While I obviously feel that Unforgiven did a good job of deconstructing the Western as a whole, that's not the main reason why I love it, as I barely noticed that aspect of the film at all when I first watched it (at the age of 14); the main reason I loved it was because I found it to be emotionally entrancing as a stand-alone narrative, and then I appreciated the way it deconstructed the genre much later.Quoting baby doll (view post)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day vs. Boogie Nights
Goodfellas vs. Unforgiven
Would have voted for Pulp Fiction regardless of what was going against it.
Can't say as much for Princess Mononoke staying in the competition.These Princess Mononoke results... make it stop...
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"a movie built around action set pieces"
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I thought it was a movie with action and big explosions plus dudes and chicks with muscles. Also lots of bullets and some kung fu, maybe. Action!
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There are lots of ways to define it, and I'm no expert, but in this instance I'll say movies with at least two explosions and one chase scene.
A movie built around forward momentum, facilitated by exciting set pieces (e.g., explosions, gun rights, car chases), with the main purpose to vicariously thrill and entertain the audience.
I'm fond of saying that boring movies aren't necessarily bad and I think action may be the one genre where that's absolutely untrue. Are action movies defined by their entertainment value?
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Why is anyone not surprised by this response.
Because I've interacted with bd before. I rolled my eyes and moved on.
Those responding to it are giving him his upcoming excuses. Quit taking the bait.
Define it however you want, bd. You will anyway.
It's worth asking. I've seen a number of "Best Action Films of X Year/Decade", and there are always a number of listed films where I think "Bullshit that is an action film"
From Time Out's list, I don't think The Wild Bunch, Once Upon a Time in the West, Heat, Oldboy etc are action movies
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I agree it’s worth asking. Somebody mentioned Stagecoach for instance, and while I get it, defining terms can be useful.
I don't see what's wrong with baby doll's question.
I've never considered Aliens an action movie, yet it is frequently on "best action movies" lists.
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I don't mean its wrong to ask, I think people inclined to make lists should set their own parameters. The argument about what is and what isn't in such and such genre is annoying and stupid.
Depends, I guess.
I'll argue all day and night that Star Wars is fantasy, not sci fi. I think "it takes place in space" is often conflated with sci fi. But Star Wars has much more in common thematically and narratively with Lord of the Rings than it does, say, Blade Runner.
Where the line can theoretically get blurry is space opera. But even that typically has strong emphasis on extrapolated real world scientific ideas, and socio political commentary. Look at The Expanse for an example of space opera. The core of the series (books and show) is character and dramatic narrative, but it bases its universe on relatively grounded science and a relatable political climate.
Star Wars is basically Arthurian legend (which is already fantasy) retold in a different setting.
If it had been underwater people would have still called it fantasy. It's purely due to the fact that it is set in space that people call it sci fi.
And I call those people plebs.
"All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"
"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
I think it's more than space. Its spaceships and lasers and different planets and aliens. I don't disagree it's heavy fantasy as well.
And this is what I mean...these arguments are dumb. Make any list you like and put any movie on it, who cares.
Pleb.
"All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"
"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
Are action/sci-fi/fantasy mutually exclusive?
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Not at all.
But if we made a ven diagram of the 3, I would have Star Wars in the action/fantasy overlap, not sci fi.
"All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"
"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
Is “adventure” a genre, or is that just video games? Because that’s where I’d put stuff like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and LOTR.
I feel like it's an offshoot of action.
Not every action movie is an adventure, but pretty much every adventure movie is action.
"All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"
"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
Yes, adventure is a genre imo, separate from action and scifi.
Hypothetical:
You are working at Hollywood Video and you've been tasked with putting away the returned cassettes, after ensuring they're all rewound. Your boss Jarod has been on your ass about getting the genres correct. You have the following sections: Sci-fi, Action, Drama, Comedy. Where do you put the following film:
- Robocop
- Blade Runner
- Mad Max
- Time Bandits
- Satantango
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Robocop sci fi
Blade Runner sci fi
Mad Max action
Time Bandits comedy
Satantango drama
Come on, that was baby town frolics.
"All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"
"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
Besides, we all know that any real world video store would have had Satantango in that genre called "foreign".
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"Rick...it's a flamethrower."
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