28 Film Discussion Threads Later

**B-side** · 08-30-2011, 04:03 AM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

Dressed to Kill is just a perved out Psycho. Where's the appeal?

Stupid question.:P

**Lucky** · 08-30-2011, 04:06 AM

Quoting Brightside (view post)

I enjoyed The Black Dahlia.

I did too. Its parts are better than its sum, though.

After this movie and True Blood, I realized Fiona Shaw can play quite the crazy bitch.

**Bosco B Thug** · 08-30-2011, 04:32 AM

Even The Black Dahlia has its De Palma brilliance. And even The Fury could be truly awful while getting and somewhat deserving wildly garrulous 4-star reviews from smart critics. Thus is the paradox of De Palma.

There's so much to like about Dressed to Kill, but in retrospect, my main problem with it is I do not find the killer very interesting.

**Qrazy** · 08-30-2011, 05:11 AM

Just a friendly reminder that more of you should watch Clouzot's Les Espions.

**B-side** · 08-30-2011, 06:48 AM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

Just a friendly reminder that more of you should watch Clouzot's Les Espions.

Know what movie you should watch? Kairat.

**Sycophant** · 08-30-2011, 06:55 AM

It should be a crime for a film as great as Okamoto Kihachi's Samurai Assassin (a film better served by its original title, 侍 (Samurai)) to only exist on DVD in that shitty AnimEigo release, but at least I could see it. Between this, Sword of Doom, and Kill, I'm thinking it's a shame more of his work isn't readily available to Western audiences.

**B-side** · 08-30-2011, 07:00 AM

Quoting Sycophant (view post)

It should be a crime for a film as great as Okamoto Kihachi's Samurai Assassin (a film better served by its original title, 侍 (Samurai)) to only exist on DVD in that shitty AnimEigo release, but at least I could see it. Between this, Sword of Doom, and Kill, I'm thinking it's a shame more of his work isn't readily available to Western audiences.

If you're not opposed to it, KG has, like, 20 or 30 films of his. Seems many of them have English subtitles as well.

**transmogrifier** · 08-30-2011, 08:27 AM

Dressed to Kill is just great.

**B-side** · 08-30-2011, 09:29 AM

Sunday at Six is a formally splendid Resnais-esque romance set during the Nazi occupation of Romania. Love and faces appear fleeting and obscured by the fog of war and memory. Always waiting. Highly recommended to you KG'ers. This one isn't something only I would enjoy.

**Boner M** · 08-30-2011, 12:32 PM

Quoting transmogrifier (view post)

Dressed to Kill is just great.

Qrazy doesn't like perviness. Unless the camera's perving on the stern, weathered granite faces of ageing Russian men.

**Irish** · 08-30-2011, 02:36 PM

Gotta agree with trans. 10 minute storytelling sequence without dialogue? Yes please. That's just -- what to call it? -- pure cinema. Admittedly the 3rd act is the weakest part of the movie, but that tends to be true of all DePalma's stuff.

Casualties of War is all kinds of awful. A truly ugly premise that plays badly off of Penn's persona and Fox's boyish tv good looks. A movie like that needs hard authenticity and DePalma is too in love with the movies and their inherent phoniness to pull it off.

**Mr. Pink** · 08-30-2011, 08:02 PM

I was gonna defend Dressed to Kill until I saw everyone else did. I like Body Double quite a bit, too. Patrick Bateman rented it a shitload of times in the American Psycho novel, so it's gotta be good.

**Qrazy** · 08-30-2011, 08:12 PM

Quoting Mr. Pink (view post)

I was gonna defend Dressed to Kill until I saw everyone else did. I like Body Double quite a bit, too. Patrick Bateman rented it a shitload of times in the American Psycho novel, so it's gotta be good.

Yeah, that one was pretty awful also.

Honestly when I watch these De Palma films all I can is one day he woke up and said to himself... what if I meshed Hitchcock's sensibilities with softcore porn! Oh the possibilities!

His ability to occasionally compose a compelling long shot just can't justify his flat, hazy close-ups and slow-mo orchestra heavy melodramatic excess.

**MadMan** · 08-30-2011, 08:33 PM

Blow-Out>Qrazy.

So far, I like De Palma, but granted I've only viewed about 4 or 5 of his movies so far. Carrie is probably next up, although The Fury is on Instant Viewing.

**Grouchy** · 08-30-2011, 08:38 PM

Dressed to Kill and Body Double are both pretty brilliant and would make a nice 2-feature. Haven't seen them in a long time.

**Rowland** · 08-30-2011, 09:02 PM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

slow-mo orchestra heavy melodramatic excess.

As a De Palma fan, I find that there's a bit too much of this in some of his films even for my taste. Casualties of War, Obsession, and The Fury immediately spring to mind.

**Qrazy** · 08-30-2011, 09:25 PM

Quoting Rowland (view post)

As a De Palma fan, I find that there's a bit too much of this in some of his films even for my taste. Casualties of War, Obsession, and The Fury immediately spring to mind.

Yeah, he really overdid it in the scene where MJ Fox was about to take the girl away in CoW.

**Qrazy** · 08-30-2011, 09:25 PM

Quoting MadMan (view post)

Blow-Out>Qrazy.

So far, I like De Palma, but granted I've only viewed about 4 or 5 of his movies so far. Carrie is probably next up, although The Fury is on Instant Viewing.

I never said I disliked Blow Out.

**Derek** · 08-30-2011, 09:28 PM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

Yeah, he really overdid it in the scene where MJ Fox was about to take the girl away in CoW.

You'd prefer more subtitlety?

**Qrazy** · 08-30-2011, 09:34 PM

Quoting Derek (view post)

You'd prefer more subtitlety?

Well coming from De Palma that might be expecting a bit much. I guess I would have preferred more subtittylety.

**soitgoes...** · 08-30-2011, 11:16 PM

Quoting Derek (view post)

Manji (Matsumoto, 1964) **½
Black Test Car (Matsumoto, 1962) ***½

I commented on Black Test Car awhile back, and I completely missed that you have the director as Matsumoto instead of Masumura. Check out Irezumi, Red Angel and especially Seisaku's Wife. Manji didn't do much for me either, but those three are pretty special. And since you have Matsumoto listed in your sig, you should check out Symbol please.

**Yxklyx** · 08-31-2011, 12:55 AM

Quoting soitgoes... (view post)

I commented on Black Test Car awhile back, and I completely missed that you have the director as Matsumoto instead of Masumura. Check out Irezumi, Red Angel and especially Seisaku's Wife. Manji didn't do much for me either, but those three are pretty special. And since you have Matsumoto listed in your sig, you should check out Symbol please.

I prefer Manji and Giants and Toys actually - I hated Blind Beast.

**Sycophant** · 08-31-2011, 01:00 AM

Most people should see Matsumoto's Symbol.

**Derek** · 08-31-2011, 01:09 AM

Quoting soitgoes... (view post)

I commented on Black Test Car awhile back, and I completely missed that you have the director as Matsumoto instead of Masumura. Check out Irezumi, Red Angel and especially Seisaku's Wife. Manji didn't do much for me either, but those three are pretty special. And since you have Matsumoto listed in your sig, you should check out Symbol please.

Heh, corrected. Thanks for the recs. I'll get on those ASAP. If you like Giants & Toys, you'll probably like Black Test Car as well - not as comical, but still a great take on the dehumanizing effects of corporate espionage and the changing climate in Japan in the late 50s/early 60s.

**Watashi** · 08-31-2011, 01:15 AM

What the fuck, Lucas?

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