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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    I don't completely understand it myself, but he promised to stay with a publicly funded campaign and has now broken that promise. In a nutshell, that will be exposed to people as him being a liar.
    That's silly. If you receive new information and decide to alter your strategy based on those facts, that's just sound judgment. It's what normal human beings do every day of their lives.

    We already have a president who sticks steadfastly to his 'principles' regardless of what happens. It kind of makes you look foolish.
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    It didn't take long to spark a reaction.

    UPDATE: McCain campaign communications director Jill Hazelbaker emails: “Today, Barack Obama has revealed himself to be just another typical politician who will do and say whatever is most expedient for Barack Obama. The true test of a candidate for President is whether he will stand on principle and keep his word to the American people. Barack Obama has failed that test today, and his reversal of his promise to participate in the public finance system undermines his call for a new type of politics. Barack Obama is now the first presidential candidate since Watergate to run a campaign entirely on private funds. This decision will have far-reaching and extraordinary consequences that will weaken and undermine the public financing system.”
    It obviously works. Look at the amusing comments on the blog that Benny posted.

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    I like how they throw the word Watergate in there even though it doesn't really have anything to do with the issue.
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    Today, Jill Hazelbaker has revealed herself to be just another typical campaign communications director who will do and say whatever is most expedient for John McCain, &c., &c., &c.

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    Today, Sycophant has revealed himself to be just another typical internet poster who will do and say whatever is most expedient for Sycophant.

    Hey, this is fun!
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    I don't understand why I should care about this.
    I think this quote from 2008central.net sums it up best.

    "My issue isn’t with Obama refusing to take public funds. Rather, my issue is with Obama spending most of 2007 arguing in favor of the public financing system and promising to support it should he become the party’s nominee, only to disregard those previous statements when he actually became the party’s nominee.

    Further, I think it is a political miscalculation for the campaign to assume that people will not care about Obama’s changed position on the issue. Here’s why: The Obama campaign is based largely on the promise of change, on doing things differently, on real and tangible results. Yet, when given the opportunity to change things now (like the public financing system or engaging the GOP nominee in several joint campaign events), the Obama campaign consistently comes up with excuses on why that change isn’t proper at the moment. Obviously, these kinds of moves are not going to hurt Obama with current supporters; however, it may hurt him with independents and Republicans that want to believe in him, but see these kinds of isuses (albeit small in the grand scheme of things) as signals that Obama may not deliver on the promises of his campaign. This could very well be a problem for the Obama campaign and they should be ever mindful of it."
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    I like how they throw the word Watergate in there even though it doesn't really have anything to do with the issue.
    They made a number of campaign finance reform changes after 1974. That's where the Watergate reference is coming from.
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    Barack Hussein Obama-yo-mama, 1/2 Muslim, 1/2 infidel, gets called out on the carpet by Evangelicals for his "attack" on religion.

    Click here
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    A thumbs-down from Dobson is a sign of quality in my book.
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    Do you think it requires some sort of jagged oral appliance to write an article like that about James Dobson and keep your tongue out of your cheek?

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    Quote Quoting bac0n (view post)
    A thumbs-down from Dobson is a sign of quality in my book.
    I really hate that man. And I can't stand the evangelicals. I like to think that they are the modern day version of the holy men who pretty much attacked Jesus on a regular basis (I can't remember what they're called). The self-righteous are usually the ones who end up getting what's really coming to them anyways.
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    Obama and his new plan to help the immigration issue..."Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English, they will learn English. You need to make sure your child can speak Spanish."


    Please tell me this was taken out of context.
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    NYT article on that quote.

    The quote with more context:
    Quote Quoting Barack Obama
    "I don't understand when people are going around saying, 'We need to have English only.' They want to pass a law 'We want English only.' Now I agree that immigrants should learn English. I agree with that. But understand this. Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English. They'll learn English. You need to make sure your child can speak Spanish. You should be thinking about how can your child become bilingual. We should have every child speaking more than one language. It's embarrassing when Europeans come over here, they all speak English, they speak French, they speak German. And then we go over to Europe and all we can say is merci beaucoup, right?"

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    NYT article on that quote.

    The quote with more context:
    It's all part of his master plan to take this country away from its roots.

    "Para Espanol, press numero uno"




    (joking)

    Thanks for the clarification.
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    Chinese (probably Mandarin) and Spanish should be taught along side English from day one.

    If I ever have kids, they will learn all three.

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    Quote Quoting Daniel Davis (view post)
    Chinese (probably Mandarin) and Spanish should be taught along side English from day one.

    If I ever have kids, they will learn all three.
    Obama would prefer they learn Farsi, thank you.
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    I keep meaning to pick up at least enough Spanish to be functional in the present tense. Actually picked up some Pimsleur stuff a while back, but realized it was European Spain Spanish, and decided not to proceed with it.

    These days, it only makes sense to learn at least a little.

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    I am going to order the Pimsleur Mandarin program and look into taking a class or two at the city college.

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    Quote Quoting Benny Profane (view post)
    Obama would prefer they learn Farsi, thank you.
    First I need to learn Pinko Commie, then I was thinking of learning Terroristian.

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    I am going to order the Pimsleur Mandarin program and look into taking a class or two at the city college.
    Tried the Pimsleur Cantonese class once. Realized I was pretty much tone deaf. Gave up.

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    Tried the Pimsleur Cantonese class once. Realized I was pretty much tone deaf. Gave up.
    I'm pretty much a genius, so I expect to be speaking Mandarin within the first week of instruction.

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    Do you know what's irritating? Stereotypical nonsense Chinese in popular culture doesn't really sound much like any dialect I'm familiar with.

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    My kid is learning Spanish at school. Don't think that's too crazy.
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