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    Old (M Night Shyamalan)


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    Glad seeing your score, because someone I know who has seen Old said they really enjoyed it on a The Happening-camp level. Unless your three stars are for that reason as well lol
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    Mine is not. This is probably my favorite of his since Signs.

    That's not to say that there isn't M Night cringe in this. But the good definitely outweighs the bad. There's also much better actors in this which helps.

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    One random thought, and someone confirm this for me, has M Night ever had anything close to a sex scene in his movies?

    He seems almost scared to film a kissing scene, much less anything close to sex.

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    I think there was an implied one off screen in Unbreakable.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    One random thought, and someone confirm this for me, has M Night ever had anything close to a sex scene in his movies?

    He seems almost scared to film a kissing scene, much less anything close to sex.
    Similar to Tarantino in that regard. Minus the feet stuff, he doesn't go much for sex or nudity.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    One random thought, and someone confirm this for me, has M Night ever had anything close to a sex scene in his movies?

    He seems almost scared to film a kissing scene, much less anything close to sex.
    He had a long standing production deal with Disney and all his pictures were distributed by Buena Vista. So that may be why.

    (It fell apart when refused to make changes on "Lady in Water," and the studio kicked him to the curb. So that's also kinda sorta how we got "The Happening," "The Last Airbender," and "After Earth.")

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    (It fell apart when refused to make changes on "Lady in Water," and the studio kicked him to the curb. So that's also kinda sorta how we got "The Happening," "The Last Airbender," and "After Earth.")
    He must have taken it really hard.
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    If I were to revisit one of his movies that I disliked, it'd be Lady in the Water.

    I should see The Visit.

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    Shyamalan ranked:

    60-69
    1. Unbreakable
    2. Split

    50-59
    3. Signs
    4. The Sixth Sense

    40-49
    5. The Village
    6. Lady in the Water

    30-39
    7. The Visit
    8. The Happening

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    Wide Awake
    The Last Airbender
    After Earth
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    Old

    Not a fan.
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    Think i would swap 4 and 5, otherwise agreed.
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    Loved The Sixth Sense, but everything he's done after that has either annoyed me or left me feeling, "meh." Old is a streaming/rental at best for me.

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    Loved The Sixth Sense, but everything he's done after that has either annoyed me or left me feeling, "meh." Old is a streaming/rental at best for me.
    Ditto on the first part, but I'd also at least go to bat for Unbreakable as being good, despite the wet fart of a final note it went out on.

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    Thinking over E's comment about how this is Shyamalan's best since "Signs" and now I really want to see it.

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    Signs is my favorite from him.

    The water bit at the end is kinda silly, but all the other themes are well implemented and executed which is why I like rewatching it.

    It's hard to rewatch the Sixth Sense.

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    From my watch in the theater, I can tell you the exact scene in the Sixth Sense where I figured out what was up. It was about half way through. To this day no one believes me. For me Sixth Sense is to M. Night as Pulp Fiction is to QT.

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    Just like Braveheart, I had the 6th Sense spoiled for me before my first viewing. So I analyzed the shit out of it from the get go, and the finale was still a gut punch.
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    Unbreakable is objectively his best film and anyone who doesn't agree deserves to drown in diarrhea.
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    Just like Braveheart, I had the 6th Sense spoiled for me before my first viewing. So I analyzed the shit out of it from the get go, and the finale was still a gut punch.
    I knew there was a twist going in but not what it was; unfortunately, being primed to look for it, I knew what it was by the time the prologue ended.
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    Old is too much of a retread of what The Village did. Obnoxious scripting and idiotic motivations from all angles. If you like what Shyamalan does, watch it. I don't, so Old is a Nope!

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    Quote Quoting Scar (view post)
    Just like Braveheart, I had the 6th Sense spoiled for me before my first viewing. So I analyzed the shit out of it from the get go, and the finale was still a gut punch.
    Ditto, which is the sure sign of a greatly executed twist ending, which is why it's so much better than Unbreakable's "And then yadayadayada happened" textposition, which felt like Shyamalan typed it out in a rush because he was running late for lunch. I still feel it's a good movie on the whole, but it would've gone out so much stronger if it had had one last five minute scene where [
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    While I figured out Sixth Senses twist halfway through, I didn't see Unbreakables coming. I should have, but I didnt.

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    Don't think he's ever been able to recapture the emotional sincerity of that scene in the car between Osment and Collette.

    (I actually have a lot of love for Signs tho.)
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    This is a mixed bag, but it's never boring.

    Old is full of weird decisions like performances that take turns for the robotic, expository and strange dialogue and even stranger framing and camerawork. It’s also clear there wasn’t much for budget on the film considering there were moments where characters facially reacting to something horrifying and disgusting, but we never see it on-screen, deflating any tension created. That said, despite having an uneven tone, Old remains effective on both the levels of hilarious gonzo camp with its plot developments, and genuinely affecting human drama when characters openly and wistfully express regrets, secrets, emotions and acceptance as they stare their mortality in the face. The aging effects are well done, and the actors convey their varying degrees of deterioration in splendid fashion as the film progresses, with Alex Wolff and Vicky Krieps being the MVPs. Old is ultimately a mixed bag as far as execution goes, but worth seeing for those who like Shyamalan’s output and want to venture to a new, bizarre planet he’s created for his characters.
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    I was really into the De Palma level formalism + bonkers absolutely nutzo melodrama while we watch everything on the beach. Shyamalan really brings out the cinema toolkit in those scenes. There's rack focus, 360 pans, split diopter, entire shots deliberately out of focus, jarring slam cuts to black, and an entire sex scene (???) made up of shoulder blades. But man oh man, do I think this ending is garbage. I could hear the voice in my brain going "no Night no!" the further it digs in to the dumbass ending. Real frustrating since this had potential for a quiet, contemplative ending that could have been real lovely. Not to mention Mr. Twist Guy giving the ultimate twist by not having a twist at all. But no Night is back on his bullshit. Oh and on top of that the ending is weirdly[
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