WandaVision (Marvel)

[Ezee E]

I love Family Matters even if the show jumped the shark in the last season.

How'd they jump? I can't recall the seasons, but I feel like Urkel went through portals and stuff.

[StuSmallz]

I love Family Matters even if the show jumped the shark in the last season.

To be fair, there's a good reason for that:

[Wryan]

With E6, the amount of winking is getting a little high, especially with the introduction of [

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Pietro

]. Also, [

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now that it's clear Hayward wants Vision (or the re-created Mind Stone), why would he invite Monica into all this only to later expel her? He couldn't have presumed she would wind up inside, if he needed her there for some reason

]. Also, how many episodes are left? Four? Five? They are spending a lot of time dancing around the "mystery" when I'd rather them deal with Wanda's trauma. They had a moment where she sits down to talk about it, but it's cut off after all of ten seconds. They're too eager to cut away to the gimmick. Hopefully the last few episodes can be dedicated more fully to the core of the issues.

[Dukefrukem]

I don't think any of us saw Malcom in the Middle.

[Skitch]

I don't think [

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Vision is surviving this show. If they have any balls at all, he won't.

]

[Irish]

Nah, they gave themselves an out with Vision this past episode.

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If they intended Vision to remain dead, he would have dropped the second he hit the open air of the real world. Instead, they laid the groundwork for New Vision to replace Dead Vision in the continuity.

This is why Kat Dennings is on the show, to explain why New Vision is legit and (eventually) no longer dissipates outside of Wanda's influence.

]

[Wryan]

I thought Kat Dennings was on the show so they could riff on 2 Broke Girls.

jk marvel pls don't do that

[Ezee E]

Wonder if Vision could accidentally be reanimated like Quiksilver.

[Ezee E]

Going to guess next episode will be the last one to represent a sitcom.

[Spun Lepton]

I don't think [

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Vision is surviving this show. If they have any balls at all, he won't.

]

No way. [

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This whole series is setup to bring Vision back from the dead.

] I'm left wondering [

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if they're going to bring Quicksilver back, too.

] I don't think anybody, including the film makers, are fooling themselves into thinking these are high art.

[Ezee E]

No way. [

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This whole series is setup to bring Vision back from the dead.

] I'm left wondering [

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if they're going to bring Quicksilver back, too.

] I don't think anybody, including the film makers, are fooling themselves into thinking these are high art.

It's setting up the Doctor Strange movie plenty well with the rumors/casting of all previous Spider-Men, etc.

[Dukefrukem]

What's really weird that he still has the mind stone in this series.

[Skitch]

What's really weird that he still has the mind stone in this series.

...which is what leads me to believe hes entirely Wanda's creation.

[Ezee E]

...which is what leads me to believe hes entirely Wanda's creation.

His body got pulled from wherever it was at. It's just... recreated? Much like her own brother that she may have done the same?

[Skitch]

His body got pulled from wherever it was at. It's just... recreated? Much like her own brother that she may have done the same?

I'm speculating. I think I know as much as anyone else in the show....which is to say, nothing lol

[Dukefrukem]

His body got pulled from wherever it was at. It's just... recreated? Much like her own brother that she may have done the same?

No. For Pietro when he arrived at the door, they made a point for her to say " I didn't do this" or "that's not me" implying that Pietro showed up entirely on his own... probably the work of

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mephisto

]

There seems to be some devilish themes going on. And with Kathryn Hahn dressed up as a witch in the last episode, and her trying to find her necklace (when Vision woke her from her "spell") that she was wearing in every scene prior, kind of like Melisandre's necklace in Game of Thrones.

[Spun Lepton]

No. For Pietro when he arrived at the door, they made a point for her to say " I didn't do this" or "that's not me" implying that Pietro showed up entirely on his own... probably the work of

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mephisto

]

There seems to be some devilish themes going on. And with Kathryn Hahn dressed up as a witch in the last episode, and her trying to find her necklace (when Vision woke her from her "spell") that she was wearing in every scene prior, kind of like Melisandre's necklace in Game of Thrones.

More speculation about Agnes here:
https://nerdist.com/article/wandavision-agnes-theories/

[Ezee E]

No. For Pietro when he arrived at the door, they made a point for her to say " I didn't do this" or "that's not me" implying that Pietro showed up entirely on his own... probably the work of

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mephisto

]

There seems to be some devilish themes going on. And with Kathryn Hahn dressed up as a witch in the last episode, and her trying to find her necklace (when Vision woke her from her "spell") that she was wearing in every scene prior, kind of like Melisandre's necklace in Game of Thrones.

Ah.

Was Mephisto in one of the last Spider-Man movies? I haven't seen either Holland one.

From Spun's article, she could be a whole different character, but was also thinking that maybe she's a redesigned Mephisto in this city with that thought. But still seems like all the controlling is coming from Wanda, so not sure what the point would be right now.

[Dukefrukem]

Ah.

Was Mephisto in one of the last Spider-Man movies? I haven't seen either Holland one.

From Spun's article, she could be a whole different character, but was also thinking that maybe she's a redesigned Mephisto in this city with that thought. But still seems like all the controlling is coming from Wanda, so not sure what the point would be right now.

No. But he's a great villain to build a phase 4 mythology around (the Devil, Demons (extra-dimensional beings), vampires, Death). Especially since the MCU seems to be taking a more horror approach with Raimi on board with DR Strange (and rumors of a Nicholas Cage Ghost Rider reprisal. AND especially if Blade is part of the MCU now.

There may even be links to the Spidey-verse; Venom, Mobius, Kraven the Hunter...

All of these characters have links.

[Wryan]

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Agatha Harkness

] works pretty well.

[Skitch]

Hmmm....nope, didnt care about ep7.

[Peng]

[

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Agatha Harkness

] works pretty well.

Yup.

I already love Hahn as a performer, and getting to see her go ham with her own theme song was a treat.

[Spun Lepton]

I really enjoyed it. They answered two big questions. [

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Rambeau appears to be changing (or has changed) into Photon. And Agnes is indeed Harkness.

]

[Ezee E]

I think it's going to head in a direction that'll be a bit more atypical, but still maintain that this is one of the more original displays of grief that I've seen in movies, and it just happens to be in a Marvel storyline.

The villain theme song also kicks ass.

[Dukefrukem]

I really enjoyed it. They answered two big questions. [

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Rambeau appears to be changing (or has changed) into Photon. And Agnes is indeed Harkness.

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And introduced many more.

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1. That was Darkhold in the witch chamber of Harkness; Introducing black magic for the first time with links to Dr Strange and Ghost Rider, vampires (Blade??), among others.

2. The after credits scene confirmed that was not Pietro Maximoff as we know him, and also not the multi-verse Pietro Maximoff. (it's likely Mephisto teamed up with Harkness)

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