Duke's Top 50 (+2) Comic Book Movies [Archive]

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 01:59 AM

After watching Ghost Rider tonight, I have the urge to rate every comic book movie I've seen. And Since everyone loves lists, it will be in list form. I was going to round it off to 50, but it turns out I've seen 52... so you guys get a bonus and I'll throw in two extra bad movies to talk about.

Sound like fun?

52. Bulletproof Monk (2003)
51. Batman & Robin (1997)
50. Alien vs Predator (2004)
49. Elektra (2005)
48. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)
47. Catwoman (2004)
46. Superman Returns (2005)
45. Daredevil (2003)
44. Men in Black II (2002)
43. Ghost Rider (2007)
42. Superman III (1983)
41. the Spirit (2008)
40. Wolverine (2009)
39. Judge Dredd (1995)
38. Fantastic 4 (2005)
37. Punisher: War Zone (2008)
36. 300 (2006)
35. The Incredible Hulk(2008)
34. Blade Trinity (2004)
33. Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
32. Constantine (2005)
31. Hulk (2003)
30. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)
29. The Crow (1994)
28. Spawn (1997)
27. Punisher (1989)
26. Batman Forever (1995)
25. Spider-man 3 (2007)
24. Hellboy (2004)
24b. Sin City (2005)
23. Blade 2 (2002)
22. X-men: The Last Stand (2006)
21. Superman II (1980)
20. Punisher (2004)
19. Batman Returns (1989)
18. Blade (1998)
17. V For Vendetta (2005)
16. Superman (1978)
15. X2 (2003)
14. Watchmen (2008)
13. Batman (1989)
12. Akira (1988)
11. Iron Man 2 (2011)
10. Hellboy 2
9. 30 Days of Night
8. Spider-man 3
7. Speed Racer
6. The Adventures of Tintin
5. Men in Black
4. Iron Man (2008)
3. X-Men (2001)
2. The Dark Knight (2008)
1. Spider-man 2

megladon8

05-08-2009, 02:13 AM

Sounds awesome.

I totally would have done this list with you, and done a drawing for every entry :)

I'm looking forward to it.

The Mike

05-08-2009, 02:17 AM

My kind of list. :cool:

megladon8

05-08-2009, 02:18 AM

My kind of list. :cool:

It's too bad that most comic book movies don't have boobies :(

Stupid PG-13 ratings...

The Mike

05-08-2009, 02:21 AM

It's too bad that most comic book movies don't have boobies :(

Stupid PG-13 ratings...
True that. Free the tatas, FTW!

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 02:22 AM

Sounds awesome.

I totally would have done this list with you, and done a drawing for every entry :)

I'm looking forward to it.

Ah damn that would be cool. I'm pretty stubborn though. :-\

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 02:29 AM

52: Bulletproof Monk (2003)

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The title itself feels like a parody of some sort, however the movie is quite serious in its "ultimate enlightenment" and "teaching ways". Add Bulletproof Monk to the list of the many movies that try and duplicate The Matrix. Movies that are searching for the prophesied 'chosen one' who can bring peace to the world, and all he has to do is “believe”, Sound familiar? This is of course on top of using 'bullet time', dodging bullets and slow-fast-mo. (or is it fast-slow-mo?)

There is zero character development in this film. The only way this movie feels like there is an antagonist is by spouting out lines like "You may be my granddaughter, but that can only protect you for so long." What is he trying to say? That he would kill his granddaughter because she failed at her mission? Scott cracks a joke here and there but they’re quickly forgettable and Chow Yun-Fat deserves a much better script.

The movie is filled with random action sequences that don't really make much sense and you spend the entire movie waiting for a major fighting scene, but all you are left with is a movie with zero redeeming qualities. There’s even a line.. and I kid you not… “You’re not the only one who’s bulletproof”.

Spinal

05-08-2009, 02:34 AM

There can't possibly be that many comic book movies that are actually good. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with though. :)

megladon8

05-08-2009, 02:37 AM

I have to admit I had no idea that was based on a comic book until now.

I still don't want to see it :lol:

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 02:39 AM

I should also probably mention, I'm including graphic novels.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 02:40 AM

I should also probably mention, I'm including graphic novels.

There's no difference between a graphic novel and a comic, just a hoity-toity attempt at making a comic book sound like it has more worth.

So yeah, I kind of expected you'd include them.

Winston*

05-08-2009, 02:41 AM

Early guess: Ghost World @ #1

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 03:02 AM

51. Batman & Robin (1997)

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It’s almost as if this movie is so bad its laughable. I’d imagine there are a few people who watch this movie every once in a while just for the hell of it. It was cool they brought back Robin from Batman Forever, and then added Batgirl, and put three villains in the movie… but can we really take Arnold seriously with… “Alriiht everyone… chill” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNaDZIrxh-0). Talk about a movie based on one-liners. But looking back at it now, can we see anyone else playing Mr. Freeze? Maybe that villain just doesn’t work on the silver screen, or maybe Shoemaker wrecked the film with flashy sets, bad jokes and… Batman and Robin playing hockey with a diamond? What else? How about no sex appeal from Uma, which is kind of important for the role of Poison Ivy. No matter how you slice and dice, it always comes back to the nipples on the suit. It’s hard to imagine this movie made over 230 mil.

The Mike

05-08-2009, 03:03 AM

I have a strange acceptance for Bulletproof Monk. Is it good? Hell no.

(BTW, you can expect this comment with substituted titles from me throughout the list. When it comes to this shit, I get wetter than Drew Barrymore at a grunge concert.)

The Mike

05-08-2009, 03:04 AM

I have a strange acceptance for Batman & Robin. Is it good? Hell no.

Totally kidding. Though I own it. :twisted:

The Mike

05-08-2009, 03:05 AM

Early guess: Ghost World @ #1I'll take X2 or Sin City.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 03:19 AM

I'm surprised guesses aren't leaning towards another comic movie that I gloat about a lot. I guess my posts are forgettable. ;)

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 03:42 AM

50. Alien vs Predator (2004)

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We saw the alien skull inside Predator’s ship in Predator 2, there has been 2 video games made off the title, so why not make a movie? The one promising fight scene is disappointingly the only one… The predator was extremely badass I just wish there was more one on one fighting between him and the aliens. The possibilities are endless! Why did they stop where they did!? This movie is an example of having a great premise but following the comic too closely (the ending is horrendously bad). There’s also a problem with the script. . It seems from the beginning of the movie that the predators were heading towards the pyramid to begin their ascent into Predatorhood before the humans discovered it. It also seemed like they were pissed off that humans were in the temple. If this was true, and the humans were never supposed to be there, then who would be hosts for the aliens when the predators arrived? Who were the predators going to fight? The face huggers? Lame.

Stay Puft

05-08-2009, 04:28 AM

Bulletproof Monk features Nazi wire-fu, which is some kind of incredible.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 04:39 AM

While it's absolute terrible crap and an abomination to be called part of the Batman saga, I find Batman & Robin compulsively watchable.

Grouchy

05-08-2009, 04:43 AM

This movie is an example of having a great premise but following the comic too closely
Huh? Which comic-book? I've read the first series (the one where the first issue is completely silent) and the one Chris Claremont wrote, Deadliest of the Species. The movie has nothing to do with either.

I find it amazing that a concept as great and as simple as Aliens vs. Predators can be fucked up TWICE by Hollywood.

The Mike

05-08-2009, 04:55 AM

While it's absolute terrible crap and an abomination to be called part of the Batman saga, I find Batman & Robin compulsively watchable.

I can see this. Though I'm also in the Schumacher > Burton (only in regard to Batman) camp. :crazy:

megladon8

05-08-2009, 05:01 AM

I can see this. Though I'm also in the Schumacher > Burton (only in regard to Batman) camp. :crazy:

I thought Batman Returns was freaking incredible. Sure, it betrays Batman, Catwoman and Penguin as characters from the books...but I don't give a crap. I don't have that insane loyalty to the characters where I'll only accept MY interpretation of them on screen.

It's a great gothic opera of images, sounds and eccentric characters. Surprisingly emotional, and I still think it's Burton's best movie.

The first Batman...not so much. While Jack Nicholson was fun as The Joker, I never really felt like he was anything other than Jack Nicholson in make-up. Also, it's one of the worst edited movies I can think of - the movie is a mess, and even as a kid I didn't find the action scenes very exciting, except for Danny Elfman's rousing musical score.

Also, I've always wondered...WTF was up with the almost animated-looking Batman standing on the balcony above the city at the beginning of the movie? Was that just really primitive CGI? I just don't see why that was even necessary. Considering other high-flying scenes they accomplished through trick photography and wire-work, why did this scene need to have that terrible animation? He was just turning around on a balcony and walking inside the building. :frustrated:

Ezee E

05-08-2009, 05:03 AM

I thought this was going to be the best issues ever. That would've been cooler.

Let me know when you get to... 20.

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 05:05 AM

Huh? Which comic-book? I've read the first series (the one where the first issue is completely silent) and the one Chris Claremont wrote, Deadliest of the Species. The movie has nothing to do with either.

I find it amazing that a concept as great and as simple as Aliens vs. Predators can be fucked up TWICE by Hollywood.

What blew my mind was that I thought the first AvP was trash, and then the second one transcended trash and became a cinematic landfill full of old diapers, broken Chevrolets, and all the detritus of a desperate, broken society.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 05:06 AM

What blew my mind was that I thought the first AvP was trash, and then the second one transcended trash and became a cinematic landfill full of old diapers, broken Chevrolets, and all the detritus of a desperate, broken society.

This is pretty much why I like the second one more.

They're both crap...but the second one is at least entertainingly violent, unintentionally hilarious crap.

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 05:18 AM

This is pretty much why I like the second one more.

They're both crap...but the second one is at least entertainingly violent, unintentionally hilarious crap.

Ugh. I just couldn't. I tried, but it was just so incredibly poorly done, and I really was offended by the maternity ward scene. It was such a misguided attempt to be hardcore. "Oh, we just attacked the most defenseless human beings possible! Eight-month-old fetuses! This ain't PG-13, brah! Extreme!"

In no way does the film earn the right to be so classless and mean-spirited.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 05:19 AM

I don't know that I've ever really been offended by a movie.

So yeah, I didn't see a big deal behind that. It was the alien, afterall, and they're supposed to be pretty ruthless. Not like the babies were killed in the crossfire between predators and humans.

The Mike

05-08-2009, 05:28 AM

I started liking AvP on rewatches. Plus, AvP2 made it look awesome.

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 05:40 AM

I don't know that I've ever really been offended by a movie.

If you weren't deeply offended by Batman and Robin, then our internet relationship has reached its conclusion.

Seriously, though. It's over.

Okay, it isn't, but you really should've been offended by that shit.

So yeah, I didn't see a big deal behind that. It was the alien, afterall, and they're supposed to be pretty ruthless. Not like the babies were killed in the crossfire between predators and humans.

Was there any doubt that the aliens are ruthless? That's their job. It's the only thing they're notable for. The Aliens are toothed aggression.

What is gained by such an image? How does it benefit the story? How does it contribute?

It doesn't. It is there purely to titillate and shock. It exploits the image of unborn children dying for a cheap thrill.

I always try to take images in context and give artists the full benefit of the doubt, but FUCK that movie.

monolith94

05-08-2009, 05:43 AM

If I were to cast Mr. Freeze, I'd cast Jeremy Irons.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 05:47 AM

The Mike

05-08-2009, 05:48 AM

I love the story about how Schumacher's top 3 choices for Freeze were Schwarzenegger, Stallone, and Hulk Hogan, while the studio wanted Patrick Stewart. It's so the opposite of every other director vs. studio story in the history of cinema. A sight to be seen, it is.

D_Davis

05-08-2009, 05:49 AM

I can see this. Though I'm also in the Schumacher > Burton (only in regard to Batman) camp. :crazy:

I like the Schumacher Batman films because they actually look and feel like a comic book. They're colorful, a little zany, and fun.

Are they good movies? Not really, but hey...

The Mike

05-08-2009, 05:52 AM

Are they good movies? Not really, but hey...Hey, that's my line! :lol:

One more thing regarding B&R....if Schumacher had somehow cast Hulk Hogan as Mr. Freeze, I would watch that movie every goddamn day of my life.

WHATCHA GONNA DO, BATMAN DUDE, WHEN MR. FREEZE AND HIS 24 INCH FREEZE GUNS CHILL WILD ON YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!????????!!!!! !!

The awesome.

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 06:04 AM

But then couldn't you attribute that logic to pretty much any scene in a movie that isn't completely relevant to the plot?

In There Will Be Blood, we see a huge drill bit fall down, impaling a guy and killing him. Couldn't we have just seen the drill bit fall, then cut to Daniel Plainview being woken up and told that a man died?

That scene builds on the theme of escalating bloodshed, Plainview's misanthropy, and it provides a simple lesson to the viewer about the very real danger of such a job. The scene, and its explicit violence, have purpose.

When you watch Speed, do you feel morally repulsed by the scene where Sandra Bullock thinks she plowed through a baby carriage with a baby in it? Then when we're shown that it was full of cans, isn't that exploiting our emotions by makiing us think a baby has been killed just for a cheap thrill?

No, because the film has not attempted anywhere near that level of violence, and so when the sequence occurs, we're continually waiting for the other shoe to drop. Like all great suspense/thrillers, we're not thrilled by the infliction of violence, but by the suspense, the desire to see the characters escape that violence.

Remember the scene in Speed when that woman dies trying to get off the bus? It's actually handled with class and restraint, and the characters have time to digest it and respond to it. Or how about when Jeff Daniels dies? Yes, it's contrived, but it's genuinely affecting. And once again, restrained.

AvP: R has no interest in its characters or in the craft of filmmaking, and so any worth of the scene on a sympathetic or artistic level is crushed.

I'm being a dick, I know :P The baby killing wasn't necessary, but I didn't see it as something to get worked up about. If I refused to watch films that featured needlessly gruesome violence, my DVD shelf would have a lot more space left on it.

My objection is not to violence, but to needless cruelty that's played for kicks. In the context of this film, it is wrong.

But I digress.

Comic books, yay!

megladon8

05-08-2009, 06:54 AM

Makes perfect sense, DaMU.

I completely understand your problem with the scene, it just didn't happen to bother me and I really don't have any explanation beyond being frightfully desensitized.

I don't even know why we're discussing this to begin with, there are much more worthy films :lol:

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 07:06 AM

It'd be great to see this list include high placement for Tales from the Crypt, The Rocketeer, and that one flick about those watch people.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 07:08 AM

It'd be great to see this list include high placement for Tales from the Crypt, The Rocketeer, and that one flick about those watch people.

:lol:

I haven't seen Tales From the Crypt, but the TV show is phenomenal. One of my all-time faves for sure.

I kind of have a craving to watch it right now.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 12:22 PM

This is pretty much why I like the second one more.

They're both crap...but the second one is at least entertainingly violent, unintentionally hilarious crap.

Wow. I compeltely forgot there was a 2nd one. I haven't seen it. So don't expect it on the list. Thats the only giveaway I'll admit on this list.

Scar

05-08-2009, 12:42 PM

I was extremeley apprehensive going into AvP2. First time, I felt it was better then the first, but there was a lot of times I couldn't see everything clearly.

Then I watched it on my new TV, and I enjoyed it more. In the end, I find myself watching it often.

In conclusion, AvP2 is awesome, yet very, very mean spirited.

Skitch

05-08-2009, 01:08 PM

I think I may have to do something similar.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 02:31 PM

49. Elektra (2004)

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Worst spin-off ever? Quite possibly. Ignoring the fact that they wrongfully cast Jennifer Garner in Daredevil and also ignoring that they felt the need to inject her in the spin-off too (regardless of how bad she looked in Daredevil) this is one of those movies where I actually feel embarrssed for the actress. She brings nothing to the table. Between scenes of pouting and crying it's amazing that someone actually said; "that's a wrap...print it". I put the blame 100% on Garner for the suck of this film, or maybe whomever caster her to begin with. Watching the scenes of her practicing her psis are painful and you see her in that tight red suit not often enough. As you can imagine, there's very few good comic book movies, so for the first 30 or so, I'm just gonna bash the shit out of them.

Fezzik

05-08-2009, 02:37 PM

Dead & Messed Up

05-08-2009, 05:31 PM

As you can imagine, there's very few good comic book movies, so for the first 30 or so, I'm just gonna bash the shit out of them.

Good decision.

lovejuice

05-08-2009, 05:54 PM

49. Elektra (2004)
I put the blame 100% on Garner for the suck of this film, or maybe whomever caster her to begin with.

oh, come on! with that script, even jennifer connelly wouldn't pull it off, neither would sophie marceau, lena olin, juliet binoche, audrey hepburn, kate winslet or judi dench. heck. i bet they can put marlon brando in red tight, make him look gorgeous and even he wouldn't pull it off.
yes, i'm a fan, of garner, but not the movie. :P

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 06:47 PM

I hate Garner.

Mara

05-08-2009, 06:48 PM

I like her. Wish she'd pick better material, though.

DavidSeven

05-08-2009, 07:08 PM

I'm pretty sure Hogan would have given a better performance than Schwarzenegger.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 07:42 PM

I'm pretty sure Hogan would have given a better performance than Schwarzenegger.

Are you just saying this to be funny or do you really truly believe it?

DavidSeven

05-08-2009, 08:07 PM

Are you just saying this to be funny or do you really truly believe it?

I truly believe it. First of all, it's not humanly possible to read those Goldsman one-liners less convincingly than Arnold did. The man's timing was horrendous. Second, Hogan has a built in campiness that would have lent itself better to whatever the heck Schumacher was trying to do. It wouldn't be so absurd to see him in that ridiculous costume because he wears ridiculous stuff all the time anyway. He's also built a career on delivering cheesy-as-hell catchphrases, so why wouldn't I believe he would be better suited to read Goldsman's dialogue?

Scar

05-08-2009, 08:12 PM

I thought Arnold was the best part of Batman and Robin.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 08:21 PM

He's also built a career on delivering cheesy-as-hell catchphrases, so why wouldn't I believe he would be better suited to read Goldsman's dialogue?

Well for one, it's a major motion picture. Not some greasy 5 minute WWF fake-fighting show. And two, did you ever see Suburban Commando?

Grouchy

05-08-2009, 08:38 PM

I didn't know that Patrick Stewart story. I always pictured Freeze as either Vincent D'Onofrio or Hugo Weaving. D'Onofrio would make an even better Lex Luthor.
I like Jennifer Garner, but the reason she's completely wrong for Elektra is that she acts and looks AMERICAN. There's something very American/wholesome shit about her that's not what you're looking for when casting a ruthless GREEK mercenary. Lena Olin would have been awesome, in fact, although the name was dropped more as a joke. She can do mean-spirited.
Rocketeer is one of the best comic-book movies evah!
My AvP nerd show-off act hasn't been answered, Duke. I will now have to kill a pregnant lady.

DavidSeven

05-08-2009, 08:43 PM

Well for one, it's a major motion picture. Not some greasy 5 minute WWF fake-fighting show. And two, did you ever see Suburban Commando?

A greasy WWF fake fighting show is more nuanced than Batman & Robin. And two, have you ever seen Batman & Robin?

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 08:58 PM

Huh? Which comic-book? I've read the first series (the one where the first issue is completely silent) and the one Chris Claremont wrote, Deadliest of the Species. The movie has nothing to do with either.

Sorry grouchy I forgot. I probably was a little vague there, but I was referring to the humans and predators working together. I don't like how that was ever thought to be a good idea.

Dukefrukem

05-08-2009, 09:00 PM

A greasy WWF fake fighting show is more nuanced than Batman & Robin. And two, have you ever seen Batman & Robin?

My underlining point was Cogan is an awful actor, even worse than Arnold. It wouldn't have been the mockery it is today. It would be on the level of Battlefield Earth.

D_Davis

05-08-2009, 09:38 PM

Jennifer Garner couldn't act her way out of a wet noodle.

megladon8

05-08-2009, 09:40 PM

Jennifer Garner couldn't act her way out of a wet noodle.

No, but that sounds fun to watch.

The Mike

05-08-2009, 10:42 PM

I like her. Wish she'd pick better material, though.

Agreed.

Ezee E

05-09-2009, 12:15 AM

lovejuice

05-09-2009, 07:02 AM

Garner's alright. Elektra just had a very boring script. As mentioned, nobody could've pulled that off.

She'll probably be best for her comedy though. Her dramatic roles are simply too "networky" as we've seen in The Kingdom and the movie that starts with a J.
i think it's spinal who said that Juno could have been much worse with different cast. garner is good in that movie. she has in fact one of the harder roles to play.

balmakboor

05-09-2009, 04:56 PM

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 05:55 PM

48. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987)

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More like the 'Quest to Ruin a Franchise'. Where to start? From the escape sequence with Lex Luther to Lois crying "Help" on the subway when she instantly knew there was something wrong, the entire movie is sloppy, ridiculous (even from a comic and Superman standpoint) all the way to the seduction of Clark Kent. And now we get to the antagonist(s). Lex Luther... according to him and to make sure the audience is paying attention he self proclaims; "I Lex Luther, the greatest criminal mind of the modern erra". What?? Something about Nuclear Man? A man born from the sun, including his clothes, and knows exactly where to show up on Earth. Humans breathing in space? Whatever this movie sucks ass.

The Mike

05-09-2009, 09:00 PM

Finally, a movie I haven't seen. Whew. I was afraid I was ubernerd.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 10:29 PM

47. Catwoman (2004)

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A monstrosity. Some of the worst special effects in the past 10 years with that infamous scene where Halley is falling out a window in that yellow outfit and her body looks mangled and twisted as it's falling. As hot has Halley Berry looks in some of those tight leather outfits, and despite the fact that she's a legit Academy Award winner, she could not act her way out of a kitty litter box in this film. Hissing and crying and just being obnoxious. You can always tell the bad super power films from the good. In the bad ones, there is always someone who is all-knowledgeable about protagonists powers and helps them understand what happened or how to harness her powers. A Liam Neeson-esk mentor to say things like; "you were reborn....by accepting all that you are, you can be free". I think this movie could have worked with a supporting hero... like Batman. But to exist in a universe by itself is wasteful.

The Mike

05-09-2009, 10:47 PM

Two straight that I don't own. :cry:

BTW, the midsection of that picture has some very impressive "special effects".

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:00 PM

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is awesome.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:11 PM

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is awesome.

What's awesome about it?

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:13 PM

What's awesome about it?

Being 5 years old and watching it every single day of my life, because I didn't have access to the first movie.

That is what is so awesome about it.

EyesWideOpen

05-09-2009, 11:19 PM

I'm waiting for them to make a good Superman movie.

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:20 PM

I'm waiting for them to make a good Superman movie.

There've been three already.

EyesWideOpen

05-09-2009, 11:24 PM

There've been three already.

Just joshing. I was just checking to see how long it would take you to respond to an anti Superman comment.

I've only seen Superman and Superman Returns and I'd give them both a B-.

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:25 PM

Just joshing. I was just checking to see how long it would take you to respond to an anti Superman comment.

I've only seen Superman and Superman Returns and I'd give them both a B-.

I was afraid that you, of all people, would be the first person I've ever met who disliked Superman: The Movie.

Your rating is still way too low, but at least you don't hate it or anything. Then I'd have to melt your face.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:26 PM

I'm waiting for them to make a good Superman movie.

which leads me to...

46. Superman Returns (2006)

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There's going to be a lot of people who disagree with me here, but this by far the biggest disappointment in comic book movies as of late for me. The movie's effects are beautiful and exotic. The ice continent setting was one of the better environments in a Superman film. I did enjoy Superman saving the 777, but like most movies, effects aren't everything and Superman Returns dragged. I was bored. I was emotionally left out of this movie. I didn't care about Lois and I certainly didn't care about Superman's past which we've visited enough over the series. Ho Hum. Yet again Lex tries to destroy the world and he’s still be released from prison. Don’t we need a new villain?

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:29 PM

While I appreciate that you didn't like the movie, I have to wonder about you saying "Lex tries to destroy the world".

What? That wasn't his plan at all.

I was definitely emotionally affected by that movie. The moment after Lois rescues Superman, and Superman turns to her and says "Good-bye Lois" before flying off...damn, brings me to tears every single time.

The Mike

05-09-2009, 11:34 PM

There were plenty of things I liked about Superman Returns....but then there was the kid.

If a vigilante ever starts taking out bad children actors from blockbusters, don't tell anyone I said this.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:37 PM

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:38 PM

destroying the united states = destroying the world in my book. close enough.

Wow.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:40 PM

Wow.

wow what?

megladon8

05-09-2009, 11:42 PM

Nothing, I'm not going to bother.

Carry on.

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:44 PM

Nothing, I'm not going to bother.

Carry on.

Bother what? What's the problem?

Qrazy

05-09-2009, 11:53 PM

Bother what? What's the problem?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Kt2W4Fqk-i4/Saeq2UQb7BI/AAAAAAAAAHk/hGX3ll0SXv0/s400/srsly-40514.jpg

Dukefrukem

05-09-2009, 11:54 PM

I hope I'm not being taken literal here.

The Mike

05-10-2009, 12:00 AM

Hey, if you guys don't like America, then get the hell out of our world wide web! :evil:

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 12:07 AM

Hey, if you guys don't like America, then get the hell out of our world wide web! :evil:

If that's what they're saying wow to, I meant in my little write up under the movie when Lex was "taking over the world". He was only trying to destroy North America or the US... I said same difference as in another plot from Lex. Sorry Canadians.

megladon8

05-10-2009, 12:08 AM

The USA is not the world.

It's this "destroying the USA = destroying the world" attitude that makes a lot of people around the world hate Americans.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 12:11 AM

The USA is not the world.

It's this "destroying the USA = destroying the world" attitude that makes a lot of people around the world hate Americans.

I guess being the greatest country in the world has its downsides too. ;)

megladon8

05-10-2009, 12:12 AM

I guess being the greatest country in the world has its downsides too. ;)

Wow, again.

The Mike

05-10-2009, 12:14 AM

That all said, I thought Luthor was destroying like half the world's land.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 12:14 AM

Wow, again.

haha I'm kidding. Relax. Why are you so uptight?

I'm only dragging this on because you felt compelled to comment on my Lex Luthor summary. All i meant by it was it was; 'another evil plot by Lex'. Nothing more. I didn't even remember what he actual plot was until I googled it. You're taking this to an entirely new level.

megladon8

05-10-2009, 12:15 AM

haha I'm kidding. Relax. Why are you so uptight.

I'm only dragging this on because you felt compelled to comment on my Lex Luthor summary. All i meant by it was it was; 'another evil plot by Lex'. Nothing more. I didn't even remember what he actual plot was until I googled it. You're taking this to an entirely new level.

I'm not being uptight.

When you say things like that, you have to expect a negative response. It's pretty ignorant.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 12:16 AM

That all said, I thought Luthor was destroying like half the world's land.

I don't even remember his plot. The new continent would have destroyed all over the United States... leaving one giant pile of rock to rebuild on, however Lex would be king of the new piles of rock? Like, destroying the continent was a good idea. Worst plan ever.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 12:17 AM

I'm not being uptight.

When you say things like that, you have to expect a negative response. It's pretty ignorant.

It's only ignorant if that was my intention. You misunderstood me. Or I wasn't being clear enough.

Edit: and it's def. being uptight when you're bringing politics into a top 50 movie list.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:11 AM

anyway now that's behind us...

45. Daredevil (2003)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/45_daredevil.jpg

Cheese describes this movie best. The playground fight scene. Colin Ferrell killing someone with an peanut (and why does he need to stand on top of his motorcycle to throw his ninja stars? Can’t he be so good he can throw them from the sitting position?) Then there is the first intimate scene on a rooftop between Affleck and Garner. He tells her it is about to rain by sensing the drop in temperature and increase in moisture. He also explains that each raindrop makes a sound so it is "almost like he can see again." which is pretty much telling her he’s a superhero to her. The special effects are on and off. Some of the scenes where Daredevil is jumping from rooftop to rooftop look convincing, but scenes in the chapel look like shit on a stick and the poor lighting and shadowy feel conceal the fact that it just actually may be shit on stick. I liked the scenes where you see what Daredevil sees, in his 'sonar vision’. Oh and by the way Bullseye, they don't serve peanuts on airplanes anymore.

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:16 AM

Daredevil actually has some pretty amazing sound design.

I also thought the costume was great. Faithful to the comic book look, and also looked functional in a real-world way. Visible zippers and seems and stuff. It looked like something one could feasably put on in a rush, as opposed to spandex onesies.

The character and his universe have so much potential. Like mixing Batman and Spider-Man, it gives the best of both worlds - dark and gritty plotlines with comic book style violence.

I wish Mark Steven Johnson and David Goyer would have their "Director Card"'s taken from them, forcefully. Those guys are freaking awful. Even worse writers.

Skitch

05-10-2009, 01:20 AM

One of my quests is to own every comic book movie ever...except Catwoman. That film was so awful I will not own it unless it is given to me.

And I own Barb Wire!

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:21 AM

I won Barb Wire, too.

If Catwoman featured Halle Berry and Sharon Stone having nude fights in the rain, I'd probably own that one, too.

Alas...

Skitch

05-10-2009, 01:22 AM

I won Barb Wire, too.

If Catwoman featured Halle Berry and Sharon Stone having nude fights in the rain, I'd probably own that one, too.

Alas...

I'd own THAT! :lol:

Unfortunately, Catwoman is not that.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:25 AM

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:27 AM

I agree about the potential. Is there any chance of a recast/reboot?

Frank Miller said last year that he'd like to adapt his own Daredevil work (which is awesome) to film, with Jason Statham in the lead.

But I think that was more of an off-the-cuff comment than an actual done deal.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:29 AM

Frank Miller said last year that he'd like to adapt his own Daredevil work (which is awesome) to film, with Jason Statham in the lead.

But I think that was more of an off-the-cuff comment than an actual done deal.

Holy Jesus that would be awesome.

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:33 AM

Holy Jesus that would be awesome.

I would love to see an adaptation of Miller's Daredevil stuff on screen, but I would not give it to him to write/direct.

Jason Statham could be good if he could do an effective American accent, which I'm not sure he could do. Also, the Daredevil stuff gets pretty emotional - Miller wrote some tragic stuff. I'm not sure Statham would have the acting chops for it.

Honestly, I often find myself envisioning Thomas Jane as just about every comic character :lol:

But I still think Guy Pearce would be great for the role.

The Mike

05-10-2009, 01:38 AM

I like Daredevil. Bigtime. Just wish they'd cast/used Kingpin differently.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:39 AM

I would love to see an adaptation of Miller's Daredevil stuff on screen, but I would not give it to him to write/direct.

Jason Statham could be good if he could do an effective American accent, which I'm not sure he could do. Also, the Daredevil stuff gets pretty emotional - Miller wrote some tragic stuff. I'm not sure Statham would have the acting chops for it.

Honestly, I often find myself envisioning Thomas Jane as just about every comic character :lol:

But I still think Guy Pearce would be great for the role.

Wow I agree again with Thomas Jane. I really wish they had given him a second chance in Punisher: War Zone. It wasn't Janes fault in the first Punisher. It was the script.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:39 AM

I like Daredevil. Bigtime. Just wish they'd cast/used Kingpin differently.

You mean, cast him so they could combine him in the Spiderman universe too? :)

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:40 AM

Wow I agree again with Thomas Jane. I really wish they had given him a second chance in Punisher: War Zone. It wasn't Janes fault in the first Punisher. It was the script.

Yeah, Thomas Jane was great as Frank Castle.

But, really, I thought Ray Stevenson was a great choice as well. A very different vision of the character, but equally good. It was just the movie he was in and the dialogue he was given that were freaking atrocious.

I'm still in awe that Punisher: War Zone was a theatrically released movie. It was that bad. It was almost surreal.

The Mike

05-10-2009, 01:41 AM

I'm still in awe that Punisher: War Zone was a theatrically released movie. It was that bad. It was almost surreal.
It's waaaaay better than the Lundgren version, though.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:41 AM

Yeah, Thomas Jane was great as Frank Castle.

But, really, I thought Ray Stevenson was a great choice as well. A very different vision of the character, but equally good. It was just the movie he was in and the dialogue he was given that were freaking atrocious.

I'm still in awe that Punisher: War Zone was a theatrically released movie. It was that bad. It was almost surreal.

So where do you expect War Zone movie on my list? :)

lovejuice

05-10-2009, 01:49 AM

megladon8

05-10-2009, 01:55 AM

to humor meg, i really like lex's plan in Superman Return. it's funny. it's lexish. he just wants to make pretty cash, and destroying the north american continent is merely an inconvenient. (and i love his expression when he says, "real estate, of course" or something. priceless.)

Yes.

And I liked the moment when Parker Posey finally wakes up and realizes the damage this will cause.

"Are billions of people really going to die, Lex?"

"Yes."

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 01:59 AM

One more quick one before I go to sleep? Or post it tomorrow with a longer summary?

megladon8

05-10-2009, 02:24 AM

One more quick one before I go to sleep? Or post it tomorrow with a longer summary?

Whatever tickles your pickle.

The Mike

05-10-2009, 02:40 AM

All tonight, sleep later.

Done. :cool:

Dead & Messed Up

05-10-2009, 05:36 AM

That all said, I thought Luthor was destroying like half the world's land.

I thought that whole plan was pretty flipping stupid. The worst part was when he's building it up as some way to make money, and then he cheerfully says that "billions" will die.

So, yeah, that continent's gonna be a real hit with all the corpses.

lovejuice

05-10-2009, 05:40 AM

I thought that whole plan was pretty flipping stupid. The worst part was when he's building it up as some way to make money, and then he cheerfully says that "billions" will die.

So, yeah, that continent's gonna be a real hit with all the corpses.
but that's the charm of a mad scientist! :P:)

Dead & Messed Up

05-10-2009, 05:45 AM

but that's the charm of a mad scientist! :P:)

He's not a scientist, he's a realtor. And he's not even good at that.

:P

trotchky

05-10-2009, 08:28 AM

Hoping the truly godawful Ghost World gets a dishonorable mention.

Skitch

05-10-2009, 03:18 PM

I'm still in awe that Punisher: War Zone was a theatrically released movie. It was that bad. It was almost surreal.

I really like Green Street Hooligans, so I was pretty astounded at how awful War Zone was. I was really annoyed when I left the theater. That movie sucked the big one.

Dukefrukem

05-10-2009, 03:34 PM

44. Men in Black II (2002)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/44_MIB2.jpg

So much potential. Loved the first, and the trailer looked very promising. They had all the pieces, Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones and a goofy reason to get K's memory back. "Put it one... the last suit you'll ever wear... again..." First mistake: Casting Johnny Knoxville. Second mistake: Not being funny. Third: Giant Subway Worm. Tell me this teaser doesn't look awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU0q5yxvlYA).

Dukefrukem

05-11-2009, 01:45 AM

43. Ghost Rider (2007)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/43_GhosstRider.jpg

Filled with crummy one-liners and overacting from Eva Mendas, Ghost Rider fills up the bottom 10 of my list. Try to look past the special effects, and watch Nicholas Cage scream to the high heavens as he turns into Ghost Rider, with his bug eyes almost popping out of his head, and try to tell me that he was excited to do this movie. Driving through the desert? Then immediately after driving through a swamp? How cliché to be where your enemy is the strongest… And to top it off, one of the worst quotes explaining the reason to keep the curse. "Whenever innocent blood is split, it will be my fathers blood... Fighting fire with fire."

The Mike

05-11-2009, 02:22 AM

As much crap as Eva Mendes is at times, Wes Bentley easily gave that film's worst performance.

As a Cage mark, I'm still glad I saw it.

Raiders

05-11-2009, 03:34 AM

megladon8

05-11-2009, 04:44 AM

Yeah, Ghost Rider was pretty awful.

Skitch

05-11-2009, 11:22 AM

I have seen only about 30 minutes of it, but Bentley was by far the best thing it had going for it. Maybe he becomes worse before the end, but in the section I saw, which as a whole was putrid, he was at least amusing which seemed entirely what he was going for.

Wow, I really think (granted, I own the film and have seen it several times) Bentley is the worst thing in the film. Its painful every time he appears.

Dukefrukem

05-11-2009, 09:45 PM

42. Superman III (1983)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/42_SupermanIII.jpg

The opening scene is quite comical actually. The blind guy pushing the street painter, the toy penguins on fire, the car filling up with water and Richard Pryor complaining at the unemployment office. Superman III really starts unlike any of the other three (and that's a good thing) but it's also the most boring out of the three. Who cares about Clark Kent's high school reunion?? It takes forever to get going even with Pryor. This movie could be been cut down to an hour and 10 minutes but yet it's over 2 hours. And then there is the premise: "You know what happens when a planet explodes...debris...all we have to do is find out where in heaven Krypton used to be." That's a fairly easy task. Continue... what else do you want to do? Kill Superman? “I asked you to kill superman, and you’re telling me you couldn’t even do that one simple thing.” Sorry boss. The Clark vs Superman fight went on way too long.

megladon8

05-11-2009, 09:54 PM

The Clark vs. Superman fight was the best part of the movie.

I loved the idea of having Superman turn evil. We'd be fucked.

Dukefrukem

05-11-2009, 09:56 PM

The Clark vs. Superman fight was the best part of the movie.

I loved the idea of having Superman turn evil. We'd be fucked.

They could of had him do more evil things.

megladon8

05-11-2009, 09:57 PM

They could of had him do more evil things.

Yes, they could have. ;)

It's not a great entry at all. I was just saying I like the concept behind it.

Also, the end where the crazy evil lady gets her face cyborg-ized used to scare the living shit out of me when I was a kid.

Dukefrukem

05-11-2009, 10:00 PM

Yes, they could have. ;)

It's not a great entry at all. I was just saying I like the concept behind it.

Also, the end where the crazy evil lady gets her face cyborg-ized used to scare the living shit out of me when I was a kid.

Hehe yeh. Or Superman flying through the Grand Canyon where there happens to be rocket launchers lined up and down the river. hahaha. What National Park would allow that construction?

Dukefrukem

05-11-2009, 10:55 PM

41. the Spirit (2008)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/42_theSpirit.jpg

"Somebody get me a tie... and it sure as hell better be red!"....I like the look, though we all know it's Sin City 2 before Sin City 2 even comes out, but it's not often we see movies like this. They could have put a little more effort into not making it a Sin City lookalike, but it is based of a graphic novel and you can bet there are shots that are taken directly from the frame they were drawn in. I've never read the novel, nor do I ever want to after watching this movie. Is it a coincident that two of the worst movies based on comic books have Eva Mendas in it? Samual L. Jackson in eye shadow? Are those supposed to be tattoos? "You're giving me a headache Octopus", as he gets hit in the head with a severed head. Scarket Johanson is the worst actress of our times, she is terribly casted here. "Imma kill you all kinds of dead" That sounds bad out of context, but he was just hit over the head with a toilet. Yes a tiolet.

The Mike

05-12-2009, 12:46 AM

The Clark vs. Superman fight was the best part of the movie.

I think this is my favorite Superman related thing ever. :lol:

The Mike

05-12-2009, 12:46 AM

And I like The Spirit. Toilets are always funny.

EyesWideOpen

05-12-2009, 12:47 AM

Scarket Johanson is the worst actress of our times, she is terribly casted here.

Nonsense. Scarlett Johansson is a good actress and she gives besides Sam Jackson the best performance in the movie.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 12:48 AM

Nonsense. Scarlett Johansson is a good actress and she gives besides Sam Jackson the best performance in the movie.

That's not really saying much...

EyesWideOpen

05-12-2009, 12:54 AM

That's not really saying much...

Kind of like saying Butcher Bay is the best video game based on a movie.

megladon8

05-12-2009, 12:55 AM

I think this is my favorite Superman related thing ever. :lol:

Yep.

High-fives and reps.

You can really see how Sam Raimi based the Spider-Man trilogy on the first three Superman movies.

Same goes for Bryan Singer basing the first two X-Men movies on the Star Trek films - though this was a little less in-your-face, I think.

megladon8

05-12-2009, 12:55 AM

Kind of like saying Butcher Bay is the best video game based on a movie.

Though in this case, it's actually a great game :)

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:05 AM

Kind of like saying Butcher Bay is the best video game based on a movie.

No because that's true. ;)

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:05 AM

40. Wolverine (2009)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/40_Wolverine.jpg

Maybe this goes back to the Films You Probably Got Wrong (http://www.match-cut.org/showthread.php?t=1999) thread. But I hated this movie. Hated! The one thing I think we were all disappointed with was the special effects. I can't believe how uncompleted they look. The scene in the farmhouse when Wolverine breaks the sink, the motorcycle escaping the barn at the last second, the 180 turn on the motorcycle, the ladder that Wolverine chops to bits as Gambit climbs it.... all looks like shit. Like Shit!! Jackman was fine, the script was lacking. What's even more confusing is the relationship between Sabertooth and Wolverine in the first X-men... did they both get their memory erased? Did Sabertooth forget how to speak? I know they weren't expecting to make three more movies.... I'm probably nit picking there. But this is where Wolverine stands as of right now.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:25 AM

39. Judge Dredd (1995)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/39_JudgeDredd.jpg

To be perfectly honest, I couldn't figure out where to put this one. It's too 'bad' to be in the lower 25 but too 'good' to be in the upper 10. It has comedy. It has cheese Sly Stone action. And it's the first movie on my list with some redeeming value. I don't own it, but somtimes I wish I did. Rob Schneider's great and he adds the level of comic relief needed. In a recent interview with Schneider on the Howard Stern show, he described what it felt like to read the script, look at the costumes on paper, think to yourself, "yeah this can work" and then show up to shoot and realize something, somwhere when terribly wrong. Just look at that outfit!

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:39 AM

38. Fantastic 4 (2005)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/38_Fantastic4.jpg

*instead of a screen on the film, here's Jessica Alba instead*

You would think with a bloated budget, a cast that contained the named Alba and McMahon and combined with today’s demand for blockbuster comic book movies, Fantastic Four would sit right next to X-men and Spiderman. So what happen?

The problem with Fantastic Four is the drive to make the four superhero’s fantastic. To fit the origin for each hero and villain while at the same time making an entertaining story is difficult enough but the film fails to present a constantly flowing story. Most of the time the members of the Fantastic Four are arguing with themselves, mostly Ben and Johnny when the writers should have concentrated more on Dr. Doom and his plot. Besides Reed catching a wine bottle and Susan accidentally turning herself invisible at the dinner table, the foursome have zero idea how to control their powers; but they all seemingly understand how to react to certain situations on the bridge pileup.

The film becomes excessively cheesy in the technology aspect; having a digital temperature reading on the wall when Johnny is getting his temperature taken, is the thermometer wireless? Or having a woman’s voice announce every event on the space station: “Event threshold in T minus 9 minutes”, “opening shield”. Alba as always looks absolutely amazing in anything she wears and represents the invisible woman well. Gruffudd was only cast because he looks exactly like Mr Fantastic and I still don't see him as a suitable fit and the other two members of the Fantastic Four do a bang up job. There was a lot of potential with McMahon as Dr. Doom but for some reason as selfish and stubborn as he is on Nip/Tuck his development in Fantastic Four is barely noticeable. This is just a film that never reached it's true potential. Too many back stories, too many people to follow in one film.

The Mike

05-12-2009, 01:39 AM

I love Judge Dredd so much. Stallone at his cheesiest.

And Rob Schneider is funny in it. Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment, and OK for you!

The Mike

05-12-2009, 01:42 AM

I love the Fantastic 4 bigtime, but the movie was totally weak. Evans and Chiklis were well cast, but they couldn't overcome the ridiculous script and direction.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:42 AM

I love the Fantastic 4 bigtime, but the movie was totally weak. Evans and Chiklis were well cast, but they couldn't overcome the ridiculous script and direction.

Agreed. I can see people liking this movie, because there's great interaction between the characters, but it mostly doesn't go anywhere. And they didn't make Dr. Doom evil enough.

megladon8

05-12-2009, 01:42 AM

Judge Dredd > both the Fantastic Four movies

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 01:47 AM

37. Punisher: War Zone (2008)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/37_PunisherWZ.jpg

This was talked about in the PWZ thread, but what an opening. As bloody as it could possibly be and not too badly done with the exception of the upsidedown shandalear spin. But the movie is beyond awkward. Kidney eating mental patients, a daughter talking calmly next to her mother as she pulls a gun on Frank, and roof jumping thugs getting blown up in mid air by rocket launchers. What I did like about War Zone was how they really put him up against 100 people. The scene with 15 guys in 1 room and the grenade launcher. Badass. Continue that kind of Punisher-esk gun fights, headshot here, missing limb there and you have yourself a comic book movie. I know the comics were filled with unnessessary gore, but does that really need to be translated to the movie? Does it??? I feel like a lot of the gore was put in just for shock factor (the ending scene with Jigsaw). I loved the fade to blank ending. Jesus Saves.... Saves.

Tonight, think about my next 5 entries which I won't be able to update until Wednesday. I've got class tomorrow night until late and I can't access photobucket or any other image hosting sites from work. :-\ I'd like to see some guesses though.

Ezee E

05-12-2009, 02:00 AM

This thread is hurting the genre more than it's helping it.

EyesWideOpen

05-12-2009, 02:19 AM

Judge Dredd > both the Fantastic Four movies

Every movie listed so far in this thread > both the Fantastic Four movies

megladon8

05-12-2009, 02:24 AM

Every movie listed so far in this thread > both the Fantastic Four movies

Even Catwoman and Elektra?

And my point was, I actually kind of like Judge Dredd. :cool:

EyesWideOpen

05-12-2009, 02:32 AM

Even Catwoman and Elektra?

And my point was, I actually kind of like Judge Dredd. :cool:

Forgot about Catwoman. But yeah I would rather watch Elektra then either FF movie again.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 02:49 AM

Forgot about Catwoman. But yeah I would rather watch Elektra then either FF movie again.

Ugg. I don't know how. At least in the FF movies there's dialog.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 02:50 AM

This thread is hurting the genre more than it's helping it.

Haha you're probably right. Wait until we get in the lower 30s.

EyesWideOpen

05-12-2009, 03:11 AM

Ugg. I don't know how. At least in the FF movies there's dialog.

But does the FF movies have Typhoid Mary making out with Elektra? I didn't think so. ;)

Grouchy

05-12-2009, 04:40 AM

41. the Spirit (2008)
I've never read the novel, nor do I ever want to after watching this movie.
Big mistake on your part. Will Eisner's The Spirit (which is not a graphic novel, but a continuing series) is probably THE most influential American comic-book pre-'80s. Eisner basically reinvented storytelling in comics and did bold things with framing and breaking the fourth wall that sadly got mostly ignored by the mainstream that came after. Plus, the world the hero lives in is fit for almost any kind of story, from straight noir to satire and the supernatural, so it's a very surprising read.

Frank Miller is such a self-absorbed fucktard he had material enough for 50 very different and very entertaining movies, and he decided to do Sin City 2.

lovejuice

05-12-2009, 06:46 AM

how can you talk about superman 3 without mentioning that girl who is turned into a robot!? that gosh darn thing terrorized my childhood! and i love both superman 3 and judge dredd. (although haven't watched both for sooo long.)

Skitch

05-12-2009, 11:09 AM

Wow, I thought Punisher War Zone was worse than the five films that came before it.

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 12:16 PM

But does the FF movies have Typhoid Mary making out with Elektra? I didn't think so. ;)

Touche.

Big mistake on your part. Will Eisner's The Spirit (which is not a graphic novel, but a continuing series) is probably THE most influential American comic-book pre-'80s. Eisner basically reinvented storytelling in comics and did bold things with framing and breaking the fourth wall that sadly got mostly ignored by the mainstream that came after. Plus, the world the hero lives in is fit for almost any kind of story, from straight noir to satire and the supernatural, so it's a very surprising read.

So you're saying I should read it? I'm all for it. I'll probably enjoy it more than the movie.

how can you talk about superman 3 without mentioning that girl who is turned into a robot!? that gosh darn thing terrorized my childhood! and i love both superman 3 and judge dredd. (although haven't watched both for sooo long.)

I dunno. That wasn't a big sell for me. I expected something like that to happen when they were talking about the computer learning and defending itself.

Wow, I thought Punisher War Zone was worse than the five films that came before it.

I liked how it began and ended. That's more than I can say about the other films.

Skitch

05-12-2009, 02:14 PM

I liked how it began and ended. That's more than I can say about the other films.

Oh, it's casual. We're debating which poop is poopier. :)

Dukefrukem

05-12-2009, 02:24 PM

Oh, it's casual. We're debating which poop is poopier. :)

:lol:

True. at the end of my list, I'm going to release my actual ratings for each movie. You'll see giant leaps between movies.

Dukefrukem

05-14-2009, 08:29 PM

bump to remind me to update this tonight.

Ivan Drago

05-14-2009, 08:44 PM

"Imma kill you all kinds of dead" That sounds bad out of context, but he was just hit over the head with a toilet. Yes a tiolet.

Come on! Toilets are ALWAYS funny.

Dukefrukem

05-16-2009, 03:10 AM

36. 300 (2006)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/36_300.jpg

Sorry for the delay. 300. The most visual stunning movie since.... Sin City? The Fountain? It looks good. The scenes are remarkable, some of which taken right of the page of the comic... (see photo) but what can possibly distract us from this visual feast? Bulter's overblown wrestling-like statements and hideous dialog that will be forever captured on internet gifs. 300 should have stayed a comic, or at least a theatrical trailer. At least then we could sit back and think about all the cool scenes and epic battles without having to accept the army’s fate at the end of the movie.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 06:28 PM

35. The Incredible Hulk(2008)

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Tim Roth is great, as he is in almost everything he's in... Norton is alright... but the movie lost it's energy about half way through and turned medicore. Then it took another sharp turn into boring when the Hulk started fighting a meaner, pointer spine version of himself. Could there be a blanded CGI fight scene? I enjoyed this movie the first time through, but it becomes forgettable very quickly.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 06:37 PM

34. Blade Trinity (2004)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/34_blade3.jpg

I don't remember much of this movie, but I remember the things I didn't like. I thought the introduction to Biels and Reynolds character was too abrupt. They were already experts on vampire hunting and it even took Blade by surprise…although it still doesn’t impress him. Look at these outfits. Taken directly off the pages? I realize they needed to add some kind of sex appeal in the movie, but this is where the series takes a dive. Will we ever see a Blade 4?

The Mike

05-17-2009, 06:45 PM

I still prefer Blade Trinity, in all its ridiculousness, to the overserious Blade II...which is sad, because I love Guillermo lots. Mostly for the Reynolds and Biel factor. I desperately wanted to see that spin-off.

Bigger flaws were the villains, from Parker Posey overacting to Triple H being a douche to Dominic Purcell being a bigger douche. Le sigh.

Qrazy

05-17-2009, 06:45 PM

They should have gone with the original premise of Blade 3. The world has been taken over by vampires and Blade continues to hunt them.

Qrazy

05-17-2009, 06:46 PM

The Mike

05-17-2009, 06:58 PM

How about the horrible shit filmmaking? In terms of craft Blade 3 is utter piss.

That's true too.

EyesWideOpen

05-17-2009, 08:46 PM

I can't imagine their being 34 better comic book films then The Spirt, 300, or Incredible Hulk.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 10:15 PM

33. Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/ass60.jpg

*Instead of another shot of the movie, here's more Alba*

Yes Fantastic Four 2! I'd hope you didn't expect this movie to be any lower than five down from the first movie. Special effects are better, Jessica Alba is hotter, story is much more complete and comic-book-like. By comic-book-like I like that they actually entertain the fact that Dr Doom was going to help them, rather than to betray them at the last possible moment... such a comic book move. It's got the same cheese level and Johnny humor from the first film. Overall, it’s a lot more enjoyable.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 10:22 PM

32. Constantine (2005)

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I'm a sucker for the devil. Constantine had a lot of promise, it had a main character who didn't need to speak very much (perfect for Reeves). It had Rachel Weisz which is always a plus, hell it even has Djimon Hounsou and Shia LaBeouf! It also had a pretty neat horror like atmosphere and was executed on a level that made the film somewhat enjoyable. I like the universe this film resides in and I was hoping there would be a follow up. Am I the only fan here?

Winston*

05-17-2009, 10:25 PM

I thought the film was basically terrible but I loved Peter Stormare as the Devil at the end.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 10:28 PM

I thought the film was basically terrible but I loved Peter Stormare as the Devil at the end.

We're still kinda in terrible mode on my list. I'm not going to start praising films until #30.

Ezee E

05-17-2009, 11:11 PM

Constantine had some legitimately good moments in there. Very good moments that is.

megladon8

05-17-2009, 11:16 PM

Constantine had some legitimately good moments in there. Very good moments that is.

Yeah, it had some neat ideas considering how badly it bastardized the comic book origins.

But as I've said before, I don't really care about how they translate something to film - if it's a good film on it's own, that's all that matters.

Constantine...wasn't. But yeah, it had some good moments.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 11:28 PM

31. Hulk (2003)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/31_hulk.jpg

The easy argument is Hulk is boring and eventless, up until the fantastic jumping 5 miles at a time through the desert, throwing tanks at helicopters and fighting the entire US Army scene... Is that what we watch this movie for? That one scene where Hulk escapes and goes on a rampage? Someone please tell me a single redeeming quality in this movie.

Melville

05-17-2009, 11:29 PM

Someone please tell me a single redeeming quality in this movie.
Nick Nolte.

megladon8

05-17-2009, 11:34 PM

I found the action to be the most uninteresting part of this movie.

Hulk is a Greek tragedy through and through, displaying how Ang Lee really grasped where this hero comes from and how his plight could be told in a manner not existing in our world, but also not existing entirely within the realm of the unreal.

It's emotionally resonant, well performed, beautiful to look at and takes "comic book movie" into a new, literal direction through its innovative editing.

Yeah, Hulk would have made my top 10 if I were doing this list.

Ezee E

05-17-2009, 11:40 PM

Loved some of the transitions in Hulk. Unfortunatly, there are as many silly moments in this as there are in Constantine, but Hulk takes itself so seriously, that it ends up being the worse movie.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 11:50 PM

30. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (2003)

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Is this an 'EXTRAORDINARY' movie? Not really. But what I do love about it is the setting; ‘past future’ (I think that's what it's called) ....The same style as Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Set in the 19th century, but everyone doesn’t seem to be wowed by the technology that oozing around them. It gives the setting a rustic feel of a team trying to survive where machine guns have just been invented, yet they have these giant vehicles to travel around in that no one has ever seen before. The whole invisible man thing has been done before so scratch that off as being interesting… we’ve seen vampires, we’ve seen Hulk (Hyde), so what’s left? Sean Connery! Where the movie gets really bad is about three quarters through the film; the rendering of the special effects looked unfinished. Maybe they ran out of funding.

Dukefrukem

05-17-2009, 11:51 PM

Loved some of the transitions in Hulk. Unfortunatly, there are as many silly moments in this as there are in Constantine, but Hulk takes itself so seriously, that it ends up being the worse movie.

I found the opposite. But not by much.

megladon8

05-18-2009, 12:01 AM

Even though it's fucking horrible, awful shit, I won't lie - I had a lot of fun watching The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Sure, the same kind of fun I have watching Batman & Robin...but fun nonetheless.

And putting it above Hulk? That should qualify as a crime against humanity.

Ezee E

05-18-2009, 12:22 AM

I found the opposite. But not by much.
Hulk didn't take itself seriously?

Dukefrukem

05-18-2009, 01:04 AM

Hulk didn't take itself seriously?

No. Just that Constantine, took itself more seriously. Maybe it was because Hulk is a much more known character, but it was hard to figure out where Constantine was going next. He always had a plan and each plan felt like it was pulled out of his ass. The mirror scene made no sense.

lovejuice

05-18-2009, 07:59 PM

i'm having a bit of a trouble determining if you actually like the last few films. :|

Skitch

05-19-2009, 01:39 PM

I still dig LXG. I don't understand all the hate.

megladon8

05-19-2009, 10:37 PM

I still dig LXG. I don't understand all the hate.

I do.

It's a fucking godawful mess.

But it's fun as hell watching everyone in it try to out-overact each other, particularly Richard Roxburgh.

"Ah, it's the league...of ext-ra-a-OR-din-air-ee gentlemen!!"

The Mike

05-19-2009, 10:43 PM

I still stand by the belief that Richard Roxburgh and his brides' overacting in Van Helsing is what made that movie special.

And I mean that in a completely non "short bus" way.

megladon8

05-19-2009, 10:45 PM

I still stand by the belief that Richard Roxburgh and his brides' overacting in Van Helsing is what made that movie special.

And I mean that in a completely non "short bus" way.

Sort of in the same way as the Spanish baddie's dialogue near the end of House of the Dead.

GIRL: You did all this just to be immortal...why?

SPANISH DUDE: To live forever!

Dukefrukem

05-20-2009, 02:39 AM

29. The Crow (1994)

http://bigearflux.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/the-crow-poster-c10299388.jpg

I'm tired and just home from class and want to continue this list. So here it is with no real explanation other than I enjoy watching this movie sometimes.

The Mike

05-20-2009, 02:49 AM

You mean The Crow, right? Not the sequel you posted a poster of, right?

Scarin' me, man....

Dukefrukem

05-20-2009, 02:52 AM

yes

The Mike

05-20-2009, 03:02 AM

Whew.

OK, good pick. :cool:

Dukefrukem

05-21-2009, 01:21 AM

28. Spawn (1997)

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The first movie on my list I can sit down and watch with 100% enjoyment. I love this movie. It does not have the best execution and even the simple plot outline roughs up the pace of the film, but I love the interaction between Spawn and Leguizamo. I can hear his voice in my head as I type this...; *picking up a pizza box in the trash can in an ally and opening it...* "ewwwww gross... anchovies!" Spawn is a difficult character to introduce, even if his orgin is a bit of a rip from Ghost Rider, a second film MUST be made and Leguizamo MUST be cast as Violator.'

Here's a treat: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWwZX-NIN5s)

"You're dead! D. E. D. Dead!

BuffaloWilder

05-21-2009, 02:26 AM

Spawn higher than The Crow?

Insanity.

Dukefrukem

05-21-2009, 12:33 PM

Spawn higher than The Crow?

Insanity.

absolutely.

Ezee E

05-21-2009, 03:03 PM

Gave up everything Spawn after the movie came out. The animated series seemed to end there too.

Scar

05-21-2009, 03:04 PM

God I hate that fucking Spawn movie.

I do enjoy Hulk, Incredible Hulk, and Superman Returns....

Dukefrukem

05-21-2009, 04:11 PM

God I hate that fucking Spawn movie.

I do enjoy Hulk, Incredible Hulk, and Superman Returns....

You're really going to hate my next few then.

Grouchy

05-21-2009, 04:18 PM

This list has jumped the proverbial shark.

lovejuice

05-21-2009, 04:54 PM

i too kinda like Leguizamo there. it's your little love for the crow, probably my favorite comic book movie, that demands justification.

Dukefrukem

05-21-2009, 06:24 PM

i too kinda like Leguizamo there. it's your little love for the crow, probably my favorite comic book movie, that demands justification.

I didn't have time to write about it that night and watched to post something but I can talk about it now. :)

I love the style; a dark meaningful vengeance of a life. Vengeance is nothing new to comic books or movies for that matter, but Lee fills the part of the Crow well. I love the street thugs. I love the first appearance of the crow. I love Brandon Lee.

megladon8

05-21-2009, 10:27 PM

The Crow would be in my top 10.

WAY ahead of Spawn.

Dead & Messed Up

05-21-2009, 10:30 PM

The Crow would be in my top 10.

WAY ahead of Spawn.

Top five for me. Beautiful, beautiful movie. Creepy as hell, to boot. Everything that Spawn does wrong, it does right.

megladon8

05-21-2009, 10:36 PM

Top five for me. Beautiful, beautiful movie. Creepy as hell, to boot. Everything that Spawn does wrong, it does right.

Indeed.

It's under-recognized as one of the best stylistic analyses of the switch from the 80s to the 90s. Glam rock and disco turning to grunge. It's incredible.

BuffaloWilder

05-22-2009, 02:15 AM

And, when I said 'higher,' I guess I should have said 'lower,' or 'higher ranked.'

But, come on. That was obvious, right?

The Crow is one of the best comic adaptations - ever, and Proyas' best film.

And, thankfully, it's much better written and cohesive than it's source material which, looking back on it now, doesn't really hold up all that well, aside from the artwork.

Interesting post-script - a couple of years back, I attended the Wizard World Convention that was being held in Arlington, while I lived there. O'Barr was there, and - my god, man.

Dukefrukem

05-22-2009, 03:01 AM

Well, I saw the Crow way back in the mid nineties so it's been a while. I just have my memories. May need to refresh them soon.

lovejuice

05-22-2009, 03:56 AM

And, thankfully, it's much better written and cohesive than it's source material which, looking back on it now, doesn't really hold up all that well, aside from the artwork.
never read the comic, but i like O'Barr's artwork. its morbidity is very unique.

Dead & Messed Up

05-22-2009, 04:01 AM

Well, I saw the Crow way back in the mid nineties so it's been a while. I just have my memories. May need to refresh them soon.

There are a few elements of Spawn that I like, Leguizamo's obnoxious Klown being one of them, but I think you'd really dig The Crow on a re-view.

That said, keep the list going! Good God, man, you have twenty-seven more movies to count down.

BuffaloWilder

05-22-2009, 04:07 AM

never read the comic, but i like O'Barr's artwork. its morbidity is very unique.

His art is great, there's no doubt about that. It gives the book an atmosphere all its own. It's everything else that gets me.

Dukefrukem

05-22-2009, 01:30 PM

27. Punisher (1989)

http://sirjorge.com/blogx/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/thepunisher89dvd.jpg

I know I'm going to get shit for this, but this is my guilty pleasure. (in VH1 voice) "I Love 1989". I love the 80s. I love Dolph Lundgren. I know this movie sucks. I do. I just can't help myself from enjoying it. I saw it way back in the early 90s when I was reading Punisher comics all the time and that's probably why it stuck with me. I don't blame you guys for flaming me here. I'd flame me too.

Skitch

05-22-2009, 02:01 PM

I can't count how many times I've seen The Crow.

Dukefrukem

05-25-2009, 06:42 PM

26. Batman Forever (1995)

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Probably another one I'm gonna shit for but I think this movie is very well casted for what it is. There's two villains and two heroes; I love Carrey as the Riddler, and would love to see him back in the Reboot. I love Jones as two face; of course it's a cartoony version of two face, but it works with the rest of the plot and characters. I also like Kilmer as Batman and Kidman as the love interest. The first thing I think of when I picture this movie, is Carrey in the green suit, and Jones is trying to teach him to punch someone in the face. I love it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7WornrF-gs)

Dukefrukem

05-25-2009, 06:50 PM

25. Spider-man 3 (2007)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/25_Spiderman3.jpg

Despite this film being the worst in the franchise so far, I still feel this is the best comic book franchise within 3+ movies. The pieces were there, it just wasn't executed very well. The Syndicate was forced into the plotline, resulting in an awkwardly paced movie. The Sandman wasn't even a convincing villian. He was trying to help his family... and didn't even come off as 'evil' like the previous two antagoinsts. He was probably a bad guy for robbing a bank, killing Peter's Uncle, but it was made into a big deal by the Syndicate. I love the fight sequences between Harry and Peter, as well as some of the CGI with black spider-man, but the ending fight scene was a bit of a letdown. DId you know the actress who played the reporter at the end of the movie committed suicide? :(

Dead & Messed Up

05-25-2009, 07:46 PM

Question: will the Ninja Turtles movies be making an appearance?

And I think that scientists should do mandatory sweeps of their sand particulation experiments. That was my favorite stupid moment from Spider-Man 3.

"I'm reading something in the pit."
"Jerry, who cares? It's not like an outside variable could effect our experiment."

Dukefrukem

05-25-2009, 07:51 PM

Question: will the Ninja Turtles movies be making an appearance?

Crap. Those are three other movies I forgot to include in this list.

Dead & Messed Up

05-25-2009, 08:12 PM

Crap. Those are three other movies I forgot to include in this list.

No biggie. I just think it's worth noting that the first film is actually a solid little flick. Good effects work, surprisingly dark.

Dukefrukem

05-25-2009, 08:28 PM

No biggie. I just think it's worth noting that the first film is actually a solid little flick. Good effects work, surprisingly dark.

I'm making a list of the ones I forgot to add. Will post them all at the end.

MacGuffin

05-25-2009, 09:26 PM

No, Batman Forever is one of the better superhero movies I've seen, but that's not to say it's great.

Ezee E

05-26-2009, 12:44 PM

One good thing about Batman Forever is that I think that's the best Nicole Kidman ever looked.

Wait, forgot about To Die For.

Nevermind.

Dukefrukem

05-26-2009, 12:49 PM

One good thing about Batman Forever is that I think that's the best Nicole Kidman ever looked.

Wait, forgot about To Die For.

Nevermind.

I remember her being hot too. That scene where she's naked in bed with the white sheets and Batman goes to see her at night stands out in my mind.

lovejuice

05-26-2009, 02:02 PM

i'm not going to broken record myself and compare FOREVER to other movies in the franchise. i'll just say, it's my mom's favorite batman, and we keep watching it over and over again. it's amusing and fun.

Dukefrukem

05-27-2009, 12:33 AM

lovejuice

05-27-2009, 12:35 AM

i like hellboy. doesn't have a chance yet to watch the sequel though.

Dead & Messed Up

05-27-2009, 12:38 AM

24. Hellboy (2004)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/24_Hellboy.jpg

Del Toro Blew my mind with some of the character designs and visuals he brought to life. Ron Perlman who I thought was a pretty tough badass in Alien: Resurrection and Blade 2 was perfect for this role. The kind of smartass attitude fit perfect. But the story was where the movie lacked; the pacing is slow... and the movie does not appeal to viewers who are unfamiliar with the Hellboy character. Is he immortal? Can he be defeated? I don't think this was very well depicted (in this movie), and therefore I felt no fear for him. I couldn't be sucked into the story as well as I wanted to be. This was fixed in the sequel.

In retrospect, it's not that great. They really mangle the Seed of Destruction plot, and after you've seen one Sammael fight, you've seen 'em all. But you're right about Perlman - it's his wiseass attitude that makes the film fresh and lively.

That and the enormous Lovecraftian beast at the end.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MryQii-dvu8/SHoTRTUDh-I/AAAAAAAADKk/JkMqCxKS4c8/s400/Hellboy%2BMonster%2BMouth.PNG

Dukefrukem

05-27-2009, 12:43 AM

That and the enormous Lovecraftian beast at the end.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MryQii-dvu8/SHoTRTUDh-I/AAAAAAAADKk/JkMqCxKS4c8/s400/Hellboy%2BMonster%2BMouth.PNG

I liked his comment about it; "How big could it be?" <as he is grabbed down a tunnel>

I still watch this movie when it's on TV. It's one of those movies that could be so much better. I think Del Toro was just getting his feet wet.

Sycophant

05-27-2009, 12:45 AM

Man, I cannot agree that that was fixed in the sequel. If anything, it was made worse. Sure, he comes closer to dying, but the let's-play-make-believe deus ex machinas were dizzying and made it hard to invest myself in the film.

Dukefrukem

05-27-2009, 12:48 AM

23. Sin City (2005)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/23_SinCity.jpg

The first (and last) Frank Miller adaptation to blow minds; I love the art style, i love the narration. And it's the return of Mickey Rourke; Probably one of the most badass anti-heros to hit the big screen. All three short stories are enjoyable, especially the ones with Jessica Alba. Bruce Willis does his part, so does Clive Owen. The cast is profound and huge. The weakness? You can tell the dialog belongs in a comic book; "Get me a hardtop with a decent engine and make sure it's got a big trunk"

Dukefrukem

05-27-2009, 01:03 AM

22. Blade 2 (2002)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Movie_Top50_Comic/22_Blade2.jpg

Let's get past the horrendous CGI samurai fight in front of the flood lights to open this movie. It's the return of Blade and the intro to Guillermo del Toro into my life. I was a closet fan of Mimic and Devil's Backbone before seeing Blade 2 (even though I had no idea he directed those films), and even though I was a bit disappointed with the overall story, I still enjoyed where the franchise was going. Blade does have a very arrogant attitude, which Snipes does will of depicting, in Blade's defense, he's always being challenge or not trusted or always has a vampire who wants him dead, in this case he's being challenged by Perlman. I love the new mutated vampires, but I wasn't too thrilled with Blade teaming up with other vampires. Who cares that the Reapers were killing off all the Vampires. That's what Blade wants to happen. It's not like Blade can't take out a Reaper if he wants. Whatever. It's a fun movie.

megladon8

05-27-2009, 02:37 AM

Bah. Another that would be in my top 10.

BuffaloWilder

05-27-2009, 02:37 AM

Bah. Another that would be in my top 10.

Blade II would be in your top ten superhero films? Really?

The Mike

05-27-2009, 03:07 AM

I complained about it earlier, but I will again. Blade II just doesn't work for me. I didn't like the direction it took the series after the first film, the action was goofy, and it was too damn long. The Reapers were a cool addition, but it just never got me as excited as the first one did. Big disappointment (that I still own and have seen multiple times).

Dead & Messed Up

05-27-2009, 03:19 AM

Blade II would be in your top ten superhero films? Really?

I was just trying to think of what could edge it out, and then I decided fuck it, so I threw together my top ten comic book movies.

Batman Begins
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
The Crow
The Dark Knight
Ghost World
Iron Man
Sin City
Spider-Man 2
Superman
Tales from the Crypt
Watchmen

Ezee E

05-27-2009, 05:23 AM

I'll go out and say that there's a few masterful moments in Blade 2. It's that damn WWE fight in the end though.

Dukefrukem

05-27-2009, 12:05 PM

I was just trying to think of what could edge it out, and then I decided fuck it, so I threw together my top ten comic book movies.

Batman Begins
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
The Crow
The Dark Knight
Ghost World
Iron Man
Sin City
Spider-Man 2
Superman
Tales from the Crypt
Watchmen

*sigh*

noticed another I forgot to include....

megladon8

05-27-2009, 01:27 PM

Blade II would be in your top ten superhero films? Really?

Yes.

lovejuice

05-27-2009, 04:32 PM

*sigh*

noticed another I forgot to include....

understandable. it's only natural that you haven't thought of the dark knight the first time around.

Dukefrukem

07-30-2010, 12:23 PM

I never finished this list, and all this talk about Superhero films was angering me so I'm reviving it and adding more movies....

Dukefrukem

07-30-2010, 01:02 PM

22. X-men: The Last Stand (2006)

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The casting I did like a lot; Ellen Page as Kitty, Kelsey Grammer as Beast! Vinnie Jones as; "I'm the Juggernaut Bitch!". Some of the special effects were well done, (the Golden Gate Bridge scene) but I did not like how quickly they sped through the Phoenix Saga plot. There was still a lot of areas to cover and they crammed 5 or 6 story lines in one movie; the final mutant battle was the weakest of the three movies and The Last Stand is a case where this movie will appeal much more to people who knew nothing of the X-men story before seeing the films. Not saying I'm an expert by any means, but I do not think Ratner had the ability bridge the gap between the fans and the general pop. Definitely the weakest of the three movies.

Dukefrukem

07-30-2010, 06:52 PM

21. Superman II (1980)

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This picture describes the awesomness of this movie. Superman battling true villains, ones that are actually a challenge for Superman. I love the fight in the middle of the city. What I DIDN'T like is when Superman threw that Cellophane S at the bad guy... "that was a minor inconvenience".

wI1UVDOuMqE

Dukefrukem

07-30-2010, 07:01 PM

20. Punisher (2004)

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Thomas Jane? Check! John Travolta? Check! (He plays good bad guys) Great opening? Check! Worst CGI ending in the history of all movies? :rolleyes:

TJLOHXyhNdU

lovejuice

07-31-2010, 04:56 PM

22. X-men: The Last Stand (2006)

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The Last Stand is a case where this movie will appeal much more to people who knew nothing of the X-men story before seeing the films.
from experience I agree with this statement. the movie does a poor job appealing to fans, but from a layman perspective, it's not that far worse from the first two.

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07-31-2010, 05:09 PM

from a layman perspective, it's not that far worse from the first two.

If he happens to be oblivious to basic logic, yes.

jenniferofthejungle

07-31-2010, 06:19 PM

Great thread. I can't believe I missed this.

*goes back to reading*

Dukefrukem

07-31-2010, 07:07 PM

I'm also throwing in a twist, when I get to #1.

Dukefrukem

08-02-2010, 12:32 PM

19. Batman Returns (1989)

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I have a soft spot for Burton's second take at the Batman series. This movie scared the shit outta me when I was kid; DeVito does a pretty good job making the penguin out to be a gross freak of nature... eating raw fish, his bluish/gray lips and just by the dark style of the movie you can tell it's Burton behind the camera. Even Selina's transformation into Catwoman is well done. (clip below). The main threat of the movie was a bit over the top, but I can easily ignore it when I see Keaton as the batman. Solid sequel. Burton should have done Batman Forever.

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Dukefrukem

08-02-2010, 12:35 PM

18. Blade (1998)

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Could this possibly be the first well crafted modern comic book movie? I'm not saying that the over-saturated market today is a result of Blade, but Blade had a lot of influence on other movies. Look at the Matrix for example, three major influence pulled directly from Blade? 1) Black trench coats, 2) Jumping from building to building 3) Dodging bullets. A rare example where a weak comic is adapted into a solid MMP.

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Dukefrukem

08-05-2010, 05:25 PM

17. V For Vendetta (2005)

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eah I might be a little bit of a Wachowski Brothers fanboy after the Matrix trilogy and there are a lot of movies out there that have a heavy hand in polotical stance, but is the first political movie that is actually fun to watch? If you can get past the "Conservativ vs Liberal" messages without rolling your eyes V for Vendetta is filled with real world symbolism, a lot of which I was unaware of until reading about character names are references after the fact; I also am a huge fan of the Count of Monte Cristo, to which V for Vendetta creates similar parrallesl to.

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Dukefrukem

08-05-2010, 05:37 PM

16. Superman (1978)

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Great opening, great build up, great classic 'superman saves pedestrian A because he fell off a cliff' and 'superman saves train by letting the train drive over him'... great Lex Luthor trying to cripple the United States as usual.... great 'back in time' ending... great film. My favorite scene below (in Spanish :( ).

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