Match Cut Madness 3: Best of the 00s

[Ezee E]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Memento vs. Wall-E

Would've never bet on Memento to make it to the Final Four, no matter what odds were offered.

[Skitch]

Would've never bet on Memento to make it to the Final Four, no matter what odds were offered.

Me either, but I'm cool with it.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (OUCH)
Memento vs. Wall-E (ouch)

Had to post now to slow Memento's roll.

[Gizmo]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (winner)
Memento vs. Wall-E (runner-up)

[quido8_5]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Memento vs. Wall-E

I don't know if there's any slowing of Memento's roll.

Edit: I think that this is the strongest and most interesting final four yet. They're all great films. I won't be disappointed no matter what the outcome.

Spirited Away: ****.5
Eternal Sunshine *****
Memento ****
Wall-E *****

[bac0n]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Memento vs. Wall-E

This one is like trying to choose your favorite flavor of ice cream.

[quido8_5]

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Memento vs. Wall-E

This one is like trying to choose your favorite flavor of ice cream.

Or choosing your favorite child... Except a whole lot harder.

[bac0n]

Oh, choosing my favorite kid is easy. I just go with the one who is less of a disappointment #fatheroftheyear.

[megladon8]

Spirited Away
Memento

[dreamdead]

Spirited Away
Memento

[Idioteque Stalker]

With fewer than 24 hours left to go, we have one really close match-up:

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

If you've been thinking about voting and have a preference in this match-ups (or the other), now would be a great time to vote by posting in this thread or sending me a PM.

[quido8_5]

With fewer than 24 hours left to go, we have one really close match-up:

Spirited Away vs. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

If you've been thinking about voting and have a preference in this match-ups (or the other), now would be a great time to vote by posting in this thread or sending me a PM.

Just a reminder that this is how Eternal Sunshine ends. All relationships walk this precipice between the ideal and the realistic. I don't know of another film that so succinctly captures this double bind than ESotSM. No arguing against Spirited Away. Just saying...

[Skitch]

Closer expressed real relationships better.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Closer expressed real relationships better.

Oof. Now that is a depressing notion.

[transmogrifier]

I think Skitch hit his head today.

[Skitch]

I think Skitch hit his head today.

I understand how that seems bananas. Imagine existing in a world where you find everyone around you so insane that what I said seems normal. I live in that world.

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[quido8_5]

Closer expressed real relationships better.

I was thinking more Audition.

[Dukefrukem]

Just a reminder that this is how Eternal Sunshine ends. All relationships walk this precipice between the ideal and the realistic. I don't know of another film that so succinctly captures this double bind than ESotSM. No arguing against Spirited Away. Just saying...

Yeh no one talks like that. This is why I hate that movie. No one psychoanalyzes themselves in a relationship to their partner.

[megladon8]

Realistic dialogue does not equal good dialogue. And unrealistic does not equal bad.

QT writes dialogue that is supremely unrealistic. But it is also one of his biggest strengths.

Also, I have had several conversations where I psychoanalyzed myself while speaking to Jen. Especially over the last 18 months.

[quido8_5]

Yeh no one talks like that. This is why I hate that movie. No one psychoanalyzes themselves in a relationship to their partner.

I'm not sure if I understand your argument. Most Bergman and Allen films do precisely this. Psychoanalysis is super fascinating on screen.

[baby doll]

Movie aren't real life. What matters isn't whether movie dialogue is realistic but whether it works dramatically.

I haven't seen Closer since it was in theaters but I remember being bored silly at the time by its mainstreaming of Neil Labute, the underlying rationale for which appears to be that Your Friends and Neighbors would be improved by making the characters less unpleasant, casting bigger stars, and setting the dialogue in ritzier settings. Unfortunately, despite these "enhancements," I didn't find any of the characters believable or interesting as dramatic characters.

The characters in Gondry's film scarcely seem to exist beyond their functions in the plot, some traits seem glued on (e.g., Winslet's whimsical hair colours), and some of the dialogue is a bit on-the-nose (Dunst reading the titular poem), but these ultimately strike me as fairly minor flaws since the film is more about plot than character.

[Skitch]

I haven't seen Closer since it was in theaters but I remember being bored silly at the time by its mainstreaming of Neil Labute, the underlying rationale for which appears to be that Your Friends and Neighbors would be improved by making the characters less unpleasant, casting bigger stars, and setting the dialogue in ritzier settings. Unfortunately, despite these "enhancements," I didn't find any of the characters believable or interesting as dramatic characters.

I know youre comparing the characters in Closer to a sci-fi movie, but to twist it a bit, the characters in Before Sunrise are unpleasant, big stars, with dialogue in a ritzy setting (whatever the fuck that means). That honestly might be the dumbest criticism I've ever heard lol

[Ezee E]

I remember REALLY not liking Eternal Sunshine last time I watched it. Maybe just not liking Jim Carrey's character at all is what I remember the most. I've never loved the dialog in that movie, it was always Gondry's direction that had me initially, and the creative use of special effects.

Whatever happened to him anyway?

[Skitch]

I loved ES first watch and I recently rewatched it and holy hell is it depressing. And the characters are dumb as hell. Its cute the first round, but round two its like, what the hell are you doing? Still a good movie, but damn.

[Idioteque Stalker]

You have to remember the context of that ending scene... They've been listening to tapes of themselves ripping the other to shreds. Anything OTHER than self-reflection in that moment is what would be unrealistic. Plus her "I'm not a concept" spiel is a rehearsed line she performs for all potential partners, so if there is a layer of artifice then that is to the script's credit by way of added irony since he's heard it many times before but doesn't remember and totally buys it.