The Match Cut Xtreme Crocheting Thread (and The Dark Knight)

[megladon8]

Then why get it on DVD?


To bring to NYC to watch with Jen, and as a general "lender" copy.

It was only $10, so it's not like it set me back any.

[Ezee E]

Me too. But the player's coming for Christmas, as is my Blu-Ray copy.
Scar gets it before you.

New winner.

[megladon8]

Scar gets it before you.

New winner.


So my DVD copy a week before release date counts for nothing? :cry:

[Ezee E]

So my DVD copy a week before release date counts for nothing? :cry:
Old technology man.

[Scar]

If it makes you feel better, I probably won't be able to watch it until after Christmas.

I'm hopping on a jet to Sweden on the 8th, and won't be back until the 19th.

[megladon8]

If it makes you feel better, I probably won't be able to watch it until after Christmas.

I'm hopping on a jet to Sweden on the 8th, and won't be back until the 19th.


Safe travels!!

[Ezee E]

If it makes you feel better, I probably won't be able to watch it until after Christmas.

I'm hopping on a jet to Sweden on the 8th, and won't be back until the 19th.
You won. We got it man. Now you're just adding salt to the wound. :)

[megladon8]

Can anyone post a link to the FYC video?

[Ezee E]

Can anyone post a link to the FYC video?
It's on the site. First thing you see.

[megladon8]

It's on the site. First thing you see.


I don't see a video here. (http://warnerbros2008.warnerbros.com/#/movies/thedarkknight/foryourconsideration/)

[Sycophant]

Not the official site. The one that's the subject of conversation:


Someone built a site to try and campaign, it shows all the Oscar-ish/Dark Knight stuff if you're interested. darkcampaign.com

[number8]

I'm picking the Blu-ray up Tuesday and I'm throwing a Bat-B-Q that night.

I guess I win.

[Saya]

The Dark Knight looks and sounds amazing on Blu-Ray.

[Qrazy]

I produced the blu-ray disc of the Dark Knight and got to watch it two months ago.

[Grouchy]

I downloaded it into the hard drive that I installed on my brain. I can project it on a wall if I close my left eye.

[Kurosawa Fan]

I'm Batman.

[Sycophant]

I am undergoing experimental neurosurgery to replace my entire consciousness with The Dark Knight.

[Spinal]

Anyone seen this film yet? Is it good?

[Sycophant]

Lawl.

[Wryan]

Anyone seen this film yet? Is it good?

What film?

[Spinal]

What film?

Read the thread title, newb!

[number8]

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5360/tadaahf1.jpg

[Qrazy]

8 dude... enough with the gay Batman comic porn.

[number8]

8 dude... enough with the gay Batman comic porn.

I'm introducing a little anarchy.

[Skitch]

I'm introducing a little anarchy.


Uh...um...

REALLY 8? REALLY?

[Kurious Jorge v3.1]

I'm the Batman.

Proper grammar please.

[Qrazy]

I'm introducing a little anarchy.

Introduce it with fewer implied erections.

[Dukefrukem]

so who's buying this tomorrow? i sure as fuck am.

[Ezee E]

Is it just me, or is there a ton of advertising for this DVD? Moreso than others.

[megladon8]

Is it just me, or is there a ton of advertising for this DVD? Moreso than others.


Some are saying it's going to do for BluRay what The Matrix did for DVD.

[Yxklyx]

Some are saying it's going to do for BluRay what The Matrix did for DVD.

Not in this economy.

[D_Davis]

I am going to watch this movie, maybe on Blu-Ray, maybe on regular DVD. After I do, I'll come back to this thread and tell the people here my opinion.

[Ezee E]

I am going to watch this movie, maybe on Blu-Ray, maybe on regular DVD. After I do, I'll come back to this thread and tell the people here my opinion.
Amazing post.

[Saya]

Is it just me, or is there a ton of advertising for this DVD? Moreso than others.

Yeah, some stores are even having a midnight opening for this release. I think this is the first time this happens for a movie.

[D_Davis]

Amazing post.

I wasn't sure how people would respond to it, but I decided to take a chance. I've been thinking of posting that for months.

[Sycophant]

Yeah, some stores are even having a midnight opening for this release. I think this is the first time this happens for a movie.

Maybe in your region, but it happened for all the LOTR, Harry Potter, I think even Star Wars films around here. A few years back, they were holding midnight store openings for every damn thing.

That line about Blu-Ray sounds like it came right out of the mouth of a WB PR guy.

[Malickfan]

Titanic had a midnight sale for vhs as well.

[Amnesiac]

Does anyone know if there is some sort of a consensus on the "best-looking" Bluray out right now? Did The Dark Knight take that throne?

I remember it was Cars for a while, and then there was a lot of raving about Speed Racer, and then Wall-E.

[Sycophant]

The reason the economy is failing is that the Dark Knight came out and the vast financial and human resources expended in promoting that movie accounted for something like 12% of our GDP. Without that major tentpole in the American economy, I don't know how we'll survive. That drastic rise in unemployment? People aren't selling TDK anymore. It's your patriotic duty not just as a citizen of America but as a citizen of the world to go buy like a thousand copies of the DVD and Blu-Ray at midnight when it comes out. And then when Warner hypes and releases a new edition every four months from here on out, make sure to buy copies then too because if you don't, the terrorists win.

Weird, directionless rant done.

[Saya]

Maybe in your region, but it happened for all the LOTR, Harry Potter, I think even Star Wars films around here. A few years back, they were holding midnight store openings for every damn thing.

That line about Blu-Ray sounds like it came right out of the mouth of a WB PR guy.

Ah, right. I didn't know there were that many midnight openings for movies. I knew some book releases and game releases had them though.

[Saya]

Does anyone know if there is some sort of a consensus on the "best-looking" Bluray out right now? Did The Dark Knight take that throne?

I remember it was Cars for a while, and then there was a lot of raving about Speed Racer, and then Wall-E.

I would definitely put it up there with the best, but Speed Racer still holds the throne.

Here (http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-ray-software-general-discussion/8749-tier-system-blu-ray.html) and here (http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/writings/hdimage.html) are two good sites with HD movie quality rankings.

[Dukefrukem]

Some are saying it's going to do for BluRay what The Matrix did for DVD.

I'll admit, I was googoogaagaa for the Matrix DVD when it first came out. Probably watched the Lobby scene like 20 times in a row. The Dark Knight will be the perfect Blu-ray movie.

[Qrazy]

I'll admit, I was googoogaagaa for the Matrix DVD when it first came out. Probably watched the Lobby scene like 20 times in a row. The Dark Knight will be the perfect Blu-ray movie.

That reminds me what a shitty retread the lobby-esque scene in Matrix Revolutions was.

[number8]

Throwing a Bat-B-Que party tomorrow night.

Anyone in the Bay Area want to attend?

[Ezee E]

Throwing a Bat-B-Que party tomorrow night.

Anyone in the Bay Area want to attend?
What Bat-B-Q themed food will you have?

[number8]

We're shaping the burger meat into bats before throwing them on the grill. Maybe some Joker cookies. One of my friends that's coming is a chef. I'll let him figure it out.

[Ezee E]

Two-faced pizza. One side cheese, one side supreme or something.

[number8]

Two-faced pizza. One side cheese, one side supreme or something.

I had this idea before, but since the party is to BBQ and cook our own food, pizza's not really an option.

[Ezee E]

I had this idea before, but since the party is to BBQ and cook our own food, pizza's not really an option.
True. Enjoy it no less.

[Ivan Drago]

You could have Two-Faced burgers. One half a ground beef burger, the other half a turkey burger. Just throwin' it out there.

[Watashi]

Real life Two-Face. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGpxfoF3SYg&feature=related)

too far?

[The Mike]

Yeah, some stores are even having a midnight opening for this release. I think this is the first time this happens for a movie.

Myself and a lady friend once camped out for the midnight releases of Big Fish and Love Actually, respectively.

So yeah, I win. :lol:

[Grouchy]

Real life Two-Face. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGpxfoF3SYg&feature=related)

too far?
"He was in a fire that nearly destroyed him. In fact, it killed him. And yet he's alive to tell the tale".

Fucking awesome.

[Dukefrukem]

That reminds me what a shitty retread the lobby-esque scene in Matrix Revolutions was.

This is so true. That scene could have been pretty cool if they took it to the next step and had Trin and Morph walk on the ceiling too.

[Skitch]

Not in this economy.

Yeah right. You're joking, right?

[Qrazy]

This is so true. That scene could have been pretty cool if they took it to the next step and had Trin and Morph walk on the ceiling too.

I feel like mostly they just needed a new locale and the bondage clothing was an awful idea. The Merovingian staircase battle in Reloaded worked because it was a different environment than before but Revolutions just gave us essentially another lobby. They should have fought in like a shopping mall with tons of escalators maybe.

[Henry Gale]

The Blu-Ray looks... awful. :cry:

It has way too much edge enhancement and it looks like it has an unnecessarily put another half-dozen digital processes on it. Only the IMAX sequences look anything close to great (but even they some of the same problems as the regular footage at times).

Obviously still a lot better than the DVD, but the rumblings on forums about this in the last week or so were definitely right. An extremely disappointing disc.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I feel like mostly they just needed a new locale and the bondage clothing was an awful idea. The Merovingian staircase battle in Reloaded worked because it was a different environment than before but Revolutions just gave us essentially another lobby. They should have fought in like a shopping mall with tons of escalators maybe.

Actually, the idea of a more heavily populated area would be nice. It got tiresome that no normal people ever witnessed these amazing happenings (apart from the occasional straggler-turned-agent). A mall or church or something could've been fun.

[Qrazy]

Actually, the idea of a more heavily populated area would be nice. It got tiresome that no normal people ever witnessed these amazing happenings (apart from the occasional straggler-turned-agent). A mall or church or something could've been fun.

Yeah the sequels really failed to capitalize on the mystery of The Matrix as a construct in and of itself. I found that to be the most interesting element of the first film. On the other hand the Animatrix did reclaim some of the former mystery of the first film.

[Ezee E]

The Blu-Ray looks... awful. :cry:

It has way too much edge enhancement and it looks like it has an unnecessarily put another half-dozen digital processes on it. Only the IMAX sequences look anything close to great (but even they some of the same problems as the regular footage at times).

Obviously still a lot better than the DVD, but the rumblings on forums about this in the last week or so were definitely right. An extremely disappointing disc.
So we all lost?

[EyesWideOpen]

When i was in target today i saw like 8 or 9 different versions for sale. I just looked for the cheapest one and made sure it was widescreen and got that. I just want the movie i don't need batman mask cases, digital copies, steelbooks, batpods or any other nonsense.

[Morris Schæffer]

The Blu-Ray looks... awful. :cry:

It has way too much edge enhancement and it looks like it has an unnecessarily put another half-dozen digital processes on it. Only the IMAX sequences look anything close to great (but even they some of the same problems as the regular footage at times).

Obviously still a lot better than the DVD, but the rumblings on forums about this in the last week or so were definitely right. An extremely disappointing disc.

I hope you're wrong. God how can they fuck such an important disc up?! Or perhaps that's why they fuck it up. Because it's important and it'll sell anyway.

[Vipper VI]

I hope you're wrong. God how can they fuck such an important disc up?! Or perhaps that's why they fuck it up. Because it's important and it'll sell anyway.

Chances are you're not going to notice much unless you're watching on a pretty large display. I have a 56" and wasn't distracted. In any event, this doesn't surprise me all that much; Warner has NOT been on their game for a while now. Moreover, they're easily the worst studio when it comes to Blu-ray, which is kind of odd since they were once near the top for DVD. I'm not sure what changed.

[megladon8]

The Dark Knight BluRay is getting accolades left and right for its awesomeness, so I don't know what the hell is being talked about.

I was watching it at the store and it looked bloody amazing. Like looking through a window, and the sound was phenomenal.

[EyesWideOpen]

Look at Dark Knight bluray on almost any tech forums and you'll see pages of people tearing it apart as one of the worst bluray releases.

[megladon8]

Look at Dark Knight bluray on almost any tech forums and you'll see pages of people tearing it apart as one of the worst bluray releases.


But aren't these the tech-nerds who sit 3 inches in front of the TV with a magnifying glass and complain about dust particles?

I mean, I'm exaggerating obviously, but I've read reviews of DVDs that tear them apart, and when I watch them on my 52" TV I see little-to-no problems.

I really doubt my TDK BluRay experience is going to suffer.

[Skitch]

I have purchased the BluRay...my first. Hopefully I get a PS3 bailout soon...

[EyesWideOpen]

But aren't these the tech-nerds who sit 3 inches in front of the TV with a magnifying glass and complain about dust particles?

I mean, I'm exaggerating obviously, but I've read reviews of DVDs that tear them apart, and when I watch them on my 52" TV I see little-to-no problems.

I really doubt my TDK BluRay experience is going to suffer.

i'm like you i don't care about that stuff i just want to watch a decent version of the movie. But for people who spend thousands of dollars on home theater equipment i can see how it's a big deal when one of the biggest releases is done poorly.

[Sycophant]

Home theater hobbyists relish quality of image above quality of cinema. While you'll surely enjoy the movie anyway (it's not going to look like Image's Kids Return DVD or anything), for these people it's a legitimate complaint. (I used to hang out at a couple of high profile DVD tech forums and could never quite figure these people out.) As a couple pages ago we were talking about whether or not this was the new reference quality, top of the line, REASON to get Blu-Ray, must-own home video relesae of the year, that it's a technical disappointment for those paying attention to the little details seems like a legitimate point to raise.

[Dukefrukem]

Actually, the idea of a more heavily populated area would be nice. It got tiresome that no normal people ever witnessed these amazing happenings (apart from the occasional straggler-turned-agent). A mall or church or something could've been fun.

I Liked the idea that not many civilians saw these events, but if you remember in the first Matrix, people who did see them, were turned into agents at the ending chase scene. ANd also in the playground Burly Brawl.

[number8]

I can attest to the Blu-Ray being pretty bad. It's edge-enhanced to the max, making the actors all look very unnatural because they have super-bright-and-sharp pupils and features but dark everything else. It just looks badly compressed. The IMAX scenes look great, though, and the audio is phenomenal. I actually wonder if they deliberately fucked up the normal scenes so the IMAX shots would immediately pop up (they do).

Disc 2 special features was also disappointing. It's all stuff that was previously released before the movie came out, like the Psychology of Batman and Gotham Tonight. A doc about the amazing marketing would've been nice. But no, not even a commentary. They pretty much put zero effort into the DVD. They just grabbed the stuff they already had.

[Amnesiac]

A doc about the amazing marketing would've been nice.

Yeah, a behind-the-scenes look at how that was put together as well as the brainstorming and decisions that went into it would have been neat.

I guess I'm now more inclined to give this Bluray a rental first.

[balmakboor]

For some reason, I haven't had the slightest interest in seeing this a second time. *sigh* If I were to do a fan edit, it'd be about 1/3 the length and consist of nothing but Heath Ledger.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I Liked the idea that not many civilians saw these events, but if you remember in the first Matrix, people who did see them, were turned into agents at the ending chase scene. ANd also in the playground Burly Brawl.

But it would've also tied in to Neo's whole mission to "wake up" the sleeping populace.

Ah well. If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride.

[transmogrifier]

For some reason, I haven't had the slightest interest in seeing this a second time. *sigh* If I were to do a fan edit, it'd be about 1/3 the length and consist of nothing but Heath Ledger.

If I did the fan edit, I'd try to create action scenes that were actually coherent and energizing. And I'd get rid of all the times the characters "SPEAK ALOUD THE IMPORTANT THEMES OF THIS MOVIE". So you're right, about 1/3 the length.

The fact this film even has a shot at end of year awards says more about the year than the film.

[number8]

Yeah, a behind-the-scenes look at how that was put together as well as the brainstorming and decisions that went into it would have been neat.

I guess I'm now more inclined to give this Bluray a rental first.

In other news, I rented the Iron Man Blu-ray yesterday after buying TDK and I spent today watching the special features. Now this is some good shit. The behind the scenes featurette is fucking feature length!

[Watashi]

If I did the fan edit, I'd try to create action scenes that were actually coherent and energizing. And I'd get rid of all the times the characters "SPEAK ALOUD THE IMPORTANT THEMES OF THIS MOVIE". So you're right, about 1/3 the length.

The fact this film even has a shot at end of year awards says more about the year than the film.
I think it says more about you as a poster than than the film or year.

[Milky Joe]

I think it says more about the awards than either of those things.

[megladon8]

I'm so damn sick of the complaints about the action scenes being incoherent.

Watch the scene at the beginning in the parking garage. There is absolutely no shakey cam, quick cuts, any crap like that. It's incredibly easy to follow.

The fights in Batman Begins were hard to follow. The ones here weren't.

[transmogrifier]

I think it says more about you as a poster than than the film or year.

That I have a modicum of taste? Thanks Wats, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Man hug?

[transmogrifier]

I'm so damn sick of the complaints about the action scenes being incoherent.

Watch the scene at the beginning in the parking garage. There is absolutely no shakey cam, quick cuts, any crap like that. It's incredibly easy to follow.

The fights in Batman Begins were hard to follow. The ones here weren't.

See, you're making the mistake of assuming coherence is a simple equation dictated by the abundance of shakey cam and quick edits. This is not the case at all. These techniques do not dictate the end quality of the action scene - rather it is the ability of the director (via camera set-ups) and the editor (via pacing and rhythm) to establish both the spatial geography of the incident and make it play like a sweet melody. Nolan (and whoever his editor is) are freaking terrible at this.

[number8]

We really do need a superhero movie with no action scenes.

[Sycophant]

See, you're making the mistake of assuming coherence is a simple equation dictated by the abundance of shakey cam and quick edits. This is not the case at all. These techniques do not dictate the end quality of the action scene - rather it is the ability of the director (via camera set-ups) and the editor (via pacing and rhythm) to establish both the spatial geography of the incident and make it play like a sweet melody. Nolan (and whoever his editor is) are freaking terrible at this.

Oh, man. I'm trying to agree with you more but I just can't.

[Watashi]

We really do need a superhero movie with no action scenes.
Unbreakable?

[megladon8]

See, you're making the mistake of assuming coherence is a simple equation dictated by the abundance of shakey cam and quick edits. This is not the case at all. These techniques do not dictate the end quality of the action scene - rather it is the ability of the director (via camera set-ups) and the editor (via pacing and rhythm) to establish both the spatial geography of the incident and make it play like a sweet melody. Nolan (and whoever his editor is) are freaking terrible at this.


No they're not. The action was fine.

[Ezee E]

The action sequences in The Dark Knight are better than any other this year right off the top of my head. Wanted has a few good ones. But...

[Winston*]

Unbreakable?

Unbreakable has an action scene of sorts, no? With the house and the falling into the pool?

[Ezee E]

Unbreakable has an action scene of sorts, no? With the house and the falling into the pool?
As minimal as it gets.

[Morris Schæffer]

Yay! The score is eligible for the Oscars again!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39390

[Qrazy]

I Liked the idea that not many civilians saw these events, but if you remember in the first Matrix, people who did see them, were turned into agents at the ending chase scene. ANd also in the playground Burly Brawl.

They weren't all turned into agents (ex: Neo running through the crowd at the end of the first) and in the Burly Brawl Smith was a virus so that changed things. A crowded fight would have to be a Smith-less fight ex: Reloaded car chase or Merovingian neighborhood battle.

[Dead & Messed Up]

As for them clearly stating the themes, that line only really applies to the Joker, and he does so because he clearly wishes to be the ideas he represents. Apart from that, there's the "die a hero or..." theme, which explicitly stated twice, once by Dent (flippantly) and again by Batman. And there's the entire people-as-dogs motif which is slyer and smarter than the spoken themes.

It's a bit more than your average action movie, but I relished it, because it reminded me of how the Batman villains truly embody ideas and philosophies.

[Grouchy]

We really do need a superhero movie with no action scenes.
Watchmen should fit that bill pretty well.

[Winston*]

Watchmen should fit that bill pretty well.

Doubt it.

[Qrazy]

Watchmen should fit that bill pretty well.

Um...?

[Grouchy]

Well, what action scenes are there on the book?

MAYBE Nite Owl and Silk Spectre rescuing the people from the fire and breaking into the prison, but those are played for laughs. Definitively not the Comedian in Vietnam or anything involving Doc Manhattan.

Of course, if the movie sucks as bad as I think it will, Snyder will do some action scenes.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Well, what action scenes are there on the book?

MAYBE Nite Owl and Silk Spectre rescuing the people from the fire and breaking into the prison, but those are played for laughs. Definitively not the Comedian in Vietnam or anything involving Doc Manhattan.

Of course, if the movie sucks as bad as I think it will, Snyder will do some action scenes.

Snyder's already said that he's embellished the initial fight and the prison fight. I suspect the same will eventually hold true for the end-confrontation, Rorschach's capture, and the tenement rescue.

[Qrazy]

Well, what action scenes are there on the book?

MAYBE Nite Owl and Silk Spectre rescuing the people from the fire and breaking into the prison, but those are played for laughs. Definitively not the Comedian in Vietnam or anything involving Doc Manhattan.

Of course, if the movie sucks as bad as I think it will, Snyder will do some action scenes.

It depends how you're defining action scene but judging by the book and then the changes made in the trailer...

1. First fight with the Comedian.
2. Rorscharch battling the cops before being arrested.
3. Vietnam
4. The Fire.
5. Prison escape.
6. Final fight at the end of the book.
7. Ozy assassination attempt.

[Dukefrukem]

They weren't all turned into agents (ex: Neo running through the crowd at the end of the first) and in the Burly Brawl Smith was a virus so that changed things. A crowded fight would have to be a Smith-less fight ex: Reloaded car chase or Merovingian neighborhood battle.

I was actually referring to the lady who was bringing home the groceries, but this is for another thread. I'm way off topic.

[Qrazy]

I was actually referring to the lady who was bringing home the groceries, but this is for another thread. I'm way off topic.

No I know what you were referring to my point is that although some people were turned into agents there were lots of other people around them in the crowd that weren't. I guess the way The Matrix is set up they can only have a certain number of agents at any given time.

[Wryan]

There's not much about The Dark Knight that I disliked. Maybe that guy in the lead poilce escort van that wouldn't shut the fuck up. But that's about it.

[transmogrifier]

There's not much about The Dark Knight that I disliked. Maybe that guy in the lead poilce escort van that wouldn't shut the fuck up. But that's about it.

What's the point of casting the awesome Nicky Katt if you are going to have him be the mother of all witless, pandering, "comic" relief bit parts?

[Wryan]

What's the point of casting the awesome Nicky Katt if you are going to have him be the mother of all witless, pandering, "comic" relief bit parts?

Was that Nicky Katt? He didn't really look much like him. Oh well. Still annoying.

[Wryan]

What's the point of casting the awesome Nicky Katt if you are going to have him be the mother of all witless, pandering, "comic" relief bit parts?

It worked in Sin City though.

[The Mike]

We really do need a superhero movie with no action scenes.

Kabluey!

[BirdsAteMyFace]

The film was good. Ledger was fantastic. Yadda yadda yadda.

[number8]

Nicky Katt was great. His reaction to the helicopter always makes me laugh every time.

[Grouchy]

It depends how you're defining action scene but judging by the book and then the changes made in the trailer...

1. First fight with the Comedian.
2. Rorscharch battling the cops before being arrested.
3. Vietnam
4. The Fire.
5. Prison escape.
6. Final fight at the end of the book.
7. Ozy assassination attempt.
Damn.

[Skitch]

We really do need a superhero movie with no action scenes.

How about Superman Returns? :lol:

[Grouchy]

Wait a sec - I've just read the DVDActive review (http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/dark-knight-the2.html) for Dark Knight and, even if it's for the Blu-Ray, it mentions that the IMAX scenes and shots are shown in the format in which they were screened. It sounds as if that's unlockable.

I don't have Blu-Ray capabilities, so I'll be watching the SD. Is that true of that one too? I really don't want the format to keep jumping about while I watch the goddamn film. It's fucking annoying.

[Ezee E]

Wait a sec - I've just read the DVDActive review (http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/dark-knight-the2.html) for Dark Knight and, even if it's for the Blu-Ray, it mentions that the IMAX scenes and shots are shown in the format in which they were screened. It sounds as if that's unlockable.

I don't have Blu-Ray capabilities, so I'll be watching the SD. Is that true of that one too? I really don't want the format to keep jumping about while I watch the goddamn film. It's fucking annoying.
Just the Blu-Ray.

[Henry Gale]

Just the Blu-Ray.

Even worse is that on the DVD you can see it entirely in 2:40:1 and on the second disc the IMAX scenes are there individually in their original 4:3, but the Blu-Ray doesn't have either of those.

And maybe I was too harsh on the transfer before, there are definitely worse ones around, but I could plainly see that it could have been so much better with even just a couple of things pulled back to make the image less sharp in such a harsh and downgraded way. I'm not usually that big of a video quality expert/nitpicker either, just the second I saw it I knew it could have been so much better.

[Amnesiac]

The WGA definitely does not subscribe to the auteur theory. And the folks at Warner Bros. tactfully respect that fact:


But members of the Writers Guild of America have noted that their copies have been altered: The words "A Christopher Nolan Film" on the front and back of the case have been blacked out with a marker.

Defamer has the scoop on it, having noticed it on their own copy and then hearing it mentioned by someone else, too. Kyle Buchanan writes: "We called Warner Bros. to find out [what was going on], and a helpful publicist sighed. 'You must be WGA,' she said. 'It's because the guild won't accept a possessory credit for a director.'"

See, the WGA doesn't like it when movies say "A film by Christopher Nolan" or "A Christopher Nolan film." The WGA figures those credits make it sound like the director made the film all by himself, thus detracting from the invaluable work done by others -- like, say, for example, the writers. The WGA prefers a simple "Directed by Christopher Nolan." So apparently, when a DVD is being sent to WGA members, someone at Warner Bros. has to black out the offensive credit, lest the recipients be offended and ... what? Refuse to consider the film out of spite?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2008/12/dark_knight_sans_nolan.jpg


Source (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/12/11/further-dark-knight-indignities-nolans-name-scribbled-out-on/).

[number8]

I've long agreed with the WGA on this.

[Barty]

It's a good thing the writers of Dark Knight will get credit, and not just Nolan. Oh wait. :lol:

[Grouchy]

It's a good thing the writers of Dark Knight will get credit, and not just Nolan. Oh wait. :lol:
Hahah!

[Wryan]

A Christopher Nolan film*














*including the work done by that key grip that ate my sandwich

[megladon8]

God this movie rocks.

I want to have sex with Christopher Nolan. Christian Bale can join in too, if he's interested.

[number8]

My wife caught me off guard the other night by suggesting we should have sex watching the movie. I'm pretty sure it's Heath's Joker that she's turned on by. I don't know if that's necrophilia or not.

[Ezee E]

My wife caught me off guard the other night by suggesting we should have sex watching the movie. I'm pretty sure it's Heath's Joker that she's turned on by. I don't know if that's necrophilia or not.
Just plain weird.

[Grouchy]

My wife caught me off guard the other night by suggesting we should have sex watching the movie. I'm pretty sure it's Heath's Joker that she's turned on by. I don't know if that's necrophilia or not.
It's probably James Gordon.

[Amnesiac]

And there's the entire people-as-dogs motif which is slyer and smarter than the spoken themes.

What do you think that motif signified?

[Dead & Messed Up]

What do you think that motif signified?

I'm not sure if this is a serious question, but I'll answer seriously: it speaks to the tendency of people to be trained to behave, like dogs. And the Joker wants to eradicate that learned moral system. I find it a smart way to address the themes of the picture, and slyer than some of the Joker's grand pronouncements.

[Amnesiac]

I'm not sure if this is a serious question, but I'll answer seriously

It was a serious question. I've actually seen that dog motif brought up elsewhere but I never really saw anyone account for it. Thanks.

[Dead & Messed Up]

It was a serious question. I've actually heard that dog motif brought up elsewhere but I never really anyone account for it. Thanks.

It makes the Joker leaning his head out of the police car that much cooler.

[Amnesiac]

It makes the Joker leaning his head out of the police car that much cooler.

Ha, yeah, that's an interesting point.

[Ezee E]

Somewhere in this thread, we talked about the dog motif in pretty good detail. Using them as weapons, the shot out the window, the chasing after the car, etc.

[megladon8]

And as I've said many times, I thought it was really cool that they acknowledged how much of a threat a group of dogs really pose, even if you're Batman.

Sick 3 or 4 big, hungry rotweilers on someone, and it doesn't matter how much training they have...they're goin' down.

[number8]

Somewhere in this thread, we talked about the dog motif in pretty good detail. Using them as weapons, the shot out the window, the chasing after the car, etc.

Don't forget Joker tilting his head and sticking his tongue out a lot.

[megladon8]

My wife caught me off guard the other night by suggesting we should have sex watching the movie. I'm pretty sure it's Heath's Joker that she's turned on by. I don't know if that's necrophilia or not.



Don't forget Joker tilting his head and sticking his tongue out a lot.

:cool:

[Dead & Messed Up]

Somewhere in this thread, we talked about the dog motif in pretty good detail. Using them as weapons, the shot out the window, the chasing after the car, etc.

The Joker circles Rachel Dawes and sniffs her.

[number8]

:cool:

Are you suggesting my wife is into bestiality?

[Dead & Messed Up]

Are you suggesting my wife is into bestiality?

I think he's joking about the extensive use of tongue.

[number8]

The Joker circles Rachel Dawes and sniffs her.

Maroni: Take it up with the Joker. He's the one who killed your girlfriend and made you... like this.
Dent: Joker's just a mad dog. I want whoever let him off the leash.

[Amnesiac]

The Joker circles Rachel Dawes and sniffs her.

http://www.thatpetplace.com:80//images/large/241746.jpg

[Amnesiac]

Nolan is jotting down notes for the third installment (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-12-07-dark-knight-nolan_N.htm?csp=34) but I guess he's wary of following in Coppola's foot-steps.


Nolan says he is jotting notes and doing some rough outlines for a third story, but he hasn't yet found anything he's willing to commit to film, despite Warner Bros.' eagerness to get a new film underway.

"It was obvious when the box office was so big ($530 million domestically) that we had underestimated how ready fans were to reboot the franchise," he says. "The worst thing you could do now that you've gotten the plane back in the air is mess up the landing."

[transmogrifier]

I have nothing against Nolan personally, but he's getting worse with each movie.

[Watashi]

I have nothing against Nolan personally, but he's getting worse with each movie.
Following is not better than Memento.

[transmogrifier]

Following is not better than Memento.


I haven't seen Following, so technically, I can still be right.

[Watashi]

I haven't seen Following, so technically, I can still be right.
Actually you can't because Insomnia is not better than The Dark Knight.

[transmogrifier]

Actually you can't because Insomnia is not better than The Dark Knight.


Yeah, it is.

[Watashi]

Yeah, it is.
No, it's not.

[transmogrifier]

No, it's not.

What..we have here is...a failure...to communicate.

[Sxottlan]

Nolan is jotting down notes for the third installment (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-12-07-dark-knight-nolan_N.htm?csp=34) but I guess he's wary of following in Coppola's foot-steps.

I've been trying to formulate some idea of where they could go since seeing the film. The best I can come up with is to have the Riddler (some reporter or prosecutor) investigate the story concocted by Wayne and Gordon about what happened to Harvey Dent.

Maybe he hires Deadshot to capture Batman, I don't know.

That's about the only place I can see the story going.

[Ezee E]

I've been trying to formulate some idea of where they could go since seeing the film. The best I can come up with is to have the Riddler (some reporter or prosecutor) investigate the story concocted by Wayne and Gordon about what happened to Harvey Dent.

Maybe he hires Deadshot to capture Batman, I don't know.

That's about the only place I can see the story going.
I think Killshot is the best way to go.

I'm fairly sure The Penguin will be involved, and it can work, as he'd be the new mob coming into town, stronger than Falcone ever was.

[Scar]

Actually you can't because Insomnia is not better than The Dark Knight.

Insomnia is fucking awesome.

The Dark Knight has a fucking awesome performance by Heath Ledger.....

[number8]

Wanna talk about themes?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/pizzaweasel317/funny/sinfest12-14-08.jpg

[megladon8]

Insomnia is fucking awesome.

The Dark Knight has a fucking awesome performance by Heath Ledger.....


Really? I thought you loved The Dark Knight, not just Heath.

[megladon8]

And I like the style of that cartoon, number8, but I think it's a stretch to say The Dark Knight is a Christian parable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - not every hero story is the story of Jesus retold.

[Ezee E]

And I like the style of that cartoon, number8, but I think it's a stretch to say The Dark Knight is a Christian parable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - not every hero story is the story of Jesus retold.
That cartoon isn't even really about Jesus.

[Sycophant]

Pretty much every Western one is, to some degree or another.

[Sven]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - not every hero story is the story of Jesus retold.

Maybe not. But just as humans and monkeys are derived from a similar relative, so are the stories of Batman and Jesus. The "Jesus" myth has been around since before Jesus was around.

[number8]

That cartoon isn't even really about Jesus.

Yeah, I thought it was clever because it's talking about America's dependence on Christianity, not the story of Jesus.

[megladon8]

Maybe not. But just as humans and monkeys are derived from a similar relative, so are the stories of Batman and Jesus. The "Jesus" myth has been around since before Jesus was around.


Exactly.

Jesus is a fairly standard version of the hero's arch. Which is why I find it so vapid when people equate every hero story with Jesus, as if Jesus created the idea of a hero.

Some superhero films are very obvious Jesus stories in both their imagery and storytelling - Spider-Man 2, Superman - but others are making a big stretch.

[megladon8]

Pretty much every Western one is, to some degree or another.


No they're not.

[DavidSeven]

"The Hero's Journey" is a narrative formula that is used by several screenwriters, and it's rooted in the mythology of Religious figures (Christ, Moses, Budha). I believe the Wachowskis said they followed it religiously (no pun intended) when developing The Matrix.

So while every "Hero story" may not be an intentional Christian parable, these filmmakers are certainly looking at Religious mythology to develop their narratives and characters. And I don't think it's a stretch at all to suggest that Nolan borrowed directly from the story of Jesus given how the ending played out.

[megladon8]

"The Hero's Journey" is a narrative formula that is used by several screenwriters, and it's rooted in the mythology of Religious figures (Christ, Moses, Budha). I believe the Wachowskis said they followed it religiously (no pun intended) when developing The Matrix.

So while every "Hero story" may not be an intentional Christian parable, these filmmakers are certainly looking at Christian mythology (as well as others) to develop their narratives and characters.


OK, but my point is that these religious stories are not the original hero stories. People looked up to the heroes of fiction long before Jesus, Moses or Buddha ever lived.

It's just a bit reductionist to have everything go back to that one version of the story; it's like dismissing all fiction and lore prior to 2008 years ago.

For example - while I acknowledge there being some strong Christian influence in Superman Returns, I found the film to have much more in common with the hero stories of Greek mythology, which predate Christianity.

It's a similar case with Blade. I find the character portrayed in the first film to have more of a Greco-Roman flavor than Christian.

[DavidSeven]

Fair enough.

[Qrazy]

For what it's worth I'm with you on this Meg. As a Jew living in the year 5769 I could give two shits about Jesus.

[megladon8]

For what it's worth I'm with you on this Meg. As a Jew living in the year 5769 I could give two shits about Jesus.


:lol:

I guess my being non-religious has an effect on my seeing these stories as religiously-inspired or not, but whatever.

I find the hero's journey, religious or not, very appealing.

[transmogrifier]

For what it's worth I'm with you on this Meg. As a Jew living in the year 5769 I could give two shits about Jesus.

But not one shit? Or three shits?

[Dead & Messed Up]

And I don't think it's a stretch at all to suggest that Nolan borrowed directly from the story of Jesus given how the ending played out.

How so? With Batman sacrificing himself for the good of the city?

I'd argue that's anti-Jesus, since Jesus died to bring people closer to the truth of God, while Batman sacrifices his image to further a lie.

[Qrazy]

But not one shit? Or three shits?

Classic Christian response. :rolleyes:

:lol:

[Ezee E]

Getting mailed by fans to Variety:

http://www.darkcampaign.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/jokercardsoscars2008xb9.jpg

[transmogrifier]

I used to be annoyed when people held overzealous Fight Club fanboys against the film itself.

But I'm beginning to sympathize

[Watashi]

I like Batman.

[DavidSeven]

How so? With Batman sacrificing himself for the good of the city?

I'd argue that's anti-Jesus, since Jesus died to bring people closer to the truth of God, while Batman sacrifices his image to further a lie.

Broadly speaking, he takes on a burden that isn't his to salvage a city's faith and morality. The details might suggest otherwise, but the ending is familiar on a broad level.

[Sycophant]

I used to be annoyed when people held overzealous Fight Club fanboys against the film itself.

But I'm beginning to sympathize

Yeh.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Broadly speaking, he takes on a burden that isn't his to salvage a city's faith and morality. The details might suggest otherwise, but the ending is familiar on a broad level.

I dunno. Broadly, yeah. But that concept of a hero taking a burden that is not his to protect the rest of civilization is as old as Prometheus. Probably older.

[Scar]

Really? I thought you loved The Dark Knight, not just Heath.

I enjoyed the Dark Knight. Its waiting for me at home, but I'm not sure if I truly love, love it.

[Sxottlan]

I used to be annoyed when people held overzealous Fight Club fanboys against the film itself.

But I'm beginning to sympathize.

The sense of entitlement is starting to grind a bit. And I loved the movie, but big whoop if somebody didn't eh?

[number8]

The sense of entitlement is starting to grind a bit. And I loved the movie, but big whoop if somebody didn't eh?

I couldn't give one, two and three shits if someone else didn't like it, either. Trans or anyone else is welcome to bash TDK's action scenes as much as they want to. I'm in the majority, and when you're in the majority, you automatically win the argument. That's how dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far.

P.S. I'm drunk from our patented Justice League drinking game, so I'm extra-loving Batman right now. Still don't care.

[Grouchy]

Gilgamesh and Prometheus are pretty much earlier versions of the savior myth, so, while I agree that Jesus shouldn't be considered the origin of the tale, it's not a stretch to find the similarities between modern hero stuff and any of the famous "saviors".

And I'd say the ending of The Dark Knight fits that bill damn well, never mind if you wanna call it Jesus H. Christ or Prometheus.

number8, when do you drink in that game?

[Sycophant]

Expanding on what I got out of Grouchy's last post...

Jesus doesn't have to be the origin of the tale for his to be relevant. While Jesus's story is fairly archetypal of any number of heroic/savior myths, it's probably the most widely known and talked about one in Western culture. It may not have been the original, but it's a primary vessel through which a majority of people, artists and consumers alike, are familiar with those tropes.

We come from a Christian culture. Christianity--its narrative and philosophy--influence everything we produce. Christ has more daily relevance for more people than older classical stories. Talking about some Jesus parallels in something like a Batman story (that has that ending, especially) is not useless. It doesn't mean it's a retelling of the story, but it is a way we can look at the story and see its influence. Yeah, we can talk about Prometheus, too. That might even be ultimately more similar.

But if I want to talk about how much I like Larry David's work, I don't necessarily have to bypass such a discussion of his individual brilliance to talk about how he was influenced by Mel Brooks and Woody Allen and how they were influenced by their predecessors.

[Barty]

The Jesus parallel work on some levels, but not on others. For example, a huge part of the ending is Batman points towards Dent for hope, not to himself. Jesus always pointed to himself, never to others for salvation. So it fails on that level, for sure.

[Spinal]

Also, Jesus never wore a rubber suit. As far as we know.

[Sycophant]

The Jesus parallel work on some levels, but not on others. For example, a huge part of the ending is Batman points towards Dent for hope, not to himself. Jesus always pointed to himself, never to others for salvation. So it fails on that level, for sure.

Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that looking at it through a Jesus lens is useless. The Dark Knight isn't the Gospels with Bruce Wayne in the 21st century. But it is a kind of savior story with Bruce Wayne in the 21st century. Examining where they intersect and where they don't is useful.

[Sycophant]

Also, Jesus never wore a rubber suit. As far as we know.

It was when I discovered this that I lost my faith.

[number8]

number8, when do you drink in that game?

You watch an episode of Justice League, and take one drink whenever:

- Batman acts like a dick to other heroes ("When you need my help... and YOU WILL... call me.")
- Superman gets hit and goes down like a bitch (this happens a lot in season 1)
- Wonder Woman says a god or goddess' name ("Hera help us.")
- Flash says something stupid ("Hey! That's a giant dinosaur!")
- Green Lantern uses his ring for something other than shooting beams
- Hawkgirl yells while she's hitting something with her mace
- Martian Manhunter goes invisible or shapeshifts

Bonus: chug for the duration of a villain's monologue moment

Three episodes is guaranteed to get you drrrrrunk.

Hangover. Ow.

[Grouchy]

- Superman gets hit and goes down like a bitch (this happens a lot in season 1)
If this was the only rule they'd still have to pick you up from the floor after only four episodes. I don't understand why the animators had to show Superman getting his ass handed back to him show after show.

Anyway, when I get Season 1 for Christmas, I'm buying a whisky bottle on the side. I know just the right mate for this game.

[Grouchy]

Expanding on what I got out of Grouchy's last post...

Jesus doesn't have to be the origin of the tale for his to be relevant. While Jesus's story is fairly archetypal of any number of heroic/savior myths, it's probably the most widely known and talked about one in Western culture. It may not have been the original, but it's a primary vessel through which a majority of people, artists and consumers alike, are familiar with those tropes.

We come from a Christian culture. Christianity--its narrative and philosophy--influence everything we produce. Christ has more daily relevance for more people than older classical stories. Talking about some Jesus parallels in something like a Batman story (that has that ending, especially) is not useless. It doesn't mean it's a retelling of the story, but it is a way we can look at the story and see its influence. Yeah, we can talk about Prometheus, too. That might even be ultimately more similar.

But if I want to talk about how much I like Larry David's work, I don't necessarily have to bypass such a discussion of his individual brilliance to talk about how he was influenced by Mel Brooks and Woody Allen and how they were influenced by their predecessors.
Agreed 100%.

[number8]

If this was the only rule they'd still have to pick you up from the floor after only four episodes. I don't understand why the animators had to show Superman getting his ass handed back to him show after show.

The reasoning is to "balance out the power," so when Supes goes down you know it's a big threat and the other heroes have to pick up the slack. But it did get really ridiculous in those early episodes. He was knocked unconscious by a fucking missile in the pilot. A missile!

[Amnesiac]

Rachel Weisz is being considered for Catwoman, apparently:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2008/12/weiszcatwoman-(2).jpg


While folks at Warner Brothers and Christopher Nolan are remaining tight-lipped with regards to a third Batman film, rumor has it that a production office for the threequel could open in Chicago as early as this spring (via BoF) -- and now E! is reporting (through one of their sources inside the studio) that Rachel Weisz could be up for the role of Catwoman in the flick. They say, "The next Batman installment is alive and kicking-definitely. We already mentioned today certain Warners sources are leaking to us that Rachel Weisz is being considered for the Catwoman role, too fab. But Warners officially isn't saying bubkes. But other insiders working on the next installment, to follow up where The Dark Knight left off, say it's all so a go."

Now, I don't trust anyone who uses the words "too fab" in relation to a story about Batman, but we take what we can get, right? What this does tell us is that, from the looks of it -- and even though there's probably not a script written yet (E! says it's being written now) -- Catwoman will play a major role in the third film. And, personally, I'm glad Angelina Jolie's name is slipping out, because she'd just add too much "glam" to this role. Weisz would do a fantastic job in my opinion, and if you'd like to see her go a little nutty and eccentric, check her out in The Brothers Bloom.

Source (http://www.cinematical.com/2008/12/15/batman-3-update-rachel-weisz-as-catwoman/).

[number8]

Yeah... No, she's not.

[Dead & Messed Up]

One of the first things that happens in any Hollywood production is that major names are tossed around for prospective characters. Ostensible trivia where you learn that "Cameron Diaz was in the running for _____" means nothing, because all studios have extensive lists detailing the highest-grossing stars, the most cost-effective, etc. All this means is that one producer probably said to another, "You know, Rachel Weisz would be great for that role."

In other words, this - like all the Batman threequel talk - means absolutely nothing.

[eternity]

This film isn't going to have any concrete realistic casting news for at least six months.

[Ezee E]

Or, you know, when the movie is actually official.

[Spinal]

I would go see Rachel Weisz play Catwoman. That would be a draw for me.

[Ezee E]

I'd like to think that it was Match Cut that even started the rumor.

[Amnesiac]

Yes. I was just throwing this out there to see what kind of discussion it might spark. I never indicated that it was bona-fide truth. Hence, my use of "apparently".

Although, if this were to happen, it would be a step up from Cher and Angelina Jolie.

[Ezee E]

Cher seems like more of a fit for the true daughter of Ra's Al Guhl.

[D_Davis]

I would go see Rachel Weisz play Catwoman. That would be a draw for me.

Apparently, the new Catwoman costume is invisible. I think that is pretty cool.

[Spinal]

Apparently, the new Catwoman costume is invisible. I think that is pretty cool.

Now you're just messing with me.

[Skitch]

I think we here at Match Cut should be the head of false rumors for the next Batman film.

:lol:

[Ezee E]

Guy Pearce for Deadshot? He worked on Memento. Let's start this.

[Skitch]

James Gandolfini is The Penguin!

[The Mike]

I heard Joseph Gordon-Levitt will take over as The Joker.

[Derek]

Weisz and Cher out, Eartha Kitt in as Catwoman.

[Sycophant]

Nolan's Batman 3 will be Batman: Visitations. It will be a time travel/alternate universe travel film in which a 1960s Batman from another Gotham (played by Adam West) followed by his various supporters and detractors visits Bale's Batman and surrounding characters. It'll be awesome!

Eartha Kitt and Rachel Weisz will make the fuck out.

[Sycophant]

Also, outside of the fact that James Gandolfini himself wants to get away from playing asshole Italian crimelords, I think he'd make a pretty decent Penguin.

[Duncan]

I heard a rumor that every time someone posts a rumor about Batman 3 a small child dies a long, excrutiating death. So...best not do it.

[Russ]

Nolan to reteam with Robin Williams, who just signed on as The Riddler. Shia LaBeouf to take on role of Robin.

Oh, what the hell. I'll take requests. Anyone?



Could we have more gay Batman comic porn...with implied erections?


http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5538/8189b38cb9531ajh5.jpg

[Sycophant]

I heard a rumor that every time someone posts a rumor about Batman 3 a small child dies a long, excrutiating death. So...BRING ON THE MILL!
...Fixed?

[Sycophant]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5538/8189b38cb9531ajh5.jpg
Not phallic enough.

[Wryan]

I feel quite certain that num8 could point us in the right direction.

[number8]

You'd be right.

[Duncan]

...Fixed?

I wonder what the Hargrove Index for baby is...

[/Engineering joke. I'm sorry.]

[Melville]

What I want to know is why all this batman porn is of such low quality. Aren't there any more skilled artists catering to number8's perversions? And that one with the Joker doesn't even make sense; doesn't Batman have any teeth?

[Sycophant]

I wonder what the Hargrove Index for baby is...

[/Engineering joke. I'm sorry.]

I nearly repped you out of confusion.

[number8]

What I want to know is why all this batman porn is of such low quality. Aren't there any more skilled artists catering to number8's perversions? And that one with the Joker doesn't even make sense; doesn't Batman have any teeth?

True, most of the great porn artists prefer doing lesbian/straight stuff. I quite like these, though:

http://destiny.ponderosa121.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.Download Item&g2_itemId=1370

http://fc11.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/349/e/e/Rooftop_in_searchlight_by_Thun dertori.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/Reashi/motivator9567483.jpg

http://pics.livejournal.com/kingsuperman/pic/00008x84

[Bosco B Thug]

The Jesus parallel work on some levels, but not on others. For example, a huge part of the ending is Batman points towards Dent for hope, not to himself. Jesus always pointed to himself, never to others for salvation. So it fails on that level, for sure. Hmm, there. So there is a ratiocinative reason to those statements that Batman is in fact better than Jesus.

[Qrazy]

God I hate this thread.

[Watashi]

That Joker-Girl fanart is kinda hot.

[Qrazy]

That Joker-Girl fanart is kinda hot.

Until you realize it probably has a penis.

[Melville]

God I hate this thread.
It seems like we all do, and yet it keeps on growing. Maybe some overzealous mod can shut it down due to its excess of batman-related pornography.

[Qrazy]

It seems like we all do, and yet it keeps on growing. Maybe some overzealous mod can shut it down due to its excess of batman-related pornography.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/e/e9/Tv_snl_ambiguously_flying.jpg

[Sycophant]

Can we just makes this thread about superhero porn? We don't have to enjoy it, but I think it might be good to have aroudn.

[Skitch]

I heard a rumor that every time someone posts a rumor about Batman 3 a small child dies a long, excrutiating death. So...best not do it.

Small child lover!


Dwayne Johnson is up for the role of Killer Croc.

Do you smell what the Croc is cookin'?

[eternity]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece

Today's rumor: Eddie Murphy is The Riddler. Hah.

[Spun Lepton]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece

Today's rumor: Eddie Murphy is The Riddler. Hah.

Unsubstantiated Internet rumors: The Sun is there!

[Morris Schæffer]

I just read this also, but in a Belgian newspaper. The article also mentions that Shia Labeouf would be Robin and that Rachel Weisz would be Catwoman.

[megladon8]

Rachel Weisz as Catwoman is a rumor that's been around since The Dark Knight went into pre-production.

And you know what?

Most beautiful woman in Hollywood, and one of the best actresses working today as Catwoman? I'm all for it.

[Dukefrukem]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece

Today's rumor: Eddie Murphy is The Riddler. Hah.

oops... i posted this in the batman 3 thread

[Russ]

I think we here at Match Cut should be the head of false rumors for the next Batman film.

:lol:


Shia LaBeouf to take on role of Robin.


I just read this also, but in a Belgian newspaper. The article also mentions that Shia Labeouf would be Robin and that Rachel Weisz would be Catwoman.

It has begun.

[Sycophant]

Philip Seymour Hoffman as Jesus and Josh Brolin as Himself in Batman 3.

[megladon8]

Josh Brolin would have been awesome for Dent.

[megladon8]

I'd really like to see some of the deleted scenes from this, because it's another case of stuff being shown in trailers and TV spots that was never in the film.

Best example: that first photograph we got of the new Batsuit where he's standing on a cop car. That was actually from a scene, and some TV spots showed it, where Batman is chasing someone, running along the rooftops of cars.

[Grouchy]

I'd really like to see some of the deleted scenes from this, because it's another case of stuff being shown in trailers and TV spots that was never in the film.

Best example: that first photograph we got of the new Batsuit where he's standing on a cop car. That was actually from a scene, and some TV spots showed it, where Batman is chasing someone, running along the rooftops of cars.
The DVD doesn't even have deleted scenes?

I think I'm going to hold out on this one and wait for the double dip.

[number8]

The DVD doesn't even have deleted scenes?

I think I'm going to hold out on this one and wait for the double dip.

USA Today interview a couple of weeks ago:


Nolan says he wasn’t keeping deleted scenes from fans. “For my past three films, I really haven’t had scenes that didn’t make it in the movie,” he says. “If it’s in the final script, I tend put it on screen.”

Any outtakes, however, were intentionally left off the DVD. “I don’t like outtakes or gag reels,” Nolan says. “I don’t think it’s respectful to the actors, who signed on to have their performance on screen, not the takes that didn’t work out. It discourages actors from going all-out if they think every mistake is going on the disc.”

[Grouchy]

Eeeh... I sort of agree with the general idea, but not with the specifics of his comment.

It's cool when David Lynch says he destroys extra footage because he feels his final cut should be the only version of the film that exists and that the film must be remembered as a whole. That I can agree with, and it keeps movies from becoming a shapeless series of Director's Cuts and Extended Editions. I still feel curious about all that stuff, but I think he makes a good point.

Nolan acts like every deleted scene is the result of acting flaws when, in fact, there can be a lot of different reasons why they weren't included on the movie. In fact, it's much more likely they felt they could do without a scene that would make the movie even longer than it is than Bale or Ledger fucked up. Still, it's his movie and it's fine if he doesn't want to release then.

[megladon8]

Regardless of what Nolan says, there's definitely some stuff that was shown in TV spots for the movie that didn't make it to the final cut.

I'm curious to see this stuff and how it was supposed to fit in.

[eternity]

Is anyone else really peeved by the fact that this:

http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/the-dark-knight-3.jpg

Never even remotely happened in the film?

[megladon8]

Is anyone else really peeved by the fact that this:

http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/the-dark-knight-3.jpg

Never even remotely happened in the film?


No.

I can't imagine how they'd fit in a giant Bat symbol burning on the side of a building.

[Spun Lepton]

The Sun says, "Damn it, the Eddie Murphy/Shai LaBeouf rumor came from a really reliable source! HONEST!! Get ready for Murphy as the Riddler, damn it ... even if Nolan hasn't yet signed on for part 3! Shutup..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2008/dec/19/eddie-murphy-dark-knight-riddler

[megladon8]

I think Sam Rockwell would be great...

[DavidSeven]

Heard they got Bogart, Brando, and Christ to play Penguin Henchmen #1-3 for the opener being previewed at IMAX. Lennon's doing the score. Should be interesting.

[Spinal]

I want Richard Dawson to come out of retirement to play the Penguin.

Errrr ... I mean, I heard Richard Dawson is coming out of retirement to play the Penguin.

[eternity]

No.

I can't imagine how they'd fit in a giant Bat symbol burning on the side of a building.
Then why market with it?

[The Mike]

Then why market with it?
Posters for Mr. and Mrs. Smith showed Brangelina on an all white background, but they never walked into Microsoft Paint in the movie.

[eternity]

Posters for Mr. and Mrs. Smith showed Brangelina on an all white background, but they never walked into Microsoft Paint in the movie.

You know what I mean, unlike that, The Dark Knight's poster is a complete misleading fabrication.

[The Mike]

You know what I mean, unlike that, The Dark Knight's poster is a complete misleading fabrication.

Well, that was an overdone example, but I think most posters are that way. If it was something like a United 93 poster that had a Stealth bomber on it, then I'd be annoyed, but this is just harmless advertising.

[Qrazy]

Then why market with it?

Um... are you equally annoyed we don't get to see a series of overlayed floating heads pasted together for the vast majority of films?

[megladon8]

You know what I mean, unlike that, The Dark Knight's poster is a complete misleading fabrication.


No it's not. Do you honestly expect all movies to feature the poster art in the actual feature?

[eternity]

Um... are you equally annoyed we don't get to see a series of overlayed floating heads pasted together for the vast majority of films?

You know that's not even remotely near what I'm talking about.

[Ivan Drago]

lol eternity.

But then again I have no room to talk.

[Qrazy]

You know that's not even remotely near what I'm talking about.

It's a cool shot so I know what you mean but about 99 percent of the time there's just no reason to believe that the poster art will be in the final film. The Zodiac bridge shot wasn't, Office Space post-it note shot wasn't, The Munich gun curtain shot wasn't, etc.

[megladon8]

You know that's not even remotely near what I'm talking about.


Yes it is.

It's just a poster image. It's silly to be pissed off that a promotional graphic for the movie never appeared in it.

[Dukefrukem]

You know what I mean, unlike that, The Dark Knight's poster is a complete misleading fabrication.

There are tons of examples of this, even in trailers they put in scenes that never make the cut.

[eternity]

There are tons of examples of this, even in trailers they put in scenes that never make the cut.

A trailer has had a frickin' money shot of a film and then it was taken out in the final cut?

[Raiders]

Good grief. With every post my desire to lock this thread increases.

[Watashi]

Good grief. With every post my desire to lock this thread increases.
I think it's just eternity's stupidity.