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    Best thing I've seen Scarjo acting off the top of my head...Match Point.
    Absolutely.

    Jojo is her kind of playing against type, which is why I liked her a lot in it.

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    I have seen Once Upon a Time... in America (it was alright). I want to see Pain and Glory and Parasite before they leave theatres (I'm planning to see the former tomorrow), although I'm not the biggest fan of either Almódovar or Bong, may see Les Misérables when it opens here, and I'll check out Marriage Story eventually. The rest are films I have little to no interest in seeing.
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    Portrait de la jeune fille en feu (Céline Sciamma, 2019) mild
    Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman, 1986) cold
    Till We Meet Again (Kawashima Yuzo, 1955) mild

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    Cinema, Censorship, and the State: The Writings of Nagisa Oshima, 1956-1978 by Oshima Nagisa


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    I don't really like ScarJo in Jojo Rabbit. Her accent is pretty bad and I think she's miscast. She's good in Marriage Story. Not Adam Driver good, but I won't gripe about her nomination good.

    Anyway ... I think OUATIH will get BP and 1917 will get BD. May as well engrave Roger Deakins' name on his Oscar at this point. Renee Zelwixncvjfhdjkfherweryger (sp?) will win best actress and Joaquin will win actor. Predictable. OUATIH will most likely win original screenplay, but this is a category where Parasite might have a shot. The Irishman will get best adapted. Thelma will win a well deserved Oscar for her editing on The Irishman. Tech awards will most likely go to 1917 but maybe a few bones will be thrown to Endgame? Animated will prolly be Toy Story 4 (well deserved ... I love it) but they could go against the mouse and Pixar with Missing Link. Brad and Laura Dern will win supporting, two actors I like in general but I'm perplexed by the love for these specific performances. I guess it's their time?
    Last edited by Pop Trash; 01-14-2020 at 04:21 AM.
    Ratings on a 1-10 scale for your pleasure:

    Uncut Gems - 6
    1917 - 7
    A Hidden Life - 10
    Little Women 2k19 - 7
    The Rise of Skywalker - 6
    Home Alone - 5
    Richard Jewell - 8
    Marriage Story - 8
    The Last Jedi - 9
    Knives Out - 6

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    Regardless of whether it has a chance of winning, does anybody else find the idea of giving an award to Once Upon a Time... for screenwriting utterly baffling? I can almost understand the mentality of Oscar voters who consider impersonations of famous dead people to be great acting and who think great editing means lots of cutting, but this Tarantino movie? For screenwriting? What's up with that? Did people look at this film, which is agreeably rambling but nonetheless a ramble, and think to themselves, "Any movie with this many words in it has to be well written"?
    Just because...
    Portrait de la jeune fille en feu (Céline Sciamma, 2019) mild
    Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman, 1986) cold
    Till We Meet Again (Kawashima Yuzo, 1955) mild

    The last book I read was...
    Cinema, Censorship, and the State: The Writings of Nagisa Oshima, 1956-1978 by Oshima Nagisa


    The (New) World

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    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    Regardless of whether it has a chance of winning, does anybody else find the idea of giving an award to Once Upon a Time... for screenwriting utterly baffling? I can almost understand the mentality of Oscar voters who consider impersonations of famous dead people to be great acting and who think great editing means lots of cutting, but this Tarantino movie? For screenwriting? What's up with that? Did people look at this film, which is agreeably rambling but nonetheless a ramble, and think to themselves, "Any movie with this many words in it has to be well written"?
    I think it's better directed than written but I rather like the structure. It's pretty weird to create a slack, rambling movie for at least 90 minutes that then culminates into the showdown that happens. The dialogue is mostly tasty ("We love Pussy." "Yes we do.") but this is the definition of specific, almost fetishistic (and sometimes literally fetishistic w/ all the feet shots) auteurism and that is everything to do with a detail driven director having his hand in every facet of production.
    Ratings on a 1-10 scale for your pleasure:

    Uncut Gems - 6
    1917 - 7
    A Hidden Life - 10
    Little Women 2k19 - 7
    The Rise of Skywalker - 6
    Home Alone - 5
    Richard Jewell - 8
    Marriage Story - 8
    The Last Jedi - 9
    Knives Out - 6

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    That's a fair point, especially when you have a script like Parasite which is so incredibly tight and every scene matters...

    I could have it wrong, maybe Bong wins Screenplay and Tarantino wins Direction.

    Little Women - *** 1/2
    Gretel & Hansel - **
    Color Out of Space - ***


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    Basically it'll be between 1917 and OUATIH for whatever categories they go head to head in. The actors are all pretty much chosen. The rest is whatever.
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    Quote Quoting Pop Trash (view post)
    I think it's better directed than written but I rather like the structure. It's pretty weird to create a slack, rambling movie for at least 90 minutes that then culminates into the showdown that happens. The dialogue is mostly tasty ("We love Pussy." "Yes we do.") but this is the definition of specific, almost fetishistic (and sometimes literally fetishistic w/ all the feet shots) auteurism and that is everything to do with a detail driven director having his hand in every facet of production.
    It's weird alright, but is it good? Or more precisely, is it good writing? Tarantino's script struck me as rather uneven, and when it's good it's hard to know who to give credit to: I thought Bruce Dern and Dakota Fanning managed to create a believably odd romantic couple in only a few minutes of screen time, but should the credit for that go to Tarantino's screenwriting or the resourcefulness of the actors in bringing the characters to life? Ultimately, it doesn't really matter (the result is what counts), but in the case of Margot Robbie's underwhelming performance as Sharon Tate, clearly the fault is entirely Tarantino's since the character as written is so thinly conceived Robbie can't do anything with it.

    As for Tarantino's obsession for period detail, it seems to me that the film's major structural weaknesses as storytelling is that the glut of arcane pop culture references tends to overwhelm any sense of narrative momentum.

    For the record, my picks for the best written US commercial releases of 2019 are Hong Sangsoo's Hotel by the River and Jafar Panahi's 3 Faces.
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    Just because...
    Portrait de la jeune fille en feu (Céline Sciamma, 2019) mild
    Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman, 1986) cold
    Till We Meet Again (Kawashima Yuzo, 1955) mild

    The last book I read was...
    Cinema, Censorship, and the State: The Writings of Nagisa Oshima, 1956-1978 by Oshima Nagisa


    The (New) World

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    Oscar's wanna win me back? Julie Strain in memorandum.
    What? Julie Strain is alive and well.

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    So no avengers end game but black panther last year? Would have been fine if end game got a best pic nom instead of Joker. Which I really liked too.
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    • Bad Boys for Life (Adil/Billal, 2020) ♦♦½ [-]
    • 1917 (Mendes, 2020) ♦♦♦½ [+]
    • Shrek (Adamson/Jenson, 2001) ♦½ [+]
    • Psycho (Hitchcock, 1960) ♦♦♦½ [-] -- rewatch
    • Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (Abrams, 2019) ♦♦ [+]
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    • 6 Underground (Bay, 2019) ♦½ [-]
    • Rebecca (Hitchcock, 1940) ♦♦♦ [-]
    • Knives Out (Johnson, 2019) ♦♦♦½ [-]

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    Bummer about Sandman and the Uncut Gems score. I also think the editing was fantastic in that film, but yeah The Academy is a fucking bore.
    Portrait of a Lady on Fire - 8.5
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    Little Women - 6.5
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    The Nightingale - 7.5
    Peterloo - 8
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    Uncut Gems - 9


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    There was no way in hell The Lighthouse was going to be nominated for any major awards. I am a bit surprised that neither Murphy nor Sandler was nominated, though.
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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    What? Julie Strain is alive and well.
    Apparently I was taken by a hoax. And my phone autocorrected to "memorandum". Brilliant.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Apparently I was taken by a hoax. And my phone autocorrected to "memorandum". Brilliant.

    *grabs towel to hitchhike out of the solar system*
    For some reason I now wanted to assure myself that Shannon Tweed was still alive. She is.
    MOVIES

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    • Parasite (Bong, 2019/KR) ♦♦♦½ [+]
    • Marriage Story (Baumbach, 2019) ♦♦♦♦
    • The Two Popes (Meirelles, 2019) ♦♦♦ [+]
    • Bad Boys for Life (Adil/Billal, 2020) ♦♦½ [-]
    • 1917 (Mendes, 2020) ♦♦♦½ [+]
    • Shrek (Adamson/Jenson, 2001) ♦½ [+]
    • Psycho (Hitchcock, 1960) ♦♦♦½ [-] -- rewatch
    • Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (Abrams, 2019) ♦♦ [+]
    • El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie (Gilligan, 2019) ♦♦♦ [-]
    • 6 Underground (Bay, 2019) ♦½ [-]
    • Rebecca (Hitchcock, 1940) ♦♦♦ [-]
    • Knives Out (Johnson, 2019) ♦♦♦½ [-]

    TV

    • Killing Eve (S2) ♦♦♦ [-]
    • Lost in Space (S2) ♦♦♦♦
    • Killing Eve (S1) ♦♦♦ [-]
    • True Detective (S3) ♦♦♦♦
    • The Mandalorian (S1) ♦♦½ [-]
    • Stranger Things (S3) ♦♦♦½ [+]

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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    For some reason I now wanted to assure myself that Shannon Tweed was still alive. She is.
    Literally the only two names I know from that universe. Thank you blurry 80s cable channels.

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    I will be rooting for the unlikely but not impossible Parasite BP win.

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    Literally the only two names I know from that universe. Thank you blurry 80s cable channels.
    Kari Wuhrer for the win.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Best thing I've seen Scarjo acting off the top of my head...Match Point.
    When was the last time you watched this movie? I’m curious because I watched it a month ago and it has aged horribly on all fronts.

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    It's been a while.

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    the screenplay debate is moot, as Greta Gerwig is virtually guaranteed that award.

    edit: oops nevermind, different categories
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    It's weird alright, but is it good? Or more precisely, is it good writing? Tarantino's script struck me as rather uneven, and when it's good it's hard to know who to give credit to: I thought Bruce Dern and Dakota Fanning managed to create a believably odd romantic couple in only a few minutes of screen time, but should the credit for that go to Tarantino's screenwriting or the resourcefulness of the actors in bringing the characters to life?
    what

    Ultimately, it doesn't really matter (the result is what counts), but in the case of Margot Robbie's underwhelming performance as Sharon Tate, clearly the fault is entirely Tarantino's since the character as written is so thinly conceived Robbie can't do anything with it.
    what what

    As for Tarantino's obsession for period detail, it seems to me that the film's major structural weaknesses as storytelling is that the glut of arcane pop culture references tends to overwhelm any sense of narrative momentum.
    what what what

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    Quote Quoting Zac Efron (view post)
    When was the last time you watched this movie? I’m curious because I watched it a month ago and it has aged horribly on all fronts.
    Probably 10+ years ago for me too.

    Certainly not high up on my list to rewatch, so it'll remain good in my head, lol.

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    Joker is this year's Green Book/Vice. Artless stories dressed up by comedy directors who play pretend auteurs with studio resources. This is not visionary work; it's painting by numbers. Phillips just happened to use edgier material as his template, but it's derivative and trying too hard to be "prestige" all the same.
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    Ehh. I get what point you're putting out there, but I don't think Joker is quite paint by numbers.

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    Quote Quoting DavidSeven (view post)
    Joker is this year's Green Book/Vice. Artless stories dressed up by comedy directors who play pretend auteurs with studio resources. This is not visionary work; it's painting by numbers. Phillips just happened to use edgier material as his template, but it's derivative and trying too hard to be "prestige" all the same.
    How is the story "artless?"

    I never saw Vice but Joker is leagues beyond the low middle brow dry biscuit of a picture that is Green Book.
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    1917 - 7
    A Hidden Life - 10
    Little Women 2k19 - 7
    The Rise of Skywalker - 6
    Home Alone - 5
    Richard Jewell - 8
    Marriage Story - 8
    The Last Jedi - 9
    Knives Out - 6

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