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Thread: Doctor Sleep (Flanagan)

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    King hates Kubrick Shining because plot changes.

    King loves Flanagan Doctor Sleep ignores plot changes.
    I looked up the book after seeing the movie and yeah they changed quite a bit. I feel the changes work however. I still haven't bothered to see the mini series since I rather like Kubrick's film. Need to read The Shining at some point and Doctor Sleep.
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    And as he lay there
    Playing games with his pain
    He felt his choice of jobs
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    He could have been a doctor
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    Instead he chose three stars
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    Biggest difference between The Shining book and film for me is the character Jack. In the book he is sympathetic. A good man with demons, preyed upon by the hotel which brings out the worst in him.

    In the movie Jack is kind of a prick right from the start. Resentment towards his wife and son is palpable in the car ride to the Overlook. It felt like the hotel didn't bring out the worst in him, so much as gave him permission to act out what he already kind of wanted to do.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    Hmm when phrased like that no wonder King didn't care for Kubrick's adaptation.
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    He felt his choice of jobs
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    He could have been a doctor
    In a soft easy chair
    Instead he chose three stars
    A territorial affair

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    What's most impressive about this movie is how Flanagan navigated this somehow being a sequel to the movie, but also an adaptation of the book.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    What's most impressive about this movie is how Flanagan navigated this somehow being a sequel to the movie, but also an adaptation of the book.
    Yeeeep. Both movie endings are completely different from the novels. Arguable better.

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    Watched this last night. The director's cut. Honestly, nothing at all felt superfluous here. I am not sure I will ever bother with the theatrical, outside of maybe morbid curiosity. The idea of more than 30 minutes being cut is like...how? From where?

    Sorry to repeat what so many have already said, but Flanagan's skill in adapting the book while also being a sequel to Kubrick's film is incredible. Needless to say, THIS is how you make a sequel to a 40 year old classic.

    Everyone is phenomenal in their roles. Kyleigh Curran is freaking fantastic. She didn't just hold her own against Ferguson and McGregor, she steals the show frequently. Magnificent child actor.

    The film is chilling from the start, the pacing perfect. The plot is propelled by the characters and their actions rather than the reverse (TL;DR it's written really well). Has a few solid emotional moments that don't feel hackneyed or manipulative.

    I've read criticisms that the film looks "cheap" like a TV show or Netflix movie. Honestly never got that feeling aside from the occasional bad CGI which was surely just budgetary constraint.

    The returns to the Overlook are chilling. So well executed. But the movie doesn't feel like a slavish sequel or recreation of the original film by Kubrick. It is its own beast and man, what a bite it has.

    I really can't say enough about how much I loved this.

    Mike Flanagan is a revelation in American on-screen horror.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    I watched theatrical and DC in the span of a month. I would be hard pressed to tell you what was added, and theres like 40 minutes. I agree, nothing felt like padding. It needed the extra time. Theatrical felt rushed, DC felt right.

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    Also shoutout to Cliff Curtis, who is one of those underrated "That guys."
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    And as he lay there
    Playing games with his pain
    He felt his choice of jobs
    Was such a mistake
    He could have been a doctor
    In a soft easy chair
    Instead he chose three stars
    A territorial affair

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    And as he lay there
    Playing games with his pain
    He felt his choice of jobs
    Was such a mistake
    He could have been a doctor
    In a soft easy chair
    Instead he chose three stars
    A territorial affair

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    Quote Quoting DFA1979 (view post)
    I felt the DC evened out a lot of pacing issues I had with the theatrical. DC for me on this one.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I felt the DC evened out a lot of pacing issues I had with the theatrical. DC for me on this one.
    That sounds good. This is one movie that could have been 3 hours at least.
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    And as he lay there
    Playing games with his pain
    He felt his choice of jobs
    Was such a mistake
    He could have been a doctor
    In a soft easy chair
    Instead he chose three stars
    A territorial affair

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