The Google/Android Discussion Thread

[Dukefrukem]

It's amazing... try it quick!

http://www.google.com/chrome/

[Lasse]

I hadn't even heard about it until now. I'll wait for some word of mouth.

[chrisnu]

It's my fault for being dependent on third-party software, but if it doesn't natively support Roboform, I can't use it. On a first look, it doesn't appear that it does.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Doesn't work well with my laptop's touch pad. After some investigating, it seems any Synaptics touch pad won't function properly. I can only scroll down, not up, and the scroll is way too fast. It won't read my default touch pad settings, and it can't be adjusted. Until they fix those bugs, it's useless to me.

[Wryan]

Thumbnails for my top-visited sites? I don't think so. :eek:

[Kurosawa Fan]

Thumbnails for my top-visited sites? I don't think so. :eek:

There's an Incognito mode for this.. issue.

[Sycophant]

I think I like this. I'm dubious about Firefox 3's improvements and this runs pretty smoothly. Looking forward to a bit more customizaiton as time goes on, though. It's Google. It'll ultimately be the best thing ever.

[Dukefrukem]

I think I like this. I'm dubious about Firefox 3's improvements and this runs pretty smoothly. Looking forward to a bit more customizaiton as time goes on, though. It's Google. It'll ultimately be the best thing ever.

instead of opening up 1 processes, and filling it with RAM on your pC, it opens up a processes for each tab you have... it allows for multitasking to be MUCH faster... and you can feel it instantly...

but you guys are right, it does have a lot of bugs.

[Wryan]

There's an Incognito mode for this.. issue.

They must shop at S-MART!

[monolith94]

Using it right now, haven't encountered anything too fuzzy.

[Dukefrukem]

It boggles my mind that anyone else would ever use anything that isn't Chrome.

[[ETM]]

Yeah, even with all the improvements, it has stayed as sleek and clutter-free as ever.

[shaun]

Not seeing the appeal of the new Chromebook initiative other than as a mild alternative to netbooks. No local storage and laptop form factor that can only run Chrome.

I guess because it's Google but really the amount of press this has generated is sort of baffling to me.

[Dukefrukem]

Not seeing the appeal of the new Chromebook initiative other than as a mild alternative to netbooks. No local storage and laptop form factor that can only run Chrome.

I guess because it's Google but really the amount of press this has generated is sort of baffling to me.

It's an attempt to reform the market. Imagine what's going to happen to notebooks/laptops if successful?

For $300, I'll give it a go. Maybe even $500 since it's google.

[Dukefrukem]

;344335']Yeah, even with all the improvements, it has stayed as sleek and clutter-free as ever.

Not sure if people know, but Angry Birds is now free using the Chrome app store.

And BTW, the app store is fucking fantastic. So many useful apps.add ons for Chrome that make the internet so much easier and faster.

[shaun]

It's an attempt to reform the market. Imagine what's going to happen to notebooks/laptops if successful?I don't see it as creating a new market but rather sliding into the existing netbook/tablet one that's taking over machines that are being strictly used for web content. Power users are still going to require laptops/desktops.

[megladon8]

I still use Opera.

[Dukefrukem]

I don't see it as creating a new market but rather sliding into the existing netbook/tablet one that's taking over machines that are being strictly used for web content. Power users are still going to require laptops/desktops.

I think your underestimating this. Think of people who want to use a tablet for web browsing, but still want that tactical keyboard built in. They're out there.

[Dukefrukem]

I still use Opera.

It's a good number 2 to have I suppose. ( in terms of speed)

The applications it comes with however do not come close to comparison.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yh8YT1kEoHw/TZKpVQ5cl-I/AAAAAAAAAFM/GE_VyA-WXQo/s1600/peacekeeper+tests+mar11+q6600. jpg

[megladon8]

I downloaded Chrome about 2 months ago and it didn't work. A blank page, and I couldn't figure out why it wasn't letting me navigate at all. I would enter a URL and it would load, but just another blank page.

So I was like "fuck this, back to Opera".

[Yxklyx]

I've been using Chrome for a couple of months now. I feel like I'm back in the 90s again! It's an awesome little program.

I only have two issues with it. Can't find an auto-refresh plugin and copy and paste highlights things oddly. Also, Netflix doesn't work that great with it. I use it both on Linux and Windows XP.

Opera is still OK. Firefox is awful at the moment - I'd rather use IE than super bloated Firefox that needs to be killed every 24 hours.

[Ezee E]

Any apps that I should be aware of on Chrome?

Been using it for well over a year. The tab system and quickness outdoes all the other browsers.

[Acapelli]

switched to chrome a few months back. nice to have something so much faster and lighter, but it's annoying that they haven't figured out how to make skipscreen or the cavern links checker (two essential extensions for the modern pirate) to work properly on it

first world problems

[megladon8]

Just tried to download and use Chrome again for shits n giggles.

It officially does not work on my computer.

Downloaded, opened it. Nothing worked, like the first time I used it. Just had a big navy blue screen that said "Something went wrong. To learn more, click here" and when I clicked it, it just opened another navy blue window that said the same thing.

Then my computer froze and restarted automatically.

And now I cannot even open the program.

Yeah, I'll stick with Opera thank you very much.

[eternity]

It boggles my mind that anyone else would ever use anything that isn't Chrome.
Every new tab in Chrome creates a new process that doesn't close when you close the tab, meaning that I have to keep task manager up constantly to make sure Chrome doesn't slow my computer down to a crawl. Counter-productive considering Chrome is supposed to be the swift browser.

[origami_mustache]

Firefox 4 is a lot faster and sleeker than the old version. Seems like they tried to borrow some things from google, but I still prefer Chrome.

[shaun]

I think your underestimating this. Think of people who want to use a tablet for web browsing, but still want that tactical keyboard built in. They're out there.That still seems like a netbook to me though, with Chrome and without local storage. Eh.

[[ETM]]

It's seriously weird to see complaints... Chrome has worked like a charm on every bucket of bolts I installed it on. Even on my Atom N270 netbook downclocked to 800MHz it works like a charm. Also, it does close processes, eternity. It just has separate ones for every tab, but also every extension and plugin. You guys must have some weird setups.

[megladon8]

Sure doesn't work for me.

[number8]

Firefox 4 is a lot faster and sleeker than the old version. Seems like they tried to borrow some things from google, but I still prefer Chrome.

I don't consider Firefox 4 an improvement. It's more like a bug fix for the pile of shit that was Firefox 3. Yeah, it finally stopped being bloatware that doesn't work, but what's the point anymore. I'd rather use Chrome.

[Dukefrukem]

I've been using Chrome for a couple of months now. I feel like I'm back in the 90s again! It's an awesome little program.

I only have two issues with it. Can't find an auto-refresh plugin and copy and paste highlights things oddly. Also, Netflix doesn't work that great with it. I use it both on Linux and Windows XP.

Opera is still OK. Firefox is awful at the moment - I'd rather use IE than super bloated Firefox that needs to be killed every 24 hours.

Weird. All those things work perfectly for me.

[Dukefrukem]

Just tried to download and use Chrome again for shits n giggles.

It officially does not work on my computer.

Downloaded, opened it. Nothing worked, like the first time I used it. Just had a big navy blue screen that said "Something went wrong. To learn more, click here" and when I clicked it, it just opened another navy blue window that said the same thing.

Then my computer froze and restarted automatically.

And now I cannot even open the program.

Yeah, I'll stick with Opera thank you very much.

You don't download anything. It installs directly from the web. Check your connection or blocked popups, firewall etc.

[Dukefrukem]

Every new tab in Chrome creates a new process that doesn't close when you close the tab, meaning that I have to keep task manager up constantly to make sure Chrome doesn't slow my computer down to a crawl. Counter-productive considering Chrome is supposed to be the swift browser.

It's designed for multi-core processors and the extra processes are actually BETTER for your computer so it can handle the tasks accordingly. Instead of just one processe that eats ALL of your RAM and CPU cycles. There's an option to disable that i believe.

[megladon8]

You don't download anything. It installs directly from the web. Check your connection or blocked popups, firewall etc.


Download Google Chrome. (http://www.google.com/chrome/)


I downloaded the installer, and then used that to install it on my system.

And it doesn't work.

[Dukefrukem]

Try this meg (http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?standalone=1&hl=en)

[megladon8]

Tried that, Duke, and, le sigh...


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7176/chromee.jpg


Exact same problem.

[Dukefrukem]

So you downloaded it?? BUt it doesn't display sites?

Da heck.

[megladon8]

So you downloaded it?? BUt it doesn't display sites?

Da heck.



Yes, like I said before.

I tried going to MatchCut, and it showed a quick flash of the page loading, then it went back to that navy blue screen with "Aw, snap!"

In other words, Google Chrome can eat my shorts.

[Dukefrukem]

I might know what's wrong.

What version does it say you have?

Wrench in the top right hand corner >> About Google Chrome?

[Ezee E]

Never really had an issue with Firefox either. Chrome just works faster for me.

[megladon8]

I had to do a full system overhaul anyways, so I installed Windows 7 and Chrome.

Chrome works now, though I'm finding it quite slow with downloads and stuff like YouTube.

[Raiders]

OK, so I am giving it a shot and it does seem to work very smoothly, but a huge drawback is that it doesn't seem to have WYSIWYG enabled, at least for vBulletin sites. I hate seeing the bbCode tags.

[number8]

OK, so I am giving it a shot and it does seem to work very smoothly, but a huge drawback is that it doesn't seem to have WYSIWYG enabled, at least for vBulletin sites. I hate seeing the bbCode tags.

Yeah. It works on most sites' editors. I'm not sure what it's problem with vBUlletin is.

[number8]

http://i.imgur.com/wv9zp.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

I prefer seeing code when editing.

[Yxklyx]

I'm starting to see the problems megladon8 had seen. Chrome hangs when trying to contact some third party web site that is linked from the site you are trying to connect to - like facebook or some ad site.

I suspect this is a deliberate attack on Google's Chrome by Facebook.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm starting to see the problems megladon8 had seen. Chrome hangs when trying to contact some third party web site that is linked from the site you are trying to connect to - like facebook or some ad site.

I suspect this is a deliberate attack on Google's Chrome by Facebook.

Facebook runs seamlessly for me. What version are you running? They made an update recently.

[Yxklyx]

Facebook runs seamlessly for me. What version are you running? They made an update recently.

No, the problem wasn't with connecting to the Facebook site - it was connecting to some other site that itself connects to Facebook - you can see on the bottom left the site it's trying to connect to and it was hanging on the Facebook connection - so many sites connect to Facebook nowadays it's like a virus. Anyway, I deleted all my Browsing Data and now it works fine - it was probably reading an old Facebook cookie that I now deleted.

[Robby P]

The new Print Preview function in Chrome 13 is all different kinds of win.

[Dukefrukem]

Ah you're using Beta. I stick with the official release.

[Dukefrukem]

Also, did anyone get a beta invite for Google Music?

[Dukefrukem]

Can we rename this thread to:

The Google Thread (or, the I Hate Steve Jobs and Apple Thread)

[megladon8]

Man, Chrome really sucks for FaceBook.

[Dukefrukem]

Man, Chrome really sucks for FaceBook.

I should really take a video of how seamlessly my internet browsing and multitasking has INCREASED due to Chrome and why it's IMPOSSIBLE to replicate in any other browser known to man.

[megladon8]

I should really take a video of how seamlessly my internet browsing and multitasking has INCREASED due to Chrome and why it's IMPOSSIBLE to replicate in any other browser known to man.


My experience with Chrome so far has proven that Opera is better.

[Milky Joe]

On a scale of one to ten, how proud would you say you are that Chrome hasn't been working for you? Because I'm going to guess about a 8 or 9.

[Russ]

On a scale of one to ten, how proud would you say you are that Chrome hasn't been working for you? Because I'm going to guess about a 8 or 9.
I don't understand this question. What does pride have to do with it?

[megladon8]

On a scale of one to ten, how proud would you say you are that Chrome hasn't been working for you? Because I'm going to guess about a 8 or 9.


It's working now, it's just pretty slow. And FaceBook really doesn't work too well on it.

I just don't see this revolutionary, seamless internet experience that Duke's raving about.

[Milky Joe]

Heh. Just a joke. It seemed like from how outspoken he's been about his troubles with Chrome and deeming it such a terrible piece of software... I don't know, he just seems to like being able to say it.

[megladon8]

Heh. Just a joke. It seemed like from how outspoken he's been about his troubles with Chrome and deeming it such a terrible piece of software... I don't know, he just seems to like being able to say it.


It's not terrible. At least it works for me now (though I had to install a new OS to do so).

[Dukefrukem]

It's working now, it's just pretty slow. And FaceBook really doesn't work too well on it.

I just don't see this revolutionary, seamless internet experience that Duke's raving about.

Everyone browses the internet differently. For example, in FF and Opera you can't create a tab directly next to another tab. In Chrome, the option is right at the top of the drop down list. (making it easy and FAST to get to) You can sync your bookmarks, apps, themes, passwords, with your gmail account. The apps are integrated right into the browser as time icons which you can turn on/off with quick shortcuts. The freakin APP STORE which is the best improvement over the last few weeks. Clicking a new tab brings up the last used sites you've visited, giving you easy access to recently closed sites as well as teh app store.

You might need a dual core CPU to take full advantage of chrome.

[Milky Joe]

I definitely love that when you close a tab, you can go into the history and reopen it immediately, and it actually preserves the whole history of that tab. That's a good feature.

[megladon8]

Opera does that too.

And I like Opera's bookmarks feature better.

[megladon8]

Everyone browses the internet differently. For example, in FF and Opera you can't create a tab directly next to another tab. In Chrome, the option is right at the top of the drop down list. (making it easy and FAST to get to) You can sync your bookmarks, apps, themes, passwords, with your gmail account. The apps are integrated right into the browser as time icons which you can turn on/off with quick shortcuts. The freakin APP STORE which is the best improvement over the last few weeks. Clicking a new tab brings up the last used sites you've visited, giving you easy access to recently closed sites as well as teh app store.

You might need a dual core CPU to take full advantage of chrome.



WELL WHY DON'T YOU JUST MARRY IT THEN???

[Dukefrukem]

I, Dukefrukem, Take Google Chrome...

[number8]

There is zero problems with Facebook on Chrome.

[Ezee E]

There is zero problems with Facebook on Chrome.
Can't say I really notice facebook problems on any browser for that matter.

[EyesWideOpen]

It's working now, it's just pretty slow. And FaceBook really doesn't work too well on it.

I just don't see this revolutionary, seamless internet experience that Duke's raving about.

If that's the case then it's still not working correctly on your computer because it should be loads faster and Facebook should be working fine.

[Kurosawa Fan]

There is zero problems with Facebook on Chrome.

Yep. The only issue I have with Chrome is that it doesn't recognize all of the gestures on my Mac's touch pad. Otherwise, every site works flawlessly.

[number8]

Yep. The only issue I have with Chrome is that it doesn't recognize all of the gestures on my Mac's touch pad. Otherwise, every site works flawlessly.

Do you use BetterTouchTool? You're missing out if you don't.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Do you use BetterTouchTool? You're missing out if you don't.

No, is that an app for Chrome? The only thing that Chrome won't recognize is the three finger movement that brings you to the top or bottom of a page, which helps with Match Cut for returning to the main forum page.

[number8]

No, is that an app for Chrome? The only thing that Chrome won't recognize is the three finger movement that brings you to the top or bottom of a page, which helps with Match Cut for returning to the main forum page.

No, it's a free Mac program that allows you to assign any action on any program to any custom finger gesture you want.

The only downside is it fucks me up when I use someone else's Mac, because I have to readjust to the default finger movements, heh.

[EyesWideOpen]

I've been using Google chrome since it came out and the only website I use that doesn't work correctly still is discount comic book service. It loads correctly but when you scroll down it cut off the bottom half of each page. I have to open internet explorer for that one.

[D_Davis]

Man, the Internet is serious business.

[Dukefrukem]

Man, the Internet is serious business.

just like LinkedIns IPO today... Wow!

[shaun]

The only thing that really annoys me with Chrome is their min/max/exit buttons in the top right are not the same size as every other application in the history of Windows computing. I have a tendency to close out of Chrome when I was just trying to minimize a couple things.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2h3wpip.jpg

[Dukefrukem]

The only thing that really annoys me with Chrome is their min/max/exit buttons in the top right are not the same size as every other application in the history of Windows computing. I have a tendency to close out of Chrome when I was just trying to minimize a couple things.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2h3wpip.jpg

If you Run Vista or Windows 7, you dont have that problem.

I suggest you check the option to open all previously closed tabs when starting chrome. ;)

[shaun]

If you Run Vista or Windows 7, you dont have that problem.XP Pro at work still. Windows 7 at home. :sad:

[megladon8]

There is zero problems with Facebook on Chrome.



I frequently have to reload the FaceBook page (whether it be a profile page, the main "home" page, or whatever) because it has completely frozen and will not load anything I click on.

[shaun]

just like LinkedIns IPO today... Wow!It's now valued at 40x their 2010 revenues. People are dumb.

[megladon8]

Is there a special plugin required for Quicktime to work with Chrome?

Apple.com/trailers isn't really working for me. When I click a film to watch a trailer for it, it loads that film's page, but the little drop down menu that's supposed to be there (giving me the option to watch the trailer in HD or standard, or to download it) is not there.

[Dukefrukem]

Is there a special plugin required for Quicktime to work with Chrome?


No. But there is a special plugin that's required to use the internet.

[megladon8]

Good one.

[D_Davis]

It's now valued at 40x their 2010 revenues. People are dumb.

Yeah - very.

[megladon8]

Here's what I get trying to watch a trailer...


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/457/applei.jpg


See, there's no ability to play it, it's just kind of a blank screen.


Any ideas or suggestions?

[Dukefrukem]

Here's what I get trying to watch a trailer...


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/457/applei.jpg


See, there's no ability to play it, it's just kind of a blank screen.


Any ideas or suggestions?

Updated to the latest version of QT?

[Dukefrukem]

Chrome 11.0.696 and QT 7.6.9

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Misc/ChromeScreenshot.jpg

[number8]

Personally, I don't know how you guys can stand playing Quicktime movies on Windows.

[D_Davis]

Personally, I don't know how you guys can stand playing Quicktime movies on Windows.

Yeah, because pressing play and watching the video is such a hassle.

[number8]

Yeah, because pressing play and watching the video is such a hassle.

Apple software tend to be extremely buggy on non-Macs. They sort of half-ass the porting. I think the browser plugins less so than the actual Quicktime Player, but still.

[[ETM]]

I refuse to install Quicktime. When I want trailers, I download them using davestrailerpage.co.uk and watch them with VLC.

[Dukefrukem]

Apple software tend to be extremely buggy on non-Macs. They sort of half-ass the porting. I think the browser plugins less so than the actual Quicktime Player, but still.

It's not buggy like it used to be back in 2003. It's just shit software. (mainly iTunes) QT has always run fine for me.

[shaun]

Why is there no auto-hide function on the download bar? There should be one if not.

Also, what extensions would you consider "must have"?

[Dukefrukem]

Why is there no auto-hide function on the download bar? There should be one if not.

Also, what extensions would you consider "must have"?

Would you rather a popup window that you can't close until the download is complete like in IE?

extensions:

Ad Block
IE Tab
Reader
Angry Birds

and Rapportive for Gmail

[megladon8]

Chrome 11.0.696 and QT 7.6.9

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/Misc/ChromeScreenshot.jpg



Nope, doesn't work.

I have latest Chrome and latest QuickTime.

[Ezee E]

Ha. That trailer isn't working for me either.

[[ETM]]

sDPJ-o1leAw

[Dukefrukem]

Got my invite to Google Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[Ezee E]

Got my invite to Google Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
What is that?

[number8]

What is that?

Google it.

[Dukefrukem]

What is that?

Cloud store all of your music on google. http://music.google.com/music

It's currently uploading 22k songs! Organizing them by artist, and attaching album covers.... problem right now is it's painfully slow. I started uploading at 7pm and it's only uploaded 346 songs.

It also comes with an Android app. Streams AMAZING so far.

[Dukefrukem]

2500 of 20,000 songs uploaded....

[Dukefrukem]

8000 uploaded

ALso got my Gingerbread rollout to my DroidX this morning. Yay.

[number8]

Screw Google Music. I'm excited for Google Wallet.

[Acapelli]

got my google music invite

sweet

[Dukefrukem]

got my google music invite

sweet

http://files.notebookforums.com/images/smilies/headbang.gif

[Barty]

I want my invite so bad...

[Dukefrukem]

I streaming my collection from my phone to and from work yesterday. A grand total of 102 miles of uninterrupted - perfectly quality music. Impressive.

[Dukefrukem]

must be my lucky week


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[Dukefrukem]

10812 uploaded

[Dukefrukem]

14,000!!!!!!

[number8]

Google is phasing out support for older browsers from 1 August.

Those using IE7, Safari 3, Firefox 3.5 and their predecessors to view Gmail, Google Calendar, Talk, Docs and Sites will then lose some functions.

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b436/pisquared/OrsonWellesClap.gif

[Dukefrukem]

You like that?

[shaun]

Got an invite to Google Music. Not convinced it be all that useful but at least it gives me a reason to clean up a pretty bloated library.

[number8]

You like that?

What's not to like?

If you've ever designed and managed a website, there is nobody you want to kill more in this world than people who use outdated browsers.

Google and Facebook, as the two most used websites in the world, have a responsibility to cleanse these people.

[Dukefrukem]

What's not to like?

If you've ever designed and managed a website, there is nobody you want to kill more in this world than people who use outdated browsers.

Google and Facebook, as the two most used websites in the world, have a responsibility to cleanse these people.

Good point. +1 for Google- as usual

[Raiders]

I love you Google.

[bac0n]

Good on Google. I occasionally run into the occasional sod complaining of something I built acting wonky for them, only to find out they're still on IE6.

[Raiders]

It's really difficult though. After six attempts, this is all I could manage:

http://goo.gl/doodle/hRVH

[Robby P]

I thought this Metallica one was pretty good.

http://www.google.com/webhp?tune=YAFxjjnCFhCIE5xiYXG OOSI6EIjjghPA

The Billie Jean one making the youtube rounds doesn't sound like Billie Jean to me.

[Dukefrukem]

Picked up the new Samsung Galaxy Tab on Friday, brought it home, turned it on... fun.

Oh wait... there's absolutely NO APPS for it. No Netflix, No WSJ, barely any books in the Google store, the Kindle app is pretty nice. Same as the one on the phone though...

so what's the point?

Returning it tomorrow.

[[ETM]]

Indeed. State-of-the-art hardware means absolutely nothing to you because you can't do much with it without a matching ecosystem.

That's why I'd never get a tablet that tries to compete with Apple.

[Irish]

Oh wait... there's absolutely NO APPS for it. No Netflix, No WSJ, barely any books in the Google store, the Kindle app is pretty nice. Same as the one on the phone though...

Unfortunate chicken-and-egg problem with the platform right now, from what I understand.

No apps, low sales. Low sales, no developers. Which means ... no apps.

[Fezzik]

It's sad, because I really don't want to get an iPad, but to get a tablet that does everything I want it to do right now, I have to get an iPad.

The HP Touchpad comes out in two weeks, and as an employee, I wanted to be supportive, but there's still no confirmation of a Netflix app for WebOS 3.0.

It's all about Apps for me.

I want a tablet that can

* Stream Netflix
* Act as an e-reader
* Play music
* Check email
* Browse
* Store and organize PDFs.


Everything else is gravy. Every other tablet I've looked at has ALL of these features - except Netflix. That's a deal breaker. Why get a tablet, no matter how good it is, if there are no applications that support what you want it for?

It's kind of ironic. I Never owned or bought a Mac because despite the hardware quality, the applications available weren't what I wanted (gaming).

In the tablet realm, Apple seems to be the only one who currently HAS the apps I want.

Ah well. Decisions, decisions.

[shaun]

What's your objection to the iPad? You note the quality of Apple hardware, the fact that it can do everything you want in a tablet, and it has a leading price point in the sector.

Is it just wanting a different tablet?

[Fezzik]

What's your objection to the iPad? You note the quality of Apple hardware, the fact that it can do everything you want in a tablet, and it has a leading price point in the sector.

Is it just wanting a different tablet?

I was trying to get away from Apple. I switched from my Apple iPhone to Sprint's EVO 3D (or will, next week) because I dislike Apple's policy of locking the devices down cold.

But, for what I want the tablet to do, the more I think about it, the iPad might be exactly what I'm looking for. Customizability really doesn't concern me nearly as much.

I'm going to call HP before I make the decision, though, because I really WANT to support my company and the Touchpad, from an OS/hardware point of view, is a beauty. All it needs is confirmed Netflix support and i'm all over it.

If not, though, oh hai Steve Jobs.

[shaun]

Just curious. I was semi-set on the Xoom prior to launch but ultimately the specs (minus screen res) were a disappointment and the Android store just isn't in the same league as iTunes. I've been very happy with the iPad 2.

Netflix, HBO Go, MLB.tv, and Cablevision's Optimum app give me everything my TV does on a tablet.

[Dukefrukem]

I'll put this here too.

Do a search for gay, lesbian or transgender and you'll see a rainbow show up on Google's search box.

http://smarterware.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/googlegaypride.png

[number8]

Also works for Homosexual, Bisexual, LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTA and Queer.

[[ETM]]

I wish the Toshiba Thrive would come out already... it has all the flexibility I need hardware-wise, at a goo price point. It's just ticking all my boxes as if it knew my wish-list:

- thicker, with a rubberized, textured back. I really dislike the feel of the iPad 2 in my hand(s), I don't find it comfortable at all.
- interchangeable back covers
- easily replaceable battery
- full size USB port
- full size HDMI out
- full size SD card slot
- pre-installed file browser
- 1280x800 IPS 10" screen

I'm not interested in online services such as Netflix at all, because of where I live, so the tinkerability of Honeycomb + that hardware base = me love it long time. I just want to handle it and if the feel is right, they have my money.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm wondering why you guys are more interested in the Motorola, Toshiba and HP tabs when the Samsung Tab is exactly like the iPad 2 (literally, i mean they're being sued for patent infringement as we speak) only it runs Andorid over iOS and has a widescreen and dual core CPU. So it essentially has better hardware than anything on the market and is thinner than the ipad.

THe only problem remains is the fragmentation of the OS, which is supposedly supposed to be solved when Ice Cream sandwich is released. This is the reason why there's so little apps for it right now. THat and the SDK wasn't released.

[[ETM]]

So it essentially has better hardware than anything on the market and is thinner than the ipad.

As I've said - "thinner" is a con in my book. I have large palms and long fingers and I prefer a tablet that I can grasp more firmly without going with cases, and covers. As for "better hardware" - replaceable battery and full size connectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all.

[Irish]

I was trying to get away from Apple.

If that's your goal, I'd wait. I'd be very surprised if the Netflix issue isn't resolved in the next six months, and if you get an iPad2 now you'll be stuck with something you didn't really want for what? 2? 3 years?

[Dukefrukem]

If that's your goal, I'd wait. I'd be very surprised if the Netflix issue isn't resolved in the next six months, and if you get an iPad2 now you'll be stuck with something you didn't really want for what? 2? 3 years?

Q4 of this year is when apps should start flowin in.

[[ETM]]

A dude just posted an ad on a forum - he's selling brand new iPads. He's getting them from abroad, because the iPad 2 is not yet available through legal channels here. He asks for almost $800 for the 16GB WiFi version, and $85 for the fricken' Smart Cover.

You see what I have to live with here? My rent is $243, for reference.

[shaun]

What's the import law where you are? B&H has them in stock now.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/758418-REG/Apple_MC769LL_A_16GB_iPad_2_wi th.html

[[ETM]]

Customs and shipping would make it more expensive than what the guy asks, that's the real clincher right there.

I'm not getting an iPad, but I have a friend who's moving to US soon, and she's got someone who travels back and forth rather regularly, so if I decide to get something, she'll buy it online and send it to me. I can wait.

[D_Davis]

New iPad is even bigger, wall-mounted.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/06/22/apple.tv/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[Dukefrukem]

New iPad is even bigger, wall-mounted.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/06/22/apple.tv/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

wrong thread ;)

[Ezee E]

Got my google music invite. Love it. I'm going to play my stuff at work tomorrow.

I wonder if you'll ever get to share music with other "google friends" or at least listen to their lists or something.

[Dukefrukem]

Got my google music invite. Love it. I'm going to play my stuff at work tomorrow.

I wonder if you'll ever get to share music with other "google friends" or at least listen to their lists or something.

I'm waiting for the ability to REDOWNLOAD my music. Don't think any of these features will happen. We'll see what they do with this.

[Ezee E]

I did make the mistake of taking the free songs. I want to just get rid of all of them...

Except Kriss Kross.

[Irish]

I wonder if you'll ever get to share music with other "google friends" or at least listen to their lists or something.

This article is about turntable.fm but it might shed some light on what Google or might not be able to do with this service:

http://allthingsd.com/20110621/turntable-fm-really-is-awesome-is-it-legal/

I'd be very surprised if Google made deals with the labels, though, under their flagship brand.

[D_Davis]

wrong thread ;)

d'oh.

[Barty]

The FTC is about to try and take down Google and formally accuse them of anti-competitive behavior (for offering free items to everyone, and pricing the few things they do sell cheaper than everyone). This will be a key first step for the government to try and destroy the internet.

The FTC must be destroyed, and quick.

[eternity]

I wonder who can destroy the internet faster; the FTC or the ISP's trying to cap the data stream and disallow network neutrality.

Whoever wins, we lose.

[Dukefrukem]

I wonder who can destroy the internet faster; the FTC or the ISP's trying to cap the data stream and disallow network neutrality.

Whoever wins, we lose.

I see this becoming a huge problem in the future. Comcast already caps downloads- which is a brilliant idea from their perspective. People are using Hulu and Netflix and Amazon to watch movies and TV shows rather than actually watching TV or buying off VOD. Comcast owns NBC, so they cap your download speeds so you don't switch 100% to internet viewing. It's brilliant. But when technology gets more advanced and we can stream everything in 1080p, (or at least 720p unscaled, ) no one will watch regular TV anymore. I hit 100+ GB download last month between Netflix, Stream downloads and Amazon.

[[ETM]]

It's funny how so many are touting numbers like "99% of tablet internet traffic is from iPads" when it's painfully obvious that everyone is seemingly doing nothing but Netflix and other streaming on them. Perhaps networks should switch to providing "regular" internet, and internet providers could start peddling movies and TV shows.

[Irish]

Thoughts on Google+?

Can't see how they'll get this off the ground.

[Dukefrukem]

The only thing that can destroy Facebook?

http://www.google.com/intl/en-US/+/demo/

[shaun]

I'm game to give it a try. Social networking sites have always seemed a bit clunky to me and a more natural integration with what you normally do online seems like a better road to take.

Twitter is by far the best medium for "subscribed" content delivery at the moment anyways.

[number8]

Yep, twitter has basically replaced my RSS feed habits.

[[ETM]]

I think that, unlike their previous half-baked attempts at social networking, Google have a well thought out and implemented system. It's probably been in the works for as long as there have been rumors about it, so I'm hoping it hits the ground running and convinces people it's worth it.

[Irish]

Favorite reaction so far:

"Fundamentally, Google is a utility. No one wants to hang out at their power company." (@tomcoates (http://twitter.com/#!/tomcoates/status/85782655769116674))

[[ETM]]

Google has stopped being a utility ages ago. It's actually awesome that people still feel that way. It means Google is winning.

[Irish]

;356534']Google has stopped being a utility ages ago.

Not at all. Search is their core business. Everything else they've tried has been moderately successful (Gmail, Reader) or an out and out failure (Wave, Buzz, Books, Video). Their biggest successes outside of search have been through acquisition (YouTube).


It's actually awesome that people still feel that way. It means Google is winning.

Winning what? Facebook and Twitter are a major threat to their entire revenue model.

@kottke (http://twitter.com/#!/jkottke/status/85772303727738880) recently asked if any large company has successfully launched a social platform.

The answer is "not really," because the network effect ends up biting you on the ass every time.

[Ezee E]

Gmail is pretty widely used.

I also think the Google Music will take off once it's past its beta version. Otherwise, it's doing just fine with it's search engine and Chrome.

[Dukefrukem]

It's doing just fine with:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/about/products/index.html

[[ETM]]

Not at all. Search is their core business. Everything else they've tried has been moderately successful (Gmail, Reader) or an out and out failure (Wave, Buzz, Books, Video). Their biggest successes outside of search have been through acquisition (YouTube).

You are aware that they're doing Android, right? And Documents? And Chrome? And Chromium OS?

[Irish]

It's doing just fine with:

http://www.google.com/intl/en/about/products/index.html

There's a difference between having a lot of products and having a lot of good, useful products that generate revenue (see: Microsoft, circa 1999).

Not sure I'd really point to stuff like Orkut and Picassa as wins for Google.


;356575']You are aware that they're doing Android, right? And Documents? And Chrome? And Chromium OS?

Docs is a good app. If it has any problems, it's that it is not feature complete and doesn't directly drive any revenue. Unlike Gmail, there are no ads attached to it.

Android was an acquisition. I'm not sure if they're operating it at a loss or if licensing fees are a significant revenue stream for them.

Chrome, if you're talking about the browser, is operated at a loss. It does drive search engine traffic, though, so at least that's something.

Chromium can't be counted either way because up until 2 weeks ago there were no products that shipped with it.

So what was your point again? None of these particularly refute the observation the Google is, at its heart, a utility company or that search is their core business.

[[ETM]]

So what was your point again? None of these particularly refute the observation the Google is, at its heart, a utility company or that search is their core business.

No, what's your point? I never contested that claim, I was just saying that they're more than "power & gas", which is a ridiculous thing to say, no matter what their "core" is.

[Dukefrukem]

There's a difference between having a lot of products and having a lot of good, useful products that generate revenue (see: Microsoft, circa 1999).

Not sure I'd really point to stuff like Orkut and Picassa as wins for Google.


Orkut is the only NON win on that page. It's a Brazilian social networking app that Google acquired I think. Picassa is amazing. Both the online photo storage and the application.

[Irish]

;356604']No, what's your point? I never contested that claim, I was just saying that they're more than "power & gas", which is a ridiculous thing to say, no matter what their "core" is.

Providing infrastructure for people (Search, Gmail, Docs) or companies (Android) pretty much defines "utility company."

In terms of search, their problem now -- aside from the fact that they've tried this 2-3 times before and failed at it -- do people want to hang out with a utility company?

Google+ has some good ideas around it, but people need a much stronger reason to sign up than just "being social," especially if there's no clear differentiation between product features (as with Facebook and Twitter).

Bootstrapping an entire social network is tough work when people don't have a compelling reason to join in the first place.

It's the difference between X-Box Live, Y! Groups, and Ping.

[Irish]

Orkut is the only NON win on that page. It's a Brazilian social networking app that Google acquired I think. Picassa is amazing. Both the online photo storage and the application.

You've got your history backwards. Orkut was designed and implemented by Google in the US. It became bizarrely popular in Brazil and India years later, but it was originally intended to be a social network competitor to mySpace and Facebook.

Picassa might be an amazing app. I'm not sure what the usage numbers are, but I'm sure they're nowhere near Flickr, Facebook, and services like yfrog or twitpic. I don't think of it as a distinct win in the sense that it's not a market leader.

But, more pointedly, how many "products" on that page are directly tied to search?

[Dukefrukem]

Well that's why I said "I think". I knew Brazil had something to do with it.

It's clear you don't use any of these things so until you form an opinion on the usage rather than what's #1 and #2 on the market, I don't think you have a fair judgment of the products Google offers. The face recognition software in Picasa alone is enough to make it a better premium product than Flickr and those stupid twitter hosting sites. Facebook is getting face recognition soon too though.

[[ETM]]

Providing infrastructure for people (Search, Gmail, Docs) or companies (Android) pretty much defines "utility company."

I'm pretty sure the company that provides your power doesn't also make your TV.

[Irish]

It's clear you don't use any of these things so until you form an opinion on the usage rather than what's #1 and #2 on the market, I don't think you have a fair judgment of the products Google offers.

I used some of them, not others. I follow the market pretty closely though, so if Google was doing something that really caught fire, I'd have at least heard about it.

We're talking about a company of engineers that started out building web infrastructure. They did it well. They acquired some good companies. When they've strayed from their original mandate, they've done so with middlin' results.

Given that they've failed 2-3 times in the social sphere, I wouldn't count on Google+ to be any kind of enormous hit.

They're still fighting the network effect and from what I've seen so far, nothing in Google+ counteracts that.

[Ezee E]

I took the tour. It basically has everything that people want facebook to do, and makes it pretty simple to do.

So facebook will be doing this in 6-12 months.

Competition is good.

[ledfloyd]

Yep, twitter has basically replaced my RSS feed habits.
i use them both daily.

i'm always dubious about new social networks, i'm relatively happy with facebook, and with things like this it depends on how many people decide to use it. if all my friends are on facebook, and i think google+ is a bit better, i'm still probably going to use facebook until they decide to use google+

[Ezee E]

i use them both daily.

i'm always dubious about new social networks, i'm relatively happy with facebook, and with things like this it depends on how many people decide to use it. if all my friends are on facebook, and i think google+ is a bit better, i'm still probably going to use facebook until they decide to use google+
This is why I don't think Google+ will succeed.

[Dukefrukem]

myspace is closing shop soon. They just released a 1/3rd of their staff.

[shaun]

Been playing around with Google+ a bit this morning. I really like that you can target updates to specific circles instead of a blanket broadcast.

[Dukefrukem]

Been playing around with Google+ a bit this morning. I really like that you can target updates to specific circles instead of a blanket broadcast.

Send me an invite pleaseeee <3

Dukefrukem [at] gmail

[shaun]

Should be there.

[[ETM]]

Help a brotha' out? I'm budo.basovic[you know the rest].

[[ETM]]

They're over capacity now, but should expand soon.

[Dukefrukem]

We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon.

[shaun]

Yeah, I got that last night and was able to get in this morning.

[number8]

The gender dropdown has Male, Female and Other. ♥.

[[ETM]]

I'm loving the interface so far.

[Dukefrukem]

As am I.

What's everyone's Gmail?

[Kurosawa Fan]

Someone invite me, dammit. I signed up to be kept posted, but haven't received an invitation.

[number8]

Registration's closed. You won't be able to get it even if you have an invite code.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Registration's closed. You won't be able to get it even if you have an invite code.

Son of a... any idea when it will open again?

[Barty]

Dammit! I want an invite!

[D_Davis]

I'm in. I don't get it.

[D_Davis]

twincamakiko [at] gmail.com

[Ezee E]

Dang. I thought signing up to be kept posted would be enough.

[Barty]

moehle.stephen @ gmail.com

Apparently if one of you send me a message or add me on a circle it will send me an invite....

[Thirdmango]

I've added everyone who has their email on here. I got this sometime yesterday.

[Dukefrukem]

how do you search for people via email? It seems all i can do is search for people by their name?

[[ETM]]

It takes e-mails from your Gmail account, plus you can import Hotmail and Yahoo contacts. I suppose it presumes that if you want to add someone via e-mail, you already have them in your contacts list.

[Dukefrukem]

Well that's a stupid presumption no?

Also it's not clear how to change a photo of yourself in your existing picasa albums. I can't upload a pic, without sharing it immediately with everyone. Why do i need to share everything i do, the second I do it?

[[ETM]]

Well that's a stupid presumption no?

What do you want to do, search by e-mail from some kind of open repository and add people? Perhaps they'll add it, but I don't see the problem, really.


Why do i need to share everything i do, the second I do it?

You mean like on Facebook?

[[ETM]]

Btw, do you mean your profile image or what? I don't have existing Picasa albums so I'm not sure what you mean.

[Dukefrukem]

;357455']Btw, do you mean your profile image or what? I don't have existing Picasa albums so I'm not sure what you mean.

Yes that's what I mean. I have a stock image, and I want to update it with a photo already in my picasa albums. IT's not possible right now.

In facebook, you have the option of searching for people by their e-mail address. I don't know everyone's first and last name here, so do they expect people to add other people to circle?

[Kurosawa Fan]

kurosawafan18 [AT] gmail [DOT] com

[Raiders]

kurosawafan18 [AT] gmail [DOT] com

Wait, didn't they suspend invites?

[[ETM]]

Yes that's what I mean. I have a stock image, and I want to update it with a photo already in my picasa albums. IT's not possible right now.

Shouldn't the photos appear under "Your albums" when you go to change your profile pic? Also, as for sharing - just create an empty Circle, and share with no one.


In facebook, you have the option of searching for people by their e-mail address. I don't know everyone's first and last name here, so do they expect people to add other people to circle?

It's convenient in Facebook, but the whole point of Google+ is choosing who sees what part of your private information. I just went and added Barty to my Contacts in Gmail, with one click switched to Google+ and added him to my Circles.

[Thirdmango]

Mine says I have invites and that I should just add people's emails, but no one has confirmed or denied whether they got an invite from me or not.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Apparently if one of you send me a message or add me on a circle it will send me an invite....

I was going by this, Raiders. Figured I'd post my email in case it works for those who haven't be invited yet.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Mine says I have invites and that I should just add people's emails, but no one has confirmed or denied whether they got an invite from me or not.

I will let you know if you send me an invite.

[Raiders]

Well, if it is working...

raiders1883 [at] gmail.com

[[ETM]]

About uploading images - the moment you create an album, it's online, but you don't have to share it at all: just click Cancel instead of Share, and it will remain visible to you only. This could have been clearer from the get go, but it is what it is. I'm adoring the privacy settings, though. I love how everything is easy to manage and really slick and fast. I love how you can set chat based on Circles, too, how you can edit your posts, how you can limit resharing, how you can disable others tagging you in photos. It's just... Facebook, but with everything a serious user ever wanted from it and never got, and much better code.

[[ETM]]

Export your Friends from Facebook to Google+ with this Chrome extension (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ficlccidpkaiepnnboobcmafnnfoom ga)

[Robby P]

Got my invite. Love the privacy settings. So much smoother to operate and much sleeker looking. No annoying fucking ads. I dig.

[Ezee E]

ericbialas at the gmail.

[D_Davis]

OK, so I started a Match-Cut circle. Hopefully some of you got invites?

[D_Davis]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MgcoFbDzVlA/Tg4R38WSqpI/AAAAAAAAAys/I_c0vkVbZic/ops.gif

[Ezee E]

No invite :(

Yet I can do the +1's on my google browser. Weird.

[[ETM]]

No invite :(

Yet I can do the +1's on my google browser. Weird.

+1 is not exclusively a Google+ thing, it's something you can do with a basic Google account.

[[ETM]]

how do you search for people via email? It seems all i can do is search for people by their name?

BTW, when you go to Circles, click on "Add a new person" and you can search by both name and e-mail. I just added D_Davis in like three seconds.

[Dukefrukem]

;357589']BTW, when you go to Circles, click on "Add a new person" and you can search by both name and e-mail. I just added D_Davis in like three seconds.

Yeh you can add them by e-mail but it doesn't link it to their account. It just sits there in gray. PLus I don't know everyone's full name so it looks goofy in my contact list. I like to keep things consistent.

[[ETM]]

It linked for me immediately, real name and profile pic and all.:confused:

[Dukefrukem]

;357603']It linked for me immediately, real name and profile pic and all.:confused:

What the heck...

[Dukefrukem]

I want to try a Match Cut video hangout.

[[ETM]]

I want to try a Match Cut video hangout.

They say it works wonderfully.

[Thirdmango]

yeah I added everyone too, I guess invites haven't gone out yet. :(

[Raiders]

They've froze them due to "insane demand." Not sure when they'll reopen, but people are selling them on eBay.

[Ezee E]

Got the invite, but you can't join for now.

Like the interface of it all. We'll see how well it works with people not in the tech world.

[[ETM]]

We'll see how well it works with people not in the tech world.

I'm kinda hoping they stay out, at least for a while.




Btw, Mashable says they have confirmed with their sources that Facebook will be launching integrated Skype video calling next week.

Meh.

[eternity]

Google+ is so close to Facebook that one line of CSS code makes the thing look nearly identical.

Awesome.

[Kurosawa Fan]

Seems I can use Davis' post, which I was emailed, as a way to sign up, but unfortunately it's at capacity. I'll keep checking while I'm at work today.

[Raiders]

Seems I can use Davis' post, which I was emailed, as a way to sign up, but unfortunately it's at capacity. I'll keep checking while I'm at work today.

Same here.

[D_Davis]

Hmmm....that's lame.

[Robby P]

http://i.imgur.com/SrmIX.png

[D_Davis]

Heh...

[[ETM]]

I got the same response when I got the first invite, but got in later when someone else who got in before me added me.

[Fezzik]

I gotta admit, even after deciding to buy an iPad i was somewhat skeptical about how I'd feel when I was using it.

Damn....I don't know why I didn't get one sooner. It does everything I want it to do, and does all of them well.

As a bonus, having all my D&D books on the device in PDF format is a Godsend.

I am loving this thing, even if it makes me feel dirty saying so.

[Raiders]

See shaun's post for Google+, but when you click "Join Google+" you still get the screen with the message box saying:



Google+ is in limited Field Trial
Right now, we're testing with a small number of people, but it won't be long before the Google+ project is ready for everyone. Leave us your email address and we'll make sure you're the first to know when we're ready to invite more people.

Already invited? We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon.

[D_Davis]

As a bonus, having all my D&D books on the device in PDF format is a Godsend.


We have 2 iPads in my gaming group, and it's great for manuals and stuff.

[shaun]

See shaun's post for Google+, but when you click "Join Google+" you still get the screen with the message box saying:It was worth a shot. I never had an Invite button so I created a circle for people who wanted Google+ invites and would then just send out a status update to that circle.

I'd check back every once in a while just in case.

[number8]

Hey, someone send me an invite aryaponto@gmail.com, I'm testing a workaround.

[number8]

Virgin Airlines departure gates at select airports now have Chromebooks you can take and use on their flights for free.

http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/06/summer-travel-with-chromebook.html

[Dukefrukem]

Hey, someone send me an invite aryaponto@gmail.com, I'm testing a workaround.

I adde you to a circle. Does that qualify as "inviting" you?"

[number8]

I adde you to a circle. Does that qualify as "inviting" you?"

You'll have to go into the circle and send me a message by clicking "Share."

[Dukefrukem]

I'm not seeing where that is.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/Dukefrukem/GooglePlus.png

[number8]

Oh, heh, I didn't mean do it from inside the circle feature. You just write something, anything, on your stream and send it to your circle. There'll be a checkbox asking if you want to email the update to the friends not yet on Google+. This acts as an invite.

[Dukefrukem]

Ok. I think I sent a "share" or whatever.

[number8]

Hmmm, nothing came. Weird.

[Dukefrukem]

Hmmm, nothing came. Weird.

"The circle you're about to share with include 5 people who don't use Google+. Mike Beeckman, Eric Bialas, Raiders1883, Arya Ponto, Stephen"

[Barty]

Google is just doing this to make us more antsy. Fuck you google, give me my +!

[shaun]

Citing anonymous sources, the social-media blog said Google is planning to change the names of its Picasa photo management service and its Blogger blog platform to Google Photos and Google Blogs, respectively.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20076925-17/report-google-to-rebrand-blogger-picasa/#ixzz1RGBEfepT

[Kurosawa Fan]

Four days later and I still can't use the invites I have. There is no way this will be worth the wait.

[D_Davis]

Four days later and I still can't use the invites I have. There is no way this will be worth the wait.

It's not. I've already stopped using it. It is, literally, Facebook with a different skin, but without any of my friends. All it has done is further cluttered my gmail inbox with useless notifications.

[D_Davis]

I just now deleted my Google+ profile.

Quick, someone try to log in, there might be a space available! :)

[Ezee E]

It's not. I've already stopped using it. It is, literally, Facebook with a different skin, but without any of my friends. All it has done is further cluttered my gmail inbox with useless notifications.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what the kicker could be. It's not in the early stages like myspace was when facebook took over it. Facebook's only issue that I can think of is privacy. And with that, he privacy issue is something that facebook has basically made the user responsible for. So it's not really facebook's fault.

What brought myspace down was its loading times, awful layout, and never improving itself.

All I see is facebook learning what works on google+ and using it later.

I'll give it a shot, but I don't really see it taking over facebook.

[Watashi]

If you guys were the inventors of Google+, you'd have invented Google+.

[Thirdmango]

Yeah I've also stopped using google plus, I have no reason until others can be on it. Even then I'm sorta fulfilled on social networking. Man my afro is badass.

[Irish]

It is, literally, Facebook with a different skin, but without any of my friends.

I just now deleted my Google+ profile.

Gentleman, I present to you: The network effect, in action!

:pritch: