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    looking forward to this but the two movie idea is kind of a bummer. make a four hour movie with an intermission. or do the miniseries thing like they do in europe. two movies is silly. it was especially silly for kill bill as neither movie works as well as the entire thing watched front to back.

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    Tarantino has finished his script for Inglorious Bastards and sent it to a couple websites.

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    Quentin Tarantino has just gone out with his long-anticipated script Inglorious Bastards about World War II.

    I scored the awesome script and took a look. ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT TARANTINO spells Bastards with an E as in Basterds.

    Here is a preview of Tarnatino’s kickassery!

    My name is Lt. Aldo Raine, and I’m putting together a special team. And I need me eight soldiers. Eight – Jewish – American – Soldiers. Now y’all might have heard rumors about the armada happening soon. Well, we’ll be leavin a little earlier. We’re gonna be dropped into France, dressed as civilians. And once we’re in enemy territory, as a bushwackin’ guerilla army, we’re gonna be doin one thing, and thing only, Killin Nazi’s. The members of the Nationalist Socialist Party, have conquered Europe through murder, torture, intimidation, and terror. And that’s exactly what we’re gonna do to them. Now I don’t know about y’all. But I sure as hell, didn’t come down from the goddamn smoky mountains, cross five thousand miles of water, fight my way through half Sicily, and then jump out of a fuckin air-o-plane, to teach the Nazi’s lessons in humanity. Nazi ain’t got no humanity. There the foot soldiers of a Jew hatin, mass murderin manic, and they need to be destroyed. That’s why any and every son-of-a-bitch we find wearin a Nazi uniform, there gonna die. We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty, they will know who we are. They will find the evidence of our cruelty, in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us. And the German will not be able to help themselves from imagining the cruelty their brothers endured at our hands, and our boot heals, and the edge of our knives. And the Germans, will be sickened by us. And the Germans, will talk about us. And the Germans, will fear us. And when the Germans close their eyes at night, and their subconscious tortures them for the evil they’ve done, it will be with thoughts of us, that it tortures them with. But I got a word of warning to all would be warriors. When you join my command, you take on debit. A debit you owe me, personally. Every man under my command, owes me, one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y’all will git me, one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred Nazi’s or you will die trying.

    -Lt. Aldo Raine aka Aldo the Apache


    That folks is pretty much the jist of what Tarantino's masterpiece is about. Per Seth Rogen, Jews got laid because of Eric Bana in Munich. If that is the case, then Jews are going to be having 70’s era Hugh Hefner style orgies because of the eight badasses of Tarantino’s INGLORIOUS BASTERDS! The Basterds are not in the prisoner takin business. The Basterds are in the killin Nazi business. And cousin business is boomin according to Lt. Aldo. The role of Lt. Aldo has been offered to Brad Pitt who would be on some serious crack if he passes on this.

    The above monologue was taken from the opening of the 2nd chapter of 5 titled: Inglorious Basterds – my favorite chapter. Don’t get me wrong, Chapter One: Once Upon a Time … Nazi Occupied France , Chapter Three: German Night in Paris, Chapter Four: Operation Kino, Chapter Five: Revenge of the Giant Face are very solidly written. Chapter 5 is a nailbiter.

    If you took the bad guy swagger of RESERVOIR DOGS, the uber coolness and structure of PULP FICTION, throw in the revenge angle of KILL BILL, set it in World War II – you get INGLORIOUS BASTERDS.

    My favorite basterd? SGT. Donny Donowitz aka THE BEAR JEW. He bashes in German soldier’s skulls with a baseball bat. According to the German legend, The Bear Jew is a Golem. An avenging Jew angel, conjured up by a vengeful rabbi, to smite the Aryans!

    Where there are good guys, there are bad guys and the main bad guy of this 165 page epic is COL. HANS LANDA aka THE JEW HUNTER. An evil fucker and a delicious role for someone like Tim Roth.

    Plot-wise, what is INGLORIOUS BASTERDS about?

    The bastards have to take part in OPERATION KINO, go behind enemy lines and bomb a movie theater in Nazi occupied France which is premiering Goebble’s (Hitler’s right hand man) latest German propaganda war film. A French Jewish teenager named SHOSANNA (her family is massacred by Col Landa in Chapter 1), flees to Paris, where she winds up running the movie theater that the bastards have to bomb.

    Shosanna has her own plans for the German hierarchy on premiere night.

    Hands down, the script was the most enjoyable read of the year for me so far. Again, a masterpiece.

    Killer dialogue, excellent execution, and master craftsmanship by Tarantino.

    The script is supposed to go into production this October to premiere in Cannes next May and I am eager as hell to see the finished product. Trust me folks, waiting all these years for Tarantino to be done with

    INGLORIOUS BASTERDS was worth the wait.

    HASTA EL PROXIMO CAPITULO…
    The rumors are that filming will start in October. ritch:

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    Has Tarantino been reading Blood Meridian or something? Scalps, wtf?

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    Two movies, one movie. I don't care. This is massive cause for celebration!!!!

    The cast is going to be glorious!

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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    The cast is going to be glorious!
    More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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    Quote Quoting Winston* (view post)
    More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    Quote Quoting Winston* (view post)
    More like INglorious!!! Hahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Heh indeed. I was going to put something after that sentence like "no pun intended" or some other shit.

    I'm hoping Tarantino will cast a bunch of has-beens.
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    Heh indeed. I was going to put something after that sentence like "no pun intended" or some other shit.

    I'm hoping Tarantino will cast a bunch of has-beens.
    Brad Pitt, Stallone, Sandler, and the Schwarz has-beens enough for you?

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Brad Pitt, Stallone, Sandler, and the Schwarz has-beens enough for you?
    I've also read the name Pitt yesterday and Sandler was announced years ago if I recall, but Arnie and Stallone?!
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    I am totally stoked.

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    I envy and detest Tarantino for one specific thing. He's one of the top screenwriters in Hollywood, but he doesn't know proper screenplay formatting or even spelling and grammar. Any wannabe writer reading his scripts would have the impression that neither of those things matter, only your dialogue and story. Which is... ugh. I get a headache just thinking about it.
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    I envy and detest Tarantino for one specific thing. He's one of the top screenwriters in Hollywood, but he doesn't know proper screenplay formatting or even spelling and grammar. Any wannabe writer reading his scripts would have the impression that neither of those things matter, only your dialogue and story. Which is... ugh. I get a headache just thinking about it.
    One particularly weird thing he does in screenplays (at least in Jackie Brown's) is describing the entire past life and even the musical taste of a character, even when it has no relevance and it's not mentioned in the actual movie.

    Usually I hate that - when writers put in the script any stuff that the images are unable to show.

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    The Pursuit of the Happyness by the Inglorious Basterds.

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    I don't even think his dialogue is all that great.

    Sure, Pulp Fiction is a modern masterpiece...but his dialogue worked there, due to the film's subject matter and style.

    Every other movie he's done involves him jacking off in our face, telling us how much he loves obscure '70s movies.

    Yes, I know you've seen everything by Herschell Gordon Lewis, now will you get on with telling the actual story.
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    I saw the original Inglorious Basterds, by the way. A very fun actioner with lots of casualties and tense situations. From start to finish it's all shootin' and screamin'. I'm guessing the plot of the movie only plays a very small part in Tarantino's remake if it's that long. The original is barely 80 minutes.

    Oh, and Fred Williamson is a very cool guy.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Every other movie he's done involves him jacking off in our face, telling us how much he loves obscure '70s movies.

    Yes, I know you've seen everything by Herschell Gordon Lewis, now will you get on with telling the actual story.
    I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.

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    I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.

    Because the whole point of the film was that it was a pop culture celebration, a literal piece of pulp fiction where the characters exist in movie land and seem to be aware of their, well, pulp existence.

    All of his other films are supposed to be fairly straight-forward story telling, but his self conscious, self referential dialogue comes across cocky and without any emotion or depth.
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    I really really really don't get how Pulp Fiction is immune to these criticisms.
    Simple: because it works as a film in other ways. Homage, references and being movie-movie is neither a mark of shame nor a mark of quality, but merely shading around a film that is either good or not, based on other, more important, factors.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Simple: because it works as a film in other ways. Homage, references and being movie-movie is neither a mark of shame nor a mark of quality, but merely shading around a film that is either good or not, based on other, more important, factors.
    I suppose my point is that I do not get how Pulp Fiction is like this, but Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, and Death Proof are not. Kill Bill and Death Proof are more explicitly reference-heavy, but Jackie Brown has about as much in common with blaxploitation as Pulp Fiction does with A Band Apart. And even KB and DP take pains to create their own world and style, I'd say, all being very recognizable Tarantino worlds.

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    Fair enough. My point was more that when we dislike a film, we try to latch on to everything as definitive proof that it's crap, from acting to dialogue to an overreliance on pop references. However, this final component, in my mind, neither good nor bad - what people are trying to express, I think, is a dissatisfaction with the depth and emotional content of the film, and the criticism of this surface layer of homage et al becomes a handy stand-in, without actually ever being the problem.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Because the whole point of the film was that it was a pop culture celebration, a literal piece of pulp fiction where the characters exist in movie land and seem to be aware of their, well, pulp existence.
    ????

    And his other movies aren't?!! Kill Bill is particularly far more self-referential than Pulp Fiction, to the point where Bill repeatedly acknowledge the fact that they are living a Shaw Bros movie. That movie has airplanes with katana holders on the seats, for god's sake.

    iosos is right, Tarantino doesn't really mimic anyone's style in his movies as much as he follows his own (and what that is is most concretely defined in Reservoir Dogs, I think) and then have his characters behave like they know they're pulp characters. Sam Jackson in Jackie Brown is practically a pimp cane away from being a blaxpoitation stereotype, and in Death Proof that thrilling car sequence wouldn't even happen if Zoe Bell doesn't realize that she's indestructible and get on the hood of the car on her own will. That isn't how slashers generally work. It's far from straightforward storytelling.
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    Someone tell me how Death Proof is reference heavy. Vanishing Point and Mike's history = character development. Retro opening credits = why not?

    Quote Quoting iosos
    but Jackie Brown has about as much in common with blaxploitation as Pulp Fiction does with A Band Apart.
    Totally (although I'm being disingenuous, I have not seen A Band Apart...)

    And I find Death Proof just as, if not even more, creative and fresh as all the transgressive mayhem and violence-philosophy enmeshing of Pulp Fiction. As I should probably quit establishing, I think it is a good movie "in other ways" (not empty), so it's movie-movieness is an alright thing for me.

    But, to get to a point, I agree that I don't think any of his films should be set apart as not guilty of movie-movieness/cocky geekery indulgence.
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    This movie will beat out Dark Knight for most pages before its release.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    I don't even think his dialogue is all that great.
    No, it is not. And like Kevin Smith, who also writes some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard, his movies don't even look very good, with the exception of maybe a few sequences in Kill Bill, Vol. 1 and the opening scene of Pulp Fiction. So what are we left with? I don't know really. His movies can be enjoyable, and Reservoir Dogs is him at his best, and also most original. But I think he's not that talented of a director because he has no style of his own. He evokes styles from different cultures and other decades that he has no business evoking. In short, he's made it clear he's a movie buff and had worked at a video store for who cares how long, but has he really showed us he's that amazing of a director?

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    Quote Quoting Bosco B Thug (view post)
    Someone tell me how Death Proof is reference heavy. Vanishing Point and Mike's history = character development. Retro opening credits = why not?

    Totally (although I'm being disingenuous, I have not seen A Band Apart...)

    And I find Death Proof just as, if not even more, creative and fresh as all the transgressive mayhem and violence-philosophy enmeshing of Pulp Fiction. As I should probably quit establishing, I think it is a good movie "in other ways" (not empty), so it's movie-movieness is an alright thing for me.

    But, to get to a point, I agree that I don't think any of his films should be set apart as not guilty of movie-movieness/cocky geekery indulgence.
    There is no A Band Apart (except maybe a production company). It's either Bande Ã* part or Band of Outsiders.
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