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Thread: Personal Shopper (Olivier Assayas)

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    What I dislike most about the supernatural aspect of this film is the way it blends with the naturalism and seems to assert that ghosts are legitimately a thing that may be possible in our real world. I like plenty of movies with supernatural elements, but this film seems to be made by someone who actually believes in ghosts.
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    I like plenty of movies with supernatural elements, but this film seems to be made by someone who actually believes in ghosts.
    I don't see why this matters. In certain cases it could even be a positive. Like a director could make a scarier film if he or she were actually scared of the monster.

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    none of them had really been dead before
    Haha fair point.

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    I like plenty of movies with supernatural elements, but this film seems to be made by someone who actually believes in ghosts.
    I like this aspect of it! I like that the movie acknowledges its existence in a world of super-sophisticated people who don't bat an eye when talking about ghosts. Even the skeptic boyfriend character respects Maureen's drive and motivations.

    Overall, I like a lot of individual aspects of this movie, but I still find the execution of the final act too pretentious and empty.

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    This was atrocious, like the worst impulses of American literary novels and French cinema lumped together.

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    This is my favorite film thus far this year.

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    See more movies? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I like American literary novels and French cinema, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    This is tied with Logan as my favorite movie of the year right now and I've seen 67 films from this year thus far, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Well the intent of my follow-up post sorta backfired on me there, didn't it? Make you a deal --- enjoy the favorite and I'll keep thinking it's a not-very-good-movie.

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    Was middle-of-the-road for it (leaning very slightly yay) but thought that backfire was deserved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    This reminds me why I rarely comment in the database threads anymore.

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    yeah, others' opinions in actual film threads are much more encouraged thus harder to glibly dismiss than in film news or general threads, so I get you on that. (What I don't get is, our pushbacks are always like much less a fraction of the hostility or aggressiveness that is started with, so why make like we're so terrible here)
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    Uh, yeah. Okaaaaay.

    Tossing out stuff like "This is my favorite" or "I liked it," with no other context, is an empty post. It's an easy contradiction to make, can't be refuted, and becomes its own form of glib dismissal. So I threw back something just as empty -- "see more movies." When that was badly interpreted, I backed off. What's the damage, exactly?

    I could have talked more about why I disliked the movie, but honestly, I'm a little worn out from trying. Too many of these threads argue from bad faith or offer quick and easy contradictions and nothing else.

    TL;DR: This wasn't your argument, so why are you beefing?

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    There's some nice thoughts written on the first page.

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    Personal Shopper (Olivier Assayas)

    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Uh, yeah. Okaaaaay.

    Tossing out stuff like "This is my favorite" or "I liked it," with no other context, is an empty post.
    And? I don't believe it is contravening any movie discussion constitution to do so?
    And it seems a bit weird to be upset with a positive post ("It's my favorite of the year") and then subsequently respond negatively by suggesting the opinion reflects a weakness in the person giving it ("See more movies"). Unless you take any dissenting opinion as a personal affront? I mean.... okay?

    Edit to add: originally, I saw nothing wrong at all with the exchanges above, yours included, as it just seemed like typical forum banter. It's just surprising that underneath it all you were pissed about it...
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    I haven't seen this movie. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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    I like the tone of the film, the atmosphere it gives off, but it is also a bit of a mess. It's too ambiguous for its own good, like it is trying to be clever but it really isn't. Too many things just don't add up. I still can't get my head around what exactly happened in the hotel room.

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    One thing for sure is she is a terrible Medium. Her brother has been following her around dropping glasses and she is completely oblivious to his presence.

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    Quote Quoting Rico (view post)
    I like the tone of the film, the atmosphere it gives off, but it is also a bit of a mess. It's too ambiguous for its own good, like it is trying to be clever but it really isn't. Too many things just don't add up. I still can't get my head around what exactly happened in the hotel room.

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    One thing for sure is she is a terrible Medium. Her brother has been following her around dropping glasses and she is completely oblivious to his presence.
    For a minute, reading this post, I confused this with the ending of Clouds of Sils Maria...

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    Wasn't a fan of this.

    The odd tonal shifts prevents this film from being scary or even unnerving. The weird ectoplasm ghost scene was just goofy. There's too many dangling subplots that don't go anywhere.

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    Stewart is good. I like the texting scenes.

    Maybe this brand of "arthouse horror" is not for me.
    Sure why not?

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    Obviously a weird movie, but I really enjoyed this. I don't understand what happened with, well, nearly anything in the film. And I'm not exaggerating about that. But I loved how observational this whole movie was. It devotes so much time to just watching Kristen Stewart. Watch her dress, make coffee, read a text, get increasingly impatient, get increasingly aroused, and so on. We are given so much time to just watch her process the things happening to her, from the mundane to the supernatural.

    I don't even like Stewart as an actress. I think she was just playing herself in this film as she does most films. But apparently I like just watching Kristen Stewart google photos.

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    Quote Quoting amberlita (view post)
    Obviously a weird movie, but I really enjoyed this. I don't understand what happened with, well, nearly anything in the film. And I'm not exaggerating about that. But I loved how observational this whole movie was. It devotes so much time to just watching Kristen Stewart. Watch her dress, make coffee, read a text, get increasingly impatient, get increasingly aroused, and so on. We are given so much time to just watch her process the things happening to her, from the mundane to the supernatural.
    Yep. I think I understand most of it (I really want/need to see it again), but it's more of a mood piece.

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