atlantics (RU: Roger Deakins, 1917)
Best Editing: Todd Douglas Miller, Apollo 11 (RU: Ronald Bronstein and Benny Safdie, Uncut Gems)
Best Music/Score: Dan Levy, I Lost My Body (RU: Thomas Newman, 1917)
Best Production Design: Barbara Ling, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (RU: Ha Jun Lee, Parasite)

Douglas Edwards Experimental Film: Ja'Tovia Gary's The Giverny Document
New Generation: Joe Talbot, Jimmie Fails and Jonathan Majors for The Last Black Man in San Francisco

[Peng]

And the Golden Globes nominations, just announced:

BEST MOTION PICTURE – DRAMA
“1917”
“Irishman”
“Joker”
“Marriage Story”
“The Two Popes”

BEST MOTION PICTURE – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
“Dolemite is my Name”
“Jojo Rabbit”
“Knives Out”
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
“Rocketman”

BEST DIRECTOR
Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”
Sam Mendes, “1917”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
Todd Phillips, “Joker”

BEST ACTOR – DRAMA
Christian Bale, “Ford v. Ferrari”
Antonio Banderas, “Pain and Glory”
Adam Driver, “Marriage Story”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Joker”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Two Popes”

BEST ACTRESS – DRAMA
Cynthio Erivo, “Harriet”
Scarlett Johansson, “Marriage Story”
Soarise Ronana, “Little Women”
Charlize Theron, “Bombshell”
Renee Zellweger, “Judy”

BEST ACTOR – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
Daniel Craig (“Knives Out”)
Roman Griffin Davis (“Jojo Rabbit”)
Leonardo DiCaprio (“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”)
Taron Egerton (“Rocketman”)
Eddie Murphy (“Dolemite Is My Name”)

BEST ACTRESS – MUSICAL OR COMEDY
Awkwafina, “The Farewell”
Ana de Armas, “Knives Out”
Beanie Feldstein, “Booksmart”
Emma Thompson, “Late Night”
Cate Blanchett, “Where’d You Go Bernadette”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Hanks, “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood”
Al Pacino, “The Irishman”
Joe Pesci, “The Irishman”
Brad Pitt, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
Anthony Hopkins, “The Two Popes”


BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Annette Benning, “The Report”
Margot Robbie, “Bombshell”
Jennifer Lopez, “Hustlers”
Kathy Bates, “Richard Jewell”
Laura Dern, “Marriage Stor”

BEST SCREENPLAY
“Marriage Story”
“Parasite”
“The Two Popes”
“Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”
“The Irishman”

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
“Motherless Brooklyn”
“Little Women”
“Joker”
“1917”
“Marriage Story”

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Beautiful Ghosts” – CATS
“I’m Gonna Love Me Again” – Rocketman
“Into the Unknown” – Frozen 2
“Spirit” – The Lion King
“Stand Up” – Harriet

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
“Frozen 2”
“The Lion King”
“Missing Link”
“Toy Story 4”
“How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World”

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
“The Farewell”
“Les Misérables”
“Pain and Glory”
“Parasite”
“Portrait of a Lady on Fire”



TV Noms:


BEST TELEVISION SERIES – DRAMA
“Big Little Lies”
“The Crown”
“Killing Even”
“The Morning Show”
“Succession”

BEST TELEVISION SERIES – COMEDY
“Barry”
“Fleabag”
“The Kominsky Method”
“The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”
“The Politician”

MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM
“Catch-22”
“Chernobyl”
“Fosse/Verdon”
“The Loudest Voice”
“Unbelievable”

BEST ACTOR TV SERIES – DRAMA
Brian Cox, “Succession”
Kit Harington, “Game of Thrones”
Rami Malek, “Mr. Robor”
Tobias Menzies, “The Crown”
Billy Porter, “Pose”

BEST ACTRESS TV SERIES – DRAMA
Jennifer Aniston, “The Morning Show”
Jodi Comer, “Killing Eve”
Nicole Kidman, “Big Little Lies”
Reese Witherspoon, “The Morning Show”
Olivia Colman, “The Crown”

BEST ACTOR TV SERIES – COMEDY
Ben Platt, “The Politician”
Paul Rudd, “Living With Yourself”
Rami Yousef, “Rami”
Bill Hader, “Barry”
Michael Douglas, “The Kominsky Method”

BEST ACTRESS TV SERIES – COMEDY
Christina Applegate, “Dead to Me”
Phoebe Waller-Bridge, “Fleabag”
Natasha Lyonne, “Russian Doll”
Kirsten Dunst, “On Becoming a God in Central Florida”
Rachel Brosnahan, “Marvelous Mrs. Maisel”

BEST ACTOR – MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM
Chris Abbott, “Catch 22”
Sacha Baron Cohen, “The Spy”
Russell Crowe, “The Loudest Voice”
Jared Harris, “Chernobyl”
Sam Rockwell, “Fosse/Verdon”

BEST ACTRESS – MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM
Michelle Williams, “Fosse/Verdon”
Helen Mirren, “Catherine the Great”
Merritt Wever, “Unbelievable”
Kaitlyn Dever, “Unbelievable”
Joey King, “The Act”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR – SERIES, MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM
Alan Arkin, “Kominsky Method”
Kieran Culkin, “Succession”
Andrew Scott, “Fleabag”
Stellan SkarsgÃ¥rd, “Chernobyl”
Henry Winkler, “Barry”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS – SERIES, MINISERIES OR TELEVISION FILM
Meryl Streep, “Big Little Lies”
Helena Bonham Carter, “The Crown”
Emily Watson, “Chernobyl”
Patricia Arquette, “The Act”
Toni Collette, “Unbelievable”

[Peng]

I know it's technically correct, but The Lion King being nominated in Best Animated Feature is funny, especially when...

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[baby doll]

I'm all for awards season gradually morphing into a theoretical debate about the ontology of cinema.

[Ezee E]

Wonder who will be first to merge TV and Film together for one award.

[Ivan Drago]

Wonder who will be first to merge TV and Film together for one award.

What's your avatar from? I love it. :D

[TGM]

So I guess this means Endgame won’t be taken seriously this awards season after all. Bit of a shame. :\

[Ivan Drago]

Also, does The Farewell qualify for Best International Feature Film at the Oscars this year, too?

[Ezee E]

What's your avatar from? I love it. :D

I know it was a piece at the NYC MoMA many years ago, and has definitely stuck with me.

As far as the International Film goes, I don't think The Farewell qualifies:

"The category name change does not change any existing category rules, the submission process, or eligibility requirements. An international feature film is defined as a feature-length motion picture produced outside the United States of America with a predominantly non-English dialogue track. "

And these are the qualifying movies:

Albania, “The Delegation,” Bujar Alimani, director;
Algeria, “Papicha,” Mounia Meddour, director;
Argentina, “Heroic Losers,” Sebastián Borensztein, director;
Armenia, “Lengthy Night,” Edgar Baghdasaryan, director;
Australia, “Buoyancy,” Rodd Rathjen, director;
Austria, “Joy,” Sudabeh Mortezai, director;
Bangladesh, “Alpha,” Nasiruddin Yousuff, director;
Belarus, “Debut,” Anastasiya Miroshnichenko, director;
Belgium, “Our Mothers,” César DÃ*az, director;
Bolivia, “I Miss You,” Rodrigo Bellott, director;
Bosnia and Herzegovina, “The Son,” Ines Tanovic, director;
Brazil, “Invisible Life,” Karim Aïnouz, director;
Bulgaria, “Ã�ga,” Milko Lazarov, director;
Cambodia, “In the Life of Music,” Caylee So, Sok Visal, directors;
Canada, “Antigone,” Sophie Deraspe, director;
Chile, “Spider,” Andrés Wood, director;
China, “Ne Zha,” Yu Yang, director;
Colombia, “Monos,” Alejandro Landes, director;
Costa Rica, “The Awakening of the Ants,” Antonella Sudasassi Furniss, director;
Croatia, “Mali,” Antonio Nuic, director;
Cuba, “A Translator,” Rodrigo Barriuso, Sebastián Barriuso, directors;
Czech Republic, “The Painted Bird,” Václav Marhoul, director;
Denmark, “Queen of Hearts,” May el-Toukhy, director;
Dominican Republic, “The Projectionist,” José MarÃ*a Cabral, director;
Ecuador, “The Longest Night,” Gabriela Calvache, director;
Egypt, “Poisonous Roses,” Ahmed Fawzi Saleh, director;
Estonia, “Truth and Justice,” Tanel Toom, director;
Ethiopia, “Running against the Wind,” Jan Philipp Weyl, director;
Finland, “Stupid Young Heart,” Selma Vilhunen, director;
France, “Les Misérables,” Ladj Ly, director;
Georgia, “Shindisi,” Dimitri Tsintsadze, director;
Germany, “System Crasher,” Nora Fingscheidt, director;
Ghana, “Azali,” Kwabena Gyansah, director;
Greece, “When Tomatoes Met Wagner,” Marianna Economou, director;
Honduras, “Blood, Passion, and Coffee,” Carlos Membreño, director;
Hong Kong, “The White Storm 2 Drug Lords,” Herman Yau, director;
Hungary, “Those Who Remained,” Barnabás Tóth, director;
Iceland, “A White, White Day,” Hlynur Pálmason, director;
India, “Gully Boy,” Zoya Akhtar, director;
Indonesia, “Memories of My Body,” Garin Nugroho, director;
Iran, “Finding Farideh,” Azadeh Moussavi, Kourosh Ataee, directors;
Ireland, “Gaza,” Garry Keane, Andrew McConnell, directors;
Israel, “Incitement,” Yaron Zilberman, director;
Italy, “The Traitor,” Marco Bellocchio, director;
Japan, “Weathering with You,” Makoto Shinkai, director;
Kazakhstan, “Kazakh Khanate. The Golden Throne,” Rustem Abdrashov, director;
Kenya, “Subira,” Ravneet Singh (Sippy) Chadha, director;
Kosovo, “Zana,” Antoneta Kastrati, director;
Kyrgyzstan, “Aurora,” Bekzat Pirmatov, director;
Latvia, “The Mover,” Davis Simanis, director;
Lebanon, “1982,” Oualid Mouaness, director;
Lithuania, “Bridges of Time,” Audrius Stonys, Kristine Briede, directors;
Luxembourg, “Tel Aviv on Fire,” Sameh Zoabi, director;
Malaysia, “M for Malaysia,” Dian Lee, Ineza Roussille, directors;
Mexico, “The Chambermaid,” Lila Avilés, director;
Mongolia, “The Steed,” Erdenebileg Ganbold, director;
Montenegro, “Neverending Past,” Andro Martinović, director;
Morocco, “Adam,” Maryam Touzani, director;
Nepal, “Bulbul,” Binod Paudel, director;
Netherlands, “Instinct,” Halina Reijn, director;
Nigeria, “Lionheart,” Genevieve Nnaji, director;
North Macedonia, “Honeyland,” Ljubo Stefanov, Tamara Kotevska, directors;
Norway, “Out Stealing Horses,” Hans Petter Moland, director;
Pakistan, “Laal Kabootar,” Kamal Khan, director;
Palestine, “It Must Be Heaven,” Elia Suleiman, director;
Panama, “Everybody Changes,” Arturo Montenegro, director;
Peru, “Retablo,” Alvaro Delgado Aparicio, director;
Philippines, “Verdict,” Raymund Ribay Gutierrez, director;
Poland, “Corpus Christi,” Jan Komasa, director;
Portugal, “The Domain,” Tiago Guedes, director;
Romania, “The Whistlers,” Corneliu Porumboiu, director;
Russia, “Beanpole,” Kantemir Balagov, director;
Saudi Arabia, “The Perfect Candidate,” Haifaa Al Mansour, director;
Senegal, “Atlantics,” Mati Diop, director;
Serbia, “King Petar the First,” Petar Ristovski, director;
Singapore, “A Land Imagined,” Yeo Siew Hua, director;
Slovakia, “Let There Be Light,” Marko Skop, director;
Slovenia, “History of Love,” Sonja Prosenc, director;
South Africa, “Knuckle City,” Jahmil X.T. Qubeka, director;
South Korea, “Parasite,” Bong Joon Ho, director;
Spain, “Pain and Glory,” Pedro Almodóvar, director;
Sweden, “And Then We Danced,” Levan Akin, director;
Switzerland, “Wolkenbruch’s Wondrous Journey into the Arms of a Shiksa,” Michael Steiner, director;
Taiwan, “Dear Ex,” Mag Hsu, Chih-Yen Hsu, directors;
Thailand, “Krasue: Inhuman Kiss,” Sitisiri Mongkolsiri, director;
Tunisia, “Dear Son,” Mohamed Ben Attia, director;
Turkey, “Commitment Asli,” Semih Kaplanoglu, director;
Ukraine, “Homeward,” Nariman Aliev, director;
United Kingdom, “The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind,” Chiwetel Ejiofor, director;
Uruguay, “The Moneychanger,” Federico Veiroj, director;
Uzbekistan, “Hot Bread,” Umid Khamdamov, director;
Venezuela, “Being Impossible,” Patricia Ortega, director;
Vietnam, “Furie,” Le Van Kiet, director.

ANd I would place bets on the five coming from this:

Colombia, “Monos,” Alejandro Landes, director;

France, “Les Misérables,” Ladj Ly, director;


Italy, “The Traitor,” Marco Bellocchio, director;

Mexico, “The Chambermaid,” Lila Avilés, director;
Russia, “Beanpole,” Kantemir Balagov, director;

Senegal, “Atlantics,” Mati Diop, director;

South Korea, “Parasite,” Bong Joon Ho, director;

Spain, “Pain and Glory,” Pedro Almodóvar, director;


[Irish]

"The Farewell" was produced and distributed by American companies, so Ezee is right. It's not eligible.

(Even if it were, a host country would need to submit it for consideration ... and who would that be? China has its own movies to promote.)

[baby doll]

So I guess this means Endgame won’t be taken seriously this awards season after all. Bit of a shame. :\Yeah, that one really seemed to fly under the radar. If only the distributor had given it a bigger awards push, it could've broken out of the MCU ghetto and become a genuine crossover hit.

[origami_mustache]

anyone see Monos? I was intrigued by the trailer.

[Lazlo]

anyone see Monos? I was intrigued by the trailer.

I did. It's great!

[Ivan Drago]

I did. It's great!

I did, too. I loved it!

[TGM]

I did. It's great!

Go share your thoughts in the Frozen II thread. :p

[Lazlo]

Go share your thoughts in the Frozen II thread. :p

Oh, shit. Done. Hadn't checked back.

[TGM]

Awesome!

And I see now that you’ve seen the movie too, Ivan. Go share. ;)

[Peng]

Golden Globes

Film

Drama: 1917
Drama Actor: Joaquin Phoenix, Joker
Drama Actress: Renée Zellweger, Judy

Comedy/Musical: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Comedy/Musical Actor: Taron Egerton, Rocketman
Comedy/Musical Actress: Awkwafina, The Farewell

Supporting Actor: Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Supporting Actress: Laura Dern, Marriage Story

Director: Sam Mendes, 1917
Screenplay: Quentin Tarantino, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Animated Film: Missing Link
Foreign Language Film: Parasite (South Korea)

Original Score: Hildur Guðnadóttir, Joker
Original Song: "(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" from Rocketman (Elton John and Bernie Taupin)


Television

Drama Series: Succession (HBO)
Drama Actor: Brian Cox, Succession
Drama Actress: Olivia Colman, The Crown

Comedy Series: Fleabag (Amazon)
Comedy Actor: Ramy Youssef, Ramy
Comedy Actress: Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Fleabag

TV Movie/Limited Series: Chernobyl (HBO)
TV Movie/Limited Actor: Russell Crowe, The Loudest Voice
TV Movie/Limited Actress: Michelle Williams, Fosse/Verdon

Supporting Actor: Stellan Skarsgård, Chernobyl
Supporting Actress: Patricia Arquette, The Act

[Irish]

I had no idea there was a contingent of "1917" superfans wandering around out there.

[MadMan]

1917 comes out in wide release Friday. I'm guessing the awards buzz will help it out. I can't recall the last thing Sam Mendes did besides James Bond movies.

[Pop Trash]

Ricky Gervais was brutal. Esp. love the dig on Apple's sweatshop China manufacturing ... with Apple CEO Tim Cook sitting right there in the audience. Loved it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCNdTLHZAeo&t=301s

[Pop Trash]

1917 comes out in wide release Friday. I'm guessing the awards buzz will help it out. I can't recall the last thing Sam Mendes did besides James Bond movies.

Away We Go (which I like) and Revolutionary Road (which I don't).

[Dukefrukem]

Love that Skarsgård got it for Chernobyl. Well deserved.

[Grouchy]

All in all, I'm quite pleased with the awards. Sure, there are some duds like Rocketman, but I never expected Missing Link to win its category or Pitt to get supporting - those were nice surprises. And I really, really need to see Parasite before everyone starts spoiling it for me.

[Dukefrukem]

And I really, really need to see Parasite before everyone starts spoiling it for me.

Me too!

[Peng]

Me too!

Considering all those recent "poor people" jokes, I'm both intrigued and terrified by your impending reactions lol.

[Mal]

Shuzhen Zhao and Alfre Woodard getting screwed all awards season.

[Dukefrukem]

Considering all those recent "poor people" jokes, I'm both intrigued and terrified by your impending reactions lol.

Don't understand this post but I'm sure I will after I see the movie.

[Ezee E]

Shuzhen Zhao and Alfre Woodard getting screwed all awards season.

Whatever studio handled Clemency really dropped the ball.

I have no idea what A24 is doing on their end for awards. It wouldn't surprise me if Uncut Gems/Farewell/Lighthouse all end up with zero nominations. They had no idea what to do with Waves.

[Irish]

B A F T A
- - - - -

Best Film
1917
The Irishman
Joker
Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood
Parasite

Outstanding British Film
1917
Bait
For Sama
Rocketman
Sorry We Missed You
The Two Popes

Outstanding Debut By A British Writer, Director Or Producer
Bait: Mark Jenkin (Writer/Director), Kate Byers, Linn Waite (Producers)
For Sama: Waad Al-Kateab (Director/Producer), Edward Watts (Director)
Maiden: Alex Holmes (Director)
Only You: Harry Wootliff (Writer/Director)
Retablo: �lvaro Delgado-Aparicio (Writer/Director)*

Film Not In The English Language
The Farewell
For Sama
Pain And Glory
Parasite
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire

Documentary
American Factory
Apollo 11
Diego Maradona
For Sama
The Great Hack

Animated Film
Frozen 2
Klaus
A Shaun The Sheep Movie: Farmageddon
Toy Story 4

Director
1917: Sam Mendes
The Irishman: Martin Scorsese
Joker: Todd Phillips
Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood: Quentin Tarantino
Parasite: Bong Joon-Ho

Original Screenplay
Booksmart: Susanna Fogel, Emily Halpern, Sarah Haskins, Katie Silberman
Knives Out: Rian Johnson
Marriage Story: Noah Baumbach
Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood: Quentin Tarantino
Parasite: Han Jin Won, Bong Joon-Ho,

Adapted Screenplay
The Irishman: Steven Zaillian
Jojo Rabbit: Taika Waititi
Joker: Todd Phillips, Scott Silver
Little Women: Greta Gerwig
The Two Popes: Anthony McCarten

Leading Actress
Jessie Buckley: Wild Rose
Scarlett Johansson: Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan: Little Women
Charlize Theron: Bombshell
Renée Zellweger: Judy

Leading Actor
Leonardo DiCaprio: Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood
Adam Driver: Marriage Story
Taron Egerton: Rocketman
Joaquin Phoenix: Joker
Jonathan Pryce: The Two Popes

[Irish]

D G A
- - - - -

Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Feature Film for 2019
Bong Joon Ho, “Parasite”
Sam Mendes, “1917”
Martin Scorsese, “The Irishman”
Quentin Tarantino, “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
Taika Waititi, “Jojo Rabbit”

Outstanding Directorial Achievement of a First-Time Feature Film Director for 2019
Mati Diop, “Atlantics”
Alma Har’el, “Honey Boy”
Melina Matsoukas, “Queen & Slim”
Joe Talbot, “The Last Black Man in San Francisco”
Tyler Nilson and Michael Schwartz, “The Peanut Butter Falcon”


P G A
- - - - -

The Darryl F. Zanuck Award for Outstanding Producer of Theatrical Motion Pictures

“1917”
Producers: Sam Mendes, Pippa Harris, Jayne‐Ann Tenggren, Callum McDougall

“Ford v Ferrari “
Producers: Peter Chernin & Jenno Topping, James Mangold

“The Irishman”
Producers: Jane Rosenthal & Robert De Niro, Emma Tillinger Koskoff & Martin Scorsese

“Jojo Rabbit”
Producers: Carthew Neal, Taika Waititi

“Joker”
Producers: Todd Phillips & Bradley Cooper, Emma Tillinger Koskoff

“Knives Out”
Producers: Rian Johnson, Ram Bergman

“Little Women”
Producer: Amy Pascal

“Marriage Story”
Producers: Noah Baumbach, David Heyman

“Once Upon a Time in… Hollywood”
Producers: David Heyman, Shannon McIntosh, Quentin Tarantino

“Parasite”
Producers: Kwak Sin Ae, Bong Joon Ho

[Peng]

With how consistently well it has been doing across all awards bodies and guilds, I feel the Best Picture is for OUATIH's to lose.

[Ezee E]

With how consistently well it has been doing across all awards bodies and guilds, I feel the Best Picture is for OUATIH's to lose.

Agreed. I've said it since August. It has the perfect pedigree for Oscars. A movie about Hollywood, beloved director, hits the tech awards.

[Pop Trash]

Agreed. I've said it since August. It has the perfect pedigree for Oscars. A movie about Hollywood, beloved director, hits the tech awards.

It's also very much an actor's movie and actors make up the bulk of the Academy. Celebrating (and eulogizing) the star wattage that dominated the 20th Century box office, and has arguably been on life support in the 21st Century (replaced by the IP pedigree of franchise movies). You could say the same thing about The Irishman, but I think the length and the fact that it's Netflix might hurt it in the long run. It also might not be as popular w/ industry types as w/ critics (Joker might be almost as popular w/ industry types). OUATIH seems to be mostly beloved by the biggest voting group in the Academy (boomers). Even my dad loved it and he usually avoids Tarantino movies.

[baby doll]

Before y'all get too excited, just remember: Even if Tarantino's film wins best picture, he's still gonna lose best director to Sam fuckin' Mendes. Who already has a best director trophy. For American Beauty.

[transmogrifier]

Parasite for the mini-sweep: Picture, Director, Screenplay.

One can dream.

[MadMan]

Away We Go (which I like) and Revolutionary Road (which I don't).

I didn't see either of those so maybe that's why I forgot about them.

[MadMan]

Whatever studio handled Clemency really dropped the ball.

I have no idea what A24 is doing on their end for awards. It wouldn't surprise me if Uncut Gems/Farewell/Lighthouse all end up with zero nominations. They had no idea what to do with Waves.

I am surprised they are not pushing for Dafoe or Sandler to get acting noms.

[MadMan]

Before y'all get too excited, just remember: Even if Tarantino's film wins best picture, he's still gonna lose best director to Sam fuckin' Mendes. Who already has a best director trophy. For American Beauty.

I don't see Hollywood winning BP, either. However I agree that QT is not winning director.

[Irish]

I don't think Tarantino will win.

"Once Upon a Time..." might be a movie about Hollywood but it's also another QT celebration of trash, and an R-rated film with an insanely violent ending. (There have been a slew of R-rated winners in the last 2 decades, but none of them have been nearly as violent as OUATIH.)

Plus, he's said some aggressively petty shit over the years, some of it on stage at award shows, and the Academy has a loooooong memory.

[MadMan]

I was going to go off of QT being a huge annoying nerd, but what Irish said also makes sense.

[Peng]

Parasite for the mini-sweep: Picture, Director, Screenplay.

One can dream.

Definitely the threatening underdog, per its very surprising nomination for SAG's best ensemble.

[Ezee E]

I think Bong Joon-Ho wins Director and Tarantino gets his 3rd (?) screenplay award.

[baby doll]

I think Bong Joon-Ho wins DirectorDon't underestimate the Academy's love of tracking shots stitched together in post to look like very long takes (see Gravity and Birdman). The only thing going against Mendes' favour is that he's not a Mexican citizen and therefore giving him a trophy can't be interpreted by the media as some kind of political statement.

[Pop Trash]

Plus, he's said some aggressively petty shit over the years, some of it on stage at award shows, and the Academy has a loooooong memory.

Such as?

[Pop Trash]

OUATIH might get through the tier system. Then again 1917 might be a safer bet for that (I haven't seen it). OUATIH seems like the type of movie that will get on a lot of top choice ballots but will also not get on any of them at all.

[Ezee E]

Such as?

Not sure myself. He won screenplay in 2013, and Hateful Eight still managed to get some noms (and a Morricone win) despite being lower-loved Tarantino.

[Ezee E]

Can't wait for 1917 btw, but with it being war-focused and with only men in it, I think it goes the way of Dunkirk.

[Irish]

The first time QT took to the Academy stage, he thanked no one and he behaved as if the award he'd just won wasn't good enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkA3AoD-0oQ

He implied DeVernay's "Selma" was a made-for-tv movie:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/06/quentin-tarantino-film-maverick-police-critic-delights-in-controversy

He complained Disney was going out of their way to fuck him:
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/12/16/quentin-tarantino-peeved-about-star-wars-the-force-awakens

He described movie composers as "that ghetto":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnVw8T2TRA4

He implied Bigelow won her award because she's a woman, and talked shit about Mark Boals:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/09/quentin-tarantino-best-director-award

He publicly criticized the Academy (along with Scorsese, Lee, and others):
https://slate.com/culture/2019/02/oscars-academy-open-letter-tarantino-lee-scorsese-deakins.html

Tarantino might want Best Pic or Best Director, but over the years he's second guessed & directly insulted the people who vote for those awards.

[Dukefrukem]

Well Disney was going out of their way to fuck him.

I remember him talking about it on Howard Stern.

[Irish]

Well Disney was going out of their way to fuck him.

I remember him talking about it on Howard Stern.

If you want an industry to give you a major accolade, you don't criticize that industry in the newspapers.

I mean, on a couple of those items I agree with Tarantino. But whether he's right is sorta besides the point.

[Wryan]

If you want an industry to give you a major accolade, you don't criticize that industry in the newspapers.

I mean, on a couple of those items I agree with Tarantino. But whether he's right is sorta besides the point.

Maverick.

[Irish]

Maverick.

https://i.imgur.com/KpqGxEX.jpg?1

[TGM]

1214996798756073473

[Ezee E]

Obviously the Oscars are still a huge ratings hit, but I wonder what the show's going to do to adjust to times. Seems like they need to alter something over the next few years or it will be at risk.

[Peng]

Yeah I was thinking on Parasite taking Best Director and OUATIH taking Best Picture, then 1917 seems to be coming on big now for the former category (at the very least). Still hoping passion for Parasite leads to some awards surprises in some ways though; it sweeping would be sweet.

[Ivan Drago]

Here are the nominees for the film awards from the guild I'm a part of! :)

The Music City Film Critics’ Association 2019 Film Awards


BEST PICTURE

1917
APOLLO 11
JOJO RABBIT
JOKER
KNIVES OUT
LITTLE WOMEN
MARRIAGE STORY
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE
THE IRISHMAN

BEST DIRECTOR

Sam Mendes – 1917
Greta Gerwig – LITTLE WOMEN
Quentin Tarantino – ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
Bong Joon Ho - PARASITE
Martin Scorsese – THE IRISHMAN

BEST ACTOR

Eddie Murphy – DOLEMITE IS MY NAME
Joaquin Phoenix – JOKER
Adam Driver – MARRIAGE STORY
Taron Edgerton – ROCKETMAN
Adam Sandler – UNCUT GEMS

BEST ACTRESS

Charlize Theron – BOMBSHELL
Awkwafina – THE FAREWELL
Renee Zellweger – JUDY
Scarlett Johansson – MARRIAGE STORY
Lupita Nyong’o – US

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR

Shia LeBeouf – HONEY BOY
Al Pacino – THE IRISHMAN
Joe Pesci – THE IRISHMAN
Jonathan Majors – THE LAST BLACK MAN IN SAN FRANCISCO
Brad Pitt – ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Zhao Shuzhen – THE FAREWELL
Jennifer Lopez – HUSTLERS
Scarlett Johansson – JOJO RABBIT
Florence Pugh – LITTLE WOMEN
Laura Dern – MARRIAGE STORY

BEST YOUNG ACTOR

Jacob Tremblay – GOOD BOYS
Noah Jupe – HONEY BOY
Archie Yates – JOJO RABBIT
Roman Griffin Davis – JOJO RABBIT
Evan Alex – US

BEST YOUNG ACTRESS

Kyleigh Curran – DOCTOR SLEEP
Lucy Gallina – THE IRISHMAN
Sophia Lillis – IT: CHAPTER 2
Thomasin McKenzie – JOJO RABBIT
Julia Butters - ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
Shahadi Wright Joseph - US

BEST ACTING ENSEMBLE

AVENGERS: ENDGAME
KNIVES OUT
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE
THE IRISHMAN

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE

ABOMINABLE
FROZEN II
I LOST MY BODY
KLAUS
TOY STORY 4

BEST DOCUMENTARY

AMAZING GRACE
AMERICAN FACTORY
APOLLO 11
ONE CHILD NATION
TELL ME WHO I AM

BEST SCREENPLAY

JOJO RABBIT
KNIVES OUT
MARRIAGE STORY
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE

BEST SOUND

1917
APOLLO 11
FORD V. FERRARI
STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

BEST SONG

INTO THE UNKNOWN – FROZEN II
STAND UP – HARRIET
(I’M GONNA) LOVE ME AGAIN – ROCKETMAN
I CAN’T LET YOU THROW YOURSELF AWAY – TOY STORY 4
GLASGOW – WILD ROSE

BEST SCORE

1917
JOKER
MARRIAGE STORY
STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
US

BEST MUSIC FILM

AMAZING GRACE
BLINDED BY THE LIGHT
ROCKETMAN
WILD ROSE
YESTERDAY

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY

1917
JOKER
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE
THE LIGHTHOUSE

BEST EDITING

1917
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE
THE IRISHMAN

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN

1917
KNIVES OUT
LITTLE WOMEN
ONCE UPON A TIME…IN HOLLYWOOD
PARASITE

BEST COMEDY FILM

BOOKSMART
DOLEMITE IS MY NAME
JOJO RABBIT
KNIVES OUT
LONG SHOT

BEST HORROR FILM

DOCTOR SLEEP
IT: CHAPTER 2
MIDSOMMAR
READY OR NOT
US

BEST ACTION FILM

AVENGERS: ENDGAME
JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 3 – PARABELLUM
SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME
STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

ATLANTICS
PAIN AND GLORY
PARASITE
PORTRAIT OF A LADY ON FIRE

THE JIM RIDLEY AWARD
(For the film that best depicts Nashville)
BLUEBIRD
THE DEAD CENTER
PEANUT BUTTER FALCON
SAINT CLOUD HILL
WILD ROSE


THE MCFCA TOP 10 FILMS OF THE 2010’S
(In alphabetical order)

BIRDMAN
BOYHOOD
GET OUT
JOKER
LA LA LAND
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD
MOONLIGHT
ROMA
THE SOCIAL NETWORK
THE TREE OF LIFE

[Ezee E]

Nice work on the Apollo 11 love!

[MadMan]

I think 1917 will probably be the favorite. I could also see The Irishman winning as well.

[transmogrifier]

So did the MCFCA just give away their winner of this year’s Best Film with that decade list? Curious. (Plus, it’s a pretty mediocre film)

[Ivan Drago]

So did the MCFCA just give away their winner of this year’s Best Film with that decade list? Curious. (Plus, it’s a pretty mediocre film)

Nah, that was an entirely separate category. These noms came out two days before Christmas. Our voting period for the winners started on Tuesday this week and ended last night.

I most certainly hope [I]Joker[/B] doesn't win Best Film, though.

And thanks, E! Don't mean to brag, but I like to guess I had a hand in Apollo 11 getting noms because. . .let's just say it's going to be on my best 10 list this year. :)

[Irish]

Obviously the Oscars are still a huge ratings hit, but I wonder what the show's going to do to adjust to times. Seems like they need to alter something over the next few years or it will be at risk.

One thing that continues to surprise me is the unavailability of Oscar nominated films right up until the awards.

If the Academy wants people to be interested in the show, they should ensure more people can see the damn movies. I don't know how that would happen, especially because distribution is so screwed up right now, but it needs to happen.

Eg: The trades crowed about "Parasite's" big box office here, but the reality is: It played in less than 700 theaters in the U.S. Few people saw it.

[Ivan Drago]

Eg: The trades crowed about "Parasite's" big box office here, but the reality is: It played in less than 700 theaters in the U.S. Few people saw it.

It still made back twice its budget domestically. I call that a win.

Also, I'll post the winners of my guild's awards when they're announced tomorrow, if you guys would be interested. :)

[Ezee E]

One thing that continues to surprise me is the unavailability of Oscar nominated films right up until the awards.

If the Academy wants people to be interested in the show, they should ensure more people can see the damn movies. I don't know how that would happen, especially because distribution is so screwed up right now, but it needs to happen.

Eg: The trades crowed about "Parasite's" big box office here, but the reality is: It played in less than 700 theaters in the U.S. Few people saw it.

Same revenue as Cats!

[TGM]

It still made back twice its budget domestically. I call that a win.

Also, I'll post the winners of my guild's awards when they're announced tomorrow, if you guys would be interested. :)
Please do. :)

[Skitch]

Hell yeah, Ivan! I'm looking forward to Apollo 11, definitely gonna watch it soon.

[Ivan Drago]

Aaaaaaaaand the MCFCA's picks for the award winners this year:

Best Picture – 1917

Best Director – Sam Mendes - 1917

Best Actor – Joaquin Phoenix - Joker

Best Actress – Lupita Nyong’o - Us

Best Supporting Actor – Brad Pitt - Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood

Best Supporting Actress – Florence Pugh - Little Women

Best Young Actor – Roman Griffin Davis - Jojo Rabbit

Best Young Actress – Kyliegh Curran - Doctor Sleep

Best Acting Ensemble – Knives Out

Best Animated Feature – Toy Story 4

Best Documentary – Apollo 11

Best Screenplay – Bong Joon Ho, and Jin Won Han - Parasite

Best Sound – Oliver Tarney - 1917

Best Song – (I’m Gonna” Love Me Again), Elton John – Music, Bernie Taupin – Lyrics - Rocketman

Best Score – Hildur Guðnadóttir - Joker

Best Music Film – Giles Martin, Ian Neil - Rocketman

Best Cinematography – Roger Deakins – 1917

Best Editing – Lee Smith – 1917

Best Production Design – Barbara Ling – Once Upon A Time… In Hollywood

Best Comedy – Knives Out

Best Horror Film – Us

Best Action Film – Avengers: Endgame

Best Foreign Language Film – Parasite

The Jim Ridley Award (For the film that best depicts Nashville) – Wild Rose

[origami_mustache]

The first time QT took to the Academy stage, he thanked no one and he behaved as if the award he'd just won wasn't good enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkA3AoD-0oQ

He implied DeVernay's "Selma" was a made-for-tv movie:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/06/quentin-tarantino-film-maverick-police-critic-delights-in-controversy

He complained Disney was going out of their way to fuck him:
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/12/16/quentin-tarantino-peeved-about-star-wars-the-force-awakens

He described movie composers as "that ghetto":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnVw8T2TRA4

He implied Bigelow won her award because she's a woman, and talked shit about Mark Boals:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/09/quentin-tarantino-best-director-award

He publicly criticized the Academy (along with Scorsese, Lee, and others):
https://slate.com/culture/2019/02/oscars-academy-open-letter-tarantino-lee-scorsese-deakins.html

Tarantino might want Best Pic or Best Director, but over the years he's second guessed & directly insulted the people who vote for those awards.
mostly rightfully so...

[MadMan]

One thing that continues to surprise me is the unavailability of Oscar nominated films right up until the awards.

If the Academy wants people to be interested in the show, they should ensure more people can see the damn movies. I don't know how that would happen, especially because distribution is so screwed up right now, but it needs to happen.

Eg: The trades crowed about "Parasite's" big box office here, but the reality is: It played in less than 700 theaters in the U.S. Few people saw it.

Thank you. Although I will admit Parasite did come to my neck of the woods. I missed it because it came and left within less than a week.

[MadMan]

Ivan I still have seen a decent number of the winners for the MCFCA's. Little Women and Knives Out are ones I hope to get to in the next few weeks.

[origami_mustache]

I heard Alec Baldwin on Howard Stern talking about how he knows producers that control blocks of votes because elder Academy members grandfathered in from working on movies from the 60s and such that don't keep up ask who they should vote for. Not surprising, but also even more disheartening. Also studios have to actively campaign to win. It is all pretty sick.

[Pop Trash]

I heard Alec Baldwin on Howard Stern talking about how he knows producers that control blocks of votes because elder Academy members grandfathered in from working on movies from the 60s and such that don't keep up ask who they should vote for. Not surprising, but also even more disheartening. Also studios have to actively campaign to win. It is all pretty sick.

Wait, there's a cabal of producers that vote for numerous elderly Academy voters who are too checked out on new movies to vote themselves? That's some Under the Silver Lake shit right there! Do they do their Oscar voting between an omelet and a blowjob?

[TGM]

Frozen II just got snubbed best animated feature, so I no longer have a dog in the race to root for. My awards season ended early this year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Peng]

Best Documentary and Best Animated branches have always consistently delivered these past years.

[Grouchy]

News outlets like Variety are all writing sentences such as "women directors have been shut out of the Best Director race". I'm honestly confused - do they genuinely believe something like that is happening or is it just a line?

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[TGM]

Best Documentary and Best Animated branches have always consistently delivered these past years.

... except, of course, for this year. >.>

[Peng]

News outlets like Variety are all writing sentences such as "women directors have been shut out of the Best Director race". I'm honestly confused - do they genuinely believe something like that is happening or is it just a line?


I believe so myself, but not that angrily. Best Director branch have always been a boys club, and it takes a muscular war genre for a woman to to win one. I still can't quite believe Gerwig's rather miraculous Lady Bird nom, for an unabashedly female coming-of-age film. Personally I think she deserves a nom even more, and among the top 5 this year, for the way she refigures Little Women into something fresh and exciting, but I've always felt the film would be perceived unfairly as too "girly" for the branch. Would have been a nice welcome surprise, but I didn't expect it much.

[Peng]

... except, of course, for this year. >.>

Including this year. :p

[Wryan]

The Oscar Nominees:

https://oscar.go.com/nominees

[TGM]

Including this year. :p

I will fight you on this!! ;)

[Philip J. Fry]

Frozen II just got snubbed best animated feature, so I no longer have a dog in the race to root for. My awards season ended early this year. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Good, because the other five films are much better.

[TGM]

Good, because the other five films are much better.

I will fight you, too. :rolleyes:

[Peng]

Academy Awards (nominations)

Best Picture

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Directing

Martin Scorsese
Todd Phillips
Sam Mendes
Quentin Tarantino
Bong Joon-ho


Actress in a Leading Role

Cynthia Erivo, Harriet
Scarlett Johansson, Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan, Little Women
Charlize Theron, Bombshell
Renée Zellweger, Judy

Actor in a Leading Role

Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver, Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix, Joker
Jonathan Pryce, The Two Popes

Actress in a Supporting Role

Kathy Bates, Richard Jewell
Laura Dern, Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson, Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh, Little Women
Margot Robbie, Bombshell


Actor in a Supporting Role

Tom Hanks, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins, The Two Popes
Al Pacino, The Irishman
Joe Pesci, The Irishman
Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Adapted Screenplay

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
The Two Popes

Original Screenplay

Knives Out
Marriage Story
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Cinematography

The Irishman
Joker
The Lighthouse
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Original Song

“I Can’t Let You Throw Yourself Away�, Toy Story 4
“(I’m Gonna) Love Me Again�, Rocketman
“I’m Standing With You�, Breakthrough
“Into The Unknown�, Frozen 2
“Stand Up�, Harriet

Original Score

Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
1917
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Documentary Feature

American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland

Documentary Short Subject

In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You’re a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha

Live Action Short Film

Brotherhood (Travelling, les films qui voyagent)
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors’ Window
Saria
A Sister

Animated Feature Film

How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Universal)
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4

Animated Short Film

Dcera (Daughter)
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister

International Feature Film

Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Misérables
Pain and Glory
Parasite

Film Editing

Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Parasite

Production Design

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite

Costume Design

The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Makeup and Hairstyling

Bombshell
Joker
Judy
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil
1917

Sound Editing

Ford v Ferrari
Joker
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Sound Mixing

Ad Astra
Ford v Ferrari
Joker
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Visual Effects

Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
1917
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

[Peng]

Happy for Parasite's 6 noms (including Editing and Production Design, which signal some real strength), and first noms for Antonio Banderas and Scarlett Johansson, in which the latter has double noms!

Interesting: Honeyland getting both doc and foreign, and OUATIH missing Best Editing...

[Philip J. Fry]

I will fight you, too. :rolleyes:https://media.giphy.com/media/WI6FLFEvmLtRK/giphy.gif

[Morris Schæffer]

Though Lopez was getting a nom and Sandler. Heck even eddie m for dolemite...

[Irish]

I'm old enough and jaded enough that the Academy should never surprise me but every year they do.

They were spoiled for choice and still made some of the dumbest, blandest selections possible.

Like, zero noms for Sandler or Murphy but 2 for Scarjo.

11 noms for one of the worst movies of the year.

There's Todd again, sitting in somebody else's chair.

Screenplay continues to be used as a "runners up" dumping ground.

Yet despite obvious omissions, there's 4-5 solid movies in Picture, Documentary, and Foreign (aka "International"). Can't remember the last time that happened.

[Ivan Drago]

Incredibly pissed off that Apollo 11 was snubbed for Best Documentary.

[Wryan]

Pretty annoying that They Shall Not Grow Old missed the filing deadline for the previous year's awards, and obviously can't claim to be a 2019 film for this year's.

[Ezee E]

-Apollo 11 missing Documentary is truly surprising.
-Hate on Joker as much as you want, but those tech awards are deserving.
-Haven't seen Little Women, so I can't comment, but definitely over the checkbox approach that people have in mind for acting and directing nominations. I still feel that most of Film Twitter and critics are hypocrites when it comes down to this, and just going for clicks to their sites. How many disregarded the Joker score until last Sunday when they saw that the composer was a female?
-If Film Twitter wants to really dig into diversity and "traditional old Academy picks," it's the Marriage Story/Two Popes/Little Women that should be sought after (some of which are still good, but no racism)
-Short films have the best titles.
-Once Upon A Time is winning this thing despite the editing miss.

[TGM]

https://media.giphy.com/media/WI6FLFEvmLtRK/giphy.gif

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b9/9f/2b/b99f2b4f21b45bf09a3336a16e3d36 ce.gif

[Irish]

Once Upon A Time is winning this thing despite the editing miss.

Read this morning that only 10 films have won Picture without winning Editing, which worried me. I'm pulling for Tarantino this year which is a sure sign he will lose.

That said:

I think they'll split the major awards across 4 different films.

Either that or fucking "Jojo" will sweep because it's the safest, dumbest choice.

[Irish]

Also, shoulda mentioned: I'm pissed "Portrait of a Lady on Fire" got shut out because France chose "Les Miserables" over it.

[Wryan]

Read this morning that only 10 films have won Picture without winning Editing, which worried me.

Wait, what? Surely that can't be true. Do you mean nominated for editing?

[Ezee E]

Also, shoulda mentioned: I'm pissed "Portrait of a Lady on Fire" got shut out because France chose "Les Miserables" over it.

This goes along with part of my hypocritical bloggers/critics articles, because this was so underseen.

[Ezee E]

Wait, what? Surely that can't be true. Do you mean nominated for editing?

I'm pretty sure it's nominated for editing wherethere was a long streak of nominated Editing = Picture hits.

33 years where the Best Picture was also in best editing (ended in 2014.) From 2015-2019, it has started again.

So, pretty important. But not necessary to win. Winner of Best Editing/Picture together hasn't happened since Argo.

[Stay Puft]

Wait, what? Surely that can't be true. Do you mean nominated for editing?

Nominated for editing, yeah. I'm assuming Irish is talking about that old(ish) Variety article.

But the relationship between Best Editing and Best Picture is known. Every single Best Picture winner since 1980 (when Ordinary People won, without an editing nom) was also nominated for editing, and the majority also won. Up until the time of the Variety article, I mean, which E pointed out above me.

[Stay Puft]

Also, I'd love to see another Missing Link upset like the Globes. The reaction to that was hilarious.

[Irish]

Wait, what? Surely that can't be true. Do you mean nominated for editing?

Yes! Meant to say nominated (thanks for catching that)

The list I saw was:

"It Happened One Night" (1934)
"The Life of Emile Zola" (1937)
"Hamlet" (1948)
"Marty" (1955)
"Tom Jones" (1963)
"A Man for All Seasons" (1966)
"The Godfather Part II" (1974)
"Annie Hall" (1977)
"Ordinary People" (1980)
"Birdman" (2014)

[Dukefrukem]

Incredibly pissed off that Apollo 11 was snubbed for Best Documentary.

How the fuck is this possible?????

[Dukefrukem]

11 noms for one of the worst movies of the year.



I mean.. I hated the Irishman too but it's nowhere near the likes of Polaroid, 47 Meters Down Unchaged and 6 Underground.

[Irish]

I mean.. I hated the Irishman too but it's nowhere near the likes of Polaroid, 47 Meters Down Unchaged and 6 Underground.

Lemme put it this way: It's the "Bye Bye Man" of mainstream studio films

[Dukefrukem]

Lemme put it this way: It's the "Bye Bye Man" of mainstream studio films

I understand perfectly now. :)

[Ezee E]

How the fuck is this possible?????

The documentary branch, if I were to guess, voted against Apollo 11, because it didn't have much to gain from the Oscars, whereas the other movies will actually get seen.

Same thing happened last year I think.

[Grouchy]

Also, shoulda mentioned: I'm pissed "Portrait of a Lady on Fire" got shut out because France chose "Les Miserables" over it.
This is often a problem with the Foreign Film category. Adolfo Aristarain made history when he successfully arranged to pass his 1991 film A Place in the World as the Uruguayan candidate because Argentina had selected The Dark Side of the Heart instead. The movie ended up being nominated for Uruguay and then taken off the ballot when the ruse was discovered.

[Grouchy]

I like Tarantino and I often defend his aesthetic and narrative choices, but Hollywood doesn't deserve an editing award.

If you hated The Irishman you don't like cinema. *runs*

[Milky Joe]

Like, zero noms for Sandler or Murphy but 2 for Scarjo.

Good god. What a waste of everyone's time the oscars are

[Ivan Drago]

I thought her performances in both movies were awards-worthy. :shrug:

[TGM]

Also, The Lion King’s vfx nomination is only further proof that the Academy are cowards. ;)

[Ezee E]

Scarlett was more than deserving, IMO. Her presence in Jojo Rabbit is probably her best work in years. People are just critiquing her personality and not her performance when they say she shouldn't have been nominated.

It's Kathy Bates that should be out for a movie that nobody will remember six months from now.

The Actress nominations were considered the likely five for quite a while. Awkwafina would've been considered a surprise if she swooped in on Theron or Erivo.

[Skitch]

I think I'm most pissed about Murphy getting overlooked for Dolemite.

11 for Joker seems excessive.

I enjoyed both Joker and The Irishman, but I don't think I feel they were really Oscar worthy. Maybe some minor Oscars. *shrug*

[Irish]

Awkwafina all the way. I think the industry could use a few surprises.

I resent Scarjo's noms because she's a mediocre actress and this level of recognition makes it harder to make the case.

ETA: See also Waititi, who is a good comic writer but also a limited one; Rian Johnson, because telling a bad writer they're good never works out; Phillips, because egg avis on twitter are super gloaty right now.

[Skitch]

Best thing I've seen Scarjo acting off the top of my head...Match Point.

[Milky Joe]

Just realized that Willem Defoe wasn't nominated for The Lighthouse. Fuck this clown show forever.

[Irish]

btw, I bitched earlier in the thread about distribution & people not able to see Oscar nominated movies before awards night.

Here's a good list of where some stuff streams, including documentary & foreign film picks:

https://theplaylist.net/stream-watch-buy-oscar-films-2020-20200113/

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh can we talk about that too. I heard good things about JoJo but, Best Picture?? Would have liked to see something like Booksmart or Under the Silver Lake.

[Irish]

Duke the goal is to nominate good films, not more mediocre and bad ones :p

[Skitch]

Under the Silver Lake had more to say than Joker, imo.

[transmogrifier]

A lot of movies had a lot more to say than Joker.

[Skitch]

A lot of movies had a lot more to say than Joker.

Not wrong.

[Skitch]

Oscar's wanna win me back? Julie Strain in memorandum.

[Ezee E]

Best thing I've seen Scarjo acting off the top of my head...Match Point.

Absolutely.

Jojo is her kind of playing against type, which is why I liked her a lot in it.

[baby doll]

I have seen Once Upon a Time... in America (it was alright (https://lesamantsreguliers.wordpress.c om/2019/08/20/loin-du-vietnam-quentin-tarantinos-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/)). I want to see Pain and Glory and Parasite before they leave theatres (I'm planning to see the former tomorrow), although I'm not the biggest fan of either Almódovar or Bong, may see Les Misérables when it opens here, and I'll check out Marriage Story eventually. The rest are films I have little to no interest in seeing.

[Pop Trash]

I don't really like ScarJo in Jojo Rabbit. Her accent is pretty bad and I think she's miscast. She's good in Marriage Story. Not Adam Driver good, but I won't gripe about her nomination good.

Anyway ... I think OUATIH will get BP and 1917 will get BD. May as well engrave Roger Deakins' name on his Oscar at this point. Renee Zelwixncvjfhdjkfherweryger (sp?) will win best actress and Joaquin will win actor. Predictable. OUATIH will most likely win original screenplay, but this is a category where Parasite might have a shot. The Irishman will get best adapted. Thelma will win a well deserved Oscar for her editing on The Irishman. Tech awards will most likely go to 1917 but maybe a few bones will be thrown to Endgame? Animated will prolly be Toy Story 4 (well deserved ... I love it) but they could go against the mouse and Pixar with Missing Link. Brad and Laura Dern will win supporting, two actors I like in general but I'm perplexed by the love for these specific performances. I guess it's their time?

[baby doll]

Regardless of whether it has a chance of winning, does anybody else find the idea of giving an award to Once Upon a Time... for screenwriting utterly baffling? I can almost understand the mentality of Oscar voters who consider impersonations of famous dead people to be great acting and who think great editing means lots of cutting, but this Tarantino movie? For screenwriting? What's up with that? Did people look at this film, which is agreeably rambling but nonetheless a ramble, and think to themselves, "Any movie with this many words in it has to be well written"?

[Pop Trash]

Regardless of whether it has a chance of winning, does anybody else find the idea of giving an award to Once Upon a Time... for screenwriting utterly baffling? I can almost understand the mentality of Oscar voters who consider impersonations of famous dead people to be great acting and who think great editing means lots of cutting, but this Tarantino movie? For screenwriting? What's up with that? Did people look at this film, which is agreeably rambling but nonetheless a ramble, and think to themselves, "Any movie with this many words in it has to be well written"?

I think it's better directed than written but I rather like the structure. It's pretty weird to create a slack, rambling movie for at least 90 minutes that then culminates into the showdown that happens. The dialogue is mostly tasty ("We love Pussy." "Yes we do.") but this is the definition of specific, almost fetishistic (and sometimes literally fetishistic w/ all the feet shots) auteurism and that is everything to do with a detail driven director having his hand in every facet of production.

[Ezee E]

That's a fair point, especially when you have a script like Parasite which is so incredibly tight and every scene matters...

I could have it wrong, maybe Bong wins Screenplay and Tarantino wins Direction.

[transmogrifier]

Basically it'll be between 1917 and OUATIH for whatever categories they go head to head in. The actors are all pretty much chosen. The rest is whatever.

[baby doll]

I think it's better directed than written but I rather like the structure. It's pretty weird to create a slack, rambling movie for at least 90 minutes that then culminates into the showdown that happens. The dialogue is mostly tasty ("We love Pussy." "Yes we do.") but this is the definition of specific, almost fetishistic (and sometimes literally fetishistic w/ all the feet shots) auteurism and that is everything to do with a detail driven director having his hand in every facet of production.It's weird alright, but is it good? Or more precisely, is it good writing? Tarantino's script struck me as rather uneven, and when it's good it's hard to know who to give credit to: I thought Bruce Dern and Dakota Fanning managed to create a believably odd romantic couple in only a few minutes of screen time, but should the credit for that go to Tarantino's screenwriting or the resourcefulness of the actors in bringing the characters to life? Ultimately, it doesn't really matter (the result is what counts), but in the case of Margot Robbie's underwhelming performance as Sharon Tate, clearly the fault is entirely Tarantino's since the character as written is so thinly conceived Robbie can't do anything with it.

As for Tarantino's obsession for period detail, it seems to me that the film's major structural weaknesses as storytelling is that the glut of arcane pop culture references tends to overwhelm any sense of narrative momentum.

For the record, my picks for the best written US commercial releases of 2019 are Hong Sangsoo's Hotel by the River and Jafar Panahi's 3 Faces.

[Grouchy]

Oscar's wanna win me back? Julie Strain in memorandum.
What? Julie Strain is alive and well.

[Morris Schæffer]

So no avengers end game but black panther last year? Would have been fine if end game got a best pic nom instead of Joker. Which I really liked too.

[origami_mustache]

Bummer about Sandman and the Uncut Gems score. I also think the editing was fantastic in that film, but yeah The Academy is a fucking bore.

[MadMan]

There was no way in hell The Lighthouse was going to be nominated for any major awards. I am a bit surprised that neither Murphy nor Sandler was nominated, though.

[Skitch]

What? Julie Strain is alive and well.

Apparently I was taken by a hoax. And my phone autocorrected to "memorandum". Brilliant.

*grabs towel to hitchhike out of the solar system*

[Morris Schæffer]

Apparently I was taken by a hoax. And my phone autocorrected to "memorandum". Brilliant.

*grabs towel to hitchhike out of the solar system*

For some reason I now wanted to assure myself that Shannon Tweed was still alive. She is.

[Skitch]

For some reason I now wanted to assure myself that Shannon Tweed was still alive. She is.

Literally the only two names I know from that universe. Thank you blurry 80s cable channels.

[Idioteque Stalker]

I will be rooting for the unlikely but not impossible Parasite BP win.

[Grouchy]

Literally the only two names I know from that universe. Thank you blurry 80s cable channels.
Kari Wuhrer for the win.

[Mal]

Best thing I've seen Scarjo acting off the top of my head...Match Point.

When was the last time you watched this movie? I’m curious because I watched it a month ago and it has aged horribly on all fronts.

[Skitch]

It's been a while.

[Milky Joe]

the screenplay debate is moot, as Greta Gerwig is virtually guaranteed that award.

edit: oops nevermind, different categories

[Irish]

It's weird alright, but is it good? Or more precisely, is it good writing? Tarantino's script struck me as rather uneven, and when it's good it's hard to know who to give credit to: I thought Bruce Dern and Dakota Fanning managed to create a believably odd romantic couple in only a few minutes of screen time, but should the credit for that go to Tarantino's screenwriting or the resourcefulness of the actors in bringing the characters to life?

what


Ultimately, it doesn't really matter (the result is what counts), but in the case of Margot Robbie's underwhelming performance as Sharon Tate, clearly the fault is entirely Tarantino's since the character as written is so thinly conceived Robbie can't do anything with it.

what what


As for Tarantino's obsession for period detail, it seems to me that the film's major structural weaknesses as storytelling is that the glut of arcane pop culture references tends to overwhelm any sense of narrative momentum.

what what what

[Ezee E]

When was the last time you watched this movie? I’m curious because I watched it a month ago and it has aged horribly on all fronts.

Probably 10+ years ago for me too.

Certainly not high up on my list to rewatch, so it'll remain good in my head, lol.

[DavidSeven]

Joker is this year's Green Book/Vice. Artless stories dressed up by comedy directors who play pretend auteurs with studio resources. This is not visionary work; it's painting by numbers. Phillips just happened to use edgier material as his template, but it's derivative and trying too hard to be "prestige" all the same.

[Skitch]

Ehh. I get what point you're putting out there, but I don't think Joker is quite paint by numbers.

[Pop Trash]

Joker is this year's Green Book/Vice. Artless stories dressed up by comedy directors who play pretend auteurs with studio resources. This is not visionary work; it's painting by numbers. Phillips just happened to use edgier material as his template, but it's derivative and trying too hard to be "prestige" all the same.

How is the story "artless?"

I never saw Vice but Joker is leagues beyond the low middle brow dry biscuit of a picture that is Green Book.

[TGM]

Vice was also great. *shrug*

[Peng]

The perceived "villains" of this year's Best Pics slate (Joker and Jojo Rabbit) are way ahead of last year's (Green Book, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Vice), so that's already an improvement. Then the top crop just can't compare, definitely a big step up this year, no matter how disappointing the individual nominations below them are.

[Mal]

Scarlett isn't good in Jojo. She's GREAT in Marriage Story, and has been on a path to a nomination for 16-17ish years. The wide leg pants in both movies sealed the deal. I'm glad she's nominated despite being a jackass and I don't think she'll win, BUT just glad it happened for her, finally.

[Mal]

Regardless of whether it has a chance of winning, does anybody else find the idea of giving an award to Once Upon a Time... for screenwriting utterly baffling?

I love the film and I think the screenplay is great, but I'd like to see Parasite take it.


The perceived "villains" of this year's Best Pics slate (Joker and Jojo Rabbit) are way ahead of last year's (Green Book, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Vice), so that's already an improvement.
I don't agree. Its like comparing dog shit with deer shit. They all stink and stick to my shoe.

[Ezee E]

If Joker is pain by numbers, what's the MCU???

Ba-Dum-TISCH!

[DavidSeven]

Joker spends 80% of its run time posturing -- stealing its tone wholesale from Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy -- for no reason but to manipulate you into believing it's doing something important. At least Marvel created the template it’s repeating and has no pretensions about what it’s producing. Joker is also hallow entertainment; it’s just masquerading as prestige with a camera beholden to Phoenix’s unspecific looniness.

None of the main character’s feeble tics leads you into the final sequence of menace, except at the most superficial level (disbturbed man does a crazy thing). It is artless to me, because Phillips is appropriating the 70's "cinema" tone as an end in itself, not to reveal anything about his character or his story. To me, they could've portrayed Phoenix's character a 100 different shades of crazy, told a dozen different “deranged man� stories, and the ending still would've made complete sense.

[Grouchy]

I've only seen Match Point when it came out and I never liked it. Cassandra's Dream, though, which deals with similar themes, now that's a good movie.

As for Joker, I liked it, but I'm more interested in the cultural phenomenon it became. Whenever we film buffs dismiss a film that already surprised people and amassed a cult, it's clear to me which party is missing out on the meat and bones of the picture. Joker wasn't just its marketing - it grew huge by word of mouth.

[baby doll]

I've never been persuaded by the argument that, just because a film becomes a grassroots "cultural phenomenon," said film must have something going for it aesthetically. Sometimes shitty movies are "spontaneously" popular with stupid people who have shitty taste in movies. Bohemian Rhapsody was so popular in Japan, some multiplexes were playing it on every screen. That doesn't mean it's a good film or that it's popularity reveals some profound insight into Japanese society circa 2018. What it reveals is that most people have unadventurous tastes in music and film and prefer what's familiar and easy to what's new and challenging.

[transmogrifier]

Queen is the worst. Goddamn I hate their music.

[baby doll]

Queen is the worst. Goddamn I hate their music.Over the holidays I had kind of an epiphany about the popularity of their music. I was listening to a 70s-80s-90s radio station in the car, and "We Will Rock You" Came Up. The music and lyrics are so simple that my seven-year-old niece, who hadn't heard it before, was already singing along to it by the end of the song. This utterly simplicity is what makes their music perfect for large communal events (outdoor concerts, sporting events, etc.), and probably contributed to the popularity of Bohemian Rhapsody as a theatrical event. (The same could also be said for A Star Is Born, since most of the people who went to see it had probably already heard "Shallow.") I suspect that the relatively disappointing box office numbers for Rocketman--which made less than half as much money in North America as Bohemian Rhapsody despite being by all accounts a better, more competent film--have something to do with the relative sophistication of Elton John's music.

[Grouchy]

You guys must be a riot to hang arond.

And yeah, Rocketman was better than Bohemian Rhapsody... but that's a really low bar for any movie.

[transmogrifier]

You guys must be a riot to hang arond.

Queen is you line in the sand for whether someone is worth hanging out with? Queen?

[Ezee E]

Over the holidays I had kind of an epiphany about the popularity of their music. I was listening to a 70s-80s-90s radio station in the car, and "We Will Rock You" Came Up. The music and lyrics are so simple that my seven-year-old niece, who hadn't heard it before, was already singing along to it by the end of the song. This utterly simplicity is what makes their music perfect for large communal events (outdoor concerts, sporting events, etc.), and probably contributed to the popularity of Bohemian Rhapsody as a theatrical event. (The same could also be said for A Star Is Born, since most of the people who went to see it had probably already heard "Shallow.") I suspect that the relatively disappointing box office numbers for Rocketman--which made less than half as much money in North America as Bohemian Rhapsody despite being by all accounts a better, more competent film--have something to do with the relative sophistication of Elton John's music.

I think Rocketman being surrounded by a group of summer movies, and basically feeling like an encore to Bohemian Rhapsody was part of the problem.

But yeah, loved me some of the Queen hits when I was a kid.

[Dukefrukem]

Hell I love Queen whenever I see a Dr Pepper commercial.

[megladon8]

I, too, hate Queen. But I also recognize the musical talent of the members.

[MadMan]

I love Queen. The movie was decent/solid at best but the band rocks.

[Skitch]

I don't think I'm ever bothered when people hate bands. I just don't care. Not all music is for all people. I dig Queen. I hate Rush. I dig Led Zepplin despite most of their riffs are stolen and he sings like a wolverine has attached its fangs to his taint. I like Korn. I like latin music. I like orchestra music. I like Doris Day. I like some emo. I despise some emo.

I don't believe a things popularity, or lack their of, intrinsically determines its quality.

And baby doll throwing out that sometimes people liking a thing makes it popular means they have shitty taste in film...as though thats a definable, factual thing. Sure, some people do have a shitty taste in movies, otherwise the Asylum wouldn't exist. Sometimes, critics love an unpopular movie because its different, but just because a thing is different doesn't automatically make it good. Critics can be jaded sometimes because all they do is watch movies. I'm not saying they can't have their opinion, like what you want. But getting pissy with the audience and insulting them is lame.

[Irish]

I've been so depressed lately that listening to Joy Division (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qgFGqJz9yc&list=RD9qgFGqJz9yc&start_radio=1) cheers me up. (wait what thread is this again ...?)

Anyway I will always love Queen because of this gloriously cheesy shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4_Z84-rRE).

[Grouchy]

I don't think I'm ever bothered when people hate bands. I just don't care. Not all music is for all people. I dig Queen. I hate Rush. I dig Led Zepplin despite most of their riffs are stolen and he sings like a wolverine has attached its fangs to his taint. I like Korn. I like latin music. I like orchestra music. I like Doris Day. I like some emo. I despise some emo.
I'm not genuinely upset that three people in this forum don't like Queen. I do wonder what other wonderful stuff they dislike. Sunshine? Air? Life? But seriously, I, like you, have a varied taste in music and people sometimes do get outraged that I can appreciate, I dunno, a Schubert string quartet and Shakira.

This is my playlist if you really want to know how eclectic my taste in music can be - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4fXbDxjyFI4iwo7J9KJok6?si=jtgo nZvwRmCJPu9Ly43Wmw

Anyway, I'm aware Bohemian Rhapsody made tons of money while being a shit movie but I think it was one of those surprise hits that don't really have staying power. I know a lot of people IRL who liked it but they weren't passionate about it - Joker fans are very passionate. And the plot twist is that very few of them seem to be potential mass murderers.

[Grouchy]

I will always love Queen because Freddy Mercury is, hands down, the greatest live performer of all time. The closest one I can think of who is still alive would be Rob Halford.

[Irish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1WJqKWqUHQ

^ Double anyway, I like it when people take hard and fast stances on old bands. I grinned when I read trans' post.

[transmogrifier]

Hard and fast? Dude, I've suffered a lifetime of Queen. This is an opinion chiseled in stone!

[transmogrifier]

This is my playlist if you really want to know how eclectic my taste in music can be - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4fXbDxjyFI4iwo7J9KJok6?si=jtgo nZvwRmCJPu9Ly43Wmw


*opens playlists*
*first song is by UB40*
*closes playlist*

:)

[baby doll]

I don't believe a things popularity, or lack their of, intrinsically determines its quality.

And baby doll throwing out that sometimes people liking a thing makes it popular means they have shitty taste in film...as though thats a definable, factual thing. Sure, some people do have a shitty taste in movies, otherwise the Asylum wouldn't exist. Sometimes, critics love an unpopular movie because its different, but just because a thing is different doesn't automatically make it good. Critics can be jaded sometimes because all they do is watch movies. I'm not saying they can't have their opinion, like what you want. But getting pissy with the audience and insulting them is lame.That's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that the fact of a film being popular isn't in itself significant, contrary to Grouchy's claim that cinephiles who dismiss Joker must be missing something essential about the film. Sometimes films are popular for uninteresting reasons despite being bad.

[Ezee E]

Papa Roach?

[Skitch]

That's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that the fact of a film being popular isn't in itself significant, contrary to Grouchy's claim that cinephiles who dismiss Joker must be missing something essential about the film. Sometimes films are popular for uninteresting reasons despite being bad.

You are right, and that point can easily be made without shitting on people who disagree.

[Skitch]

I'm not genuinely upset that three people in this forum don't like Queen. I do wonder what other wonderful stuff they dislike. Sunshine? Air? Life? But seriously, I, like you, have a varied taste in music and people sometimes do get outraged that I can appreciate, I dunno, a Schubert string quartet and Shakira.


I need to make better use of the quote button. My comments were not in any way pointed at you, even though looking back it looks like it. My bad. I just meant to be chiming in.

[MadMan]

I've been so depressed lately that listening to Joy Division (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qgFGqJz9yc&list=RD9qgFGqJz9yc&start_radio=1) cheers me up. (wait what thread is this again ...?)

Anyway I will always love Queen because of this gloriously cheesy shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4_Z84-rRE).

Joy Division rules. Rush and Led Zeppelin are among my favorite bands.

I know that my taste in cinema rocks. I am one with the cinema.

[MadMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1WJqKWqUHQ

^ Double anyway, I like it when people take hard and fast stances on old bands. I grinned when I read trans' post.

I still laugh at this scene even though I like The Eagles these days. Also Joker was great-what a nice comic book remake of Taxi Driver.

[origami_mustache]

I had the all you can eat fried chicken meal today at the the nihilist pancake house in The Big Lebowski.

[Irish]

Ezee, what are your predictions this year for the major categories?

[Peng]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/gKqY3Xh9RE6JAmbdfo/giphy.gif

Damnnnn, Parasite winning a historic win for SAG Ensemble award (first foreign cast to do so, and only the second to be nominated after Life Is Beautiful, and that was way before they opened up the membership so their tastes have been more common) just gets my hope up for it being the Best Picture dark horse upset against 1917 (a frontrunner after it won PGA). Let's see what DGA and WGA will bring. But so glad for this win anyway!!!

[Peng]

Blessed images.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/kangho-song-park-sodam-bong-joonho-lee-jung-eun-lee-sun-gyun-and-choi-picture-id1200634937?s=2048x2048

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOsk0w1UwAAbXqR?format=jpg&name=small


Sad Cho Yeo-jeong (the rich mom) wasn't there too because she has a K-series currently going on (she only managed a Golden Globes appearance). But still!

[Ezee E]

Ezee, what are your predictions this year for the major categories?

Picture - still pondering on, but I think Once Upon A Time In Hollywood... Hollywood story, A+ actors, history that jives with majority of voters. HAS females in it. It's this or Parasite.

Director - Bong Joon-Ho.
Actor - Phoenix
Actress - Zelwegger now... but I'm mostly like, "Really? Did people see this? This comeback story... It's not like she's being casted in anything else. She may very well disappear again."
Supporting Actor - Pitt. Pesci could've stolen it if he remotely tried, but he obviously has no interest in this type of thing. Pitt will get a standing ovation.
Supporting Actress - Dern. Was wrong to think Lopez's star power would've led the way. Ego and not exactly a actor's actor in a way makes sense that she didn't get nominated. Dern is Hollywood royalty and overdue. Just a weird role that's winning.

[Peng]

Picture - still pondering on, but I think Once Upon A Time In Hollywood... Hollywood story, A+ actors, history that jives with majority of voters. HAS females in it. It's this or Parasite.

Director - Bong Joon-Ho.
Actor - Phoenix
Actress - Zelwegger now... but I'm mostly like, "Really? Did people see this? This comeback story... It's not like she's being casted in anything else. She may very well disappear again."
Supporting Actor - Pitt. Pesci could've stolen it if he remotely tried, but he obviously has no interest in this type of thing. Pitt will get a standing ovation.
Supporting Actress - Dern. Was wrong to think Lopez's star power would've led the way. Ego and not exactly a actor's actor in a way makes sense that she didn't get nominated. Dern is Hollywood royalty and overdue. Just a weird role that's winning.

The acting categories are probably locked at this point. Weakest frontrunner is Zellweger, but she still sweeps and doesn’t have anyone who can replace her. I’m not sure about Bong getting director though, since 1917’s very showy long take(s) align with what wins this category in past years, plus it’s in English (sadly I think still a hurdle for Bong), but we will know more at DGA. And Hollywood, as much as its surface seems to indicate a Best Picture win back this year, doesn’t look to have any support at any industry guild, even after its visible and televised Golden Globes wins (Parasite gets the editing guild awards too). Its likeliest support in a guild win was SAG (considering the star-studded cast) and they went with Parasite. I think it comes down to 1917 as frontrunner vs Parasite as a possibly strong upset. We will probably know surer when we have 2 more guild awards to look on.

[Pop Trash]

The SAG award for Parasite is huge. That pretty much pushes it into spoiler territory for 1917 (which won PGA ... arguably the best predictor for BP there is). Still, actors make up the largest group in the Academy, so SAG best cast award is also a good indicator. I think it's looking like this right now in order of likelihood ...

1. 1917
2. Parasite
3. OUATIH
4. The Irishman
5. Joker

[Ezee E]

I do wonder if a male-only movie (minus one scene) could win it at the Oscars. PGA and DGA is a little different. 1917 didn't even get an ensemble nomination is the thing holding it back for me.

[Pop Trash]

I do wonder if a male-only movie (minus one scene) could win it at the Oscars. PGA and DGA is a little different. 1917 didn't even get an ensemble nomination is the thing holding it back for me.

PGA and the Oscars split more often in the '90s and '00s but since 2007 w/ No Country for Old Men, they've lined up on everything except The Big Short (over Spotlight) and Lala Land (over Moonlight). I imagine the Vegas odds are w/ 1917 at this point.

[Ezee E]

PGA and the Oscars split more often in the '90s and '00s but since 2007 w/ No Country for Old Men, they've lined up on everything except The Big Short (over Spotlight) and Lala Land (over Moonlight). I imagine the Vegas odds are w/ 1917 at this point.

Big Short is mostly an all-men movie too.

The way the Oscars vote isn't necessarily a "pick your favorite" either. There's a preferential ballot, which you do need to take into account, in that what's likely to be more of a #2, #3, #4 on people's lists, and what will others put at the bottom? This is a big piece of why La La Land lost, because if it wasn't your #1 of the year, people tended to hate it.

This is why I'm starting to also think Parasite could win, because I don't know one person who hasn't liked it.

[MadMan]

My money is on 1917 winning Best Picture.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm not reading many critics thoughts, but I'm generally shocked at Phoenix being the front runner here.

[TGM]

While I do genuinely believe he gave a great performance, if not exactly the best performance of the year, from what I’ve gathered, Phoenix at the front appears to be more of a “he’s been overdue a win” situation, similar to when Leo finally won for The Revenant.

That said, assuming he does win, I just think it’ll be pretty cool that the Joker would then be a 2 time Oscar winning role.

[Dukefrukem]

Well it would be nice if the academy would catch up to itself and give the awards to the people that deserved them in the years of their actual top performance.

[TGM]

Don’t disagree with you in the slightest there!

[Ezee E]

Well it would be nice if the academy would catch up to itself and give the awards to the people that deserved them in the years of their actual top performance.

In a year like this one, I'd be fine with Phoenix/DiCaprio/Driver winning.

[Pop Trash]

Well it would be nice if the academy would catch up to itself and give the awards to the people that deserved them in the years of their actual top performance.

C'mon Duke. We all know Scent of a Woman is Al Pacino's greatest film!

[Pop Trash]

I'm not reading many critics thoughts, but I'm generally shocked at Phoenix being the front runner here.

I'm perplexed by the frontrunner status of all the acting awards. I guess there's inside baseball politics involved and people think they are "due" but the idea that Dern, Renee Z, Brad, and JP are the consensus pick by all these awards bodies is very odd to me (of course I have zero interest in seeing Judy, so maybe I'm wrong about that one).

[Lazlo]

I can understand the front-runner status of Dern, Pitt, and Phoenix, but Zellweger is a bit of a mystery to me. It's an okay-to-pretty-good movie with a really solid performance, but it doesn't seem like many people saw it and it certainly didn't do gangbusters box office or stick to the cultural consciousness much beyond its Telluride premiere in September. But it was that weekend that it was decided that she was the front-runner and somehow she never relinquished that. Like, somewhere it was decided that she was gonna win it and everyone said, okay, that works for us. Feels similar to Glenn Close last year, even though she didn't end up winning. The math of how that decision gets made so far in advance is weird but it happens a lot.

[Ezee E]

I can understand the front-runner status of Dern, Pitt, and Phoenix, but Zellweger is a bit of a mystery to me. It's an okay-to-pretty-good movie with a really solid performance, but it doesn't seem like many people saw it and it certainly didn't do gangbusters box office or stick to the cultural consciousness much beyond its Telluride premiere in September. But it was that weekend that it was decided that she was the front-runner and somehow she never relinquished that. Like, somewhere it was decided that she was gonna win it and everyone said, okay, that works for us. Feels similar to Glenn Close last year, even though she didn't end up winning. The math of how that decision gets made so far in advance is weird but it happens a lot.

Pretty weak year otherwise, and it doesn't seem like there's much marketing/publicity for anyone else.

I DO think there will be at least one surprise here. Most likely in one of the actress categories. If Scarlett didn't have a weird reputation from her interview bits throughout the year, I'd almost wonder if she'd be a frontrunner.

[Lazlo]

Pretty weak year otherwise, and it doesn't seem like there's much marketing/publicity for anyone else.

I DO think there will be at least one surprise here. Most likely in one of the actress categories. If Scarlett didn't have a weird reputation from her interview bits throughout the year, I'd almost wonder if she'd be a frontrunner.

Well, weak if you're like the Academy and refuse to look beyond the narrow window they always look through. I get that there's more to it on a publicity front than just quality, but there's tons of good options that even they could sleep at night having chosen: Awkwafina, Lupita Nyong'o (who's already in the damn club!), Elisabeth Moss, Ana de Armas, Julianne Moore, just to name a few. It's frustrating that their taste is so unimaginative and tied to their misguided idea of "prestige." And I liked Zellweger and Judy, they're just not near the top of my list.

I'm just always bemused by the way it often seems to work, that sometime in August it was decided that this belongs to Zellweger and that nothing's happened to change that decision.

Hoping there's a surprise in the final results, like you say. There was last year.

[Ezee E]

Well, weak if you're like the Academy and refuse to look beyond the narrow window they always look through. I get that there's more to it on a publicity front than just quality, but there's tons of good options that even they could sleep at night having chosen: Awkwafina, Lupita Nyong'o (who's already in the damn club!), Elisabeth Moss, Ana de Armas, Julianne Moore, just to name a few. It's frustrating that their taste is so unimaginative and tied to their misguided idea of "prestige." And I liked Zellweger and Judy, they're just not near the top of my list.

I'm just always bemused by the way it often seems to work, that sometime in August it was decided that this belongs to Zellweger and that nothing's happened to change that decision.

Hoping there's a surprise in the final results, like you say. There was last year.

Judy's been baffling me all year for the exact reason you shared. She's not exactly getting huge kudos at the award shows as far as applause and ovations go.

I was even at Telluride and there weren't that many raves on even her performance. She was given a "Tribute" but there was far more interest in Marriage Story, Uncut Gems, and Ford V Ferrari. Once Renee's tribute/Q&As were over, Judy was at half capacity.

[Mal]

Putting money on a Saoirse upset.

[Ezee E]

Putting money on a Saoirse upset.

Would love that.

[transmogrifier]

I wish I could comment on Zellweger's performance, but there is no way in hell I am watching another straight down the line celebrity biopic. Walk Hard should have banished them to the shadow realm.

[Mal]

I wish I could comment on Zellweger's performance, but there is no way in hell I am watching another straight down the line celebrity biopic. Walk Hard should have banished them to the shadow realm.

If you've seen the trailer, you've seen the movie. A lot of mugging and stilted singing. I'm not a huge Judy Garland fan, though its clearly a vividly inauthentic biopic that doesn't deserve her name. It really sucks that Zellweger is going to win a second Oscar for YET ANOTHER wince-worthy performance.

[Pop Trash]

I met Renee Z on set one time for the movie Appaloosa. I would do extra work between jobs. She was probably one of the nicest big name celebs I saw on set. She went around to every single extra and thanked them for helping out. It was really sweet. The only other person who was similar was Kevin Costner.

I wonder if some politics is involved like she is well liked in the biz but was unceremoniously kicked out for being too old or a has been or whatever and later dissed on by the Celebrity Industrial Complex for bad plastic surgery. Stuff like that matters to Oscar voters (her peers, basically).

[MadMan]

I wish I could comment on Zellweger's performance, but there is no way in hell I am watching another straight down the line celebrity biopic. Walk Hard should have banished them to the shadow realm.

Ok so I liked Rocketman. Walk Hard does rule.

[Mal]

They care about and like her, definitely. I doubt anyone in Hollywood cares about Judy (2019). This is her "comeback."

[Peng]

Writers Guild of America (WGA) Awards 2019

Film

Best Original Screenplay - Parasite
Best Adapted Screenplay - Jojo Rabbit
Best Documentary Screenplay - The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley


Television

Drama Series - Succession
Comedy Series - Barry
New Series - Watchmen

Long Form – Original - Chernobyl
Long Form – Adapted - Fosse/Verdon

Short Form New Media – Original - Special (Netflix) – Ryan O'Connell
Animation - "Thanksgiving of Horror" – The Simpsons

Episodic Drama - "Tern Haven" – Succession
Episodic Comedy - "Pilot" – Dead to Me

Comedy/Variety – Talk Series - Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

Comedy/Variety – Specials - Full Frontal with Samantha Bee Presents: Not the White House Correspondents' Dinner Part 2
Comedy/Variety – Sketch Series - I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson

[Ezee E]

Hard to believe Chernobyl isn't based on some book.

[Peng]

BAFTA Awards:

BEST FILM
1917

OUTSTANDING BRITISH FILM
1917

OUTSTANDING DEBUT BY A BRITISH WRITER, DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER
BAIT

FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
PARASITE

DOCUMENTARY
FOR SAMA

ANIMATED FILM
KLAUS

DIRECTOR
1917

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
PARASITE

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
JOJO RABBIT

LEADING ACTRESS
RENÉE ZELLWEGER Judy

LEADING ACTOR
JOAQUIN PHOENIX Joker

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
LAURA DERN Marriage Story

SUPPORTING ACTOR
BRAD PITT Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

ORIGINAL SCORE
JOKER

CASTING
JOKER

CINEMATOGRAPHY
1917

EDITING
FORD V FERRARI

PRODUCTION DESIGN
1917

COSTUME DESIGN
LITTLE WOMEN

MAKE UP & HAIR
BOMBSHELL

SOUND
1917

SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS
1917

BRITISH SHORT ANIMATION
GRANDAD WAS A ROMANTIC.

BRITISH SHORT FILM
LEARNING TO SKATEBOARD IN A WARZONE (IF YOU’RE A GIRL)

EE RISING STAR AWARD
MICHEAL WARD

[Peng]

Big lol at Joker's Casting win. Now Parasite's Original Screenplay win seems pretty much assured, which produces this hilarious reaction while Bong was making a joke in his acceptance speech:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPzo7G2U0AEn8Dq?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Pop Trash]

Don't get the casting for Joker, other JP getting cast, but that seems like more Philips and JP teaming up first and getting financing. I would give it to OUATIH (finding lookalikes who could actually act was prolly a pain in the butt for a casting director) or maybe Little Women, Parasite, 1917.

[Irish]

"Parasite" is a lock for International but I think people overestimate it's chances otherwise. (The talk around it feels like a replay of "Crouching Tiger's" run 20 years ago.)

I'm very tired this morning and if I had the energy, I'd put it more tactfully, but:

- The Academy almost always reflects a certain ... let's call it ... "American bias." (When I say "bias" I really mean racism. I'm talking about racism right now. Racism, in case that wasn't clear.)

- Pretty sure Bong & company are not in the unions, which lessens their chances.

- Original Screenplay will go to Tarantino (again!) as a runner up prize. They'll likely fuck him over in other categories, per usual.

Hope I'm wrong and looking forward to being pleasantly surprised this time next week!

[Wryan]

- The Academy almost always reflects a certain ... let's call it ... "American bias." (When I say "bias" I really mean racism. I'm talking about racism right now. Racism, in case that wasn't clear.)

I don't know why you have to be so nebulous. Your opinions are an impenetrable fog. From within, a gull cries out mournfully. The salt air tightens the skin on my face. But lo! A ship's lantern is spied! I hear the creaking of the mast, the whipping of the sails! This ship shade haunts me! The torment of a thousand sopping, sponge-slick souls! Relentless they follow...I'll never escape...!

This moment has been brought to you by Robert Eggers.

[baby doll]

The main reasons the Oscars exist is to boost the image of the American film industry and promote mid-budget films that otherwise wouldn't have a chance to become blockbusters. When the award has gone to a foreign film in the past, it's invariably an international co-production in English between the US and another country (the UK or France). Moreover, Parasite's US distributor, Neon, is an indie outfit founded in 2017 that lacks the muscle of a conglomerate like Universal, which is handling 1917 (the presumptive Oscar winner). Moreover, Neon's co-founder has explicitly stated that the company wants to target the under-45 demographic, whereas the Academy skews old. Even if racism didn't exist, Parasite would not win best picture or best director.

[TGM]

Just realized that they couldn’t even manage to work out theater showings for The Irishman or Marriage Story for AMC’s Best Picture Showcase this weekend. That’s pretty lame. :\

[Irish]

Hey baby doll --- any chance for a review/essay about "Parasite" on your blog? Similar to the one you did for "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood"?

[Dukefrukem]

Only a couple days left. Anything else MC lists as a must see before Oscar time?

Unseen:

Jojo Rabbit
Little Women
Harriet
Bombshell
Judy
Pain and Glory
The Two Popes
Richard Jewell
Rocketman
Frozen 2
Breakthrough
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Universal)
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Corpus Christi
Honeyland
Les Misérables

[Lazlo]

Jojo Rabbit - Yes
Little Women - YES (My #1 of the year)
Harriet - No
Bombshell - No, unless you care about makeup. It's really impressive.
Judy - Yes
Pain and Glory - Yes
The Two Popes - No
Richard Jewell - No
Rocketman - Yes
Frozen 2 - No
Breakthrough - Major no
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (Universal) - No
I Lost My Body - Yes
Klaus - YES, it's great!
Missing Link - No
Corpus Christi - Haven't seen
Honeyland - Maybe
Les Misérables - No

[Dukefrukem]

Yikes. 7 Must sees before Sunday. Gotta get to work and tell the wife we are putting the Expanse on hold.

[TGM]

Frozen 2 - Yes

Figured I’d fix that for you. ;)

[Irish]

Yes:
Pain and Glory

Maybe:
The Two Popes

No:
Any docufiction with big names

Hell no:
Jojo Rabbit

[Lazlo]

Figured I’d fix that for you. ;)

Oh, thanks!

[TGM]

Oh, thanks!

Any time. :cool:

[baby doll]

Notwithstanding Julieta (which I haven't seen), Pain and Glory is easily Almodóvar's best film since Talk to Her.

[baby doll]

Hey baby doll --- any chance for a review/essay about "Parasite" on your blog? Similar to the one you did for "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood"?I have no plans to write about it at present.

[Irish]

Booooooooooo! Booooooo!

(hope you change your mind)

[Pop Trash]

Richard Jewell is a very good film. Forget the haters.

[Dukefrukem]

Richard Jewell is a very good film. Forget the haters.

The more divisive, the more interested I am to see it.

[Lazlo]

The more divisive, the more interested I am to see it.

It's booooorrrrinnggggggg. (I haven't liked any of Clint's movies since Changeling, so that might be a barometer for you).

[Irish]

"Richard Jewell" isn't interesting enough to be divisive. It's a TV movie-of-the-week. The shots it takes at media and government are obvious and expected.

I also had a similar problem with "Harriet," "Bombshell," and "Just Mercy" (which wasn't nominated this year but might have been in others). All 3 have terrific lead performances and all 3 take a soft-rock, easy-listening approach to their stories.

[Dukefrukem]

Ok everyone. Rank Clint. go!

[Dukefrukem]

1. Unforgiven 1992 ★★★★★
2. Million Dollar Baby 2004 ★★★★½
3. Gran Torino 2008 ★★★★
4. Mystic River 2003 ★★★★
5. Sully 2016 ★★★
6. American Sniper 2014 ★★½
7. J. Edgar 2011 ★★½
8. The Mule 2018 ★★½
9. The 15:17 to Paris 2018 ★★
10. Hereafter 2010 ★

[Lazlo]

1. Unforgiven
2. The Outlaw Josey Wales
3. Million Dollar Baby
4. Mystic River
5. Changeling
6. High Plains Drifter
7. Gran Torino
8. Letters From Iwo Jima
9. Space Cowboys
10. Pale Rider
11. Richard Jewell
--- Starts getting bad here ---
12. Flags of Our Fathers
13. Invictus
14. Sully
15. American Sniper
16. Hereafter
17. J. Edgar

[Grouchy]

1. Unforgiven
2. High Plains Drifter
3. Gran Torino
4. The Outlaw Josey Wales
5. A Perfect World
6. Pale Rider
7. Breezy
8. Absolute Power
9. Sudden Impact
10. The Bridges of Madison County

11. Mystic River
12. White Hunter, Black Heart
13. The Gauntlet
14. Letters from Iwo Jima
15. Bird
16. Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
17. Flags of Our Fathers
18. Million Dollar Baby
19. Blood Work
20. Changeling

* starts getting bad here*

21. Invictus
22. Hereafter
23. American Sniper
24. Sully
25. Jersey Boys
26. The Mule

[Ezee E]

I figure you should see the Best Pic nominees at least. That includes myself having to see Little Women.

[Peng]

I happen to have seen exactly 10 of his.

4.5/5
1. Unforgiven
2. The Bridge of Madison County

4/5
3. Million Dollar Baby
4. Mystic River (suspect this would go down on rewatch though)

3.5/5
5. Sully

3/5
6. Richard Jewell
7. American Sniper

2.5/5
8. Bloodwork
9. Gran Torino
10. Hereafter



As a film, RJ isn’t essential, but Paul Walter Hauser’s performance ranks among the best of the year.

[Peng]

I figure you should see the Best Pic nominees at least. That includes myself having to see Little Women.

That reminds me to update the thread because I rewatched it (had time to kill between work and a dinner meeting and the showing was the only perfect time slot available) and loved it even more this time!

[baby doll]

Ok everyone. Rank Clint. go!Play Misty for Me (1971) warm
White Hunter, Black Heart (1990) spicy
Unforgiven (1992) mild
A Perfect World (1993) spicy
The Bridges of Madison County (1995) warm
Mystic River (2003) mild
Million Dollar Baby (2004) cold
Flags of Our Fathers (2006) cold
Letters from Iwo Jima (2006) cold
Changeling (2008) mild
Gran Torino (2008) spicy
Invictus (2009) cold
Hereafter (2010) spicy
J. Edgar (2011) cold

It's been too long since I've seen True Crime or Space Cowboys to evaluate them.

[Pop Trash]

Ok everyone. Rank Clint. go!

Masterpiece
Unforgiven

Very Good
Pale Rider
Letters From Iwo Jima
Flags of Our Fathers
Million Dollar Baby
Gran Torino
Sudden Impact
A Perfect World
Richard Jewell
The Bridges of Madison County
The Outlaw Josey Wales
The Mule

Good w/ some flaws
American Sniper
Absolute Power
Mystic River

Not good
J. Edgar



So many of these I haven't seen in decades.

[TGM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ACsKff_sY

[transmogrifier]

The order of awards has International Feature Film quite late on, 7th from the end - I think that means 1917 has Best Film and Sam Mendes has Directing in the bag, the logic being that they want Parasite to get some of the spotlight but it's not going to get it for the overall prize or director.

[Dukefrukem]

Academy Award Winner Brad Pitt.

[Dukefrukem]

Oh shit. No Screenplay award for Quentin. Parasite Ftw

[Morris Schæffer]

Yeah some surprises already.

[Wryan]

Pitt over Pesci!? Look, I enjoyed Once Upon... and Pitt in it, but absolutely not.

[MadMan]

Nah Pitt deserved to win over Pacino. It was close, though.

Yey for Deakins winning.

[Morris Schæffer]

Haha Romano making up for the censored fucks in Lose Yourself

[Dukefrukem]

The order of awards has International Feature Film quite late on, 7th from the end - I think that means 1917 has Best Film and Sam Mendes has Directing in the bag, the logic being that they want Parasite to get some of the spotlight but it's not going to get it for the overall prize or director.

This is now looking accurate.