Anime Series Discussion Thread

**lovejuice** · 03-03-2009, 11:19 PM

Quoting Sycophant (view post)

Though this is the anime discussion thread, I'd very much be interested in finding out what your favorite manga are, lovejuice, as I've never really read any.

my favorite manga ever is Sanshirou no Jijyou. it's never popular enough to be made into anime, so really few people outside the east asian know about it. if you google it, hardly anything related to the series come up, in fact.

a more well-known examples are city hunter and maps. those three are like the trinity of my manga religion. (3x3 eyes used to be here, but was demoted because of the suckfest near the end.)

**Stay Puft** · 03-04-2009, 07:51 AM

Quoting lovejuice (view post)

(3x3 eyes used to be here, but was demoted because of the suckfest near the end.)

I have fond memories of reading 3x3 eyes when I was younger, even though I only ever read the first handful of volumes. Of course, now that I'm getting nostalgic and looking it up, I'm reading that Dark Horse actually cancelled the run after volume eight, anyways, so I wouldn't have gotten much further. Too bad about the ending, though. I can't believe that it was 40 volumes in total! I missed so much...

**lovejuice** · 03-04-2009, 04:19 PM

Quoting Thirdmango (view post)

Naruto had a great beginning. Good side characters and a good overall story line they were going for....The Akatsuki are interesting characters and I like them when they're used but everything is just focused on Naruto now. The side characters have all disappeared.

agree with your last statement here, although the real problem, i think, is sasuke. it's obvious kishimoto's in love with this spoiled brat. i too wish, he spends more time with side characters.

Quoting Thirdmango (view post)

Bleach...This one seems to have gone into broken record mode at the moment and they keep doing the same fights over and over of Ichigo not being able to win, and then finding it in himself to beat him.

i read the manga, and the gig gets old like >10 issues ago. it follows the rotten footprint/formula of every popular manga ever since established by DBZ. Bleach is slightly above average by its art and how it never took itself too seriously.

Quoting Thirdmango (view post)

I am in love with One Piece and I am a bit surprised that there isn't more support for this one....The skypeia (Sky Island) story line is much too long and boring.

but it has the thunder god!! as a big physics nerd, i love this villain. if you are "light," you must be the most powerful mother in the whole universe (although later on there is this guy who's "gravity/darkness".) i agree with you, oda's really passionate about his work. i rather prefer he better structures the story. right now, it's one random arch after the other.

Quoting Stay Puft (view post)

I have fond memories of reading 3x3 eyes when I was younger, even though I only ever read the first handful of volumes...I can't believe that it was 40 volumes in total! I missed so much...

1-5 ---> dear lord, thank for gracing us human with this heavenly comics.
6-11 ---> amazingly well-paced, and very strong.
11-20 ---> err...kinda pointless, but ok.
21-30 ---> totally different from what it was at the beginning, but very fun and exciting to read.
31-39 ---> reading these is like watching the last installment of godfather trilogy.
40 ---> it hurts. badly.

**number8** · 03-05-2009, 04:18 PM

I think I've finally figured out my aversion to anime shows. It took reading the Welcome to NHK manga and remembering you guys raving about the anime for me to figure it out.

Most popular anime shows are based on manga, right? If they're straight adaptations, I think I'm just more inclined to read than to watch. Unfortunately, most of them are straight adaptations, and I don't like that. The reason I love cartoons like Batman: TAS and Justice League is that they're not--they create original stories, original timelines, they even reshape the characters to be different from their comic book counterparts. I like being able to differentiate. It annoys me when I watch an anime and a certain scene is toned down or handled not as well as they did in the manga.

I think about the two anime shows I love: Paranoia Agent and Cowboy Bebop. Both original creations. Whenever I hear about a certain acclaimed show, my first instinct is to seek out the manga it's based on. Then after I've read it, I would lose interest in seeing the adaptation. Case in point: GTO. I have the entire manga series collected. I have never and don't think I'll ever watch the anime. Same with Berserk, Dragon Ball Z, Monster, etc.

**Thirdmango** · 03-05-2009, 04:33 PM

I guess I can see that for things like DC comics where there are so many different versions of the same characters. But I don't know if I can see it for comics which follow one path. Watching filler episodes of anime is really hard because they're just so awful, they stray from the content already created and there is little to no growth. The problem is we're in an age where that can't really happen anymore. We can't have someone create something original and then have multiple differing versions of those original characters done by other people into something good. JSA, Batman, those can work because they've been around for so long. I don't think it's possible for anime to be able to take current characters and create something new. It either has to be straight from the comic or an original work.

**number8** · 03-05-2009, 04:40 PM

Quoting Thirdmango (view post)

I guess I can see that for things like DC comics where there are so many different versions of the same characters. But I don't know if I can see it for comics which follow one path. Watching filler episodes of anime is really hard because they're just so awful, they stray from the content already created and there is little to no growth. The problem is we're in an age where that can't really happen anymore. We can't have someone create something original and then have multiple differing versions of those original characters done by other people into something good. JSA, Batman, those can work because they've been around for so long. I don't think it's possible for anime to be able to take current characters and create something new. It either has to be straight from the comic or an original work.

Well, I agree with this, and that's not what I'd rather see. What I'm saying is that since this is the case, I'd rather read the original manga, and that means my anime watching is really limited.

**Sycophant** · 03-05-2009, 04:44 PM

I actually generally have a policy of avoiding the novel or comic form of any television or film projects. I'll go back and explore those later, but I find I want my viewing... untainted?

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the way number8's doing things or anything; just ain't my way.

**number8** · 03-05-2009, 04:48 PM

Quoting Sycophant (view post)

I actually generally have a policy of avoiding the novel or comic form of any television or film projects. I'll go back and explore those later, but I find I want my viewing... untainted?

Not that I think there's anything wrong with the way number8's doing things or anything; just ain't my way.

That would probably be ideal, since you can watch it to get the experience and then read the source material to get a fuller scope. I could just do that, but I dunno... Maybe I just have to admit to myself that I consider comics a superior medium to film.

**Sycophant** · 03-05-2009, 04:36 PM

I've read a few things saying that Welcome to the NHK actually underwent several changes to its plot points, mostly minor. However, since people "read it first," they, as people always do when they first read something in prose or in comic, held it against the series for changing anything at all. While I haven't read the manga, I thought it used its medium as television anime very well.

Some of my favorite shows, such as Azumanga Daioh, are practically recreations of the manga. Interestingly, my favorite AD episode is one that contains no material from the comic strip, but was written entirely for the show.

**lovejuice** · 03-05-2009, 04:37 PM

Quoting number8 (view post)

I think I've finally figured out my aversion to anime shows...Most popular anime shows are based on manga, right? If they're straight adaptations, I think I'm just more inclined to read than to watch. Unfortunately, most of them are straight adaptations, and I don't like that.

if there's a choice, i too prefer manga to anime. but then there exist many good shows that are not manga-based (as you mentioned). and then there are shows like trigun which are significantly different from its manga counterpart. moreover if i really like the manga, it feels fresh to "read" the story again in a different format, Rurouni Kenshin for example. (RK is a curious example because the anime actually sucks when it tries to build its own story arch.)

so i agree with you that manga's preferable to anime, but i don't think that's enough reason for "aversion" to the medium.

**Qrazy** · 03-05-2009, 04:48 PM

Quoting number8 (view post)

I think I've finally figured out my aversion to anime shows. It took reading the Welcome to NHK manga and remembering you guys raving about the anime for me to figure it out.

Most popular anime shows are based on manga, right? If they're straight adaptations, I think I'm just more inclined to read than to watch. Unfortunately, most of them are straight adaptations, and I don't like that. The reason I love cartoons like Batman: TAS and Justice League is that they're not--they create original stories, original timelines, they even reshape the characters to be different from their comic book counterparts. I like being able to differentiate. It annoys me when I watch an anime and a certain scene is toned down or handled not as well as they did in the manga.

I think about the two anime shows I love: Paranoia Agent and Cowboy Bebop. Both original creations. Whenever I hear about a certain acclaimed show, my first instinct is to seek out the manga it's based on. Then after I've read it, I would lose interest in seeing the adaptation. Case in point: GTO. I have the entire manga series collected. I have never and don't think I'll ever watch the anime. Same with Berserk, Dragon Ball Z, Monster, etc.

That's pretty reasonable. Once I moved to the Naruto manga I now have no interest in watching the horribly paced show. In general though I prefer the anime to the manga so I'd rather watch the anime first then read the manga. But I usually only read the manga if there's content I'm missing... i.e. the show didn't continue long enough or isn't there yet... for that reason I'll probably read Berserk eventually since the anime ending sucked horribly.

**lovejuice** · 03-05-2009, 05:06 PM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

That's pretty reasonable. Once I moved to the Naruto manga I now have no interest in watching the horribly paced show.

speaking of which, i have gone through the onemanga archive. that's really crazy. i feel bad for pain, since i guess kichimoto's about to kill him off. what a cool villain!

**Qrazy** · 03-05-2009, 05:28 PM

Quoting lovejuice (view post)

speaking of which, i have gone through the onemanga archive. that's really crazy. i feel bad for pain, since i guess kichimoto's about to kill him off. what a cool villain!

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