Film Awards Talk - 2019

[dreamdead]

The worst thing about Lee's behavior is that it's going to be read as petty, as self-aggrandizing. He has already spoken about a general antipathy for Farrelly's film, but context is absolutely going to be lost here.

Ultimately, the Colman win almost makes up the lackluster options elsewhere. But then I remember that Paul Schrader lost, and I get bitter again.

[Grouchy]

Apparently Spike Lee had a temper tantrum after the Green Book announcement.

https://pagesix.com/2019/02/25/spike...picture-oscar/

Well, he's right. I haven't seen the movie but it looks exactly like reverse Driving Miss Daisy.

[Spinal]

Only problem with Colman winning is that she's the 2nd best performance in her own movie.

[Ivan Drago]

In looking at twitter and my own facebook, it can't be a good thing for 2018 movies when the teaser of The Irishman is one of the heavier discussion moments.

Heavy in what way? Is there a backlash against that already?

[Dukefrukem]

In looking at twitter and my own facebook, it can't be a good thing for 2018 movies when the teaser of The Irishman is one of the heavier discussion moments.

Great move by Netflix btw.

[Ezee E]

Heavy in what way? Is there a backlash against that already?

Heavy as in there's more talk about this spot than the show itself.

And yeah, I think this and the Lion King were the only trailers. Maybe one other.

[Ivan Drago]

Heavy as in there's more talk about this spot than the show itself.

And yeah, I think this and the Lion King were the only trailers. Maybe one other.

I'm crossing my fingers that it gets a bigger theatrical release than Roma did.

[Ezee E]

I'm crossing my fingers that it gets a bigger theatrical release than Roma did.

Roma's doing strong for the 50-100 markets it's still in. For a B&W Foreign movie, that has to mean something.

[baby doll]

I like some of those, haven't seen some of those, but certainly love The Bridge on the River Kwai. And it is critically revered, which by no means indicates you should too of course.

How does it suck? Or is it more that another movie was more worthy that year?

Both times I've seen the film, I found that the cross-cutting between the Guinness/Hayakawa line and the Holden line prevented either story from building much momentum.

Some worthier 1957 movies: An Affair to Remember, Black River, A King in New York, Nights of Cabiria, Paths of Glory, The Sweet Smell of Success, The Tarnished Angels, Throne of Blood, What's Opera, Doc?, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

[Spinal]

Why was Spike wearing Love and Hate on the wrong hands?

Intentional? Drunk?

[Spinal]

Radio Raheem: "Let me tell you the story of Right Hand, Left Hand. It's a tale of good and evil. Hate: it was with this hand that Cain iced his brother. Love: these five fingers, they go straight to the soul of man. The right hand: the hand of love."

[Wryan]

Best guess: he's left-handed, so his left is "the hand of love"?

[Wryan]

Some worthier 1957 movies: An Affair to Remember, Black River, A King in New York, Nights of Cabiria, Paths of Glory, The Sweet Smell of Success, The Tarnished Angels, Throne of Blood, What's Opera, Doc?, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?

Ones I've seen and loved. Good year!

[Spinal]

Best guess: he's left-handed, so his left is "the hand of love"?

Huh. I think you might actually be right.

[Pop Trash]

Only problem with Colman winning is that she's the 2nd best performance in her own movie.

She's only *slightly* less good than Rachel Weisz and certainly better than Emma Stone. Anyway, my fave moment of the night aside from "The Shallow" and Gillian Welch doing the Buster Scruggs song.

[Skitch]

Apparently Spike Lee had a temper tantrum after the Green Book announcement.

https://pagesix.com/2019/02/25/spike...picture-oscar/

Lee also apparently then turned his back during the filmmakers’ acceptance speeches.

Deadline even compared it to the infamous time Kanye West jumped onstage when Taylor Swift won at the MTV VMAs.

Oh for fucks sake thats not even in the same universe.

Edit: Duke that was pointed at the author of the article not you

[Irish]

It sorta is? If he stormed out, everybody in attendance saw it.

That is, he made the moment about himself and shit on somebody else's moment.

Who does that? Spike is a grown man. 62 years old!

[Wryan]

You could say he's a bit.....spiky.

[Skitch]

It sorta is? If he stormed out, everybody in attendance saw it.

That is, he made the moment about himself and shit on somebody else's moment.

Who does that? Spike is a grown man. 62 years old!

I would say storming the stage and taking the mic away from the winner to say someone else shouldve won wouldve been the same. Not just exiting the room.

[Irish]

Not just exiting the room.

C'mon, dude. It's so not just that.

Spike was pretty obviously making a statement. Which, okay? I think it was in poor taste. I love the dude to death but for a wannabe iconoclast, he doesn't quite realize --- or care --- how often his line makes people wrinkle their nose. Maybe he should.

There's speaking truth to power and then there's just being a narcissist.

[Peng]

At least something pure comes out of its win:

[Grouchy]

I don't think Lee is simply angry he lost (and to a movie that's more than a little reminiscent of Driving Miss Daisy), he's angry that the Academy continues to reward manipulative garbage over challenging movies for adults. That makes his tantrum more justified in my opinion.

[Spinal]

I don't think Lee is simply angry he lost (and to a movie that's more than a little reminiscent of Driving Miss Daisy), he's angry that the Academy continues to reward manipulative garbage over challenging movies for adults. That makes his tantrum more justified in my opinion.

This, yes. It's not just that he lost. It's that he lost to the equivalent of the guy in the Celtics jersey from Do the Right Thing.

[Irish]

Lol, what the hell is wrong with you guys? Losing doesn't entitle him to throw a tantrum.

Lee has been around for over 30 years. He should be well used to losing by now because that's the nature of the beast. I mean, c'mon. These are literally life lessons they teach in little league and pee wee football.

ETA: Hollywood isn't in the business of making challenging movies for adults and they never have been. I think it's safe to say most people don't turn up at the movies every weekend to be challenged, especially these days.

But even if that were true, it isn't true with Spike, at least not consistently ("Inside Man", "Oldboy") and it's a dubious claim to make about "BlacKKKlansmen."

[Grouchy]

Eh, we can trade views on BlacKKKlansman back and forth but I don't think it's on the same level of childishness as Green Book.

What I meant is that his movie about racism lost to a more conformist movie about racism. I think that's the point instead of simply the fact that he lost. Would he have thrown the same tantrum if The Favourite or Roma had won? I don't think so.

I'm curious what Jordan Peele said to him.