Video Games...Discuss Them

[number8]

Or people who only rented Max Payne 3 and thought $5 is a good price to replay it.

Also for people who don't have a PS2 anymore and wanted to revisit said games for a bargain. Haven't played the original RDD in years.

[Dukefrukem]

That is the reason why Sony chose to end backwards compatibility IMO. They want you to re-buy everything on PSN.

[Watashi]

That is the reason why Sony chose to end backwards compatibility IMO. They want you to re-buy everything on PSN.

And yet most of the PS1/PS2 games I want are not available.

[Spun Lepton]

Yeah, I ended up buying all this. That is a lot of games for $25.

I wore out the buttons on my controller with Manhunt. Such a gleefully sick game.

[Sven]

It's a lot easier to accept Kratos's callousness than Nathan Drake's.

[megladon8]

It's a lot easier to accept Kratos's callousness than Nathan Drake's.

Ehhh...I've kinda come around on Drake, too.

He's defending himself in all three games. Sure, it results in hundreds of deaths...but it's not like he's killing innocents. They are all trying to kill him, and are also all the instigators of the conflict. Despite overall body count, nothing he does is any worse than anything Indiana Jones did in his three movies. He killed plenty to defend himself, too.

Sure he's rather flippant about it all which is a tad disconcerting at times, but none of his behaviour is as atrocious as Kratos' murdering of innocent men, women and children in pursuit of his own selfish revenge.

[Ezee E]

Is Kratos murdering children, women? I mean, you can, but you don't get potions and red dots with it. I thought. It's just the weird demon things, and gods that you kill, and actually trying to kill Kratos.

The man is the meanest, most hateful character i've ever seen though.

Ascension sucked though.

[megladon8]

Is Kratos murdering children, women? I mean, you can, but you don't get potions and red dots with it. I thought. It's just the weird demon things, and gods that you kill, and actually trying to kill Kratos.

The man is the meanest, most hateful character i've ever seen though.

Ascension sucked though.

I don't know that whether you get XP (red) dots for it really matters. You do get health points, though, if you kill "regular" people.

Kratos regularly kills innocents in order to get what he wants. In "GoW 2" he kills two of those innocent old translator guys because he needed a blood sacrifice and they were handy.

[Sven]

All stories that play on that deistic scale, epics of the Pantheon, marginalize humanity. It's practically a trope to treat humans as fodder. It's easy to accept Kratos killing innocents because every religion is based on supposedly good Gods who have killed many, many innocents. Myth is an acceptable framework for genocide, let alone sacrifice. Also, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to approve of Kratos. Complaining about his atrocious behavior is like complaining that lemon is sour.

[Dukefrukem]

Finished Rage yesterday. Bleh

[megladon8]

All stories that play on that deistic scale, epics of the Pantheon, marginalize humanity. It's practically a trope to treat humans as fodder. It's easy to accept Kratos killing innocents because every religion is based on supposedly good Gods who have killed many, many innocents. Myth is an acceptable framework for genocide, let alone sacrifice. Also, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to approve of Kratos. Complaining about his atrocious behavior is like complaining that lemon is sour.

I would argue that Kratos is definitely meant to be a sympathetic protagonist. The death of his wife and child being repeated and referenced ad infinitum as the reason for his quest for revenge, repeatedly having him "unjustly" thrown into Hades and presenting his escape as an emotional moment of triumph. Plus the continuous hammering of the point that all of the Gods are massive dicks who keep pooping on Kratos' parade.

I don't think the games try to say Kratos is a decent, fun-lovin' dude...but they certainly intend the player to want to see him win.

Which I don't. I kind of want to see him get his ass handed to him.

[Winston*]

I just don't like that bit in the third one where you have to use a topless woman's corpse to keep a door open. (Spoilers)

[EyesWideOpen]

I played about an hour and a half of Remember Me (the most recent PS+ free game) and it's great so far. Arkham games style combat system mixed with Neo-Paris and memory jacking.

[Ezee E]

If you don't support Kratos in God of War, there's a shitload of other games you can't support.

[Winston*]

If you don't support Kratos in God of War, there's a shitload of other games you can't support.

Think of all the poor innocents Mario kills. Just walking back and forth minding their own business...

[Watashi]

Think of all those poor innocent ghosts that Mrs. Pac-Man consumes for her pleasure.

[megladon8]

If you don't support Kratos in God of War, there's a shitload of other games you can't support.

It's not like I'm crusading against him. I am still finding the games a lot of fun (and man is 3 gorgeous).

The conversation just began with me making the observation that Kratos is a pretty big asshole.

[Spun Lepton]

I would argue that Kratos is definitely meant to be a sympathetic protagonist. The death of his wife and child being repeated and referenced ad infinitum as the reason for his quest for revenge, repeatedly having him "unjustly" thrown into Hades and presenting his escape as an emotional moment of triumph. Plus the continuous hammering of the point that all of the Gods are massive dicks who keep pooping on Kratos' parade.

I don't believe we're supposed to sympathise with Kratos. Maybe we were a little bit at the beginning, but the developers have bent over backwards to make him dispicable. The ending of 3 is a pretty grim statement about revenge.

[EyesWideOpen]

I don't believe we're supposed to sympathise with Kratos. Maybe we were a little bit at the beginning, but the developers have bent over backwards to make him dispicable. The ending of 3 is a pretty grim statement about revenge.

Exactly. He's a character whose only focus is revenge (even though he's really to blame for his family dying) with no regard for innocents or anything else. I've played through 1-3 and the first two I just replayed last month and I didn't feel a single moment where I was supposed to sympathize with him.

[Morris Schæffer]

Well, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 was certainly a spectacular action game. Predictably over the top, but with a sense of urgency thanks to the reasonably smart and intriguing narrative. And for all the bitching online about underperforming graphical engines, I thought the visuals were memorable and thrilling. These games have always done scope and mayhem very well and this is no different.

On to The Walking Dead now, all five episodes!

[EyesWideOpen]

Played through Left Behind last night and it's fantastic. Better then the main game.

[megladon8]

Well, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 was certainly a spectacular action game. Predictably over the top, but with a sense of urgency thanks to the reasonably smart and intriguing narrative. And for all the bitching online about underperforming graphical engines, I thought the visuals were memorable and thrilling. These games have always done scope and mayhem very well and this is no different.

On to The Walking Dead now, all five episodes!

Yeah, "Black Ops 2" breathed new life into the series, with its branching narrative and new missions designs.

Too bad they undid it all and went back to a by-the-numbers CoD game with "Ghosts".

[Kurosawa Fan]

Started Outlast last night. That's one intense experience thus far. I kind of love not being able to fight. Makes it feel more like I'm the one in the building.

[Morris Schæffer]

The Walking Dead is giving me pause. It's uncommonly engaging for a videogame, populated with real people and dialogue, but I'm not feeling like I'm playing a lot, rather watching and listening most of the time.

[EyesWideOpen]

The Walking Dead is giving me pause. It's uncommonly engaging for a videogame, populated with real people and dialogue, but I'm not feeling like I'm playing a lot, rather watching and listening most of the time.

That's the majority of the series so if that's a negative for you stop now.