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    Quote Quoting kuehnepips (view post)
    Yes it is. Thanks for the recommendation.

    Have you ever read Potocki's Manuscript found in Saragossa?
    I have not, but I've heard of it and it sounds interesting. Should probably be on my radar.

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    Just ordered these:







    Joe R. Lansdale under a pseudonym.

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    It's actually a lot like it. They are both pulling from and building upon the myths of their countries of origin. Both are stories about assembling a party of characters to take something somewhere to better themselves and their land. LOTR takes it's time with the characters, especially at the beginning; it takes a long time for the quest to begin and for them to leave the shire. LD is similar, in that it is almost 200 pages before the party leaves Lonesome Dove to start its quest. The parties in the two books are assembled, and each of the main characters has his own specialty or "power."
    This is akin to saying that The Big Sleep is the same as The ABC Murders because they both involve parlor room mysteries with a detective at the center, or that Star Wars, Mad Max, and The Matrix are all the same because they all follow the hero's journey, or that The Sun Also Rises is the same as Tender is the Night because the both focus on disaffected expatriates in post-war Europe, or that, well, any big old adventure story is the same as any big old adventure story (The Three Musketeers, Gargantua and Pantagruel, Jacques the Fatalist, Count of Monte Cristo, Don Quixote, or hell even Candide).

    In other words, it's an entirely superficial and shallow assessment. Saying so reduces any work to its basest components and renders it lifeless. McMurty goes places in Lonesome Dove that Tolkien never dreamed of (and to be fair they weren't places JRR was interested in going).

    If you read everything through that smudgy genre-filled lens, eventually it'll come back and bite you on the ass. This is one of those times.

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    Everything is connected. That's how I view things. I'm a huge proponent of the monomyth, and it is especially true in works of genre fiction.

    All fiction is fantasy.

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    Anyhow, picked this up yesterday at Borders.



    This will probably be the last book I ever buy at a Borders. That's a little sad.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Everything is connected. That's how I view things. I'm a huge proponent of the monomyth, and it is especially true in works of genre fiction.

    All fiction is fantasy.
    Given your posts in other places, this kind of rigid and limited thinking is striking.

    "All fiction is fantasy" is so broad as to be meaningless, and also ignores that not all stories are based around Campbell's idea of the monomyth, not even in genre fiction.

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    No story is based (well I guess some are in a more post-modern way: Hiero's Journey, Snowcrash, etc...)around Campbell's idea of the monomyth; Campbell simply pointed out similarities in mythology that he observed. I do the same. For me, reading is all about connecting the dots. It's something I've always done - this is like this, which is like that, which is also a lot like this, and that is similar to this....and so on. It's how I explore fiction, discover new authors and books, and enjoy the hobby. I am constantly tracking lines through works of fiction.

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    Half way through LD, and it continues to be awesome. I'm taking my time with it, and really enjoying every page, every passage, and each scene. The drama and tension build slowly, and the characters are given room to grow. I love spending time with them.

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    Just learned that Penguin is releasing...



    I thought they did a fantastic job assembling Lovecraft's works, and this book not only carries similar notes from weird tale scholar S. T. Joshi, it also carries a whip-smart introduction from Guillermo Del Toro.

    Also, I just love the simple elegance of Penguin paperbacks.

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    Ooo...very cool.

    When's it being released, DaMU?
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Ooo...very cool.

    When's it being released, DaMU?
    I just checked the Canada site, and it said September 27th, so it may already be in stores.

    It doesn't have "The Great God Pan," though.

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    :lol:

    It doesn't have "The Great God Pan", yet the cover is a big image of Pan?
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    :lol:

    It doesn't have "The Great God Pan", yet the cover is a big image of Pan?
    Well you know. It's Penguin's equivalent of giving Keira Knightley boobs on a movie poster.

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    Machen definitely deserves wider recognition.

    I'm pretty sure that Joshi dislikes The Great God Pan, and he and I rarely see eye-to-eye on anything. At the very least he doesn't think it is as good as its reputation suggests.

    I, on the other hand, think it is a masterpiece. I've read about 1/2 of Machen's material, and it's my personal favorite.

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    Two duds right in a row (Sleepwalker and Kwaidan)....

    Now on to something that won't be duddy, I hope.

    Little, Big, by John Crowley.

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    Little, Big
    is pretty good so far. It's entirely dream-like and surreal, pastoral and glacially paced. It really does feel like glimpsing another world through a cloudy mirror. I can see why so many authors consider it an unappreciated masterpiece. It's got that robust vibe to it like Gormenghast or The Worm Ouroboros, two books that Little, Big has inspired me to read soon.

    If you're looking for a romantic fairy tale to read, and want something dense and challenging, check this out. I hope it holds my interest for all 600 pages - that's my only worry.

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    Took me nearly a year, but I finally read all of The King in Yellow.

    Excellent stuff. The collection begins with a run of supernatural tales, but things shift into more traditional Romantic storytelling halfway through. I was not expecting that at all, and it took some adjustment of expectations, since the first half keeps hinting about the eponymous "King in Yellow," which is an in-universe play that drives people mad. But throughout, Robert Chambers paints a vivid picture of turn-of-century France, and his prose is slyer than I expected. The best story here, "The Demoiselle d'Ys," combines his first-half supernaturalism and second-half love stories into an effective and affecting tale of tragic love unbound by time.

    Really glad I read this. I'm slowly but surely moving past Lovecraft, into his peers and influences. After Clark Ashton Smith and Robert Chambers, the next step is M. R. James.

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    "The Repairer of Reputations" is a masterpiece. Easily one of my all-time favorite weird tales.

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    This is one of those situations, like Spielberg making a new Indiana Jones movie, where I have no options.

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    It's going to be awesome. I cannot wait.

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    Finished 100 Hair-Raising Little Horror Stories. Very fun collection. A lot of oddballs and unexpected treats. May discuss more in-depth tonight. Recommended for fans of horror, but it also could work as a splendid primer for people who want to see the variety of the genre.

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    That has some Lansdale in it, right? Also, Wellman?

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    That has some Lansdale in it, right? Also, Wellman?
    It has a Lansdale in it, yes. I'm not sure about Wellman. I'm at work now - left the book at home.

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    11/22/63 is getting some great reviews. Can't wait for next week!

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    11/22/63 is in my hot little hands. It smells particularly good.

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