28 Film Discussion Threads Later

**Kurosawa Fan** · 10-01-2011, 03:54 AM

Quoting Irish (view post)

Bond doesn't need to be bankable? George Lazenby and Timothy Dalton say otherwise.

Pierce Brosnan is/was bankable?

Winston* · 10-01-2011, 03:55 AM

Sean Connery was bankable?

**Kurosawa Fan** · 10-01-2011, 03:57 AM

Roger Moore was bankable?

Winston* · 10-01-2011, 04:01 AM

Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)

Roger Moore was bankable?

Actually he was. Probably the only bankable actor to play Bond.

**Kurosawa Fan** · 10-01-2011, 04:10 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Actually he was. Probably the only bankable actor to play Bond.

At the box office? Because there's a big difference between pulling in ratings with TV series' like The Saint, and filling a movie theater.

Winston* · 10-01-2011, 04:16 AM

Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)

At the box office? Because there's a big difference between pulling in ratings with TV series' like The Saint, and filling a movie theater.

You're right KF. I concede the point.

**EyesWideOpen** · 10-01-2011, 04:19 AM

Danny Glover would make an interesting Spider-Man.

Winston* · 10-01-2011, 04:24 AM

Quoting EyesWideOpen (view post)

Danny Glover would make an interesting Spider-Man.

"I'm too old for this suit".

Ugh. Winston* kill yourself.

**Raiders** · 10-01-2011, 04:30 AM

I wavered in my interest to the central character and certainly to the confusing narrative about a missing cop and his gun, but Johnnie To's Mad Detective is perfectly directed. Perfect.

**Kurosawa Fan** · 10-01-2011, 04:41 AM

Quoting Raiders (view post)

I wavered in my interest to the central character and certainly to the confusing narrative about a missing cop and his gun, but Johnnie To's Mad Detective is perfectly directed. Perfect.

YES.

**Yxklyx** · 10-01-2011, 04:45 AM

Infernal Affairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Departed

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 04:58 AM

Quoting Raiders (view post)

I wavered in my interest to the central character and certainly to the confusing narrative about a missing cop and his gun, but Johnnie To's Mad Detective is perfectly directed. Perfect.

I haven't seen everything in the period but seems like To was firing on all cylinders for about 5-7 years there.

**Raiders** · 10-01-2011, 05:01 AM

Quoting Irish (view post)

I haven't seen everything in the period but seems like To was firing on all cylinders for about 5-7 years there.

Only seen this and Exiled from that period (only other I have seen at all is The Mission). I'm going to quickly go on a binge here soon though.

**B-side** · 10-01-2011, 05:07 AM

Has anyone else seen Breaking News? I've only seen it and Vengeance from To. The former being much better.

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 05:09 AM

Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)

Pierce Brosnan is/was bankable?

Are you honestly asking that question or are you just messing around?

At the time of his eventual casting, Brosnan was a firmly established actor in both American tv and movies. (Hell, they wanted him for Bond in 1985 on the basis of Remington Steele alone, but he got screwed by NBC.)

A lot of people here are Elba fans. I am too. But he's absolutely unknown to the public. That's not a guy you pick to carry a $200 million dollar movie (while hoping for $400 mil box office).

This is without thinking about the racial issue at all, which is most likely to be an ugly third rail to this kind of project.

My point with Lazenby etc: You go for a Bond with a shallow following and the audience half heartedly shows up. Those two guys have some of the lowest, if not the lowest, takes at the box office in the franchise's history. And they got fired pretty damned quickly. The producers don't want to have to introduce a new Bond every 3 years. They want a guy who is going to sign for multiple movies and carry 4 or more over a 10 year period.

**Ezee E** · 10-01-2011, 05:11 AM

I don't know if an actor from Mrs. Doubtfire and The Lawnmower Man is someone that I'd have in mind for Bond if I"m looking for bankable.

**MadMan** · 10-01-2011, 05:23 AM

Really in the end if they keep making Bonds Craig is probably good to go for at least two-three more, so its really all a moot point anyways. Waste of a good 1,000th page so far, folks :P

**MadMan** · 10-01-2011, 05:29 AM

Quoting Yxklyx (view post)

Infernal Affairs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Departed

To me its the other way around, which reminds me that I should bump my "Original v. Remake" thread that I had fun making.

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 05:32 AM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

Right here. And I didn't have to check IMDB. Go figure.

Oh good, you named one guy. Go ahead and take a look at his IMDb profile and you'll see he's cast opposite a high profile white actor more than half the time.

Not sure he can open anymore. The closest thing he's done to what we're taking about it is stuff like Man on Fire and Book of Eli, both of which had mediocre domestic box office.

He's done a fair amount of genre stuff but he's never been an action star. Try again. And don't say Morgan Freeman.

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 05:37 AM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

I don't know if an actor from Mrs. Doubtfire and The Lawnmower Man is someone that I'd have in mind for Bond if I"m looking for bankable.

Remington Steele is on Hulu. Watch 10 minutes of any episode and you'll see why everyone thinks "James Bond" as soon as Brosnon walks in the room. The show got middlin' ratings, but it was high profile and got a ton of press, mostly because Brosnan was a newcomer and managed to steal all the attention away from costar Stephanie Zimbalist, who was supposed to be the star.

Doubtfire was a huge success.

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 05:45 AM

Quoting Raiders (view post)

Only seen this and Exiled from that period (only other I have seen at all is The Mission). I'm going to quickly go on a binge here soon though.

Oh, see Vengeance. It's worth it for the opening 20 minutes alone. Post about it if you do, because I'd be very interested in your take on it.

**ledfloyd** · 10-01-2011, 05:48 AM

people either need to stop engaging irish in arguments or start kicking into my advil fund.

**MadMan** · 10-01-2011, 05:49 AM

Quoting ledfloyd (view post)

people either need to stop engaging irish in arguments or start kicking into my advil fund.

Well I've done the first thing, but I can't really afford the second one. Sorry....

**Irish** · 10-01-2011, 05:50 AM

Quoting ledfloyd (view post)

people either need to stop engaging irish in arguments or start kicking into my advil fund.

:lol: ran out of rep today but I owe you a +1.

**Qrazy** · 10-01-2011, 06:20 AM

Quoting Brightside (view post)

Has anyone else seen Breaking News? I've only seen it and Vengeance from To. The former being much better.

Yes, Breaking News is a decent second tier work from him. Neither of those is near his best output though... certainly watch more. In no particular order just because I don't feel like ranking right now but these are his best.

Mad Detective
Sparrow
Election 1
Election 2
Exiled
The Mission
PTU
Throwdown

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