Random Thoughts

**Dead & Messed Up** · 10-01-2009, 01:06 AM

Quoting Barty (view post)

If the victim doesn't even want him prosecuted this case should be done with.

A lot of murder victims aren't complaining about their killers.

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**number8** · 10-01-2009, 01:56 AM

Neither are domestic abuse victims, really.

**Ezee E** · 10-01-2009, 02:17 AM

Exactly. I see it as being a runaway more than statuatory rape.

**Spun Lepton** · 10-01-2009, 02:36 AM

The obvious answer is to cut off Polanski's toolkit and put it behind bars.

**B-side** · 10-01-2009, 06:23 AM

The notion of letting him go is strange to me. Who cares if the victim wants it to be over with? What does that have to do with the justice system? He committed statutory rape after drugging a 13 year old girl. He hasn't been punished. He committed ANOTHER crime to escape the other one. How is this even being debated? Is Polanski somehow above the law?

**lovejuice** · 10-01-2009, 06:27 AM

Quoting Brightside (view post)

The notion of letting him go is strange to me. Who cares if the victim wants it to be over with? What does that have to do with the justice system? He committed statutory rape after drugging a 13 year old girl. He hasn't been punished. He committed ANOTHER crime to escape the other one. How is this even being debated? Is Polanski somehow above the law?

no, but he is a good friend of this guy.

**number8** · 10-01-2009, 08:40 AM

Obviously, the answer is to abolish statutory laws.

**Justin** · 10-01-2009, 12:33 PM

This is why computers were made.

**lovejuice** · 10-01-2009, 12:51 PM

Quoting Justin (view post)

This is why computers were made.

acceptable!

**Skitch** · 10-01-2009, 01:22 PM

Well, theres some good ole fashioned nightmare fuel.

**Philosophe_rouge** · 10-01-2009, 04:05 PM

Quoting Brightside (view post)

The notion of letting him go is strange to me. Who cares if the victim wants it to be over with? What does that have to do with the justice system? He committed statutory rape after drugging a 13 year old girl. He hasn't been punished. He committed ANOTHER crime to escape the other one. How is this even being debated? Is Polanski somehow above the law?

Well, victim statements and consideration for their suffering is a huge part of the justice system, as it should be. That doesn't necessarily mean that Polanski should go free, he did a terrible thing, but to ignore what the victim wants is also in a way a miscarriage of justice. Many factors come into play, and as terrible as the whole thing is, it is still not cut and dry, especially with so much time having past.

As for Polanski escaping the law, he was mislead, and instead of handling it legally through the court systems he fled. He made a very poor decision, and I do think he deserves jail time for that. Looking at Polanski's life leading up to that point, it is no surprise that he did, he had his reasons for distrusting authoritative figures, and the judicial system. Though, again, it does not necessarily alleviate the fact that he really made a mockery of justice.

**Adam** · 10-01-2009, 04:40 PM

Of course, it's very common in cases of abuse for victims to blame themselves and absolve the abuser. That doesn't mean the abuser is innocent, though, it's just a normal psychological response of a person who's been abused. I don't know a lot about the actual "event," but from what I understand the gist is she was at this wild party at Nicholson's house and Polanski took her to a private area. He gave her booze and a quaalude and then had anal sex with her. Obviously to be at like this debauched Hollywood party she probably wasn't an honors student or anything, but she was still only 13. At this point, it really doesn't matter whether she wants it all to be over with. It could've been over with a long time ago if Polanski just took his medicine to begin with

**megladon8** · 10-01-2009, 05:00 PM

This is the second time Brightside has stated Polanski drugged the girl. It's also the first time I've ever heard of this.

Is this even true?

**Adam** · 10-01-2009, 05:09 PM

He gave her alcohol and a quaalude

**Spinal** · 10-01-2009, 05:09 PM

Quoting Adam (view post)

He gave her alcohol and a quaalude

Link.

**megladon8** · 10-01-2009, 05:10 PM

Quoting Adam (view post)

He gave her alcohol and a quaalude

OK but is it a fact, or is this just alleged after 30 years of the media rumor mill spinning the story?

**Spinal** · 10-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Quoting megladon8 (view post)

OK but is it a fact, or is this just alleged after 30 years of the media rumor mill spinning the story?

Part of the court testimony.

**Dead & Messed Up** · 10-01-2009, 06:23 PM

Today's one of those days where life's too big and I'm too small.

**Dukefrukem** · 10-01-2009, 06:34 PM

Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)

Today's one of those days where life's too big and I'm too small.

agreed dead. so agree...

**megladon8** · 10-01-2009, 07:16 PM

I had a maddening conversation today with a female friend who has begun taking a course in Feminist Studies as an elective for her uni. degree, and decided that man-hating is a way of "evening out the playing field" after hundreds of years of inequality.

Ugh...

**Ivan Drago** · 10-01-2009, 07:26 PM

Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)

Today's one of those days where life's too big and I'm too small.

Welcome to the fucking club.

**bac0n** · 10-01-2009, 07:38 PM

Quoting megladon8 (view post)

I had a maddening conversation today with a female friend who has begun taking a course in Feminist Studies as an elective for her uni. degree, and decided that man-hating is a way of "evening out the playing field" after hundreds of years of inequality.

Ugh...

Wow. I didn't know my ex-girlfriend moved to Canada!

**number8** · 10-01-2009, 07:45 PM

You can always come back with, "But you're white, and you have hundreds of years of inequalities to make up for. So karmically, it evens out, really. How about a sandwich?"

**Dead & Messed Up** · 10-01-2009, 08:11 PM

Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)

Today's one of those days where life's too big and I'm too small.

And God, prankster that he is, saw fit to reward this insight with broken brake lights.

**megladon8** · 10-01-2009, 08:19 PM

Quoting Amnesiac (view post)

Hm. What school does she go to? I'm assuming this is probably an opinion that she came to on her own and that it's not like some professor insidiously inculcated her with this view.

Oh no, it certainly wasn't the teacher.

I know the program of which she was speaking, and it's actually quite an interesting look at history and doesn't have even a smidgeon of "girl power! let's hate men!" in it.

It's just how she twisted it in her own head.

It was getting very aggravating because everything I said she would somehow twist to make it sound like I was being sexist, even if it was a totally innocent statement with no gender implications at all.

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