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    Lessee...

    - The "Friday the 13th" movies are all hands down awful and --- their biggest sin --- boring as shit.

    - But then only if you watch them alone. Put another person in the room and the switch is flipped; they become sorta morbidly fascinating. One of the best theatrical experiences I had was seeing "Friday the 13th: Part III" with a full audience at a local rep house. (Also, to contradict myself: Part VI works for solo viewing because it's subversively funny next to the other entries in this bullshit series.)

    - In that vein, I really do not understand horror fans who have been anxiously awaiting Jason's return since 2009. To watch him do what, exactly?

    - People like Wes Craven for the wrong reasons. "Nightmare" is a great movie but a consciously commercial one. Once Craven went down that road, he lost his mojo, although there are flutters of his old groove in "New Nightmare." Meanwhile, "The Hills Have Eyes" is like one of the best punks albums of the 70s and nobody talks about it.

    - I really despised that trend (from maybe 2000-2010?) where major and minor studios remade old exploitation movies. Most of em were overproduced and, frankly, had no balls. I mean, ffs, if you wanna do this shit then own it. Don't make exploitation that's tamer than routine tumblr porn and package it for nationwide audiences, because when you do that you've missed the point entirely.

    - The 2010s so-called horror movie renaissance is ... lame. I know there are die hard fans out there eating it up and loving every minute of it, but mostly I've been bored (IT: Chapter 2 can go fuck itself). The more money and the wider the audience, the duller this genre becomes.

    - My monkey's paw wish is that Batman and James Bond disappear from the culture forever. (Fine, keep whatever is already out there but no new material, please, ffs. Whatever was said, explored, or done around these characters was fully said, explored, and done like 50+ years ago. We don't need, as a culture, to be lashed to this wheel for-fucking-ever.)

    - This week I saw 2 new network tv shows that introduced their Strong Female Character by dressing her in a leather jacket and a Ramones tee shirt, which is characterization by way of Hot Topic. I dunno what depresses me more: The absolute laziness of this technique or that it's just another example of mainstream media companies co-opting counter cultures in the lamest way possible. (This isn't really an unpopular opinion. I just wanted to complain about it.)

    - I was looking up old DaMU posts for some reason and just re-read most of this thread. Pound for conversational pound, I think it's one of the best, if not the best, on the forum.
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    Hills Have Eyes can def strive for the gore porn. Both versions.

    Does Deliverance get to be labeled as the start of the hillbilly genre?

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    I’ve watch Zombie’s Halloween’s more than the original.
    “What we are dealing with here is a perfect engine, er... an eating machine. It's really a miracle of evolution. All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks and that's all.”

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    I’ve watch Zombie’s Halloween’s more than the original.
    That's because it's better.

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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    You two are certainly in the right thread f

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    I don’t think I saw the theatrical versions of either. I’ve only watched the director’s cuts.
    “What we are dealing with here is a perfect engine, er... an eating machine. It's really a miracle of evolution. All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks and that's all.”

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    The Hills Have Eyes is a pretty great psycho hillbilly movie, although it lacks the urgency and "real" feel of Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I feel like it shouldn't be a controversial fact that none of the Friday the 13th movies are good. The only reasons to watch them now are nostalgia and camp value.

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    Quote Quoting Scar (view post)
    I don’t think I saw the theatrical versions of either. I’ve only watched the director’s cuts.
    I liked H2 a lot.

    I liked its “fuck you, we’re doing something weird and different” attitude.

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    The Hills Have Eyes is a pretty great psycho hillbilly movie
    Not to get all Pope Francis about it, but whenever somebody puts qualifier between "great" and "movie," it reads like they're hedging on how great that movie actually is. If a film is genuinely great, like say The Godfather, you don't need to relativize its greatness by describing it as "a great gangster movie," which would imply that its greatness is of a lesser order than that of films in other genres.
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    Pope Francis would also undoubtedly chide Grouchy for failing to write "Chain Saw" properly, in the way God and Tobe Hooper intended.

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    Pope Francis would also undoubtedly chide Grouchy for failing to write "Chain Saw" properly, in the way God and Tobe Hooper intended.
    Oof... That annoys me to no end btw. Nowhere outside of that movie have I seen it spelled that way.

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    I really hope Pope Francis ghost reads Matchcut.

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    F13th movies are supposed to be fun. The Hills Have Eyes is pretty good, but I think Last House On the Left and The People Under The Stairs are better.

    People crying about horror remakes is as old as remakes are.
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    It doesnt bother me if movies get remade. Remakes have no sway on originals. Occasionally they're good. I wish they would try to remake bad movies and try to fix them.

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    We've benefited from a lot of remakes. The Hills Have Eyes being one of them. The original is not good.
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    We've benefited from a lot of remakes. The Hills Have Eyes being one of them. The original is not good.

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    I, too, find remakes (and unnecessary sequels, and prequels, etc) harmless.

    If they’re bad, they do not diminish the original at all.

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    Fright Night remake > original

    Yeah. I went there.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Fright Night remake > original

    Yeah. I went there.

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    Outside Roddy McDowell, I wasn't a big fan of the original. The movie's fine, the cast is good, the writing is pretty strong. But somehow I never got very much invested in anything that was happening on screen.

    One thing about 80s horror --- some of them look and feel extremely dated (like "Fright Night" or "My Bloody Valentine") while other just don't, and probably never will ("Night of the Comet," "Near Dark").

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Fright Night remake > original

    Yeah. I went there.

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    I like both, but the remake is badass. Also I have the original on laserdisc signed by Roddy.

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    Also I have the original on laserdisc signed by Roddy.
    Fucking no way, for real?

    Did you meet him or acquire it already signed?

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    That's it. Another Duke list incoming...

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Fucking no way, for real?

    Did you meet him or acquire it already signed?


    Acquired already signed. $38 bucks. I just couldn't pass it up. I'm not big on memorabilia but for fucks sake...

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    Remake/Adaptations/Reboots Better than the Original
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    Please post this outside the thread so I can attack you for it

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    Acquired already signed. $38 bucks. I just couldn't pass it up. I'm not big on memorabilia but for fucks sake...
    Oh man that is way fucking cool. And yeah, $38 is a steal, especially considering plain ole LaserDisc prices at the time

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    It doesnt bother me if movies get remade. Remakes have no sway on originals. Occasionally they're good. I wish they would try to remake bad movies and try to fix them.
    I think remaking bad movies sounds awesome. Imagine if someone decided to update Plan 9 From Outer Space.
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