The Invisible Man (Leigh Whannell)

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[Ivan Drago]

I loved this!

Oh, and to those who thought that the trailer gave everything away. . .it doesn't.

[Skitch]

I'm hearing really good things about this from sources I trust.

[Ezee E]

Enjoyed this a lot.

Yes, there are some major plot holes that you could rip this movie apart with.

However, it's so confidently directed, effectively suspenseful, and with Moss leading the way, it's worth the time.

[Ezee E]

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Is there anything factual in the movie that Griffin was behind any of this at all? Or was he just killed in cold blood and she really was kinda/sorta driven crazy?

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Is there anything factual in the movie that Griffin was behind any of this at all? Or was he just killed in cold blood and she really was kinda/sorta driven crazy?

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Huh? Your theory is that his brother was the one doing it the whole time and that Griffin was telling the truth at the end? That's interesting. Basically leaves Cecelia as the gaslighting killer at the end.

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What plot holes were you referring to?

[Milky Joe]

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Cecelia was abused and manipulated by Adrian long before the movie started. It's not like he just suddenly started being a psychopath after she left him. She left him for a reason.

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Great movie though.

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Cecelia was abused and manipulated by Adrian long before the movie started. It's not like he just suddenly started being a psychopath after she left him. She left him for a reason.

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Great movie though.

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the brother on his own to target Cecelia to any degree, let alone the psychotic degree he does in the movie. There is no motive there at all.

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[Ezee E]

It also doesn't make much sense for [

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the brother on his own to target Cecelia to any degree, let alone the psychotic degree he does in the movie. There is no motive there at all.

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This is actually a really good point.

[DavidSeven]

He does have a motive.

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If the brother sets her up for a crime, she returns her $5 million inheritance to the trust, of which her brother is surely a beneficiary. Making her look insane in the process solidifies the case. Of course, the ex-boyfriend sets this all up to frame his brother framing his ex-girlfriend.

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Very solid and entertaining movie, though a bit more generic-y than one might expect based on the general raves.

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If the brother sets her up for a crime, she returns her $5 million inheritance to the trust, of which her brother is surely a beneficiary. Making her look insane in the process solidifies the case. Of course, the ex-boyfriend sets this all up to frame his brother framing his ex-girlfriend.

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that happens after she "kills" her sister though. If he was acting alone, and that was his motive, then he won at that point. There was certainly no need to be hanging round her cell. Or trying to kill a random (to him) teenage girl. Even still, he would have received money himself in the will, so I don't buy that as a motive at all. AND why keep his brother alive at all if all he wanted was the money? Nah, man, it doesn't make a lick of sense.

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[DavidSeven]

Not saying that any of it is well-executed from a logic standpoint, but I believe that is what the film was trying to sell. Fair point about it not making sense to continue after she’s been confined, though.

[Ezee E]

This is making me think about it even more....

I still don't know if the Ex-Boyfriend, who was a terrible boyfriend no matter the case, ever left his house to begin with.

The only thing I can think of with the brother is that he was obsessed with his brother's ex as well, and once things got out of hand in the hospital, he was potentially exposed.

But can't think of any reason why both brothers would be "invisible men" if the Ex was following her around... Unless he was just that rich that he built that elaborate game to torture her on end, brother eventually inherits his own money, and he just lives on as an Invisible Man... Weird.

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I found the brothers' relationship a bit peculiar in general (assuming they are both in on it and the one didn't kidnap the other). Seems a bit convenient that they are both psychopaths and both all in on gaslighting Cecilia. I might buy it more in some Dead Ringers symbiotic evil twins sort of way.

Isn't the ending supposed to be ambiguous? The spinning top of Inception in this is whether or not her ex was telling the truth about his brother. Clearly Cecilia at that point doesn't care, plus he was an abusive scumbag anyway, so I don't think she gave a rat's ass that she slit his throat and got away with it. Live long enough to become the villain, etc.

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Not saying that any of it is well-executed from a logic standpoint, but I believe that is what the film was trying to sell. Fair point about it not making sense to continue after she’s been confined, though.

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It's possible that the brother just kept using the suit not for any logic purposes, but just to be a creepy pervert Hollow Man style. He might have had a crush on Cecelia (surely he knew her via his brother) and used the suit to spy on her, possibly sexually assault her. I don't know. I'm kinda spitballing at this point, but one of the more interesting things about the invisible man movies is how much of your moral compass gets screwed up if you think you can get away with anything. And it's not like these two brothers had any morals to begin with. Can you imagine what Harvey Weinstein would get up to with an invisible man suit?

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[Morris Schæffer]

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Adrian committed suicide, there was a news item on the sister's phone so whose body was it? Didn't the authorities find a body? Was it a fake news report? At the end, how did the assault team know adrian was held captive in the basement? I sure soiled myself when she threw the white paint on him and his contours are visible for the first time. The brother was probably the one with the suit, manipulated to do adrian's dirty work. The movie makes clear that's what he's good at.

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Super tense flick, love it.

[Morris Schæffer]

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On 2nd thought, I guess that it was only the brother makes more sense. When he spoke to Cecilia, his disgust for his brother was quite clear, there was a lot of antagonism there, maybe he wasn't part of the will, and orchestrated the whole thing, framed Cecilia and was looking at a nice fat paycheck of 5 million bucks. Right?

Although there was one thing that triggered me. At the very end when Cecilia is back with Adrian and he's crouched next to her to soothe her, he utters the word 'surprise' in a sentence, which is a word which pops up a few times throughout the movie. And I felt that this triggered something in her, some sort of recognition in that very moment.

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On 2nd thought, I guess that it was only the brother makes more sense. When he spoke to Cecilia, his disgust for his brother was quite clear, there was a lot of antagonism there, maybe he wasn't part of the will, and orchestrated the whole thing, framed Cecilia and was looking at a nice fat paycheck of 5 million bucks. Right?

Although there was one thing that triggered me. At the very end when Cecilia is back with Adrian and he's crouched next to her to soothe her, he utters the word 'surprise' in a sentence, which is a word which pops up a few times throughout the movie. And I felt that this triggered something in her, some sort of recognition in that very moment.

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I thought the "surprise" was a bit of a tell for the viewer. It's possible that it was just a coincidence that he used that word, but you're right that it certainly solidified to her (rightly or wrongly) that Adrian was in on it all along. One of the more interesting things about this film is how much of it is from Cecilia's perspective (are there any scenes w/o her in it?), so we never know for sure what is happening with the two brothers off screen. We essentially have to infer another narrative. People on other sites have mentioned "plot holes" but I think it is more of a narrative hole of not knowing what is happening outside of Cecilia. This is a strength of the film. A feature, not a bug.

[Morris Schæffer]

Plot hole vs. Narrative hole. The latter isn't one that involves Mack trucks.

[Irish]

Fun fact!

Writer-director Leigh Whannell appeared on screen in "The Bye Bye Man," Duke's favorite horror movie.

[megladon8]

Fun fact!

Writer-director Leigh Whannell appeared on screen in "The Bye Bye Man," Duke's favorite horror movie.

Please submit that to IMDb trivia.

[Dukefrukem]

Fun fact!

Writer-director Leigh Whannell appeared on screen in "The Bye Bye Man," Duke's favorite horror movie.

All of MC needs to watch this movie to understand the horror.

[Irish]

Huge nay.

I though this was straight up bad. It's a rote domestic violence thriller with only a splash of sci-fi, the characters are underwritten, the relationships and settings unestablished, and the scenarios are implausible. The movie lacks detail when it needs it for authenticity and it lacks energy and flair when it needs it for thrills.

My two biggest problems:

- For the first hour, the villain's actions don't require invisibility. They don't even require superhero-style abilities (which he somehow later adopts). I thought it was deeply silly that this guy's master plan involved sending mean emails and burning her breakfast.

- The villain isn't a person or character. He's a special effect and a visually dull one at that. Plenty of better examples of screen boogeymen in other movies. Why did we need this guy? What does he do or say or think that makes him special or interesting? Outside the suit, that is.

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I don't think it was ambiguous because we're meant to sympathize with Moss. If the ex- is innocent of everything that happened on screen then she's a straight up cold blooded murderer and a fairly unsympathetic one at that.

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[Ezee E]

I have yet to see anyone prove that the ex was behind any of what happened, except that he was abusive prior to the movie.

[Irish]

In a horrror sci-fi fantasy that stacks implausibility like cordwood, you want ... proof? ... of something?