The Comic Book Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 7

number8

08-28-2009, 07:04 AM

no, but i remember pyg from 666.

First splash page of RIP ("You're wrong! Batman and Robin will live forever!") is what happens right after Batman & Robin crashes in on Le Bossu ("Batman and Robin are dead!"). Mindblown.

has morrison said how many issues he intends to do with this?

Only 12 is confirmed so far. Four 3-issue arcs.

EyesWideOpen

08-29-2009, 02:31 PM

I liked Batman and Robin #3 but it was my least favorite of the first three issues. I enjoyed almost every other Bat book I read in the last two weeks more. Detective Comics #856, Batgirl #1, Outsiders #21, Gotham City Sirens #3, Batman: Streets of Gotham #3 (besides as number8 mentioned that Nguyen drew Damien as Tim).

bac0n

08-31-2009, 02:25 PM

Disney buys Marvel (http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/?postversion=2009083109).

Uh oh.

ledfloyd

08-31-2009, 03:12 PM

Disney buys Marvel (http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/?postversion=2009083109).

Uh oh.

i'm praying they take the hands off Pixar approach. but i remember Miramax having trouble releasing things like Dogma because of Disney-ownership and i worry about books like Criminal.

D_Davis

08-31-2009, 05:39 PM

I want to see Dr. Strange in the next Kingdom Hearts game.

Acapelli

08-31-2009, 06:05 PM

i'm praying they take the hands off Pixar approach. but i remember Miramax having trouble releasing things like Dogma because of Disney-ownership and i worry about books like Criminal.
doesn't pixar pretty much run disney now anyway?

megladon8

08-31-2009, 06:23 PM

Well I guess Garth Ennis will be out of Marvel pretty soon.

ledfloyd

08-31-2009, 06:44 PM

i'm 10 issues into promethea, and it would be hard for me to say this isn't alan moore's best work. of course, he has 22 issues to make me take that back.

also, it seems to me bill willingham when conceiving fables thought to himself, hmm... let's blend league of extraordinary gentlemen with promethea.

megladon8

08-31-2009, 06:46 PM

"Fables" > most of what Moore has done.

Purely my opinion, of course :)

Acapelli

08-31-2009, 07:00 PM

"Fables" > most of what Moore has done.

Purely my opinion, of course :)
so disappointed that it pretty much blows now

megladon8

08-31-2009, 07:03 PM

so disappointed that it pretty much blows now

I haven't read anything past volume 10.

And everything there was of varying degrees of "great" to "flipping amazing".

Acapelli

08-31-2009, 07:49 PM

not disagreeing with you, used to be one of my favorite series, if not my favorite series.

now i can barely will myself to read the new scans (since i dropped the book because of aformentioned shittiness)

number8

08-31-2009, 08:07 PM

Sometimes I wonder why I still buy Fables. I really don't enjoy it as much anymore. I really should've dropped it when it began that insipid crossover.

number8

08-31-2009, 08:12 PM

About the Disney acquisition, I don't think this changes anything.

Sycophant

08-31-2009, 08:14 PM

The only thing that will be really interesting about the acquisition is when Marvel's contract with movie studios is up.

ledfloyd

08-31-2009, 08:16 PM

by the time the war was over in fables i was completely exhausted and stopped reading it.

like it or no, it's hard to deny it's a combination of the ideas in promethea and league. which, i would be remiss not to say are explored to some degree in sandman.

number8

08-31-2009, 08:19 PM

The only thing that will be really interesting about the acquisition is when Marvel's contract with movie studios is up.

From what I understand, the deal with Fox will never expire as long as they keep making X-Men movies every 5 years.

Ivan Drago

09-01-2009, 01:25 AM

About the Disney acquisition, I don't think this changes anything.

As long as Disney doesn't tamper with the comics and movies Marvel makes, I'm okay with it.

From what I understand, the deal with Fox will never expire as long as they keep making X-Men movies every 5 years.

Would Deadpool be a part of the X-Men? Better for that movie to be made under Fox than Disney.

number8

09-01-2009, 01:30 AM

As long as Disney leaves the stuff Marvel makes alone, I'm okay with it.

I don't know why anyone would think they would, really.

number8

09-01-2009, 01:34 AM

Would Deadpool be a part of the X-Men? Better for that movie to be made under Fox than Disney.

Yeah, it's considered a spin-off. Basically, movies in the X-Men universe like Magneto Origins and X-Men: First Class are included. So it's not necessarily X-4 that they have to make. It's safe to say that Fox will have the X-Men for at least the next two decades. They're gonna milk it dry with Wolverine 2, Deadpool, X4, Wolverine 3, Deadpool 2...

But I am interested in how the Disney acquisition would affect Fox's ability to use the lesser-known mutants. I don't know if their contract stipulates that they get to use the entire X-Men library. Can they, like, use Quiksilver and Scarlet Witch in Magneto? I don't know.

Ivan Drago

09-01-2009, 02:33 AM

I don't know why anyone would think they would, really.

I think the die-hard comic fans are thinking they would make the Spider-Man, X-Men, etc. stories more geared towards a younger audience rather than how they are now. As an example, would you still see the Green Goblin impaled by his own glider at the end of the first Spider-Man movie if Disney owned Marvel at that time? I know it's from the comics, but even so that's pushing it.

number8

09-01-2009, 02:40 AM

Of course. Why wouldn't they? Have people forgotten the kind of material presented in Disney's live-action PG-13 movies? Hell, off the top of my head, Race to Witch Mountain had a gruesome death scene for its villain. And that was PG. I doubt a Spider-man movie could be more violent than Pirates of the Caribbean.

Sycophant

09-01-2009, 02:41 AM

Die-hard fans are thinking the kind of paranoid nonsene fans are always thinking, because they're kind of stupid.

Fixed.

number8

09-02-2009, 03:56 AM

Hey guys, the Astro Boy episode that Pluto is based on is on Hulu.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/92724/astro-boy-1980-the-greatest-robot-in-the-world-part-1

number8

09-02-2009, 05:16 AM

*MASSIVE SPIT TAKE*

John Lasseter met with Marvel last week about a possible team-up between Marvel and Pixar and got "pretty excited, pretty fast." They say there's definitely an opportunity there.

Ezee E

09-02-2009, 10:58 AM

See. We immediatley thought of the bad things that could come out of Disney/Marvel, and not the perfect things.

EyesWideOpen

09-03-2009, 07:40 AM

After hearing good things from a few people I decided to give dcbservice a shot. If people don't know it's an online comic subscription service. I can't believe the discounts they have on their books. I went through and picked all the books I would buy for the weeks of 9/23 - 10/28 and the price I would have paid if I would have bought them at my local comic book shop would be $232 including tax. My total through dcbservice.com came out to $137 and that's including shipping and the extra $6 I spent to have my comics shipped every two weeks instead of every month.

I think I can deal with waiting an extra week to get my books if it saves me $100 a month.

megladon8

09-03-2009, 05:29 PM

I wish I had purchased a copy of "Batman Venom" when it was regularly available for $10 to $12.

Now even used copies of the trade are running for upwards of $85.

EyesWideOpen

09-03-2009, 06:06 PM

I wish I had purchased a copy of "Batman Venom" when it was regularly available for $10 to $12.

Now even used copies of the trade are running for upwards of $85.

I own the single issues that are collected in Venom (Legends of the Dark Knight #16-20) and I got all 4 for $2.00. So if you just want the story then I'd recommend looking around for the singles.

number8

09-03-2009, 06:46 PM

I don't think that was a very good arc.

number8

09-03-2009, 06:59 PM

megladon8

09-03-2009, 07:17 PM

I don't think that was a very good arc.

You don't think anything is good unless it's written by Ennis, Moore or Brubaker.

:P

EyesWideOpen

09-03-2009, 07:56 PM

It would be 2 extra weeks, no? Since shipping would take 7-10 days.

Still, yeah, I've heard excellent things. I'm thinking of doing that when I move next. I just hope the floppies don't arrive damaged, which is what I always hear with Marvel's subscription service.

Yeah, I meant that I would get a box every two weeks once it caught up. The books will be boxed so I don't see why they should arrive damaged. I buy back issues online almost weekly and never have them arrive damaged.

number8

09-03-2009, 08:15 PM

You don't think anything is good unless it's written by Ennis, Moore or Brubaker.

:P

My new pet love is Joshua Dysart.

number8

09-03-2009, 08:16 PM

A couple of years ago when Legends ended I downloaded a torrent that has the entire run. I spent like 2 months reading all of them. It was nuts. I remember not liking Venom.

megladon8

09-03-2009, 08:41 PM

I personally think "Legends of the Dark Knight" is one of the best Batman titles ever printed.

I have many of them in singles. None of the "Batman: Venom" run, though :sad:

Ivan Drago

09-03-2009, 09:06 PM

See. We immediatley thought of the bad things that could come out of Disney/Marvel, and not the perfect things.

Yup. I'd be interested in seeing Hulk as a Pixar movie.

But like I said, as long as Disney doesn't tamper with Marvel's stuff (and ItsJustSomeRandomGuy is still allowed to make his Marvel/DC videos), I'm okay with it.

megladon8

09-03-2009, 09:09 PM

It's unfortunate that 20th Century Fox pretty much owns the rights to "X-Men" indefinitely.

I think a Pixar "X-Men" movie could be freaking awesome.

ledfloyd

09-03-2009, 10:04 PM

i could see a pixar runaways being fucking great.

EyesWideOpen

09-04-2009, 12:10 AM

Catching up on my huge backlist of trades and today read Fables Vol. 12 (more Fables goodness) and Punisher: The Resurrection of Ma Gnucci (which i was hesistant about at first but after reading it and how they handled the resurrection it turned out pretty good).

I also read 20th Century Boys Vol. 4 which came out last week and while I'd say it's my least favorite volume so far it still has me interested in where the story is going.

bac0n

09-04-2009, 09:15 PM

Acapelli

09-04-2009, 10:37 PM

bought the filth today

excited to read it

number8

09-04-2009, 11:08 PM

So, about this dcbservice site, something I couldn't need to figure out on my own: can you just select a comic, say, I dunno, Green Lantern and say "send it to me every month" and they'll send the latest and greatest to you every month until you say stop, or do you need to go to the website every month and order specific issues? The latter would sorta defeat the purpose of the site in my eyes.

You can have a pull list, and on your profile it will show you the new issues of a certain comic out that month, which you can then put to your cart and order.

The set-up is not a subscription, but like a regular comic book store, where you can have them save you comics to your box, but then choose not to buy it. This is helpful when, say, a run is interrupted by a fill-in issue and you don't want it. I prefer doing it this way than having them charge/send me stuff automatically, in case I'm in a tight spot or I forget to cancel a comic I don't like anymore.

EyesWideOpen

09-05-2009, 07:48 PM

It's basically just a list of the Previews catalog that comes out every month and then you pick and choose what you want to buy from it and you place your order.

megladon8

09-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Read half of Osamu Tezuka's "MW" today in one sitting.

What a book.

Sycophant

09-08-2009, 07:53 PM

After trying to savor most of Pluto until I get volumes 4 and 5 in a few weeks here, I blew through volume 3 (and part of volume 2) yesterday afternoon. May have to get some more Urasawa to tide me over between future releases, since the series won't wrap until Spring of next year.

Ivan Drago

09-09-2009, 04:56 AM

Finished reading Kim Deitch's Boulevard of Broken Dreams for this comic book class I'm taking right now.

A complete mindfuck, but I enjoyed it a lot.

Grouchy

09-09-2009, 06:12 PM

So I bought Superman: The Man of Steel Vol. 1. It has the six-issue series that rebooted Superman after Crisis. Already read all those comics, but I love them with a vengeance and think of this period as the best incarnation of Superman on paper - the other great moment for the character being the Bruce Timm TV show. One thing that struck me was that, in the prologue, John Byrne reveals that, as a kid, it took him years to figure out Superman had an "S" on his chest. He just thought it was a weird symbol and he drew the blanks instead of the letter - like two fish swimming in opposite directions. The reason I loved this comment? It mirrors, word by word, my own experience reading and drawing Superman as a young 'un.

I also bought and read the John Constantine TPB Damnation's Flame. Badass storyline, reminds me that I should seek out more Constantine in order to get all the references and secondary characters. Garth Ennis is a fucking God, and I think this arc foreshadows a lot of key elements of the entire Preacher series, about finding America and the truth behind the myth. The added stories about John's friends and faked death are also cool.

number8

09-09-2009, 07:22 PM

Heh, goodbye DC Comics, hello DC Entertainment.

http://vertigo.blog.dccomics.com/2009/09/09/warner-bros-creates-dc-entertainment/

Paul Levitz stepping down. Woot. DiDio still around, but probably not for long.

Sycophant

09-09-2009, 07:28 PM

So, recommendations? Should I prioritize Urasawa's Monster or 20th Century Boys?

ledfloyd

09-09-2009, 10:09 PM

am i the only one that's kind of missing all star batman and robin?

number8

09-10-2009, 12:11 AM

So, recommendations? Should I prioritize Urasawa's Monster or 20th Century Boys?

Monster.

Sycophant

09-10-2009, 01:12 AM

Monster.

Thanks! I just kinda needed someone to step in and make the decision for me.

Acapelli

09-10-2009, 05:57 AM

So I bought Superman: The Man of Steel Vol. 1. It has the six-issue series that rebooted Superman after Crisis. Already read all those comics, but I love them with a vengeance and think of this period as the best incarnation of Superman on paper - the other great moment for the character being the Bruce Timm TV show. One thing that struck me was that, in the prologue, John Byrne reveals that, as a kid, it took him years to figure out Superman had an "S" on his chest. He just thought it was a weird symbol and he drew the blanks instead of the letter - like two fish swimming in opposite directions. The reason I loved this comment? It mirrors, word by word, my own experience reading and drawing Superman as a young 'un.
I really like geoff johns run on action comics and am really looking to his 'secret origin' arc. and it goes without saying that grant morrison's all-star superman is pretty much a definitive take. he just has an excellent grasp on the character. there's a scene near the end of the final issue of final crisis that's one of my favorite moments of the series

there's a conversation between two monitors after superman has pretty much saved the world. one of the monitor's asks what superman had wished on the miracle machine. the other responds, "he's superman. he only wished the best for all of us...he wished for a happy ending"
just perfect

Grouchy

09-10-2009, 04:38 PM

I really like geoff johns run on action comics and am really looking to his 'secret origin' arc. and it goes without saying that grant morrison's all-star superman is pretty much a definitive take. he just has an excellent grasp on the character. there's a scene near the end of the final issue of final crisis that's one of my favorite moments of the series

there's a conversation between two monitors after superman has pretty much saved the world. one of the monitor's asks what superman had wished on the miracle machine. the other responds, "he's superman. he only wished the best for all of us...he wished for a happy ending"
just perfect
Well, I have to admit I still haven't read All-Star Superman. Really want to, anyhow.

megladon8

09-11-2009, 07:48 PM

ledfloyd

09-11-2009, 08:22 PM

club of heroes!

Acapelli

09-11-2009, 10:53 PM

Cameron Stewart will be the new artist on "Batman & Robin" starting with issue #7 this December.

Here's his cover art for that issue...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5880/batmanandrobin200909110.jpg
omg

:orgasm:

Kurosawa Fan

09-11-2009, 11:57 PM

megladon8

09-12-2009, 12:10 AM

Yeah, I have to say I don't like it much either.

Acapelli

09-12-2009, 12:20 AM

pfft, you guys don't know what you're talking about

Sycophant

09-12-2009, 02:08 AM

That is the stupidest-looking motorcycle I've ever seen.

Acapelli

09-12-2009, 04:07 AM

his art in seaguy and manhattan guardian is amazing. i can't wait to see what weird stuff morrison has him draw for his arc

Acapelli

09-12-2009, 04:09 AM

also the knightbike is awesome. if of course squire is gonna ride a motorcycle with a horse's head on it

Acapelli

09-12-2009, 04:15 AM

and we're getting frazer irving after cameron stewart too. phillip tan's arc can't be over soon enough

number8

09-12-2009, 07:39 AM

I'm a big fan of Cameron Stewart's art. He reminds me of Clowes. The news made me happy indeed.

(Though quite frankly I'd rather have Frank Quitely for the whole thing)

ledfloyd

09-12-2009, 09:11 AM

i love stewart and clowes but i don't see the comparison at all.

number8

09-12-2009, 09:38 AM

I find their framing and sequential action very similar.

ledfloyd

09-12-2009, 06:55 PM

I find their framing and sequential action very similar.
perhaps. i assumed you were comparing their style, the way they draw.

Sycophant

09-14-2009, 03:02 AM

I don't know if this is exactly where on Match Cut this belongs, but Peanuts is one of the best things that has ever existed ever.

EyesWideOpen

09-14-2009, 03:05 AM

I don't know if this is exactly where on Match Cut this belongs, but Peanuts is one of the best things that has ever existed ever.

http://www.match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=2196

Sycophant

09-14-2009, 03:16 AM

http://www.match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=2196

You have no soul.

megladon8

09-14-2009, 04:17 AM

I don't know if this is exactly where on Match Cut this belongs, but Peanuts is one of the best things that has ever existed ever.

I would agree with this completely.

Saya

09-17-2009, 07:46 PM

Spidey converts to islam:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2887825007_b0fb24f908_o.jpg

number8

09-20-2009, 03:35 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/volksjager/scansdaliy/DC-260-79F21A804-1.jpg

EyesWideOpen

09-20-2009, 10:58 PM

My LCS owner told me I was the only person with Batman: The Brave and the Bold on their pull list.

Ivan Drago

09-21-2009, 02:24 AM

My LCS owner told me I was the only person with Batman: The Brave and the Bold on their pull list.

Is that show any good? I'm thinking about watching it.

And I'm currently reading Berlin: City of Stones - Book One for my comic book class. I'm liking it a lot so far.

number8

09-22-2009, 12:09 AM

Behold... FRANKENCASTLE!

http://i.newsarama.com/marvelnew/dec09/88_punisher_12.jpg

Acapelli

09-22-2009, 12:19 AM

i've said this before, but i really like remender's punisher

ledfloyd

09-25-2009, 04:08 AM

i'm through 4 trades of promethea, and unless the last trade completely shits the bed i have a new favorite comic ever.

EyesWideOpen

09-25-2009, 12:19 PM

i've said this before, but i really like remender's punisher

I didn't like the first issue so I didn't buy anymore but after hearing Remender talk about the book on some podcasts I decided to give it another shot and it's been great. I went back and bought all the issues so far.

ledfloyd

09-25-2009, 01:38 PM

i'm through 4 trades of promethea, and unless the last trade completely shits the bed i have a new favorite comic ever.
i'm not entirely sure i understood issue 31, but i'm pretty sure this is the best thing moore has ever done. it's twice as good as watchmen.

megladon8

09-25-2009, 01:42 PM

Jeez, EWO...one bad issue and you strike the book from your pick-up list?

You're hardcore, dude.

EyesWideOpen

09-26-2009, 12:49 AM

Jeez, EWO...one bad issue and you strike the book from your pick-up list?

You're hardcore, dude.

If it would have been one bad issue in the middle of a run then of course I wouldn't have dropped it but it was the first issue of a new series with a writer I don't have a history with and I really didn't like the issue so I didn't buy anymore.

megladon8

09-26-2009, 12:56 AM

I generally give a book three issues to win me over.

Acapelli

09-26-2009, 12:56 AM

I didn't like the first issue so I didn't buy anymore but after hearing Remender talk about the book on some podcasts I decided to give it another shot and it's been great. I went back and bought all the issues so far.
i really wish opena was able to stay on the book. i even checked out the new moon knight book because he was on it

number8

09-26-2009, 01:53 AM

I generally don't have $12 to waste like that.

All the greats can capture an interest in one issue. If they don't, that means they don't understand the medium they're writing for, or they do but they're not very good at it. All the new series I'm following recently had fantastic first issues.

megladon8

09-26-2009, 02:01 AM

Don't you read all your comics online?

number8

09-26-2009, 02:07 AM

What?

megladon8

09-26-2009, 02:26 AM

What?

I thought you downloaded all your comics.

You've talked about it before. And since you often post entire pages from comics, it kind of made sense.

Forgive me if I'm wrong.

number8

09-26-2009, 05:42 AM

That's a terrific leap to make... Because I said I've downloaded some comics, therefore I've stopped buying comics entirely. And no, that's not where the pages I post come from. I read tons of comic blogs, and they post excerpts.

Must've missed my posts bitching about people who wait for trades and don't support a new title by buying them monthly.

megladon8

09-26-2009, 04:19 PM

Well, like I said, I apologize.

I got the impression you did most/all of your comic reading online.

bac0n

09-26-2009, 04:36 PM

So, I got Pluto 001 yesterday. And yeah, all I gotta say is WOW.

EyesWideOpen

09-26-2009, 07:10 PM

Did anyone pick up Spider-Woman #1? Holy shit the art is amazing. In a week where a new issue of Detective Comics came out and Spider-Woman is the best looking book says something.

Sycophant

09-29-2009, 06:39 PM

I can't believe I have to wait almost two months for Pluto volume 6.

megladon8

09-30-2009, 05:10 PM

Has anyone here read Brain K. Vaughan's Ex Machina? If so, how is it?

It's awesome.

It becomes slightly less awesome around like volume 7 or 8 of the trades, but still a pretty good read.

Those first 6 volumes though...wowza. Great stuff.

EyesWideOpen

10-01-2009, 01:05 AM

I love Ex Machina, it did hit a kind of lull during the middle but it's really picked up lately (only 5 more issues to go before it's done).

A reccomendation for anyone heading to the comicbook store today pick up Shang-Chi: Master of Kung Fu One Shot. I decided to pick it up when I saw the whole issue was in black and white which marvel rarely does and I don't know a ton about the character but he's always interested me and it was awesome. I expected it to have some serious martial arts stories which it does but the first story by Jonathan Hickman is the funniest/awesome story I've read in a Marvel book in awhile. It's like a funnier version of Speed Racer with Deadpool mixed in.

ledfloyd

10-01-2009, 01:07 AM

Has anyone here read Brain K. Vaughan's Ex Machina? If so, how is it?
it is the best comic on the stands. walking dead and criminal are the only things in the same league.

Ivan Drago

10-01-2009, 02:45 AM

Had to read an excerpt of Maus for class the other day. Loved what I read, and I'm actively searching for the whole graphic novel everywhere I can.

EDIT: Holy shit! The issue of Amazing Spider-Man where Gwen Stacy dies is on my syllabus! :head explodes:

number8

10-01-2009, 03:44 AM

For some reason I was really tickled that you spoiler texted that.

number8

10-01-2009, 09:26 AM

Wow, Spider-Man comics are seriously fucked up right now.

Acapelli

10-01-2009, 01:08 PM

Wow, Spider-Man comics are seriously fucked up right now.
chameleon is really fucking creepy

Acapelli

10-01-2009, 01:22 PM

and a friend of mine who is an assitant editor at marvel told me that it's supposed to get much worse for pete/spidey in the coming months

number8

10-01-2009, 08:58 PM

chameleon is really fucking creepy

Yes, but I'm actually referring to Peter Parker's "let's have sex but promise me you won't look at my face" one night stand with Black Cat.

Friendly neighborhood creep.

number8

10-01-2009, 09:03 PM

What I find really odd about all this (aside from creepy no-looking sex and Chameleon rape) is that the reason Quesada annulled the marriage was to make Peter Parker more accessible to kids, so he'll be single and youthful. But their idea of doing this is to turn him into a Seth Rogen character. It's kind of absurd.

Acapelli

10-02-2009, 01:06 AM

i read something that seemed pretty accurate. pete's a handsome (albeit nerdy and awkward) photgrapher who used to date a supermodel living in new york city. comparing him to seth rogen is doing him a bit of a disservice. in the real world he'd probably be getting laid on the regular

Acapelli

10-02-2009, 01:06 AM

and the rape thing is stupid

number8

10-06-2009, 07:38 AM

Did the final issue of Y: The Last Man already come out?

Yes. 2 years ago.

number8

10-08-2009, 08:51 AM

I almost keeled over laughing.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2009/10/statusspiderman.jpg

Ivan Drago

10-09-2009, 09:42 PM

^ ROTFLMFAO :lol:

Wow, Spider-Man comics are seriously fucked up right now.

And people said Disney would "kiddify" Marvel. lolwut

and the rape thing is stupid

Spider-Man + Rape = :eek: What happened?

number8

10-09-2009, 10:42 PM

Spider-Man + Rape = :eek: What happened?

Peter got drunk one night and had sex with his roommate, then freaked out the next morning and made her uber mad because she thought he has feelings for her.

Then Chameleon, planning to assassinate the mayor, decides to impersonate Peter Parker since he's the mayor's personal photographer (without knowing that he's Spidey). Chameleon senses there's something between Peter and the roomie so he has sex with her as Peter Parker.

Roomie thinks that means they're together now. Peter doesn't know WTF happened and freaked out again.

It's just icky all around.

And then they follow it up with Spidey and Black Cat breaking into a hotel room to have sex WITH PETER TAKING OFF HIS MASK BUT INSISTING THAT SHE CAN'T LOOK AT HIS FACE THE WHOLE TIME. I don't even -- fucking -- I mean...

bac0n

10-10-2009, 06:53 PM

That sounds like the stupidest thing ever. Is Marvel now populating its writing staff with WWE castoffs?

lovejuice

10-11-2009, 11:51 AM

Chameleon senses there's something between Peter and the roomie so he has sex with her as Peter Parker.
that...um...doesn't sound like rape to me.

ledfloyd

10-11-2009, 01:46 PM

that...um...doesn't sound like rape to me.
it is. he's pretending to be someone else, she wouldn't have sex with him if she knew who he was. there's not really an equivalent to it in the real world. maybe date rape.

number8

10-11-2009, 09:20 PM

ledfloyd

10-11-2009, 09:26 PM

Yes, there is an equivalent. I just read a news article about a month ago about a guy who pretended to be his twin brother so he can have sex with his girlfriend. She figured it out mid-coitus and freaked the fuck out. That's rape.
ah, that had not occured to me. that would be fucked up. she's going to always be wondering if she has the right brother now. jesus.

Ivan Drago

10-13-2009, 01:06 AM

Peter got drunk one night and had sex with his roommate, then freaked out the next morning and made her uber mad because she thought he has feelings for her.

Then Chameleon, planning to assassinate the mayor, decides to impersonate Peter Parker since he's the mayor's personal photographer (without knowing that he's Spidey). Chameleon senses there's something between Peter and the roomie so he has sex with her as Peter Parker.

Roomie thinks that means they're together now. Peter doesn't know WTF happened and freaked out again.

It's just icky all around.

And then they follow it up with Spidey and Black Cat breaking into a hotel room to have sex WITH PETER TAKING OFF HIS MASK BUT INSISTING THAT SHE CAN'T LOOK AT HIS FACE THE WHOLE TIME. I don't even -- fucking -- I mean...

:eek:

Does. Not. Compute.

lovejuice

10-13-2009, 02:26 PM

i google peter parker's roommate, and imagine my disappointment that she is not the cute, scandinavian chick as in the movie. :sad:

Sycophant

10-19-2009, 06:44 AM

So, I picked up and read volume one of Naoki Urasawa's Monster tonight. This Urasawa guy is really, really effing good.

Sycophant

10-19-2009, 10:32 PM

I also read volume two. Then bought two more volumes today. Shit's rocking my shit.

number8

10-20-2009, 02:23 AM

By the way, SyFy just started airing the anime. Second episode tonight.

Sycophant

10-20-2009, 06:47 PM

Thanks for the tip! I'll probably hold off watching that till after I read the manga in its entirety.

bac0n

10-22-2009, 03:39 PM

FYI - the first DVD box set of Urosawa's Monster hits the shelves December 8th.

Acapelli

10-22-2009, 07:47 PM

just read the final issue of the world's most wanted arc of invincible iron man. i think it may be my favorite comic out now, it's at least my favorite marvel book

i was wondering what non-marvel/dc cape and non-cape comics (i'm including icon and vertigo imprints) people read here. this is what i've been picking up/have picked up

currently:
criminal/incognito (probably my favorite of the entire bunch)
rasl
war heroes
kick-ass
greek street
the unwritten
sweet tooth
mice templar (need to catch up)
fables (heard it's been getting better, i might get back on board)
underground (new jeff parker/steve lieber book)
terry moore's echo (pretty behind on this too)
buck rogers
the incredibles (the art has really declined for the ongoing from the family affair mini though)
absolution (thanks to 8's suggestion)
ignition city
powers
the boys/herogasm
days missing

just ended:
madman atomic comics
young liars
no hero

i think that's about it

EyesWideOpen

10-23-2009, 01:06 AM

Read in Trades:
Air
Astounding Wolf-Man
Battlefields
The Boys
DMZ
Echo
Fables
House of Mystery
Jack of Fables
Mouse Guard
Rasl
Scalped

Read in Hardcovers:
Marvel Oz Books
The Walking Dead

Read in Single Issues:
Criminal/Incognito
Ex Machina
Fell (when it comes out)
Irreedeemable
Kick-Ass
Sweet Tooth
Umbrella Academy
The Unwritten
War Heroes (when it comes out)

Acapelli

10-31-2009, 07:29 PM

whoa, punisher the list

number8

10-31-2009, 10:08 PM

whoa, punisher the list

I'm of two minds.

number8

11-02-2009, 09:08 PM

Oh, Warren Ellis.

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2565/ucarmorwars02page007.jpg

Grouchy

11-02-2009, 11:11 PM

So I bought two TPBs this weekend.

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The first one, Concrete: Killer Smile, is fucking amazing. I had never read Concrete before and I have to say it's a refreshing character, and that Paul Chadwick is a master of the medium. The introduction by Frank Miller says something about the storyline that's indeed very true: it's one of the few examples of excruciating, Hitchcock-like suspense in superhero (or at least fantasy-related) comic books. The artwork is excellent and it was unsurprising to see that Chadwick had used photographic storyboards.

The other one was Doom Patrol: Crawling from the Wreckage, the first of the Morrison run and also a title I had never read before. Morrison weirdness, with my favorite part being the two Red Jack issues. I assume the series gets stranger and better from here, but it was a bit less of a surprise for me than the Concrete because I already know what Morrison weirdness is made of. The artwork could have been better.

number8

11-02-2009, 11:16 PM

I assume the series gets stranger and better from here...

You are psychic.

Winston*

11-02-2009, 11:20 PM

http://www.daveexmachina.com/gfx/2008/bh1.jpg

Grouchy

11-03-2009, 12:05 AM

Hahahah awesome.

BuffaloWilder

11-03-2009, 03:55 AM

Ultimate X-Men is a perfect tool to line your toilet with. Or, your windows, if you're feeling festive.

dreamdead

11-03-2009, 12:36 PM

Finished the first three books of Moore and Williams's Promethea. I like the meta-quality about it as it keeps digging further and further into the nature of story myths and their role in culture. Of course, it does feel rather didactic in terms of explicating Moore's thoughts on the matter and so it can start feeling too controlled as a narrative, but the experiments with color and pictorial design are amazing to look at. I am ready for things to get weirder and more meta...

ledfloyd

11-03-2009, 09:05 PM

number8

11-05-2009, 08:07 AM

I wonder how you would put the "poster" issue into a paperback collection.

number8

11-06-2009, 12:11 AM

Posting this here instead of the Onion thread.

WASHINGTON—At a press conference Monday, President Obama announced that he had appointed legendary comic book writer Alan Moore as the official biographer of his time in the White House. "As evidenced by his epic run on Swamp Thing #21–64, Moore's deft hand with both sociopolitical commentary and metaphysical violence makes him an ideal choice to chronicle my time in office," Obama said of the author of Watchmen and From Hell, whom he reportedly chose over others on a short list of potential biographers that included Warren Ellis, Grant Morrison, and Bob Woodward. "I look forward to seeing the kinds of subplots he will surely weave throughout the main narrative of my presidency, and how he'll tie them all back together at the end in a way that just elevates the thing to a whole other level. God, that guy is the master." Although Obama has not yet settled on a publisher for his White House biography, he is reportedly leaning toward DC's Vertigo imprint for its creator-friendly ethos, high production values, and willingness to publish content for mature readers.

BuffaloWilder

11-06-2009, 02:51 AM

That would be awesome.

bac0n

11-06-2009, 02:54 PM

Dude, he totally should have picked Geoff Johns, and spin Obama as a Blue Lantern.

*hides*

megladon8

11-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Dude, he totally should have picked Geoff Johns, and spin Obama as a Blue Lantern.

*hides*

Screw that.

Obama's pseudonym is John Stewart.

He IS Green Lantern.

number8

11-07-2009, 12:58 AM

http://i36.tinypic.com/29payco.jpg

Ivan Drago

11-07-2009, 06:08 PM

Finished reading the Acme Novelty Library #19 for my class.

Chris Ware's been on the syllabus a lot, and while I do love what I've read from him, goddamn, it's depressing.

number8

11-12-2009, 06:14 PM

This is the funniest thing ever:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2009/11/12/stephenie-meyer-comic-book-twilight/

megladon8

11-13-2009, 12:53 AM

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6266/weirdj.jpg

Nothing spoilerific, just a huge image.

EyesWideOpen

11-14-2009, 04:11 PM

I read two books yesterday that have been sitting on my shelf for awhile (Wanted & Magneto: Testament).

Wanted is awful. I like Millar and this is the worst book he's ever written. The part where Wesley is narrating and he says "my african american boss" and then later when a character asks him if he wants to go back working for that "african american boss". Seriously who the fuck talks like that?

The actual concept of the story is good, it just fails in the execution and writing.

To the other extreme Magneto: Testament is fantastic. It's a definitive origin story for Magneto showcasing his time growing up during the holocaust. There are no mentions of "Magneto" or "superpowers" it's just a great human suffering tale which uses real events and even has footnotes and an indepth teacher's guide in the back of the book for teachers who want to use the book as part of their Holocaust curriculum. My favorite thing Greg Pak has ever written.

Grouchy

11-14-2009, 05:11 PM

Wanted is awful. I like Millar and this is the worst book he's ever written. The part where Wesley is narrating and he says "my african american boss" and then later when a character asks him if he wants to go back working for that "african american boss". Seriously who the fuck talks like that?

The actual concept of the story is good, it just fails in the execution and writing.
100% agreed. I regret blind-buying it.

EyesWideOpen

11-14-2009, 06:21 PM

100% agreed. I regret blind-buying it.

I had blind bought it also.

lovejuice

11-15-2009, 12:18 PM

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6266/weirdj.jpg

while they're good overall, the last two panels don't quite live up to the potential. everyone's different and unique in his/her own way...hmmm....i guess that's fine, but previous panels suggest something deep than this.

ledfloyd

11-16-2009, 08:15 AM

so wait, despising millar based solely on having read wanted might not be justified?

EyesWideOpen

11-16-2009, 11:39 AM

so wait, despising millar based solely on having read wanted might not be justified?

Despising any creator based solely on one work is usually not justified.

ledfloyd

11-16-2009, 12:00 PM

Despising any creator based solely on one work is usually not justified.
well yeah, i just reeeeeally didn't like wanted so i've avoided most of his other books.

Grouchy

11-16-2009, 05:48 PM

well yeah, i just reeeeeally didn't like wanted so i've avoided most of his other books.
Don't avoid Superman: Red Son. That's a good comic.

number8

11-16-2009, 06:21 PM

Wanted is one of Millar's better books. At least the premise suits his idiotic writing.

BuffaloWilder

11-17-2009, 04:31 AM

You should all read the first six issues of Ultimate X-Men. Your brain will melt at how EXTREEEEEM it all is.

Wolverine's Magneto's assassin, and all that. The Blackbird is some sort of alien jet with transportation beams. Magneto's a baby-eating cult leader. Muscles, muscles bulging everywhere! Etc.

And, taking that whole "Charles Xavier - Martin Luther King, Magneto - Malcolm X" analogy that every writer for the last twenty years has taken to heart into account, Mark Millar really, really dislikes Malcolm X.

number8

11-17-2009, 04:54 AM

I don't think Millar subscribed to that analogy, though, unless he thinks that MLK was a creepy asshole, which is what his Xavier was.

Ezee E

11-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Why is it that when they "MLK" Professor X, they basically just pussify him instead. I don't think that's right.

dreamdead

11-24-2009, 03:51 PM

Just got in Moore and Gebbie's Lost Girls. I expect to be generally disturbed and freaked out for the next few days as I go through it.

In other news, the AVclub posted their take on the best comics of this decade (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-comics-of-the-00s,35713/). Very happy to see Promethea there, since it mutates quickly from something interesting to something magical.

number8

11-24-2009, 04:16 PM

Great list, but in retrospect my opinion of Y has gone down.

ledfloyd

11-24-2009, 09:34 PM

promethea is probably my favorite comic of the decade. though chris ware and daniel clowes work is always up there. daredevil, criminal and y mentions make me happy. lotta stuff on there i've been meaning to get around to like fun home, black hole, new frontier and the goon.

EyesWideOpen

11-25-2009, 12:12 AM

Great pick on Asterios Polyp. It's probably the best graphic novel I've read in the last 5 years.

megladon8

11-25-2009, 12:35 AM

The list is OK...it's missing some big ones.

Ivan Drago

11-25-2009, 04:34 AM

Nice to see the EC Comics and Krazy Kat collections. What I read in class of both have been cool.

lovejuice

11-25-2009, 07:16 AM

never understood the appeal for fun home.

dreamdead

11-25-2009, 07:44 PM

The list is OK...it's missing some big ones.

Such as?

I'm requesting Blankets, All-Star Superman, and Pyongyang: A Journey In North Korea from the library...

megladon8

11-26-2009, 12:41 AM

Such as?

I'm requesting Blankets, All-Star Superman, and Pyongyang: A Journey In North Korea from the library...

That "Astro City" is not included on there at all just makes no sense to me.

It's an incredible work. "Confession", "Tarnished Angel" and "Life in the Big City" are all top-notch examples of what can be done with superhero comics and the medium in general.

number8

11-26-2009, 12:50 AM

That's because Astro City started in the 90's. It's not a complete 2000's run. You're going by the trade dates.

EDIT: Actually, even the Confession trade was published in 99.

megladon8

11-26-2009, 01:59 AM

That's because Astro City started in the 90's. It's not a complete 2000's run. You're going by the trade dates.

EDIT: Actually, even the Confession trade was published in 99.

Ah, my mistake then.

I wasn't just going by the trade dates, I thought the singles were also 2000+.

Epic fail on my part.

Acapelli

11-26-2009, 02:11 AM

i'm still enjoying astro city a lot. the dark ages storyline has been great so far, but still not as good as the earliest stuff

number8

11-26-2009, 08:18 AM

Holy shit, JH Williams III does a great Dave Mazuchelli imitation.

dreamdead

11-26-2009, 12:18 PM

Finished Lost Girls. There's two or three really fascinating musings on the nature of pornography and the fictionality of representational pornography, mainly coming from the hotel owner, and the final page is a doozy of an inversion of sexuality, but the series largely ends up being an interesting but less than powerful reinvention of the central fairy tales. For all of Moore's talents, stuff like Promethea tackled issues of pornography more glibly but also managed a stronger endpoint.

Spaceman Spiff

11-27-2009, 01:51 AM

Just got in Moore and Gebbie's Lost Girls. I expect to be generally disturbed and freaked out for the next few days as I go through it.

One of his best. And not THAT disturbing. The controversy is over-the-top.

Actually... Moore ranked:

Brilliant:
1. From Hell
2. Watchmen
3. Lost Girls
Good:
4. V For Vendetta
5. Swamp Thing
Meh:
6. League of EG Vol 1
7. League of EG Vol 2

Acapelli

11-27-2009, 02:19 AM

Holy shit, JH Williams III does a great Dave Mazuchelli imitation.
yup

these past two issues of detective have been my favorite yet

ledfloyd

11-27-2009, 02:25 AM

Actually... Moore ranked:
read promethea.

number8

11-27-2009, 03:02 AM

I do not dare to rank the Moore.

I can only say that people should track down Miracleman and his run on Supreme for comparison. They're brilliant examples of how the same idea and the same writer can result in radically different things.

megladon8

11-27-2009, 04:14 AM

Moore ranked/rated:

Swamp Thing - 10
Top 10 - 9
Watchmen - 8
Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? - 7
From Hell - 7
Batman: The Killing Joke - 6.5
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - 6
V for Vendetta - 6
A Small Killing - 5
Judgment Day - 3

number8

11-27-2009, 04:54 AM

Bleh.

dreamdead

11-27-2009, 03:12 PM

Gonna work on Miracleman, From Hell, Swamp Thing, and Supreme here at some point early next year.

Moore:

Watchmen - 10
Promethea - 10
Batman: the Killing Joke - 7
V for Vendetta - 7
Judgment Day - 5
Lost Girls - 5
WildC.A.T.S run - 4

Grouchy

11-27-2009, 03:58 PM

I rate the Moore:

V for Vendetta - 10
Swamp Thing - 8
For the Man Who Has Everything - 9
Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? - 7
The Killing Joke - 10
Watchmen - 10
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - 10
Tom Strong - 9
Tomorrow Stories - 8

number8

11-27-2009, 09:32 PM

WildC.A.T.S run - 4

I wish you guys had read some of his Image stuff. It's just sad. His Spawn comics were fucking terrible. Not terrible by Moore standards, but just absolutely wretched. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he really didn't give a shit and just wrote them for money.

Which is why it was so great that he made fun of that period in comics in Supreme.

Spaceman Spiff

11-27-2009, 11:49 PM

read promethea.

I really want to. Is there an onibus already though? I really don't do TPBs anymore. Also really want to read Miracleman.

I totally forgot about the Killing Joke. That would probably be 4th, with Swamp Thing 5th and V 6th.

dreamdead, read From Hell as soon as possible. One of the greatest pieces of literature ever.

ledfloyd

11-28-2009, 04:41 AM

I really want to. Is there an onibus already though? I really don't do TPBs anymore. Also really want to read Miracleman.

I totally forgot about the Killing Joke. That would probably be 4th, with Swamp Thing 5th and V 6th.

dreamdead, read From Hell as soon as possible. One of the greatest pieces of literature ever.
i think they are publishing it in 'absolute' volumes, which are insanely expensive.

i really need to read from hell myself.

number8

11-28-2009, 04:53 AM

Warren Ellis—resident Alan Moore wannabe—considers it the best graphic novel ever written, if that means anything.

Spaceman Spiff

11-28-2009, 05:19 AM

Warren Ellis—resident Alan Moore wannabe—considers it the best graphic novel ever written, if that means anything.

It might be. If we're talking exclusively about novels and not strips (or series), then only Jimmy Corrigan or Like A Velvet Glove Cast in Iron run it close.

Spaceman Spiff

11-30-2009, 12:13 AM

Have any of you read any Dick Tracy? I'm looking at getting into the series, but don't know when to start.

Also, peak years for Peanuts? I picked up Vol. 2 (1953-4) yesterday, even though I prefer 60s Peanuts.

number8

11-30-2009, 03:35 AM

Have any of you read any Dick Tracy?

Only in Sunday papers.

Spaceman Spiff

11-30-2009, 04:42 AM

Only in Sunday papers.

Yay? Nay?

Grouchy

11-30-2009, 07:22 AM

Yay? Nay?
Very much yay.

Spaceman Spiff

11-30-2009, 04:00 PM

Very much yay.

Would you happen to know where to start? I don't want to start with the 30s stuff, if it only gets really awesome by the 40s.

Grouchy

11-30-2009, 07:58 PM

Would you happen to know where to start? I don't want to start with the 30s stuff, if it only gets really awesome by the 40s.
Hmmm... The very start of he series isn't that good, but it gets really awesome mid-'30s until the whole of the '40s and then it changes into a mixture of family sitcom and sci-fi with Tracy's marriage. I've never read the huge compilations, but when I studied comic-book art, my professor was a huge Chester Gould fan and lent us his (smaller) compilations that had one or two stories collected. So I probably never read a couple of consecutive years of the story. At its best, the strip is a tough police procedural where the best part is seeing what bizarre, sinister villain Gould is able to cook up next.

Grouchy

11-30-2009, 08:15 PM

Almost forgot I bought some comics.

Batgirl: Year One is quality, but the character of Batgirl is so Silver Age in nature that you can feel how hard the writers (Beatty and Dixon) are stretching things in order to make her believable for a modern age and not kill her off in the first two pages. That works against the story's potential somewhat. Still, it's a post-Crisis story that needed to be told, and this is a good way to do so - the artwork by Alvaro López is fucking excellent.

Deathstroke: Full Cycle is excellent stuff. Written by Marv Wolfman, this collects a one-shot issue of New Titans and the first five issues of the Deathstroke solo series. Wolfman's run on this and the Titans is some of the best written superhero stuff of the '80s, giving the X-Men a good run for their money. What's awesome about this series is that, given how relatively realistic Deathstroke is as a character, the stories can add several layers of drama and grit that sometimes make this story it play like an '80s action movie minus the cheese.

BuffaloWilder

11-30-2009, 08:42 PM

So, being on a Ninja Turtles bent of late, I've been busying myself trying to find a copy of their newly released omnibus collection, with the first eleven issues and the microseries all together. But, it's nowhere to be found. It was only released in July and it's already out of print. So, I emailed the publisher - or, someone at Mirage - a few days ago, and got this response:

Howdy Henry,

I'm afraid it has sold out already and thus is only available via the secondary collector's market. I'm sorry that you were unable to find a copy.

Peter Laird sold the TMNT to Nickelodeon and Mirage no longer has the right to publish TMNT graphic novels, so Mirage will not be able to reprint the book. Hopefully Nick will publish the series at some point in the future (or license someone to do so).

Cheers,
Dan

Eff.

BuffaloWilder

12-01-2009, 12:05 AM

No, wait - success! Mile High has it for twenty-seven. So, I shall order it and Michael Zulli's three issue run on the series - for a total of thirty, plus shipping.

Acapelli

12-03-2009, 09:19 PM

looks like we better get ready for steve rogers: director of s.h.i.e.l.d. (or whatever they'll have at the end of siege)

which i love by the way. so glad that bucky gets to keep the shield

number8

12-06-2009, 05:53 AM

Today I went to Borders and picked up Jonathan Hickman's The Nightly News. It is fantastic. I'm gonna go back tomorrow and buy Pax Romana.

EyesWideOpen

12-06-2009, 02:57 PM

Today I went to Borders and picked up Jonathan Hickman's The Nightly News. It is fantastic. I'm gonna go back tomorrow and buy Pax Romana.

I've been meaning to pick up some of his older stuff. He's writing a killer Fantastic Four right now.

Grouchy

12-06-2009, 09:17 PM

Picked up the first TPB collection of Justice League International. Good times.

number8

12-06-2009, 11:13 PM

Here's the most adorable page ever. I love the DCAU. Context: there's a baby everybody's after, including Ra's Al Ghul, so Batman thinks the only safe place to keep the baby is by his side as he swings around Gotham fighting crime and averting disasters (it's horrendously irresponsible, but whaddayagonnado?).

Batman breaks up a mugging/rape.

http://i34.tinypic.com/sl1avn.jpg

dreamdead

12-10-2009, 09:37 PM

I'm requesting Blankets, All-Star Superman, and Pyongyang: A Journey In North Korea from the library...

So...

All-Star Superman is a quick and engaging little story. It has frequent snapshots of marvelous pathos, such as #8 with its exploration of Bizarro-world and the one creature who has real consciousness. That issue, actually, generates most of my appreciation for the arc. Morrison there employs an obvious and nonetheless effective parallel into ideas of existential isolation and how one copes with that feeling, Superman and otherwise. And the one moment where the unknown Superman visits with Pa Kent was touching, too. The Luthor bits are less interesting after all of that.

Pyongyang: A Journey In North Korea is a sometimes slight but engaging travelogue. The attacks on NK's conformity, its regulations about pins and restrictions on tourists, create an interesting panorama. Few things are as uproarious as the gag in the North Korean museum, where slippers are a necessity, and where our narrator has his bit of unapologetic honesty. Yet, it really lacks a fully-defined central character and so when he isn't traveling, the interest wanes.

That leaves Blankets as the true revelation here. It's achingly beautiful, and hauntingly realized in its entrance into personality, growth, and the social restrictions that accompany adulthood. And while the central love story is definitely the key here, I found the last chapter, as Craig grapples with faith and memory, so much more resonant precisely because the episodes with Raina have drawn to a close. Memorable work, with several awe-inspiring panel designs, and definitively the most affected reading I've had since Promethea.

Grouchy

12-12-2009, 03:52 PM

I'm thinking of making my one Christmas present to myself a big Amazon comics haul:

All-Star Superman 1-2
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier
The Death of Superman
Batman and the Mad Monk

At first I wanted to order Dark Knight Returns instead of Mad Monk simply because I only have the old, single comics version in Spanish, but it seems a bit like a waste of money the more I think about it.

Opinions?

ledfloyd

12-12-2009, 04:23 PM

That leaves Blankets as the true revelation here. It's achingly beautiful, and hauntingly realized in its entrance into personality, growth, and the social restrictions that accompany adulthood. And while the central love story is definitely the key here, I found the last chapter, as Craig grapples with faith and memory, so much more resonant precisely because the episodes with Raina have drawn to a close. Memorable work, with several awe-inspiring panel designs, and definitively the most affected reading I've had since Promethea.
i had a feeling that would be up your alley. it is really powerful. and a quick effortless read for as long as it is.

Spaceman Spiff

12-12-2009, 04:32 PM

Stumbled upon Clowes' Mister Wonderful series that he's been doing for the New York Times. Good stuff.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/magazine/funnypagesClowes.html?_r=2

dreamdead

12-12-2009, 07:34 PM

i had a feeling that would be up your alley. it is really powerful. and a quick effortless read for as long as it is.

Yeah, this one is definitely resonating nicely. I think its tenderness just sets up the emotional payoff wonderfully, and the recurrent visits with Craig's brother give it added complexity, since these kinds of stories tend to ignore the familial dynamic. Might need to reread the final issue here again, as I like it so much.

Do we think there's anything truly symbolic about the song titles for chapters?

ledfloyd

12-12-2009, 11:59 PM

Do we think there's anything truly symbolic about the song titles for chapters?
i honestly don't even remember them. i guess i didn't put much thought into them?

Ivan Drago

12-16-2009, 02:52 AM

I'm hoping to get Maus I and Y: The Last Man Vol. 1 for Christmas. What I read of them in class this semester was great.

number8

12-17-2009, 05:17 AM

It's so weird that Ex Machina only has 3 issues left. It's basically the only comic BKV is writing now.

I remember years back sauntering over to the DC booth at Comic-Con and BKV was sitting there at the autograph table with literally no line in front of him. I decided to say hi and talked for about 10 minutes, after which I had to stop because someone else was standing behind me. I stopped our talk and asked the dude behind me to take a picture with me and BKV. He was nice.

With LOST ending next year, I hope he takes the time to start a new comic series.

Ivan Drago

12-18-2009, 01:55 AM

Woah, Ex Machina is ending? I read the first issue for class a week or so ago. I loved the concept, artwork, and the ending of the issue really hit me hard.

BuffaloWilder

12-24-2009, 08:04 AM

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7960/zulliturtles.png

Now, I'm kind of sad Zulli didn't get to do more stuff on the series.

number8

12-24-2009, 04:23 PM

Love his Shredder too.

http://tcplanet.thetechnodrome.com/MichaelZulli3.jpg

number8

12-25-2009, 08:52 AM

HAHAHAHAHA. HAHA. HA. HA.

Spent $350 on FedEx just to ship my comics collection alone to NY. Just the floppies, mind you, the trades and hardcovers are another big box entirely.

Hahahaha fuck this hobby.

bac0n

12-25-2009, 04:20 PM

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs166.snc3/19339_262870351608_621206608_4 761225_8151681_n.jpg

megladon8

12-25-2009, 04:42 PM

That's offensive.

I'm not religious, and I find it offensive that you'd presume I fall into one of those categories.

number8

12-25-2009, 05:32 PM

http://pics.livejournal.com/uadlika/pic/00082t40

Ezee E

12-25-2009, 06:08 PM

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs166.snc3/19339_262870351608_621206608_4 761225_8151681_n.jpg
No Ramadan? Psh.

Ivan Drago

12-26-2009, 10:53 PM

8 = YES. I love the comic itself.

number8

12-26-2009, 11:07 PM

8 = YES. I love the comic itself.

Best page.

http://pics.livejournal.com/uadlika/pic/000809be

number8

12-28-2009, 06:53 PM

Damn. (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/12/28/late-angouleme-founders-comics-collection-found-in-the-street/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+BleedingCoo l+(Bleeding+Cool+Comic+News+%2 6+Rumors)&utm_content=Google+Reader)

Grouchy

12-28-2009, 07:18 PM

number8

12-28-2009, 07:29 PM

I dunno, could be a very dumb landlord or something.

EyesWideOpen

01-09-2010, 05:18 PM

I don't remember if I had mentioned I was thinking of doing some comic binding through librarybinding.com.

Got my first batch back about a week ago:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KHGODrUO_78/SyQKmcnHs9I/AAAAAAAAEFk/Y4ZEW3Z-iIQ/s512/IMG_5182.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_KHGODrUO_78/SyQKPBEmhpI/AAAAAAAAEFc/iwSaZTNOqsc/s512/IMG_0008.JPG

The Shadowpact volume collects Day of Vengeance Infinite Crisis Special & Shadowpact #1-25.
The Punisher volume collects Force of Nature, Little Black Book, MAX X-Mas Special, Naked Kill and then #61-75 which is all the post Ennis Punisher MAX issues.

I was so pleased with how they turned out I immediately sent out three more volumes to be bound:

Deadenders #1-16
Wolverine (One-Shot's) 22 Wolverine One Shot issues that came out in the last two or so years
Wolverine (Mini's) The End, Logan, Manifest Destiny, Old Man Logan

number8

01-09-2010, 06:12 PM

Wow, how much are they?

EyesWideOpen

01-09-2010, 06:25 PM

Wow, how much are they?

$15 is the base price plus shipping (you can do media mail). The Shadowpact volume was just the basic no frills volume for $15 and the Punisher book cost an extra $4 for the cover stamp. They have lots of choices of colors and fonts you can use. It's recommended that you don't do more than 26 or so issues in a volume.

The main reason I chose to do it was that I almost never pull anything out of longboxes to read. I'm far more willing to read a tpb or hardcover off my shelf.
So I'm gonna to bind almost everything I really like that isn't likely to be collected.

I'm working on right now a few more volumes:

The Pulse #1-14, New Avengers Annual #1, and What If Jessica Jones Joined the Avengers.

Captain Britain & MI13 #1-15 and the Annual

Batman Adventures (Vol 1) I'll split it in two volumes. The first with #1-16, Annual #1 and Mad Love. The second volume with 17-36, Annual 2, and the Holiday Special.

number8

01-09-2010, 08:57 PM

It seems like a good idea for me to do to the short completed series. Make my own Omnibus/Absolute.

Acapelli

01-09-2010, 09:26 PM

Captain Britain & MI13 #1-15 and the Annual
i'm thinking of doing this now

Acapelli

01-09-2010, 09:58 PM

i'm thinking of doing this now
other runs i'm contemplating

lethem's omega the unknown mini
sinestro corps war
morrison's final crisis books (including superman beyond 3-d, submit, and batman last rites)

Sven

01-13-2010, 10:45 AM

bought the filth today

excited to read it

This is the story of me yesterday. How is this book? It looks cuh-raaaaazy.

number8

01-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Well, this is petty.

Marvel has offered comic book retailers a free limited variant of Siege. All they have to do is send Marvel 50 torn-up Blackest Night tie-in issues.

Yikes.

Acapelli

01-15-2010, 07:52 PM

This is the story of me yesterday. How is this book? It looks cuh-raaaaazy.
it really is. some really out there ideas which is par for the course for morrison. have yet to grasp any sort of deeper meaning yet, but it definitely warrants a re-read

Grouchy

01-16-2010, 01:10 AM

Well, this is petty.

Marvel has offered comic book retailers a free limited variant of Siege. All they have to do is send Marvel 50 torn-up Blackest Night tie-in issues.

Yikes.
What?

megladon8

01-16-2010, 02:33 AM

"The Enigma of Amigara Fault" (http://brasscockroach.com/h4ll0w33n2007/manga/Amigara-Full/Amigara-0.html)

number8

01-16-2010, 02:52 AM

There's a manga thread if you're gonna talk Ito.

megladon8

01-16-2010, 02:54 AM

There's a manga thread if you're gonna talk Ito.

Touché.

I always forget there's a thread specifically for manga.

Sven

01-17-2010, 01:26 AM

it really is. some really out there ideas which is par for the course for morrison. have yet to grasp any sort of deeper meaning yet, but it definitely warrants a re-read

Man... I'm only halfway through it, but goddamn. So good. So crazy. So neat, so unique. I love it. Love the art. I think it bests Watchmen in terms of post-modern meta-comic novels.

jenniferofthejungle

01-17-2010, 03:09 AM

This graphic novel memoir was just stunning.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5774/stitches24.jpg

Watashi

01-24-2010, 09:44 AM

ledfloyd

01-24-2010, 10:44 AM

With some tax refunds and leftover financial aid, I want get some more TPBs and get back into the comic mold. I haven't read anything since I finished Y: The Last Man last year. Good stuff.

I'm thinking about picking up trades of the following:

Planetary
Top Ten
Bone (the entire thing)
Doom Patrol
The Invisibles
Ex Machina
The Walking Dead
Animal Man
Promethea (though I hear that it's not really the best for amateur readers)
Astro City

Thoughts on these? Any preference? Any suggestions similar to the ones mentioned above?

I also need to finish Sandman. I stopped reading after Dream Country. I loved it dearly, but I just never bothered to buy the remaining volumes.
bone seems like something you will love, highly recommended. ex machina and the walking dead are must reads too. promethea i really dig but i can see some parts of it being a bit alienating. animal man is good meta fun, as is doom patrol. though with both you can feel morrison still learning. top ten is fun but there's not a whole lot there beyond the surface as there is with other moore comics. still a good time. invisibles i had trouble getting into, but everyone else seems to think it's the shit. haven't read astro city or planetary.

Grouchy

01-25-2010, 01:46 AM

I've read Planetary, Bone, Doom Patrol, Animal Man and Astro City. They're all really recommended. Specially Bone.

EyesWideOpen

01-26-2010, 04:31 AM

Been reading through a bunch of my backlog of tpb's/hardcovers. Over the last few weeks I've finished off:

Powers: Definitive Hardcover Collection Vol. 1 & 2 (after the first volume I was disappointed after all the hype but after the second volume I'm in)

Spider-Man: Brand New Day Hardcover's Vol. 1 & 2 (another really hyped series that I enjoyed and I'll pick up the next one but it didn't blow me away)

Hellboy Library Edition Vol. 3 (loved it)

The Five Fists of Science (great concept, muddled execution)

G.I. Joe Cobra TPB (I have no affinity for the G.I. Joe franchise but this was fantastic)

Chew Vol. 1 TPB (doesn't remotely live up to the hype but still enjoyable)

The Mighty Vol. 1 TPB (everything Tomasi touches is gold, can't wait for the second volume)

Irredeemable Vol. 1 & 2 TPB (Waid has sucked me in, can't wait for more)

Scalped Vol. 5 TPB (the best comic book series on the stands)

Suburban Glamour TPB (gorgeous art, decent story)

bac0n

01-26-2010, 04:05 PM

EyesWideOpen

01-26-2010, 11:51 PM

So, I heard that after the current Dark Reign story arc finishes that they're canceling all Avengers titles and perhaps reforming the team into one single Avengers title maybe a month or two down the road (or maybe sooner).

Has anybody heard of this? It would be nice if true, cuz as I have mentioned before, Bendis sorta lost me at the end of Secret Invasion.

They are definitely ending all 4 of the Avengers titles in the coming months (they've already solicited final issues) but I highly doubt they will leave it with one Avengers book. All 4 are near the top of Marvel's sales charts and to drop it down to one makes no financial sense. They might start with one book but by the end of the year I think they'll be back to 3 or 4 Avengers books.

number8

01-27-2010, 12:00 AM

Or they'll just rename them. Have one Avengers book, drop the Avengers prefix from The Initiative, then maybe have Hank Pym reestablish the West Coast Avengers.

Acapelli

01-27-2010, 01:09 AM

avengers initiative is going to become avengers academy

i'm sure bendis will be writing two avengers books again, even if they just start out with one

heard some joking around about renaming mighty avengers to champions of the universe or something like that and it sounds like a better fit to me than making it an avengers book

Acapelli

02-04-2010, 02:38 AM

man siege is really good

didn't really think bendis had something like this in him

ledfloyd

02-04-2010, 10:38 AM

i've been reading through steve gerber's run on howard the duck. good stuff.

dreamdead

02-04-2010, 06:48 PM

Read From Hell. It is indeed bloody billiant. Chapter four is just a wonder that commingles magic and history together, and though it's diluted by some of Moore's later laters on the occult, so much of the language, symbolization, and art just remain so spellbinding. Devastating to read, knowing the history of the events, but all the more powerful considering the relationships that develop between Abberline and the prostitute. Rivals Moore's best, and may be his best.