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Spinal
12-20-2008, 10:06 PM
Good grief. With every post my desire to lock this thread increases.

There are other ways to address this.

Dead & Messed Up
12-21-2008, 01:12 AM
A trailer has had a frickin' money shot of a film and then it was taken out in the final cut?

This happens often. I'm still pissed that The Transporter advertised Jason Statham deflecting a missile with a food tray, and it didn't make the cut because it was considered "too silly."

Boner M
12-21-2008, 01:24 AM
Literally laughed out the milk I was drinking when I saw the thread title. Luckily none of it got on my computer.

Kurious Jorge v3.1
12-21-2008, 01:44 AM
From the AP wire:

Capitilzing on the hesistance of Christopher Nolan to sign on for a third film, producers confirmed that Jean-Marie Straub signed on direct what is tentaively being titled Batman la Revolutione: From the Catwoman to the Resistance. It will be filmed in Italian dialogue, and no subtitles will be provided upon theatrical release in 2010. Says Marie-Straub about the curious language choice "If you don't know Italian, fuck you. I don't know Italian either and I'm a-directing this bitch."

megladon8
12-21-2008, 02:38 AM
Is the thread title, like, a movie reference or something? Some inside joke I'm missing out on?

dreamdead
12-21-2008, 02:40 AM
Is the thread title, like, a movie reference or something? Some inside joke I'm missing out on?

It's a reference to a couple-year-old thread on RT about not noticing how hot Lindsay Lohan's boobs were until she flaunted them on SNL...

Boner M
12-21-2008, 02:43 AM
Is the thread title, like, a movie reference or something? Some inside joke I'm missing out on?
C'mon, didn't you post at RT in 2004? That thread was unforgettable.

Spinal
12-21-2008, 02:48 AM
C'mon, didn't you post at RT in 2004? That thread was unforgettable.

Meg is not fond of large-breasted blondes. It's very possible he missed it.

Watashi
12-21-2008, 02:50 AM
Meg is not fond of large-breasted blondes. It's very possible he missed it.
Lohan was red-headed though.

The Mike
12-21-2008, 03:16 AM
Lohan was red-headed though.

And hot.

BirdsAteMyFace
12-21-2008, 03:53 AM
And hot.And unsuspectedly bisexual.

DavidSeven
12-21-2008, 03:58 AM
And viral. Oh, I guess that's The Dark Knight ....yeah.

The Mike
12-21-2008, 04:08 AM
And unsuspectedly bisexual.
Y'know, we all saw rehab coming...I don't know how we missed that. :lol:

megladon8
12-21-2008, 05:36 PM
And unsuspectedly bisexual.


No, she's officially decided she's straight.

The Mike
12-21-2008, 06:00 PM
No, she's officially decided she's straight.And I've officially decided she's dating me.

Oh wait....doesn't work that way either. ;)

eternity
12-21-2008, 06:45 PM
I really can't imagine Batman as Hermione Granger, but lord knows I'm trying.

Sycophant
12-21-2008, 06:55 PM
I really can't imagine Batman as Hermione Granger, but lord knows I'm trying.

There are things you run across in life you hope you'll never understand.

number8
12-22-2008, 02:33 AM
Nolan acts like every deleted scene is the result of acting flaws when, in fact, there can be a lot of different reasons why they weren't included on the movie. In fact, it's much more likely they felt they could do without a scene that would make the movie even longer than it is than Bale or Ledger fucked up. Still, it's his movie and it's fine if he doesn't want to release then.

Outtakes and deleted scenes are two completely different things.

Raiders
12-22-2008, 02:41 AM
There are things you run across in life you hope you'll never understand.

I think he's referring to the SNL skit where Lohan played Hermoine.

Sorry if I ruined the illusion for you.

Grouchy
12-22-2008, 06:50 PM
Outtakes and deleted scenes are two completely different things.
Ok, I was talking about deleted scenes like the one meg mentions, although I don't really remember it from the trailers.

Yxklyx
12-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Ah, here we are. I recently watched the two Nolan films for the first time. A lot of the story in The Dark Knight just doesn't make sense or didn't play out realistically. Character motivations seemed at odds at times. The whole "kill until Batman reveals himself" story, the motivation behind Two-Face, etc. How the hell did The Joker get out of the cell - surely that cop didn't have a key on him? The ending? This movie had me scratching my head a lot. Loved the performances though.

megladon8
01-01-2009, 02:18 AM
I thought the BluRay was pretty amazing.

I certainly noticed a bit of a difference between the image quality of the regular scenes, and the IMAX ones - but nothing drastic. It's like saying Godiva chocolate is better than Cadbury.

megladon8
01-03-2009, 08:11 PM
I absolutely fucking love the use of silence in the film. Sometimes just accompanied by that slow, building screech of the music in the background.

Examples: Joker hanging his out out the side of the police car, and (my favorite) Dent waking up in the hospital, screaming and ripping the bandages off his face.

So, so awesome.

Kurosawa Fan
01-12-2009, 05:43 PM
I watched this at my parents house last night, and the second viewing was not kind. When you move aside Ledger's performance, I'm not sure there's anything else in this film that impresses me. I can't stand Bale and his Batman voice, the hero worship is out of control, the plotting is damn near nonsensical, the action sequences would be better if they weren't so incredibly far-fetched... the whole thing felt really lame a second time around. I'm really disappointed. I was hoping that my initial reservations in the theater were due to high expectations, but I think it's just a case of the film not being very good.

Milky Joe
01-12-2009, 05:47 PM
I watched this at my parents house last night, and the second viewing was not kind. When you move aside Ledger's performance, I'm not sure there's anything else in this film that impresses me. I can't stand Bale and his Batman voice, the hero worship is out of control, the plotting is damn near nonsensical, the action sequences would be better if they weren't so incredibly far-fetched... the whole thing felt really lame a second time around. I'm really disappointed. I was hoping that my initial reservations in the theater were due to high expectations, but I think it's just a case of the film not being very good.

It took me 4 viewings to come to essentially this same conclusion. Ledger's performance is so transcendent, incredible, perfect, that he literally makes everyone else in the film look and sound dull and lame and forced in comparison. Except when he's on screen with them, that is. It's pretty appropriate, though, when I think about it.

lovejuice
01-12-2009, 06:10 PM
aside from ledger -- which i like him as an actor more than the character -- the love for this film bedazzles me. nolan seems to cramp a lot into the limited running time, and the result is disjointing at best. it feels more like i'm watching a trailer. a case in point? when dent pretends to be batman, and gyllenhaal realizes he has been using cheat coin all these times. where is the sense of discovery? the language of cinema? the effect created by this scene is on par with someone telling me what happens or my reading of a detailed synopsis.

Spinal
01-12-2009, 06:10 PM
I watched this at my parents house last night, and the second viewing was not kind. When you move aside Ledger's performance, I'm not sure there's anything else in this film that impresses me. I can't stand Bale and his Batman voice, the hero worship is out of control, the plotting is damn near nonsensical, the action sequences would be better if they weren't so incredibly far-fetched... the whole thing felt really lame a second time around. I'm really disappointed. I was hoping that my initial reservations in the theater were due to high expectations, but I think it's just a case of the film not being very good.

The massive over-reaction to a reasonably competent action film is surely one of the more bewildering phenomenons of the year in film. Take away Ledger's performance and you have ... well ... Batman Begins.

megladon8
01-12-2009, 07:32 PM
I want my cool friends back.

Derek
01-12-2009, 07:52 PM
I was hoping that my initial reservations in the theater were due to high expectations, but I think it's just a case of the film not being very good.

No, you're confused. You're actually mindlessly participating in the backlash and because you disagree with the majority, you've shown your true colors as someone who can't think for himself and who dislikes the film only to stand out from the crowd. Don't you know that's how it works yet KF?

I still like this one a lot, but we'll see how it holds up on a second viewing soon enough.

Derek
01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
Take away Ledger's performance and you have ... well ... Batman Begins.

*shivers*

God, no.

megladon8
01-12-2009, 07:54 PM
I can't deny that it does seem a bit suspicious to have once-likers of the film suddenly turn into haters.

I also can't cay this wasn't predictable...

Kurosawa Fan
01-12-2009, 07:55 PM
No, you're confused. You're actually mindlessly participating in the backlash and because you disagree with the majority, you've shown your true colors as someone who can't think for himself and who dislikes the film only to stand out from the crowd. Don't you know that's how it works yet KF?

I still like this one a lot, but we'll see how it holds up on a second viewing soon enough.

Damn my constant need to follow the minority!!!

Kurosawa Fan
01-12-2009, 07:56 PM
I can't deny that it does seem a bit suspicious to have once-likers of the film suddenly turn into haters.

I also can't cay this wasn't predictable...

:|

I'm not a hater. I just wasn't impressed. I gave it a 7.5 to begin with, so I wasn't wowed the first time around. My opinion has nothing to do with the backlash. I'd still probably give it a 5.5 or 6.0, I just find it's too littered with flaws to be a very good film.

megladon8
01-12-2009, 07:59 PM
:|

I'm not a hater. I just wasn't impressed. I gave it a 7.5 to begin with, so I wasn't wowed the first time around. My opinion has nothing to do with the backlash. I'd still probably give it a 5.5 or 6.0, I just find it's too littered with flaws to be a very good film.


I was aiming for a similar sarcastic tone to Derek's post...I guess it just didn't work as well.

I know you're not a hater or a "I don't like it because it's popular" kind of person.

Kurosawa Fan
01-12-2009, 08:05 PM
I was aiming for a similar sarcastic tone to Derek's post...I guess it just didn't work as well.

I know you're not a hater or a "I don't like it because it's popular" kind of person.

Okay. I figured you wouldn't point that finger, but your post read straight.

megladon8
01-12-2009, 08:07 PM
Okay. I figured you wouldn't point that finger, but your post read straight.


No no no, I'm not looking for a fight. Different strokes is all.

I hate writing on the internet.

DavidSeven
01-12-2009, 08:28 PM
The massive over-reaction to a reasonably competent action film is surely one of the more bewildering phenomenons of the year in film.

Iron Man is a reasonably competent action film. The Dark Knight is something more. Can't really think of other action films that have explored the psyche/philosophy of their villains like Nolan's film does with The Joker/Two-Face. The moral and ethical issues faced by the film's "hero" are also unlike what we've seen in prior action films and extremely relevant to the contemporary political landscape. How well you think Nolan & Co. handle these elements is up for debate, I guess, but I don't know that any other pop action films has really attempted to present the hero/villain interplay quite like this. Also, great action set pieces and Nolan's best looking film to date. Bat-voice aside, it's head and shoulders above what we typically get from the genre in its purest form.

Spinal
01-12-2009, 08:54 PM
Spiderman 2 handles moral/ethical issues every bit as well as The Dark Knight.

Melville
01-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Spiderman 2 handles moral/ethical issues every bit as well as The Dark Knight.
Better action scenes too. And a joyously campy style to boot.

Watashi
01-12-2009, 09:22 PM
I think The Dark Knight actually improved for me on every viewing. Yeah, there are some cringe-worthy dialogue and tangled plot devices, but it just has this wave of technical mastery and immediate emotion that it's so easy to get wrapped up in this web of crime.

But yeah, Spiderman 2 is definitely better.

DavidSeven
01-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Spider-Man 2 is just a bigger version of Spider-Man's suckiness.

megladon8
01-12-2009, 09:59 PM
I actually like the first Spider-Man better than the second from a storytelling standpoint (the action in Spider-Man 2 is certainly better).

I would never dare say that The Dark Knight is flawless. As Wats said, it has some occasional dialogue issues. But I found it exciting, enthralling and ultimately affecting - much moreseo than any other superhero movie since, well, Batman Begins. And before that, nothing since the original Superman.

Complaints about coherency in both the plot and action puzzle me. If (with regards to the plot) it's the whole "Joker's whole plan wouldn't have worked if everything hadn't gone precisely according to plan", well, I thought the film made it pretty clear that he didn't really have a definite plan, and that in itself showed how brilliantly disturbed he was.

As he said, "I'm like a dog chasing cars...I just DO things". Every time a new development occurred, he worked around it to further attempt to prove his whole theory that, underneath our civilized exterior, we're nothing but rabid dogs.

But honestly, it's just a case of people liking and preferring different things. Some prefer the campy, knowingly comic book inspired feel of the Spider-Man films, while others like Nolan's vision of a Batman film that acts more as a crima saga which happens to have masked vigilantism. There isn't one "right" style or way to go about it.

Heck, rewatching the old Adam West Batman: The Movie just the other night, I was reminded of how damn fun that movie is. It's just as much a respectable part of Batman lore as The Dark Knight, "Batman: The Animated Series", or Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns".

I think having all these different interpretations and visions of one character and his surroundings is what makes it so exciting to keep coming back to the new books, new movies and new TV shows. Each person's life experiences give them a different look at what is important in the character and the stories, and what touches them and will touch similarly minded people.

This is why - similar to D_Davis, but not as militant - I don't find the discussion of superhero movies (or even the comics they're based on) to be all that fulfilling when surrounded by comic book afficionados, because so many of them are absolutely convinced that their vision of Batman, or of Superman, or of whatever is the RIGHT one. While lots of people do love Nolan's vision of Batman, many also hate it because instead of focusing on his detective skills, he made Batman's prominent skills his ninja training. Again, it's just what the Nolan brothers and David Goyer saw as being a good place to go with the character they created, and the world they envisioned.

If I were to make a Batman film myself, it would be wildly different from Nolan's films. It wouldn't be any more or less "definitive" a vision, it would just be my vision.

What it comes down to is whether or not a good story is being told, and in a good way. Schumacher's films were not bad because they were flamboyantly coloured, they were bad because the writing was poor, the characters unsympathetic and unrelatable, and they were just poorly made films. If WB decided to make another goofy, funny Batman movie, I'd be all for it - I'd just ask that they had a good story to tell, and that they tried to make it something worth doing in that way.

number8
01-12-2009, 11:58 PM
I don't even think Ledger gave the best performance in this.

Oldman, baby.

megladon8
01-13-2009, 12:03 AM
That kid Nathan Gamble is going to be one messed up adult.

He keeps having horrible things done to him in movies. I wonder what it'll be next.

number8
01-13-2009, 12:07 AM
That kid Nathan Gamble is going to be one messed up adult.

He keeps having horrible things done to him in movies. I wonder what it'll be next.

Look at it this way, he was in two of the best movies of 2007 and 2008. His agent is smarty-poo.

megladon8
01-13-2009, 12:11 AM
Look at it this way, he was in two of the best movies of 2007 and 2008. His agent is smarty-poo.


Of course, but I can just imagine what home life is like for him now.

"Dad, you promise you won't shoot me in the face, right? And do you also promise that if Two Face kidnaps me and mom, you'll get him to shoot you instead of me? And you'll never let our Mexican nanny take me to her son's wedding right?"

number8
01-13-2009, 01:02 AM
"Also, if we get a dog, can you promise it will never die?"

Dead & Messed Up
01-13-2009, 02:58 AM
I actually like the first Spider-Man better than the second from a storytelling standpoint (the action in Spider-Man 2 is certainly better).

Explanation required. Does not compute.

Ezee E
01-13-2009, 04:45 AM
There are moments in Spider-Man 1 that I think would come from a Power Rangers movie.

megladon8
01-13-2009, 05:25 AM
Explanation required. Does not compute.


To be honest, I'd have to watch them again to tell you why. I just know I liked the first one better. :)

Dead & Messed Up
01-13-2009, 06:53 AM
To be honest, I'd have to watch them again to tell you why. I just know I liked the first one better. :)

On re-views, I find the first one substandard, cliched, and awfully unoriginal in its hero/villain conflict. In fact, I think I like the third one more than the first.

A sacrilegious opinion, I'm sure.

Ezee E
01-13-2009, 02:05 PM
On re-views, I find the first one substandard, cliched, and awfully unoriginal in its hero/villain conflict. In fact, I think I like the third one more than the first.

A sacrilegious opinion, I'm sure.
Or you just need to watch the third one again.

Malickfan
01-13-2009, 02:53 PM
There are moments in Spider-Man 1 that I think would come from a Power Rangers movie.

My god, you are right...especially when Spider Man takes on Goblin at the end.

Melville
01-13-2009, 03:41 PM
Or you just need to watch the third one again.
Yeah, I recently rewatched the second and third one, and I was disappointed to find that the stuff I really liked about the third one (all the comedic stuff) made up a much smaller fraction of the film than I remembered. I think, beyond the disjointed, ill-paced plotting, the major problem was that the gonzo editing and camera movements of the second one were replaced for the most part by a more straightforward, somber style. That style might have worked with the more serious mood of the film, but it's not very interesting, and it makes all the comedy scenes stick out kind of awkwardly.

However, I think I might actually agree with DaMU. My rewatch of the third film, despite my comments above, didn't really change my opinion of it: lousy pacing with a terribly rushed conclusion (and a really lousy climactic battle scene that unadvisedly puts us in the role of street-level spectator), nonsensical treatment of Sandman, underdeveloped treatment of Venom, balanced by a few hilarious moments and what I thought were a few genuinely touching dramatic scenes. But the last time I watched the first film, admittedly a couple years ago, it really didn't live up to my memory of it at all. At least the third film had great bits amidst its messiness; there's really nothing that stands out in the first film other than the Green Goblin's awful costume.

Yxklyx
01-13-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm pretty sure I always prefer the first film in a comic book film series, so I liked Spiderman more than it sequels and I liked Batman and Batman Begins more than their sequels. I like the whole "how did I get here" aspect of superheroes more than anything else that comes later - plus the first in the series spends more time with the actual person behind the mask.

Qrazy
01-13-2009, 05:57 PM
I'm pretty sure I always prefer the first film in a comic book film series, so I liked Spiderman more than it sequels and I liked Batman and Batman Begins more than their sequels. I like the whole "how did I get here" aspect of superheroes more than anything else that comes later - plus the first in the series spends more time with the actual person behind the mask.

Agreed for the most part (in terms of storylines at least but not necessarily the films themselves), I just find origin stories more interesting than the raising the bar approach sequels take. Another problem with sequels is that they often retread much of the same ground as the first film.

Dead & Messed Up
01-13-2009, 06:35 PM
Or you just need to watch the third one again.

As messy as it is, I kind of admire its "anything goes" charm, which results in a lot of amazing sequences. Sandman's creation, the bell tower scene, the tag-team finale, the strut (God, the strut!), Harry and Mary Jane making omelettes, the effective finale.

The first one so rigidly adheres to the formula of origin stories that, apart from one or two brief images (the upside-down kiss, the amazing final shot), it feels constricted and flat.

Ezee E
01-13-2009, 06:39 PM
Y'know what they should do, is an origin story for how a villain comes to be. A ton more opportunities.

megladon8
01-13-2009, 07:51 PM
Y'know what they should do, is an origin story for how a villain comes to be. A ton more opportunities.


A Venom movie is already in the works.

number8
01-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Origins are boring. :confused:

I'd rather if superheroes are used as a conduit rather than character studies.

The Mike
01-13-2009, 10:45 PM
I too prefer Spider-Man to its sequels. By trying to have less of a "message" about how hard life as a supe is (before the finale, of course), it comes off as more interesting from a psychological standpoint.

The first sequel was also fantastic, and both are among my favorites of their years, but I'll always take the more simple "discovering awesomeness" tale over the "here's how awesome I am, but man, it sucks" tale.

Dukefrukem
01-14-2009, 03:11 PM
As messy as it is, I kind of admire its "anything goes" charm, which results in a lot of amazing sequences. Sandman's creation, the bell tower scene, the tag-team finale, the strut (God, the strut!), Harry and Mary Jane making omelettes, the effective finale.

The first one so rigidly adheres to the formula of origin stories that, apart from one or two brief images (the upside-down kiss, the amazing final shot), it feels constricted and flat.

It's worse than messy. Its a huge disappointment. They could have gone in a million directions with both the symbiotes origin and introducing venom for a fourth film... but they decided to wrap everything up in a bow before the credits rolled. It was way too hurried.

The Mike
01-14-2009, 11:03 PM
but they decided to wrap everything up in a bow before the credits rolled. It was way too hurried.
At first I thought this post was about The Dark Knight. Then I had a revelation. Dark Knight = Better Spider-Man 3. :eek:

Sycophant
01-15-2009, 02:59 AM
My viewings of each were far between, but my enjoyment of several moments in Spider-Man 3 far exceeded the enjoyment I got from the previous two installments.

Oh, and exceeded the enjoyment I got frm the The Dark Knight, too.

Though a reevaluation of both film series in their entirety might be in order. I have a feel Spidey will fare better than Bats, if I'm using the proper comic book fan nomenclature.

Or maybe I should watch more Bergman films.

Dead & Messed Up
01-15-2009, 04:28 AM
It's worse than messy. Its a huge disappointment. They could have gone in a million directions with both the symbiotes origin and introducing venom for a fourth film... but they decided to wrap everything up in a bow before the credits rolled. It was way too hurried.

No doubt. I get the feeling that both this film and X3 got marching orders from the studio to "pack in as much as possible." Both films suffer from storylines that don't get the full weight they should (be they the Dark Pheonix or Venom).

transmogrifier
01-15-2009, 05:28 AM
My viewings of each were far between, but my enjoyment of several moments in Spider-Man 3 far exceeded the enjoyment I got from the previous two installments.

Oh, and exceeded the enjoyment I got frm the The Dark Knight, too.

Though a reevaluation of both film series in their entirety might be in order. I have a feel Spidey will fare better than Bats, if I'm using the proper comic book fan nomenclature.

Or maybe I should watch more Bergman films.


Life is far, far too short to re-evaluate either Spider-man or Nolan's Batman films IMHO. They should have been better the first time around.

Dead & Messed Up
01-15-2009, 06:31 AM
Life is far, far too short to re-evaluate either Spider-man or Nolan's Batman films IMHO.

Says the prolific internet movie-site poster...

;)

transmogrifier
01-15-2009, 09:09 AM
Says the prolific internet movie-site poster...

;)

Posting shite on an internet site > rewatching the aforementioned films

I would have thought that went without saying.

Dukefrukem
01-15-2009, 05:29 PM
No doubt. I get the feeling that both this film and X3 got marching orders from the studio to "pack in as much as possible." Both films suffer from storylines that don't get the full weight they should (be they the Dark Pheonix or Venom).

Why would they want that? Why wouldn't they just cash in on 4th 5th and 6th movies?

They could have easily made two movies out of the third Spiderman. And now it looks like they're already gonna make two more so... the "packed" film will now look out of place.

My theory is both 4th and 5th Spiderman films will be one giant film, so I'm expecting a "To be continued" after number 4.

Dead & Messed Up
01-15-2009, 06:23 PM
Why would they want that? Why wouldn't they just cash in on 4th 5th and 6th movies?

Three-movie contracts with the studio are standard operating procedure for a lot of actors, and the studio was likely fearful that the talent wouldn't be returning. So you try to pack all the ideas you had into the last movie.

Sycophant
01-15-2009, 07:34 PM
Life is far, far too short to re-evaluate either Spider-man or Nolan's Batman films IMHO. They should have been better the first time around.Yeah, this is what I'm thinking, more or less. The only motivation I have for a rewatch really is to better develop and articulate my opinion, as these films come up in my real-life conversations all the effing time.

Dead & Messed Up
01-16-2009, 02:16 AM
So I made a wallpaper of the villains from Nolan's universe. I kinda wanna make a matching one based on the animated series version.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/deadandmessedup/Bat-Villains-Final.jpg

Hmmm, Photobucket resized it for me. How kind of them...

Dukefrukem
01-16-2009, 02:32 AM
So I made a wallpaper of the villains from Nolan's universe. I kinda wanna make a matching one based on the animated series version.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v179/deadandmessedup/Bat-Villains-Final.jpg

Hmmm, Photobucket resized it for me. How kind of them...

can i get a 1080p version of that??

Dead & Messed Up
01-16-2009, 03:08 AM
can i get a 1080p version of that??

I can't give you a 1080p, since the original file is significantly smaller and there would be a serious lack of resolution, but I can e-mail you the original unshrunk version.

number8
01-26-2009, 11:54 PM
http://data.tumblr.com/mlsyKxOF8f0v9i3o2ELXg6nZo1_500 .jpg

megladon8
01-27-2009, 02:03 AM
Didn't you post that earlier in the thread?

transmogrifier
01-27-2009, 05:46 AM
Does this thread get locked after the Oscars?

number8
01-27-2009, 06:35 AM
Does this thread get locked after the Oscars?

Sure. And then we'll start a new one for Batman 3 immediately.

transmogrifier
01-27-2009, 09:23 AM
I hereby pledge that I will not post in the Batman 3 thread lest I be struck down by a 30 foot pink plastic dildo from on high.

Signed,

trans.

Morris Schæffer
01-27-2009, 11:01 AM
Some nasty things have happened in Belgium last friday where a 20-year old nutjob has entered a child care center, wounded about 12 babies (two died) and stabbed a woman to death that worked there. His face was painted white, his hair long and greasy, he was carrying an assortment of knives and upon entering the building said "I have only one question." In Dutch of course. Famous periodical "Menzo" have seen themselves forced to change their latest cover - a tribute to Heath Ledger - from the joker to normal, casual Ledger.

megladon8
01-27-2009, 02:58 PM
Some nasty things have happened in Belgium last friday where a 20-year old nutjob has entered a child care center, wounded about 12 babies (two died) and stabbed a woman to death that worked there. His face was painted white, his hair long and greasy, he was carrying an assortment of knives and upon entering the building said "I have only one question." In Dutch of course. Famous periodical "Menzo" have seen themselves forced to change their latest cover - a tribute to Heath Ledger - from the joker to normal, casual Ledger.


Ugh...that's so awful.

D_Davis
07-07-2009, 10:58 PM
Saw The Dark Knight today.

I liked it a lot more than Batman Begins.

Still think Bale's Batman voice is absolutely ridiculous, but that's all been covered before.

Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman steal the show; I love their performances, and the movie really is Two Face's story. I thought the Joker was simply a catalyst for Two Face's transformation - his is definitely the most tragic and emotional.

Good movie. Didn't love it, but I'm glad I watched it.

Sycophant
07-07-2009, 11:37 PM
Pity meg's not around to see you finally got to it.

trotchky
07-07-2009, 11:38 PM
The scene where his girlfriend dies is surprisingly powerful, thanks to both his and Maggie Gyllenhaal's acting chops, but I found everything after his escape from the hospital pretty lame.

Sycophant
07-07-2009, 11:40 PM
The scene where his girlfriend dies is surprisingly powerful, thanks to both his and Maggie Gyllenhaal's acting chops

This is surprising to me, actually, since I was rather unimpressed with both Eckhart and Gyllenhaal's performances in this film, and their inability to communicate how much they meant to each other is something I've cited as one of the main faults of the film.

Dead & Messed Up
07-08-2009, 12:27 AM
Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman still the show; I love their performances, and the movie really is Two Face's story. I thought the Joker was simply a catalyst for Two Face's transformation - his is definitely the most tragic and emotional.

Glad you dug it. I think this is exactly right, and it supports the title as having at least three meanings, since the three mains are all obsessed men on their own crusades for what they perceive to be right. Two-Face and Gordon's final confrontation has gone from being an anticlimax to possibly my favorite part of the film. Truly involving, deeply sad.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 01:06 AM
The entire movie is brilliantly casted. It really stands above all comic book movies in this area. I also rewatched it recently. (see sig)

trotchky
07-08-2009, 01:41 AM
The entire movie is brilliantly casted. It really stands above all comic book movies in this area. I also rewatched it recently. (see sig)

I'm curious: what could the movie have done differently to earn that extra one point?

Dead & Messed Up
07-08-2009, 01:56 AM
I'm curious: what could the movie have done differently to earn that extra one point?

Tits.

Duncan
07-08-2009, 02:07 AM
Wait, when/why did meg leave?

Skitch
07-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Wait, Meg left?!

eternity
07-08-2009, 02:19 AM
Harvey/Two-Face's emotional arc made me laugh. What garbage.

"YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LOST!"

"Yeah, we do, your girlfriend died and you're punishing yourself for it."

"NO NO NO YOU DON'T KNOW NANNY NANNY NANNY!"

Ezee E
07-08-2009, 02:47 AM
Don't think Meg left.

Spun Lepton
07-08-2009, 03:16 AM
Meg left. It's true.

Watashi
07-08-2009, 03:20 AM
I'm just going to stop sharing any thoughts or opinions on this board.

Yeah, he's gone.

Dead & Messed Up
07-08-2009, 03:38 AM
Harvey/Two-Face's emotional arc made me laugh. What garbage.

"YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I LOST!"

"Yeah, we do, your girlfriend died and you're punishing yourself for it."

"NO NO NO YOU DON'T KNOW NANNY NANNY NANNY!"

I thought his emotional and intellectual breakdown was pretty well justified. I felt for the poor guy.

number8
07-08-2009, 04:43 AM
Yeah, he's gone.

Where's that from? The Lady Gaga thing?

Ivan Drago
07-08-2009, 04:43 AM
Where's that from? The Lady Gaga thing?

No, the Bono thing in Random Thoughts.

number8
07-08-2009, 04:47 AM
No, the Bono thing in Random Thoughts.

Guy can't catch a break.

lovejuice
07-08-2009, 05:18 AM
we need that sven's post in which he says something like...one shouldn't take one's own opinion too seriously or something.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 12:19 PM
I'm curious: what could the movie have done differently to earn that extra one point?

No film gets 100.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 12:25 PM
No, the Bono thing in Random Thoughts.

I don't blame him. All the dude wants to talk about is movies and talk about stuff and he's constantly berated.

B-side
07-08-2009, 12:33 PM
I've never seen meg berated. This stuff must happen in the other forums.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 12:41 PM
I've never seen meg berated. This stuff must happen in the other forums.

He takes thinks very personal.

EvilShoe
07-08-2009, 12:46 PM
Meg was an outcast. He could post opinions no one else dared to post: the right ones.
So we hunted him, because we thought he could take it.

B-side
07-08-2009, 12:48 PM
He takes thinks very personal.

I understand that. Anyone who knows me from RT would tell you I often do the same. I just mean that I'm pretty sure I've never seen him in an argument at all, let alone seen him get berated.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 12:55 PM
I've seen him in several. He was a good poster. And now he's gone.

B-side
07-08-2009, 12:56 PM
I've seen him in several. He was a good poster. And now he's gone.

Yeah, I liked him. Hope he comes back.

Skitch
07-08-2009, 02:09 PM
Who chased off Meg? He was one of the best posters here.

Benny Profane
07-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Meg chased off himself, it sounds like.

I found Dent's coin-flipping to be entirely unsuspenseful and borderline ludicrous. It ruined the ending of the movie for me. Oh, and everyone yelling out the themes repeatedly didn't help much either. O. VER. RAY. TED.

Mara
07-08-2009, 02:15 PM
I don't blame him. All the dude wants to talk about is movies and talk about stuff and he's constantly berated.

Meg's a great guy, maybe perhaps a little vulnerable. Some of the ribbing he got was good-natured, some of it not so much.

I want him to come back.

Boner M
07-08-2009, 02:18 PM
Meg's done this before, he usually returns in a few weeks.

NickGlass
07-08-2009, 02:23 PM
Yeah, no need to make him a martyr for having low self-esteem. Just give him a little while for his bruised ego to heal. He'll be back.

Watashi
07-08-2009, 02:38 PM
I think if we all stand in a circle and simultaneously rub our chests while saying "We Love Batman, We Love Batman", maybe we can get him to come back.

Wryan
07-08-2009, 02:46 PM
This shit's about to go viral!

lovejuice
07-08-2009, 03:01 PM
he's a great poster. i too want him back.

but to be honest, i don't think we are that mean to him regarding bono. perhaps in some other arguments.

Ezee E
07-08-2009, 03:08 PM
he's a great poster. i too want him back.

but to be honest, i don't think we are that mean to him regarding bono. perhaps in some other arguments.
Just as mean as we are to posters like wats, duke, barty, and drago.

Watashi
07-08-2009, 03:14 PM
No one is mean to me here.

Watashi
07-08-2009, 03:14 PM
And please do not put me in the same sentence as Ivan and duke.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 03:14 PM
No one is mean to me here.

Shut the fuck up fucker.


yeh that was lame

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 03:16 PM
Just as mean as we are to posters like wats, duke, barty, and drago.

Yeh I was pissed in the past about that shit but you've been nice to me since. And even Sycophant has been nice! :)

Mara
07-08-2009, 03:16 PM
I don't think anyone has ever been mean to me here. SOMEBODY made fun of my crocheting once, but I'm working hard to get over it, emotionally.

Skitch
07-08-2009, 03:17 PM
And even Sycophant has been nice! :)

Pffft. Shenanigans.

EvilShoe
07-08-2009, 04:05 PM
I don't think anyone has ever been mean to me here. SOMEBODY made fun of my crocheting once, but I'm working hard to get over it, emotionally.
I don't know why anyone would mock your crocheting skills.
It's something that should be envied.

Mara
07-08-2009, 04:20 PM
I don't know why anyone would mock your crocheting skills.
It's something that should be envied.

Yes, well, if That Person has a baby and the baby gets cold, I'm not going to do a damn thing about it.








:sad: Oh no that poor baby.

EvilShoe
07-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Yes, well, if That Person has a baby and the baby gets cold, I'm not going to do a damn thing about it.








:sad: Oh no that poor baby.
Be careful: That might cause the baby to grow up and resent you, while constantly working on its crocheting skills to challenge you to a duel.
Such duels are hardcore.

Mara
07-08-2009, 04:28 PM
I hate to undermine a good indignation, but just in case it's not obvious, I'm totally kidding. I thought it was hilarious when Trans mocked my crocheting, and I have a good sense of humor about these things, and I would never let a baby be cold for one blessed second.

I'm trying to avoid emotional mix-ups.

Mara
07-08-2009, 04:30 PM
Be careful: That might cause the baby to grow up and resent you, while constantly working on its crocheting skills to challenge you to a duel.
Such duels are hardcore.

Good luck crocheting with your FROZEN LITTLE HANDS, COLD BABY.

EvilShoe
07-08-2009, 04:30 PM
I on the other hand am not joking.
As a child I found out I was awful at crocheting. I was also terrible at drawing stuff.
I'm fairly certain teachers called me "failure kid" behind my back.

Sycophant
07-08-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm fairly certain teachers called me "failure kid" behind my back.

Fortunately, you've seen movies, so you know that in the end you're gonna come out on top and show them all, right?

EvilShoe
07-08-2009, 04:50 PM
Fortunately, you've seen movies, so you know that in the end you're gonna come out on top and show them all, right?
Only if Mara agrees to be my crocheting-mentor.
Montage!

Wryan
07-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Only if Mara agrees to be my crocheting-mentor.
Montage!

By Brakhage?

Mara
07-08-2009, 05:27 PM
It's gonna be just like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR29PZOpNFQ&feature=PlayList&p=E4B6A392EEC4132C&index=6), only with yarn.

D_Davis
07-08-2009, 05:30 PM
I finally see The Dark Knight, and kind of like it, and the thread devolves into a discussion of crocheting...

I'm done with this place.


I have to say though, the fidelity of the Blu-ray disc was totally distracting. Half the time it looked as though it was shot on HD video...was it? It didn't feel like I was watching a film at all. I like the look of HD video when it's used purposefully, but the look of this film seemed to clear and clean. I want to rewatch this on DVD, because I think the lower fidelity will make things look better.

It felt, to use a superhero metaphor, like the movie was filmed in Metropolis, and not Gotham City. This is probably my biggest complaint about the film. Gotham City looked a lot like Vancouver BC to me; it didn't feel as though it was a city created to tell Batman's story. It was like Batman's milieu was simply shoehorned into our reality. I miss the Gotham of the comic book, and the Gotham city of the older films, yes even the Schumacher films. I loved the look of the city in those films.

number8
07-08-2009, 05:35 PM
I don't disagree... but it looks like Vancouver? It's Chicago, dude.

I liked the Batman Begins Gotham better. They really should have shot it in Tokyo or something. Somewhere more condensed and grimy.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 05:38 PM
I don't disagree... but it looks like Vancouver? It's Chicago, dude.

I liked the Batman Begins Gotham better. They really should have shot it in Tokyo or something. Somewhere more condensed and grimy.

The Fake Island was pretty cool. And I liked the monorail system. I found it odd they wouldn't rebuild the monorail for Dark Knight. (or at least show it). There's 1 scene where Bruce Wayne is driving under the L train in his Lambo. Is that supposed to be the monorail?

Dead & Messed Up
07-08-2009, 05:39 PM
I liked the Batman Begins Gotham better.

Truth. That was a good compromise between reality and the fantasy of the graphic novels and previous films. This one looks like Batman 2: Joker Takes Chicago.


but it looks like Vancouver? It's Chicago, dude.

Probably thinks that because Vancouver's stood in for Chicago so many times.

DavidSeven
07-08-2009, 05:51 PM
Is the look of "Gotham" an actual problem with the stand-alone film or a problem a fan has with the adaptation? Seems like you can only criticize the film's setting when viewing it in relative terms (i.e. comparing it to Schumacher's films or the comics). For one to say it's his "biggest complaint" about the film seems like a bit much. I loved the opening shot of the film (establishing the bright Gotham/Chicago skyline) because of the contrast between it and the dark bat symbol that precedes it and because Nolan establishes what universe we will be in from the beginning and doesn't cheat from there on out.

number8
07-08-2009, 05:54 PM
In my case, letting that become one of the bigger problems is easier when you have so little to dislike to begin with.

D_Davis
07-08-2009, 05:56 PM
I don't disagree... but it looks like Vancouver? It's Chicago, dude.


Never been to Chicago, but I've been to Vancouver many times. Simply using my own frame of reference for what the city looks like to my eyes.

Sycophant
07-08-2009, 05:56 PM
I've come to like this thread.

Mara
07-08-2009, 05:57 PM
I've come to like this thread.

The new title is kind of fantastic.

lovejuice
07-08-2009, 05:59 PM
I've come to like this thread.
indeed. it adds a whole new layer to batman.

DavidSeven
07-08-2009, 06:00 PM
I do agree, however, that Gyllenhaal wasn't right for the part. Not that I thought she was terrible or anything, but she didn't seem to have much chemistry with either Bale or Eckhart. It hurts the film a little because her relationship with both is such a catalyst for a lot of the film's plot. Holmes, though a weaker actress, had more chemistry with Bale (in Batman Begins) and had quite a bit of chemistry with Eckhart in Thank You For Smoking. I can't help but wonder how much better some of the heavy scenes would have played with her reprising the role.

Mara
07-08-2009, 06:03 PM
Bale and Gyllenhaal looked like siblings. Affectionate, but not passionate.

D_Davis
07-08-2009, 06:04 PM
indeed. it adds a whole new layer to batman.

Speaking of layers, I'm going to crochet myself a batcape.

Dead & Messed Up
07-08-2009, 06:11 PM
I do agree, however, that Gyllenhaal wasn't right for the part. Not that I thought she was terrible or anything, but she didn't seem to have much chemistry with either Bale or Eckhart. It hurts the film a little because her relationship with both is such a catalyst for a lot of the film's plot. Holmes, though a weaker actress, had more chemistry with Bale (in Batman Begins) and had quite a bit of chemistry with Eckhart in Thank You For Smoking. I can't help but wonder how much better some of the heavy scenes would have played with her reprising the role.

I would've liked to see Holmes come back as well. In addition to her potential chemistry, it simply would've made the character's death more compelling if it was her we'd actually seen through both movies.

But even then, both of those women seem a little girlish to me. This series needed a Cate Blanchett or Rachel Weisz. A woman, damnit.

number8
07-08-2009, 06:12 PM
I do agree, however, that Gyllenhaal wasn't right for the part. Not that I thought she was terrible or anything, but she didn't seem to have much chemistry with either Bale or Eckhart. It hurts the film a little because her relationship with both is such a catalyst for a lot of the film's plot. Holmes, though a weaker actress, had more chemistry with Bale (in Batman Begins) and had quite a bit of chemistry with Eckhart in Thank You For Smoking. I can't help but wonder how much better some of the heavy scenes would have played with her reprising the role.

For the romance, I think I kind of agree. Definitely in regards to with Bale. But Katie Holmes is extremely unbelievable as a strong ADA, especially in what is supposed to be a really shitty city crime-wise. Gyllenhaal fit that part of Rachel better, and I wished that we could see more of that.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 06:18 PM
Why didn't they recast Holmes anyway? I can't remember.

number8
07-08-2009, 06:31 PM
Why didn't they recast Holmes anyway? I can't remember.

They asked. She refused.

NickGlass
07-08-2009, 06:39 PM
I really, really like Gyllenhaal, and I remember reading and interview in which Gyllenhaal claimed that she loved the role because "Rachel is not a damsel in distress. She is a strong individual and the screenplay never puts her in a situation that you would likely see in a comic book adaptation."

Then I saw the movie and knew it was all PR bullshit.

The Mike
07-08-2009, 06:51 PM
No film gets 100.So, you rate on a scale of 1-99? Or can a film receive a zero?

transmogrifier
07-08-2009, 07:51 PM
I've come to like this thread.

Crocheting > The Dark Knight

DavidSeven
07-08-2009, 07:53 PM
Crocheting > The Dark Knight

Stale.

Ivan Drago
07-08-2009, 08:02 PM
Just as mean as we are to posters like wats, duke, barty, and drago.

And eternity.


And please do not put me in the same sentence as Ivan and duke.

Forgive me if I sound attacking here but what exactly makes me a bad poster? I know I say something stupid every once in a while, but doesn't everybody?

Either way I know you guys are kidding when you make fun of me...right? RIGHT?

DavidSeven
07-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Watashi is in a category all by himself.

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 08:08 PM
So, you rate on a scale of 1-99? Or can a film receive a zero?

A film cannot get a 0. If it was made, even poorly, it gets a 1. I've never given a film a 1.

lovejuice
07-08-2009, 08:14 PM
A film cannot get a 0. If it was made, even poorly, it gets a 1. I've never given a film a 1.
so what's the score of a movie that has everything like the road warrior (83) except what makes the hangover (82) so good?

Dukefrukem
07-08-2009, 08:52 PM
so what's the score of a movie that has everything like the road warrior (83) except what makes the hangover (82) so good?

I don't understand the question.

My ratings are highly influenced on my desire to watch them. Typically what will initially happen is I will guess at a rating; based on how I feel I enjoyed the movie, the production quality, acting, ect. Then I will compare it to a lists of ratings I've made on other films that have a similar grade. I'll decide whether or not I want to watch it MORE or LESS than that movie. That's why there's so many rankings around 80s. At the end of the year, I'll probably adjust all the movies I watched in 09 with my master list I have on my hard drive.

BuffaloWilder
07-09-2009, 02:33 AM
Is the look of "Gotham" an actual problem with the stand-alone film or a problem a fan has with the adaptation? Seems like you can only criticize the film's setting when viewing it in relative terms (i.e. comparing it to Schumacher's films or the comics). For one to say it's his "biggest complaint" about the film seems like a bit much. I loved the opening shot of the film (establishing the bright Gotham/Chicago skyline) because of the contrast between it and the dark bat symbol that precedes it and because Nolan establishes what universe we will be in from the beginning and doesn't cheat from there on out.

I agree - and really, this depiction of Gotham seems to be just a continuation of the one that's been going on in the comics since '86, with Miller's Year One. But, it varies from artist to artist.

There's only one thing I can complain about, and it's a comic book collector's complaint more than anything else - the suit.

transmogrifier
07-09-2009, 03:05 AM
Stale.

Seeing as I was the one who criticized Mara's crocheting in the first place, I trust you will allow me this bauble. It's all of a piece.

trotchky
07-09-2009, 05:07 AM
No film gets 100.

Why not?

BuffaloWilder
07-09-2009, 05:12 AM
Why not?

This is probably one of the few times you'll find me agreeing with Pauline Kael. No film is perfect, and we're all a lot better for that, I think.

trotchky
07-09-2009, 05:28 AM
This is probably one of the few times you'll find me agreeing with Pauline Kael. No film is perfect, and we're all a lot better for that, I think.

A Clockwork Orange and Annie Hall and Persona are all perfect movies, in my opinion.

Milky Joe
07-09-2009, 05:57 AM
It's sad that meg had to leave because of an argument about Bono. I mean, come on meg, it's fucking Bono. Really not worth it in my opinion. I know he's a douche, you know he's a douche, so what if everyone else disagrees?

The Mike
07-09-2009, 06:23 AM
This is probably one of the few times you'll find me agreeing with Pauline Kael. No film is perfect, and we're all a lot better for that, I think.

I've never understood this opinion. What's the point of loving movies if you're never going to say one gets a perfect score? That's like saying "Yeah, I'm gonna marry this chick and love her the rest of my life, but I'm psychologically obliged to give her a 99, and 100 is totally out of the question."

Or, you could substitute "babe" if chick offends you.

I mean, why consider total happiness with a product (or babe) unattainable?

BuffaloWilder
07-09-2009, 06:33 AM
I've never understood this opinion. What's the point of loving movies if you're never going to say one gets a perfect score? That's like saying "Yeah, I'm gonna marry this chick and love her the rest of my life, but I'm psychologically obliged to give her a 99, and 100 is totally out of the question."

Or, you could substitute "babe" if chick offends you.

I mean, why consider total happiness with a product (or babe) unattainable?

Well, I guess it depends really on what you would consider 'perfection,' as far as film goes.

trotchky
07-09-2009, 06:49 AM
If perfection is non-existent there's no point in even thinking about it, much less reserving a score for it.

Sxottlan
07-09-2009, 07:51 AM
Is it me or did they mess up the audio in the transfer to disc and cable? Whenever I watch this movie now, I have to crank it up and it never seems loud enough.

Derek
07-09-2009, 03:57 PM
If perfection is non-existent there's no point in even thinking about it, much less reserving a score for it.

Stop on by (http://www.match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=2167&page=4). I think you'd have a good time here.

Dukefrukem
07-09-2009, 05:26 PM
This is probably one of the few times you'll find me agreeing with Pauline Kael. No film is perfect, and we're all a lot better for that, I think.

batta bing

Dukefrukem
07-09-2009, 05:27 PM
I've never understood this opinion. What's the point of loving movies if you're never going to say one gets a perfect score? That's like saying "Yeah, I'm gonna marry this chick and love her the rest of my life, but I'm psychologically obliged to give her a 99, and 100 is totally out of the question."

Or, you could substitute "babe" if chick offends you.

I mean, why consider total happiness with a product (or babe) unattainable?

Did you just relate movie ratings to marriage?

Russ
07-09-2009, 05:35 PM
I had to attend a funeral this past week. I gave it 9.5.

It was overcast.

MadMan
07-09-2009, 05:48 PM
I just came in here to say that the new title for this thread is brilliant.

The Mike
07-09-2009, 11:48 PM
Did you just relate movie ratings to marriage?

Is that a problem?

Qrazy
07-09-2009, 11:56 PM
There are action scenes too. And a campy style to boot.

Yep.

trotchky
07-09-2009, 11:58 PM
Seriously though, is it a problem? We're talking about a very broad concept here (perfection); why shouldn't it apply to life across-the-board?

number8
07-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Guys, my birthday is in December. You can all chip in to buy me this:

http://www.universaldesigns.ca/UDR/ID/IDjacket.html

Dead & Messed Up
07-21-2009, 12:39 AM
Guys, my birthday is in December. You can all chip in to buy me this:

http://www.universaldesigns.ca/UDR/ID/IDjacket.html

Do want.

Sycophant
07-21-2009, 12:43 AM
Like, where would you wear that to?

Spaceman Spiff
07-21-2009, 12:54 AM
Like, where would you wear that to?

At fucking home. While drinking a beer, maybe.

Dukefrukem
07-21-2009, 12:54 AM
I want that badly. Have they announced how much it's gonna be?

number8
07-21-2009, 01:13 AM
Like, where would you wear that to?

TO BED.

Sycophant
07-21-2009, 01:14 AM
TO BED.

This makes a bit more sense than Spiff's suggestion, anyway.

Amnesiac
07-21-2009, 01:16 AM
TO BED.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31NGWSD336L._AA280_.jpg

The Mike
07-21-2009, 03:06 AM
Like, where would you wear that to?

Either A) The bar from the beginning of T2, B) A dinner party at Marilyn Manson's, or C) The waiting room at the blood bank.

Spun Lepton
07-21-2009, 03:55 AM
Like, where would you wear that to?

He wants to wear it to the DNA Lounge and show up all those goth/industrial 'tards.

Sycophant
07-21-2009, 03:58 AM
He wants to wear it to the DNA Lounge and show up all those goth/industrial 'tards.

Who is the bigger "'tard." The goth/industrial 'tard, or he who desires to show up the goth/industrial 'tard?

number8
07-21-2009, 03:59 AM
He wants to wear it to the DNA Lounge and show up all those goth/industrial 'tards.

I was buried alive at the DNA Lounge once.

number8
07-21-2009, 04:06 AM
Okay, how about this. If you guys pitch in for it, I will wear it to the New York gathering.

Spun Lepton
07-21-2009, 04:14 AM
Who is the bigger "'tard." The goth/industrial 'tard, or he who desires to show up the goth/industrial 'tard?

ALL goth/industrial 'tards want to show up all the other goth/industrial 'tards. All of them. I know first-hand.

So, your question is moot.

:)

Ezee E
07-21-2009, 05:39 AM
truth is. 8 is just buying it back.

number8
07-21-2009, 06:22 AM
truth is. 8 is just buying it back.

It was a really bad idea to give Selina my spare keys. But, you know, she would just break in anyway.

Skitch
07-21-2009, 11:17 AM
Watched TDK again last night...the closer in a two week rewatch of the whole series.

Batman: Okay, I recognize that you have to start somewhere. So I give it credit for beginning it all. Other than that, terrible. Nicholson is just doing his imitation of Caesar from the corny tv show, Batman murders dozens of henchmen, and his identity is revealed to a woman.

Batman Returns: Little better than Batman. Bats doesn't have quite the same murderous tear he had in the first, but his body count is still higher than his villians combined. Also, he reveals his identity to a woman.

Batman Forever: The beginning of the Shumacher era! Jim Carrey plays the Riddler playing the Joker. Batman drives the Batmobile up a building...and then...hangs there I guess...till the bad guys get bored and go home...or something. Also, he reveals his identity to a woman.

Batman & Robin: The end of the Shumacher era. Someone says: "Hey! Let's put the Bane villian in our movie, but make Arnold Mr. Freeze!" God kills a kitten. Epicly horrid one liners ensue. Also, Batman's identity is revealed to a woman.

Batman Begins: Nolan puts his bid in as the first director to make a Batman film based on Batman stuff. Not without flaw, but an Oscar winner by comparision to previous flicks. Also, Batman reveals his identity to a woman.

The Dark Knight: Nolan puts his bid in to be the coolest person ever. Only flaw is Maggie G. looks like a hound. Finally, Batman does the right thing, doesn't reveal his identity to a woman, and we eliminate the last woman he did tell. Beautiful!

BuffaloWilder
07-21-2009, 05:32 PM
Batman: Okay, I recognize that you have to start somewhere. So I give it credit for beginning it all. Other than that, terrible. Nicholson is just doing his imitation of Caesar from the corny tv show, Batman murders dozens of henchmen, and his identity is revealed to a woman.


...you and I come from very different worlds, obviously.

Spinal
07-21-2009, 05:34 PM
Only flaw is Maggie G. looks like a hound.

Uh, yeah. Thumbs down to this.

Sycophant
07-21-2009, 05:34 PM
Hey, women (/bitches), amirite?

Mara
07-21-2009, 05:35 PM
Aw, I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is cute.

Ezee E
07-21-2009, 05:36 PM
Looked amazing in Stranger Than Fiction. Otherwise, eh to meh in everything else, including Secretary.

EvilShoe
07-21-2009, 05:38 PM
Megan Fox should've played Dawes.

Mara
07-21-2009, 05:40 PM
Megan Fox should've played Dawes.

You're just trying to stir the pot.

Mara
07-21-2009, 05:46 PM
You know who was cute in Secretary? Jeremy Davies. I wish he was in more stuff.

EvilShoe
07-21-2009, 05:48 PM
You're just trying to stir the pot.
But Mara: she's not a hound, she's a fox.

Skitch
07-21-2009, 07:45 PM
Aw, I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is cute.

I think she looks great in everything else she's done. For some reason in TDK she looks not so good.

Skitch
07-21-2009, 10:17 PM
I'd also like to add, I have no person I could think to replace Maggie G or Katie Holmes. Who should have played Rachael? Who is a good young actress?

Dead & Messed Up
07-21-2009, 10:28 PM
I'd also like to add, I have no person I could think to replace Maggie G or Katie Holmes. Who should have played Rachael? Who is a good young actress?

Shouldn't have been a young actress. They should've gotten a frigging woman. All these guys are forceful middle-aged men with square jaws and gravelly voices. This series needed Blanchett or Weisz, not these twenty-something chicks with damsel-in-distress roles.

Spun Lepton
07-21-2009, 10:49 PM
I'd also like to add, I have no person I could think to replace Maggie G or Katie Holmes. Who should have played Rachael? Who is a good young actress?

A broom with a bucket for a head could've replaced Holmes and nobody would've noticed the difference.

The Mike
07-21-2009, 11:14 PM
If you're going mature, it needed to be Tits Winslet.

If you're going in line with what the movies did, Rachel McAdams.

DavidSeven
07-21-2009, 11:25 PM
Emily Blunt. She was runner-up for the role anyway, I believe.

Qrazy
07-21-2009, 11:31 PM
Blanchett can play anything so, that.

Ezee E
07-21-2009, 11:34 PM
Emily Blunt. She was runner-up for the role anyway, I believe.
Yup. Perfect.

Amy Adams could probably pull any role off at this point.

Mara
07-21-2009, 11:46 PM
Emily Blunt would have been great.

Sycophant
07-21-2009, 11:48 PM
Emily Motimer could've done it, if they'd allow Rachel Dawes to be English.

megladon8
07-21-2009, 11:48 PM
Rachel Weisz.

That woman could play drywall and I'd pay to see it.

[ETM]
07-21-2009, 11:53 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q201/phoenixcrochet/batghan.jpg

Milky Joe
07-21-2009, 11:55 PM
Rachel Weisz.

That woman could play drywall and I'd pay to see it.

Correct. She would have been perfect.

Skitch
07-21-2009, 11:56 PM
Wow, those are great choices. My roommate and I were discussing it after the movie ended, and we couldn't come up with anyone.

number8
07-22-2009, 12:33 AM
Danny Boyle.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/DannyBoyle08TIFF.jpg

Skitch
07-22-2009, 12:34 AM
Mad hatter.

megladon8
07-22-2009, 12:34 AM
Mad hatter.


No, Rachel Dawes.

Skitch
07-22-2009, 12:36 AM
No, Rachel Dawes.

I was...aw, nevermind. :|

number8
07-22-2009, 12:39 AM
No, he was just announced as the director of the third film.

They say that Nolan can't do it because...

I'm starting fake rumors.

Skitch
07-22-2009, 12:41 AM
No, he was just announced as the director of the third film.

They say that Nolan can't do it because...

I'm starting fake rumors.

I heard he couldn't do it because...

*insert something funny from a sober person*

[/fail]

Sycophant
07-22-2009, 12:44 AM
I'd be interested in seeing a Boyle-directed Batman film, especially if he could somehow get Garland to write it.

Qrazy
07-22-2009, 12:46 AM
I'd be interested in seeing a Boyle-directed Batman film, especially if he could somehow get Garland to write it.

I'd be more interested in a Cameron directed Batman film.

Skitch
07-22-2009, 12:47 AM
BOTH!

number8
07-22-2009, 12:50 AM
I'd be more excited if Boyle didn't cast Freida Pinto as Catwoman. What a terrible choice.

megladon8
07-22-2009, 12:59 AM
Batman by Mel Brooks.

Bill Pullman as Batman. Gene Wilder as The Joker. Marty Feldman as Alfred.

Qrazy
07-22-2009, 01:08 AM
Gene Wilder as The Joker.

This is actually inspired casting if the film had been made a couple decades ago.

megladon8
07-22-2009, 01:11 AM
This is actually inspired casting if the film had been made a couple decades ago.


Yeah that goes without saying. Since he has lymphoma, and Marty Feldman is dead.

The Mike
07-22-2009, 01:46 AM
Marty Feldman is dead.Thanks for reminding me, dickhead. :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

MadMan
07-22-2009, 04:02 AM
Batman by Mel Brooks.

Bill Pullman as Batman. Gene Wilder as The Joker. Marty Feldman as Alfred.That would have been truly awesome. Alas, it'll never happen.

I'd also be down with Boyle or Cameron directing.

Amnesiac
07-22-2009, 04:05 AM
What if David Lynch directed a Batman film?

Saya
07-22-2009, 04:08 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/167jsp2.gif

Spun Lepton
07-22-2009, 04:09 AM
What if David Lynch directed a Batman film?

It would kill the franchise and salt the earth where it was buried.

Dead & Messed Up
07-22-2009, 04:10 AM
What if David Lynch directed a Batman film?

That'd be crazy. Batman could be in two places at the same time, interrogating Maroni in one part of town and criticizing Harvey's coin-flipping in another.

Wait a second...

BuffaloWilder
07-22-2009, 04:10 AM
David Fincher directs an adaptation of "Batman: Year One."

Damn, would that just be perfect.

BuffaloWilder
07-22-2009, 04:11 AM
What if David Lynch directed a Batman film?

He adapts Arkham Asylum. Awe.

Spun Lepton
07-22-2009, 04:11 AM
David Fincher directs an adaptation of "Batman: Year One."

Damn, would that just be perfect.

I could get behind that.

number8
07-22-2009, 04:16 AM
He adapts Arkham Asylum. Awe.

Genius.

MadMan
07-22-2009, 06:55 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/167jsp2.gifI kept watching this, waiting for the moment when Bale would suddenly go ballistic and rip Kermit's head off. But it never happened.

Grouchy
07-22-2009, 08:26 AM
Shaffron Burrows would have made a great romantic interest to Batman.

lovejuice
07-26-2009, 05:33 AM
this guy (http://www.watercure.com/) who is a doctor in something has "batman" as his last name.

Sxottlan
07-26-2009, 08:33 AM
http://i25.tinypic.com/167jsp2.gif

I could watch this all day.

trotchky
07-26-2009, 09:02 AM
this guy (http://www.watercure.com/) who is a doctor in something has "batman" as his last name.

This is a great post.

The Mike
07-26-2009, 02:56 PM
There used to be a "Batman/Sayers Insurance Company" two blocks from where I live. I'd always point it out to everyone and say "Hey, that's where Batman works!"

Good times.

megladon8
08-13-2009, 09:39 PM
I really don't understand today's IMDb trivia fact, regarding this movie...

"The serrated edges on the side of the Batman's gauntlets were inspired by the pulp character Tony Quinn, the Black Bat, whose origin (he was a district attorney victim of an acid flinging gangster) was borrowed for Two-Face."

Kurosawa Fan
07-28-2010, 04:58 PM
I wasn't a big fan of this film.

Mara
07-28-2010, 08:39 PM
I'm almost done with a new baby blanket! It is purple with white stripes.

Scar
07-28-2010, 08:46 PM
When I hear EXTREME, the first person I think of is Mara.