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    Match Cut Madness 2: Best of the 90s

    Welcome to Match Cut Madness 2.0, a March Madness-style bracket tournament in which movies engage in 1v1 battles for glory and for shame. In Madness 1.0, MC chose its favorite films of the 80s (results: [
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    The Rules: Vote for one of two movies. If you haven't seen both movies, don't vote. If you have seen both movies, you must vote no matter how painful. The movie with the most votes moves to the next round, and the other is burned in a fire and can never be seen again by anyone. Eventually one movie will reign supreme.

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    New in Madness 2.0: The Play-In Round
    Have you ever looked at the list of movies in a Madness tournament, thought to yourself, "What is [inferior movie X] doing here when [superior movie Y] would be a better competitor," and wanted to do something about it? Well now you can -- with The Play-In Round!

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    Play-In Round TL;DR

    -- You may suggest movies to replace movies that are "on the bubble"
    -- The movie you suggest must have more views on Letterboxd than the movie you're replacing
    -- I choose which suggestions are accepted, and will vote for all accepted movies in round 1

    The 32 movies that are "on the bubble," and therefore able to be replaced: [
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    The 32 movies that are locked in, and therefore shouldn't be suggested as replacements: [
    ]

    These two lists combined make up the 64 movies in MC Madness. If you hate some of the movies which are "on the bubble," now's your chance to take them down!
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    nevermind... too many views.

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    nevermind... not enough views.. WTF

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    Okay.. Replace The Piano, with Army of Darkness

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    Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion 91k replaces Boyz N the Hood 86k
    Three Colors: Red 76k replaces The Piano 52k
    Contact 105k replaces Blue 100k
    Midnight Run (1988) - 9
    The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) - 8.5
    The Adventures of Robinhood (1938) - 8
    Sisters (1973) - 6.5
    Shin Godzilla (2016) - 7.5

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    The Piano over here like, "WTF did I do?"

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    Quote Quoting Peng (view post)
    Contact 105k replaces Blue 100k
    Seconded

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    Three Kings (64k) > Metropolitan
    Perfect Blue (157k) > Close-Up
    Scream (328k) > Starship Troopers

    Want to throw Home Alone in there, but not from one of those movies.

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    La Haine (130k) > Naked
    Speed (182k) > Safe

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Okay.. Replace The Piano, with Army of Darkness
    + horror/comedy is a unique genre
    - The Piano is part of an underrepresented group
    = I am currently undecided on this one. If fellow MCers chime in with support/dissent that may clear things up, or you can try choosing a different movie to replace. (EDIT: The Piano has already been replaced by Peng. You may choose another movie if you want.)


    Quote Quoting Peng
    Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion 91k replaces Boyz N the Hood 86k
    Three Colors: Red 76k replaces The Piano 52k
    Contact 105k replaces Blue 100k
    + Evangelion is animated
    - Evangelion is too niche (mainly for people who have completed the series), and Boyz N the Hood is part of an underrepresented group
    = Thank you, try again!

    + Three Colors: Red is non-English language
    - The Piano is part of an underrepresented group and Three Colors: Blue is already in this tournament (or is it?)
    = The Piano is out! Three Colors: Red is in!

    + Contact received support from another MCer (duke), you voted Red in
    - Three Colors: Blue is part of an underrepresented group (non-English language)
    = Three Colors: Blue is out! Contact is in!


    Quote Quoting Ezee E
    Three Kings (64k) > Metropolitan
    Perfect Blue (157k) > Close-Up
    Scream (328k) > Starship Troopers
    + Russel is a respected director and hardly anyone has seen Metropolitan
    - Whit Stillman is a respected director
    = Metropolitan is out! Three Kings is in!

    + Perfect Blue is animated and Satoshi Kon is a respected director
    - Close-Up is part of several underrepresented groups (non-English language documentary) and Kiarostami is a respected director
    = Thank you, try again!

    + Scream is iconic, a "nah duh" addition
    - Starship Troopers is a cult classic and Verhoeven is a respected director
    = Starship Troopers is out! Scream is in!

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    La Haine (130k) > Naked
    Speed (182k) > Safe
    + La Haine is non-English language
    - Mike Leigh is a respected director
    = Naked is out! La Haine is in!

    Ezee E has reached the maximum allowed replacements. Peng has one possible replacement left. Duke still has all three.

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    Now get The Piano back in!

    Nice thread idea on this!

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Now get The Piano back in!
    A movie that has been kicked out can be put back in, but a movie that has been put in can not be kicked out. So if someone wants to suggest The Piano replace something, they can do that; but La Haine, for instance, is locked in (as would be The Piano if someone were to get it back in).

    Anyways, I agree with you. But I remain impartial!

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    Trois couleurs: Bleu replaces Wild at Heart (or are we talking about Derek Jarman's Blue?)
    Naked replaces The Player
    The Piano replaces The Insider
    Just because...
    Speaking Directly: Some American Notes (Jon Jost, 1973) mild
    Dark Waters (Youssef Chahine, 1956) mild
    Over Here (Jon Jost, 2007) cold

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    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    Trois couleurs: Bleu replaces Wild at Heart (or are we talking about Derek Jarman's Blue?)
    Naked replaces The Player
    The Piano replaces The Insider
    + Three Colors: Blue is non-English Language, Wild at Heart is hard to track down
    - David Lynch is a respected director, Three Colors: Red is already in
    = Wild at Heart is out! Three Colors: Blue is in!

    Naked does not have more Letterboxd views than The Player. You can suggest another movie to replace if you'd like.

    + The Piano is part of an underrepresented group and isn't Heat enough representation for Michael Mann
    - Michael Mann is a respected filmmaker
    = The Insider is out! The Piano is in!

    EDIT: Not Jarman's Blue. At 7k views, that one is too obscure for a tournament like this. I will refer to Blue as Three Colors: Blue from now on as to avoid confusion. You have one possible replacement left.
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    I'm not sure if I'm understanding the rules, but could Basic Instinct (98k views) replace The Player?
    Just because...
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    Dark Waters (Youssef Chahine, 1956) mild
    Over Here (Jon Jost, 2007) cold

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    Quote Quoting Idioteque Stalker (view post)
    - Michael Mann was a respected filmmaker
    Fixed.
    Just because...
    Speaking Directly: Some American Notes (Jon Jost, 1973) mild
    Dark Waters (Youssef Chahine, 1956) mild
    Over Here (Jon Jost, 2007) cold

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    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    I'm not sure if I'm understanding the rules, but could Basic Instinct (98k views) replace The Player?
    + Paul Verhoeven is a respected filmmaker
    - Robert Altman is a respected filmmaker
    = The Player is out! Basic Instinct is in!

    (Unless you were asking hypothetically, but for now I will assume you were not.)


    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    Fixed.
    Haha, I couldn't think of anything else to say. If I were on the other side of this round, The Insider would've been one of the first movies I tried to take down.
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    Maybe we ought to change the title of this thread from "Best of the '90s" to "Most Popular Films of the '90s" since so many of the decade's best movies have too few Letterboxd views to even be in consideration:

    Alone. Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold, 1998): 1.2k
    Les Amants du Pont Neuf (Leos Carax, 1991): 16k
    The Apple (Samira Makhmalbaf, 1998): 2.4k
    La Cérémonie (Claude Chabrol, 1996): 12k
    Cyclo (Tran Anh Hung, 1995): 2.9k
    Drifting Clouds (Aki Kaurismäki, 1996): 4.5k
    Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control (Errol Morris, 1997): 3.7k
    From the Journals of Jean Seberg (Mark Rappaport, 1995): 430
    Irma Vep (Olivier Assayas, 1996): 16K
    Life, and Nothing More... (Abbas Kiarostami, 1992): 11k
    A Moment of Innocence (Mohsen Makhmalbaf, 1996): 9.7k
    New Rose Hotel (Abel Ferrara, 1998): 7.2k
    Nouvelle vague (Jean-Luc Godard, 1990): 1.8k
    El patrullero (Alex Cox, 1991): 795
    The Puppet Master (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1993): 2.5k
    Rosetta (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne, 1999): 13k
    Ruan Lingyu (Stanley Kwan, 1991): 2.1k
    Sátántangó (Béla Tarr, 1994): 17k
    Simple Men (Hal Hartley, 1992): 3k
    The Story of Qiu Jiu (Zhang Yimou, 1992): 2.4k
    The Suspended Step of the Stork (Theo Angelopoulos, 1991): 2.1k
    Tilaď (Idrissa Ouédraogo, 1990): 407
    To Sleep with Anger (Charles Burnett, 1990): 6.4k
    Underground (Emir Kusturica, 1995): 15k
    Vive l'amour (Tsai Ming-liang, 1994): 9.7k
    Just because...
    Speaking Directly: Some American Notes (Jon Jost, 1973) mild
    Dark Waters (Youssef Chahine, 1956) mild
    Over Here (Jon Jost, 2007) cold

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    Why does it say "Ripe for the Picking (200k Max)" when the highest it can be is 58K since 59K puts it in the next bracket? Anyway, I think I understand, replacing within the same bracket...

    Run Lola Run 102K > Glengarry Glen Ross 60k (foreign films under-represented)
    Lost Highway 108K > My Own Private Idaho 81k (shouldn't we have at least one Lynch film)
    The Nightmare Before Christmas 463K > Clueless 369k (animation under-represented)

    have not seen Boyz N the Hood. Surprised that last one wasn't on the original list.

    Yeah, it has to be based on popularity otherwise a movie that only ONE person has seen would automatically win - because only he/she could ever vote against it. I would have liked to have seen Careful and Trust on the list but I like my three replacements.

    edited: after reading ENTIRE original post.
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    Quote Quoting Yxklyx (view post)
    have not seen Boyz N the Hood.
    Having watched both films within the past few years, I'd much rather watch Singleton's film again than Lola rennt.
    Just because...
    Speaking Directly: Some American Notes (Jon Jost, 1973) mild
    Dark Waters (Youssef Chahine, 1956) mild
    Over Here (Jon Jost, 2007) cold

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    Quote Quoting Yxklyx (view post)
    Why does it say "Ripe for the Picking (200k Max)" when the highest it can be is 58K since 59K puts it in the next bracket? Anyway, I think I understand, replacing within the same bracket...
    Yeah, still working out how best to word it. Essentially, you may suggest a replacement for a movie in the "Ripe for the Picking" group as long the new movie has fewer than 200k views but more views than the movie it's replacing. So if you were to replace Safe, the new movie would have to have between 32k and 200k views. Or if you wanted to replace Office Space (which is in the "Give it your best shot" group) the new movie would have to have between 146k and 500k views.

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    Quote Quoting Yxklyx (view post)
    Run Lola Run 102K > Glengarry Glen Ross 60k (foreign films under-represented)
    Lost Highway 108K > My Own Private Idaho 81k (shouldn't we have at least one Lynch film)
    The Nightmare Before Christmas 463K > Clueless 369k (animation under-represented)
    Yxklyx nailed it.

    + Run Lola Run is non-English language
    - David Mamet is a respected screenwriter
    = Glengarry Glen Ross is out! Run Lola Run is in!

    + David Lynch is a respected director, Good Will Hunting could be voted in for GVS
    - My Own Private Idaho is part of an underrepresented group
    = My Own Private Idaho is out! Lost Highway is in!

    + The Nightmare Before Christmas is a classic animated musical
    - Clueless is part of an underrepresented group
    = Clueless is out! The Nightmare Before Christmas is in!

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    Just like in the NCAA Tourney, it could be "On the Bubble Movies."

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