Attack-Free Unpopular Opinion Thread

[Skitch]

300 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Hate it all you want, but is it though? In the multitude of Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies, 300 ranks as one of the worst movies you've ever seen?

[Dukefrukem]

300 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Sucker Punch is worse.

[Skitch]

Sucker Punch is worse.

Agreed.

[transmogrifier]

Hate it all you want, but is it though? In the multitude of Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies, 300 ranks as one of the worst movies you've ever seen?

You'd be surprised at how well I avoid crap. I've tried to go down that "so-bad-it's-good" route because it seems fun in theory, but almost always, those type of movies just bore me to tears. Incompetence is not really that interesting to me. So "one of the worst movies I have ever seen" is a really, really small subset of "movies that are bad".

[transmogrifier]

Sucker Punch is worse.

They both suck, but 300 sucks much more.

[Skitch]

You'd be surprised at how well I avoid crap. I've tried to go down that "so-bad-it's-good" route because it seems fun in theory, but almost always, those type of movies just bore me to tears. Incompetence is not really that interesting to me. So "one of the worst movies I have ever seen" is a really, really small subset of "movies that are bad".

Fair enough, thanks for clarification.

[Irish]

Silly question, but why don't you guys just bail on stuff you don't like?

I no longer have the patience for bad movies. If I'm not engaged after 20 minutes or 40, I turn the damned thing off.

[Dukefrukem]

Silly question, but why don't you guys just bail on stuff you don't like?

I no longer have the patience for bad movies. If I'm not engaged after 20 minutes or 40, I turn the damned thing off.

For completionism. (probably not a word)

Also sometimes an ending can make a movie for me.

[Skitch]

Silly question, but why don't you guys just bail on stuff you don't like?

I no longer have the patience for bad movies. If I'm not engaged after 20 minutes or 40, I turn the damned thing off.

I absolutely do bail. Sometimes based solely on the font of the title credits.

But I have been witness to the worst films in history via MST3K, which is hilarious. I couldn't make it through any of those films without those guys.

[transmogrifier]

Silly question, but why don't you guys just bail on stuff you don't like?

I no longer have the patience for bad movies. If I'm not engaged after 20 minutes or 40, I turn the damned thing off.

Oh, I’ll definitely turn something off if I don’t like it.

[Irish]

Oh, I’ll definitely turn something off if I don’t like it.

So you liked "300" and "Sucker Punch then?

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Yeah, the crap that Redlettermedia watch on a regular basis is absolutely unwatchable without their comments.

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[Skitch]

After Midnight is one of the worst films I've ever seen in my entire life.

[baby doll]

Hate it all you want, but is it though? In the multitude of Mystery Science Theater 3000 movies, 300 ranks as one of the worst movies you've ever seen?

I've never understood this argument. It seems to imply a cinematic hierarchy of needs where basic technical competence in itself gets a film bumped up to the second order regardless of the purposes to which that technique is put to. But at the end of the day, boring is boring.

(For the record, I haven't seen 300.)

[Skitch]

I've never understood this argument. It seems to imply a cinematic hierarchy of needs where basic technical competence in itself gets a film bumped up to the second order regardless of the purposes to which that technique is put to. But at the end of the day, boring is boring.

(For the record, I haven't seen 300.)

Bear in mind this isn't coming from a place of defending 300. I have zero emotion towards anyone hating that movie.

Its odd to me that you don't understand my argument, but (even vaguely) rank movies. If you have an opinion that some movies are better than others, why is it unusual to see that some are the most blatant epic shit of all time? Everyone sets their own barometer. Trans told me his barometer. I now understand where hes coming from.

[Ivan Drago]

I unironically enjoy the Joel Schumacher Batman movies. After revisiting them in memoriam of Schumacher, while yes, their scripts are terrible, their execution is cartoonish and the movies are all over the place tonally, both Batman Forever and Batman and Robin move with a madcap, infectious energy, the casts do well with what they're given, Gotham looks awesome in its neon colors and grand set design, and the scores are bombastic, making every scene feel big, awe-inspiring and non-stop Fun. To say they feel made by an eight-year-old can be taken as a compliment in my opinion.

Also after Batman and Robin came out, I started writing my own comic books for fun in 1997-1998. I had no clue how to tell a good story, I just wanted to do what I thought was fun. Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were made with that same mentality. I've grown in spades as a storyteller well since then, but I wouldn't have had a starting line to begin from without those guilty pleasures. In that, Schumacher had a bigger impact on my life than I thought, and his death is hitting me harder upon that realization.

[Irish]

I unironically enjoy the Joel Schumacher Batman movies. After revisiting them in memoriam of Schumacher, while yes, their scripts are terrible, their execution is cartoonish and the movies are all over the place tonally, both Batman Forever and Batman and Robin move with a madcap, infectious energy, the casts do well with what they're given, Gotham looks awesome in its neon colors and grand set design, and the scores are bombastic, making every scene feel big, awe-inspiring and non-stop Fun. To say they feel made by an eight-year-old can be taken as a compliment in my opinion.

Also after Batman and Robin came out, I started writing my own comic books for fun in 1997-1998. I had no clue how to tell a good story, I just wanted to do what I thought was fun. Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were made with that same mentality. I've grown in spades as a storyteller well since then, but I wouldn't have had a starting line to begin from without those guilty pleasures. In that, Schumacher had a bigger impact on my life than I thought, and his death is hitting me harder upon that realization.

People usually say "cool story bro" with disdain and sarcasm, but this is actually a cool story.

I dig that you got so much out of those 2 films.

[Skitch]

I think Batman Forever might be the most comic-true version of Batman of those first four films. I'll never forget the year that came out, rolling around with my new license, blaring the soundtrack on cassette...

[baby doll]

Bear in mind this isn't coming from a place of defending 300. I have zero emotion towards anyone hating that movie.

Its odd to me that you don't understand my argument, but (even vaguely) rank movies. If you have an opinion that some movies are better than others, why is it unusual to see that some are the most blatant epic shit of all time? Everyone sets their own barometer. Trans told me his barometer. I now understand where hes coming from.

I agree that some movies are better (or at least more successful) than others, although I don't think all films are directly comparable. It might make sense to compare 300 with the schlocky sword-and-sandal films produced at CinecittÃ* in the 1960s, but (assuming that 300 is as bad as everyone says it is--and I have no reason to doubt that it is) isn't it worse to spend 200 million dollars making the best, most technically proficient Steve Reeves Hercules movie money can buy than to churn one out quickly for the exploitation market? Or to put it another way, would the Italian films have been more fun to watch if they had had top-grade special effects, production values, and synchronized sound but the same dopey scripts? I tend to doubt it. At least in my experience, expensive trash isn't necessarily more fun to watch than cheap trash.

[megladon8]

300 only cost 65 million.

But I agree with your point, to an extent.

I tend to find a lot of schlock a lot of fun.

[Ezee E]

I've probably walked out of less than ten movies in my life. Usually I'm in it to finish it. And that's where I've seen my worst movies lol.

[megladon8]

I don't think I'd walk out of a theatrical movie unless the length of the film was another deterrent.

And a movie has to be pretty damn terrible for me to turn it off at home.

[Philip J. Fry]

I watched the entirety of Men, Women and Children, football fucking included. I think that makes me a true completist.

[Ezee E]

I don't think I'd walk out of a theatrical movie unless the length of the film was another deterrent.

And a movie has to be pretty damn terrible for me to turn it off at home.

The length is a major part of it too. If I see that I have a whole hour plus to go... There's just other things that I'd rather do. Although I don't think I've ever walked out of an Alamo theater.

[Ivan Drago]

People usually say "cool story bro" with disdain and sarcasm, but this is actually a cool story.

I dig that you got so much out of those 2 films.

Thanks, man.

Also to this day, I still want Kiss From A Rose to be the song I dance to at my wedding.