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  1. 09-21-2009, 08:47 PM #26
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    I caught Part 1 of this on DVD. It nearly put me to sleep.
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    JOHN. FUCKING. WOO.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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  4. 10-03-2009, 12:18 AM #29
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    Well, the website says this won't be coming anywhere near me. At least at first, but I get the impression that that is the extent of the cities.
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    Just saw it. The 2.5 hour American version, not the two-parts version. It must be heavily edited, because this is so action-packed it barely had any moment to slow down. I can't imagine it putting anyone to sleep.

    It's quite a blast because of it.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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  6. 10-16-2009, 06:18 AM #31
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    Just saw it. The 2.5 hour American version, not the two-parts version. It must be heavily edited, because this is so action-packed it barely had any moment to slow down. I can't imagine it putting anyone to sleep.

    It's quite a blast because of it.
    that sounds like a version to see.
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  7. 10-16-2009, 06:22 AM #32
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    The tortoise form battle is spectacular.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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  8. 10-16-2009, 06:23 AM #33
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    The tortoise form battle is spectacular.
    i think that scene is kinda funny. obviously it's not historically accurate.
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  9. 10-16-2009, 06:35 AM #34
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    I kinda wanna see the full versions though.
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    I bought the five hour version on disk.

    Watched part one last night. I liked the unhurried pace to it. Liu Bei is more of a background character than I would have thought. Cao Cao is interesting. He's jovial, nasty, lonely and kind of pathetic. His next to last scene on part one with the dancer feels like something out of Vertigo.

    Watching part two tonight. I'm wondering if I want to get the edited down version for later viewings.
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    FIVE HOURS?! Well, I guess that answers my question about the theatrical and extended cuts...
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  12. 03-29-2010, 05:21 PM #37
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    Well, not really a five-hour movie. Technically, it's two separate 2.5 hour movies.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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  13. 03-29-2010, 06:03 PM #38
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    As I understand it, the 5-hour "international version" that just got released in the US is an alteration of the "Asian version" that's available on DVD in Asia, right?

    Gonna import, I suppose.
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    One wonders how it took me two years and a class requirement to finally get around to Red Cliff, but I've now seen all 5 glorious hours, and I couldn't be much more pleased. It's everything I've wanted to see and more. John Woo directing Tony Leung, Takeshi Kaneshiro, Vicki Zhao, and a host of other amazing actors with eighty million dollars. At its heart, it's a beautiful story about when two beautiful men respect and love the shit out of each other. The first of the two films seemed paced a little better and a little more satisfying as a standalone piece, but I've got no complaints.
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    Move to General Film Discussion, please?
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  16. 07-08-2024, 02:05 AM #41
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    Finally watched the theatrical version, as 1) it was leaving Thai Netflix (and the only one easily streamable to me at the moment), 2) the receptions to truncated theatrical one vs the full two films are more divisive than I first expected among those I follow (including matchcut here), and 3) it would be a long while before I would get around to those two films anyway. That said, this makes me more curious for (3), as it already feels like a realized epic war film in itself, sans some rushed expositions at the beginning (it may help that I am already broadly familiar with this story), so it would be interesting to see the trade-off between if the theatrical one cuts off too much the more fleshed-out character bits and if the full one sacrifices momentum for keeping every bit in. Anyway, even here Woo's set-pieces come so exhilaratingly orchestrated, with standouts being arrow maneuver, fireships, and especially the tortoise formation. Tony Leung also provides quite a charismatic megawatt presence to ground the whole thing, along with Zhang Fengyi on the villain side. 8/10
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