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    Halloween (David Gordon Green)

    Last 11 things I really enjoyed:

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    Safe (Haynes, 1995)
    South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (Parker, 1999)
    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    As I said in its "Upcoming" thread:

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    I really enjoyed it but can already hear people's reservations and will find it hard to disagree with most of them.

    Others have already said it, but it really is to the original '78 movie what The Force Awakens is to A New Hope and the rest of the original trilogy. Its worship of the source is both its greatest asset and hindrance.
    It's an undeniably imperfect movie (for mostly spoiler-y reasons), but the bigger impression it leaves it that it's such a fun, pure tribute to the spirit and style of the original, even if it ultimately doesn't advance its world in ways much more than applying a tone that all the modern horror that came in the original's wake created. Still, there are many of stylistic flourishes of Green in there, including everything from his intimate Malick-y drama visuals to his Pineapple Express-esque loose conversational comedy. It all gels much more than you'd imagine, but if I had been told it would attempt it all I don't think I would've imagined it would have.

    There will be no better way to see this than in a packed house on opening weekend with an audience who will be with it from the first note of the opening theme (and seriously, even if the movie doesn't move you, I can't imagine the new score from Carpenter & co. not doing so) through all the big, crowd-pleasing moments and knowingly unsubtle nods to the film that started not just this franchise but subgenre.

    And though it may seem minor, it's also a movie that figured out how to not only give Judy Greer things to do, but even give her a beautifully badass hero moment. So maybe in regards like that, it's not so much innovative as much as it's just doing what's obvious. And sometimes there's nothing wrong with that.
    Last 11 things I really enjoyed:

    Speed Racer (Wachowski/Wachowski, 2008)
    Safe (Haynes, 1995)
    South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (Parker, 1999)
    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    I can confirm that I'm reviewing this for the website I write for. Needless to say after your thoughts, I'm excited!
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    Confess, Fletch (Mottola, 2022) 3.5
    M3GAN (Johnstone, 2023) 3.5
    Turning Red (Shi, 2022) 4.5
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    This is excellent. Thoughts will come on Thursday.
    Last Five Films I've Seen (Out of 5)

    The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and the Horse (Mackesy, 2022) 4.5
    Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (Crawford, 2022) 4
    Confess, Fletch (Mottola, 2022) 3.5
    M3GAN (Johnstone, 2023) 3.5
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    Last Five Films I've Seen (Out of 5)

    The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and the Horse (Mackesy, 2022) 4.5
    Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (Crawford, 2022) 4
    Confess, Fletch (Mottola, 2022) 3.5
    M3GAN (Johnstone, 2023) 3.5
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    Yup, saw it again last night. Still immensely enjoyable, sharply intense, and disarmingly very funny. I think having seen so many movies at TIFF when I saw it first time around made it an even more tense experience because I'd genuinely forgotten how certain fateful sequences would play out, and I definitely forgot some of the lines that made me laugh all over again.

    Also a feel as if I bunch of my issues fell away on this viewing too, maybe because I'd now seen them coming, or maybe because I knew where it would eventually take things to effectively pay off everything more important in the end, but I think I liked it even more on second viewing, which is especially rare with modern horror. Still, two big things still stick out in my mind as big "Why!" moments: [
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    Last 11 things I really enjoyed:

    Speed Racer (Wachowski/Wachowski, 2008)
    Safe (Haynes, 1995)
    South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (Parker, 1999)
    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    Some of the humor worked and some didn't, but the most "Halloween" moments of this movie all work terrifically. Didn't care for the upshot of the [
    ] "subplot," but overall it's a lot of good fun. Some of the big crowd-pleasing moments serve pure elation after decades of knowing what will happen or could happen in movies like this and movies in this series.

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    Halloween H40 is AHEM a cut above most of the sequels, but like the rest of them, this just solidifies the timeless quality of the original. David Gordon Green brings a solid craft lacking from part 4 up to part Zombie when Hackie McHackerson was helming them.

    The decision to essentially turn Laurie Strode into Laurie Rambo (or perhaps Sarah Connor) is interesting, earned, and makes for a fiery ending (literally and figuratively). Echoes of David Fincher's Panic Room in the finale as well.

    I do think -despite Green's craftsmanship- this veers a little too close to generic sequel territory. The teenager scenes feel like going through the motions of hundreds of other slasher movies since the og. Halloween. And what was up with poor Oscar's trajectory? I don't think I've seen a character in a slasher flick be so condescendingly humiliated since I cringed watching poor Shelly in Friday the 13th Part III.

    Say what you want, but I think Rob Zombie's Halloween is more original and brings a certain level of sweaty, sleazy auteurism lacking in Green's vision. I totally understand people hating the Michael Myers backstory, but treated as its own thing, I think it works as a bizarre coming-of-age story. Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a review of Zombie's movie(s), but I do wonder if Green's choices (or lack thereof) might make people appreciate what Rob Zombie was doing more.
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    Zombie's movie is the best Halloween in the franchise, while his sequel is one of the worst. ( I haven't seen this one yet )
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    Spoilers ahoy.

    Nay.

    There's a solid central idea of the way that Myers' legacy has created a new monster (or maybe more), with Strode positioned at times like a sort of opposing disciple of Michael's. It goes further than the shrink's somewhat dopey positioning of them as some sort of eternal predator/prey and into how Strode's hurt her family and secretly wished for Myers to escape (which is itself an implicit wish for others to die so she can slake her revenge - party foul, Laurie). I kept expecting her to go too far at some point and hurt someone close to her in the process of harpooning her white whale, and the fact that she never did (and offers a limp apology to her daughter at a crucial moment that carries no real weight or meaning, because the film never gives Laurie a real opportunity for self-reflection) hurts the movie's theming somewhat.

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    I didn't like how violent the film was. The original contained barely any gore, and this one ladles on the violence for reasons I'm unclear on. For a film that wants to ignore all the other Halloween films, it's oddly content to borrow their similar misunderstanding of what made the original film so intense an experience. The tracking shot in the middle of the film that shows Myers back in his element at once impresses with its fluidity and staging (that must've taken some planning, we think) while also forgoing the sense of culmination in the original film*, opting instead for sudden, brutal, blood-covered assaults on randos we meet 10 seconds before the knife meets their necks. It's a weird scene, one that reminds me that people back in the 1980s so often compared slashers to pornography. Not because there was a sexual kink to it, but because there was nothing else there. The nadir of the violence is probably when a head gets crushed, and we get a few shots of the mealy bone-brain leftovers.

    * A huge reason that the original works so well is because Myers waits a good damn while before he goes about his business. He follows the girls, he targets the girls, we know they're at risk, but they don't, and that dramatic irony generates so much tension that when Myers finally goes to work, it's not just another beat in the film.

    Oddly, the sequel this movie most reminded me, even more than Halloween, was the original Halloween 2, a film I generally have no regard for because, as said above, it made Myers into a reel-punctuating killer who murders somebody every five or ten minutes, gruesomely and visibly, and thinks that scares me, when all it really does is just sorta bum me out. It also ends with a fire that supposedly destroys Myers, although, y'know, who can say? I thought Laurie chopping off Michael's head in H2O was a merciful end to this story (such as it is), but Resurrection stupidly rejiggered that ending, and there have been two franchise reboots since then. Nothing will ever kill Myers, and now that this film's made bank, we as doomed to seeing Myers again as Laurie is.

    Here's the thing, though. I was still somewhat involved, even to the end, and I'm not entirely sure why. I think part of it is because, as far as scenario goes, it's hard to beat Myers infiltrating a house designed to defeat him. The steel doors that SLAM down. The oversized panic room basement with its row of guns. It's weird that, in spite of all those safeguards, the front door has candy-glass windows, but nevermind. As others have said, there's a satisfying moment where Greer's character [
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    But I do think my involvement was almost entirely on that technical level. The film doesn't do a good job connecting the emotional dots of characters into meaningful character arcs, and so subversions like the above spoiler are pleasantly surprising but also islanded from all their behavior up to that point. (The moment mentioned even earlier, when Laurie apropos of nothing apologizes to her daughter, is another example.)

    And, at a few key moments, the film really just steps on its own dick trying to keep the story going. After Laurie learns that Myers' bus got tipped over, sure, she immediately goes to warn her daughter (of course, and that's in character). But she never actually says the words "Michael Myers," which is fucking ridiculous. Similarly, one character learns that Halloween terrorizer Michael Myers just escaped prison, 40 years after he murdered a bunch of people (to the day!), and he scoffs and says, "What are we gonna do, cancel Halloween?" Well... yes, you daffy bitch. Immediately institute a curfew and have patrols going around the most residential parts of town. A comment like that makes me wish for the relative sanity of the mayor from Jaws. (The fact that nobody on staff checks him on this makes things even worse.) And don't forget when modern teen Allison gets her phone dunked in a bowl of jello, and it's still functioning just fine, but - hey! - if the film doesn't separate her from her phone somehow, then later events that need to happen cannot happen the way the filmmakers want them to.

    Sigh.

    So, nice things.

    The score. Obviously. Highlight was probably those BWUMMMS when Allison raced from house to house.

    Sometimes, David Gordon Green and his DP do a fantastic job of honoring the original film's tendency to put Myers in the back of the frame, either watching or engaging in his own action. Whenever the film grounds one of the stalk-and-slash scenes with an empathetic character, the craft works. The bedroom sequence with a teenage girl works. And a sequence in a backyard with a too-drunk lovelorn dork similarly works (at least, it does until the Gore Fairy sprinkles in a mouth impalement, thank God we got a mouth impalement, good job, Gore Fairy).

    Some individual shots stamped right into my brain, like a cop slow-approaching the upturned bus, its headlamps glowing against the corn behind them both, illuminating the cop with a highlight of gold. Or the way the exterior at the psychiatric ward looks like an enormous chess board (someone mentions chess later, I think, but I don't know if that's a motif or just a grace note).

    The film has the good sense to hire Toby Huss, star of Pete and Pete and Carnivale.

    It's an entirely competent film.

    But maybe that's what bothers me. I'd almost rather have the madness of Zombie's white trash nonsense than this kind of Hollywood-slick re-appropriation of the greatest indie-horror of all time. Laurie taking her first toke in the original film somehow felt naturalistic and plausible (and sorta endearing). In this film, there's a school party here that feels airlifted from every other high school film ever made.

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    Maybe I wouldn't be so down on this if I don't have H20 to compare it to. 90s cheese and all, that one accomplishes what H40 wants to do better and clearer, a final culmination of postpone showdown after PTSD-fueled absent years. Green's work wants so much to be the original's direct continuation that various visual and thematic references, effective in of themselves, clang loudly against generic modern slasher genre, including some teen stuff that manages to feel even tired than the original's 40 years ago.

    The climatic showdown is superficially satisfying, but also so beholden to *THEME*, which needs to be developed throughout the story, that it manages the double trick of not developing Laurie to be as full a person as in H20 (where she is a person first, PTSD tics second), and of somehow making Michael to be like an afterthought. Not to mention that wishy-washy unfinality, contrasted to H20's definitive, soul-stirring conclusion (which is reverse in Resurrection, but whatevs, it means that making a good ending and keeping a franchise going on aren't mutually exclusive). Carpenter's updated score absolutely rips though, especially in the scene where the daughter comes face to face with Michael for the first time. 5.5/10
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    I really liked it, but when compared to all of the series it doesn't have a very high bar to clear.
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    This was terrible. A total shit show.

    - The old, desiccated mask is the only good visual idea.

    - They couldn't go 10 minutes without referencing the original film. Done lightly, such references can be fun. Too heavily, and you're pandering. "Halloween" takes it so far that it becomes condescending.

    - Doesn't say anything new about the material. Outside the hype and current context, it's indistinguishable from all the other "Halloween" sequels. They were so busy plugging the original film they forgot to make a decent slasher movie.

    - This is the kinda shit "Scream" made fun of in 1996, except we're still getting it in 2018. Shame on McBride, Green, Blum, and Carpenter, who pretend to have a new energy and an actual idea when promoting this film.

    - Aside from a few ostentatious "I went to film school" shots, it looks like a television show.

    - Green has no idea how to create tension and maintain it, and the action sequences are repetitive and dull.

    - Badly written. The characters are non-existent. Why was Judy Greer in this movie? Or the grandkid? The movie has no center. It's supposed to be about Laurie, I guess, but I bet if we timed it, Curtis appears in less than 30 minutes of screentime.

    - What little motivations the characters are given comes solely from dialogue. No character takes action before tell the audience they're going to act, and why.

    - We learn almost nothing about Laurie Strode's life over the last 40 years (And the messages around Laurie are kinda fucked up. It's the most backasswards attempt at a "strong female character" I've ever seen.)

    - Why make Laurie a non-entity? Why toss out the sequels and then start back in the same place, with Michael in an institution? Wouldn't it have been scarier if he had never been found? And wouldn't have Laurie been more interesting if she had grown up to be an actual person? Maybe a psychiatrist herself, or in horror movie fashion, a small town sheriff.

    - Why not upend everyone's expectations and toss out the mask after the first act? Hire a solid actor (D'Onofrio! Ruffalo!), keep them off the bill, let it be a surprise, and let us hear what Michael has to say.

    - Doubly embarrassing in a year with "Revenge" and "You Were Never Really Here," two films that did exactly what Blum and Green attempted ("elevated genre") and did it much, much better.

    - The bar is now pretty low for Blumhouse, but this wasn't even a good Blumhouse movie.

    * A huge reason that the original works so well is because Myers waits a good damn while before he goes about his business. He follows the girls, he targets the girls, we know they're at risk, but they don't, and that dramatic irony generates so much tension that when Myers finally goes to work, it's not just another beat in the film.
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    I think some fans tend to under-appreciate how much story exists in the original "Halloween" outside the horror elements. Plus, as you noted, when things kick in, Michael doesn't just kill randos. He stalks and murders the girls for no reason. This ties into the all that thematic shit Loomis spouts whenever he's on-screen and it's creepy as hell.

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    I think I talked to Peng about this, but what's weird is that I have vivid memories of H20 having the EXACT SAME MARKETING HYPE as H40. As in, "forget all the other sequels, THIS is the REAL sequel!"... and of course just like H40, H20 was... a decent Halloween sequel.
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    Hmmm....
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    After reflecting on this for a few days I've decided I liked it- but with several reservations. I think this is the most menacing Michael we've seen and it's made very clear in the first 20 minutes (with a certain death right after the bus crash). I really like that about the movie. But the movie needed that kind of motivation for Michael (essentially no motivation, he just kills to kill) after decoupling the relationship with Laurie established in Halloween 2.

    But for the majority of the movie, I was having flash backs of JJ Abrams with The Force Awakens; at what point do the call backs remain call backs and not simply fan service [sitting in classroom and staring out the window, reverse closet scare, fall off the roof fakeout] It just becomes a retread. That being said- Laurie taking things into her own hands for the sequel is, essentially, the exact thing we would tell Sidney (Scream), Nancy (Nightmare on Elm Street), anyone going to Camp Crystal Lake (Friday the 13th) to do! These kinds of events keep happening to these people and Laruie prepared! And she went crazy doing it! That's wonderful stuff for a slasher film.

    I dont think the twist/reveal towards the end was necessary. That was the script needing something to get our characters across the map. This isn't a very good franchise to begin with- Having just watched the Friday the 13th and Nightmare series, there's much more going on in those slashers than what Michael can bring to the screen, but this is a serviceable movie that I would likely rewatch on a Halloween week.

    1.Halloween 2007 ★★★½
    2.Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 1998 ★★★½
    3.Halloween III: Season of the Witch 1982 ★★★
    4.Halloween 1978 ★★★
    5.Halloween 2018 ★★★
    6.Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 1988 ★★½
    7.Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 1995 ★★½
    8.Halloween II 1981 ★★
    9.Halloween: Resurrection 2002 ★
    10.Halloween II 2009 ★
    11.Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers ½
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    1.Halloween 2007 ★★★½
    2.Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 1998 ★★★½
    3.Halloween III: Season of the Witch 1982 ★★★
    4.Halloween 1978 ★★★
    5.Halloween 2018 ★★★
    6.Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 1988 ★★½
    7.Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 1995 ★★½
    8.Halloween II 1981 ★★
    9.Halloween: Resurrection 2002 ★
    10.Halloween II 2009 ★
    11.Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers ½
    Well...... that's certainly a unique opinion.
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    CANON
    Halloween 1978
    Halloween II 1981

    WORTH A WATCH
    Halloween III: Season of the Witch 1982
    Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 1998
    Halloween 2007
    Halloween II 2009
    Halloween 2018

    KINDA BAD BUT SOME REDEEMING VALUE
    Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 1988

    BAD AVOID
    Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers 1989

    HAVEN'T SEEN BUT PROBABLY BAD BY MOST ACCOUNTS
    Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 1995
    Halloween: Resurrection 2002
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    Top Gun - 7
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller - 8
    Crimes of the Future - 8
    Videodrome - 9
    Valley Girl - 8
    Summer of '42 - 7
    In the Line of Fire - 8
    Passenger 57 - 7
    Everything Everywhere All at Once - 6



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    Also, for any Halloween heads out there (lookin' at you Duke) Amy Nicholson at The Ringer did a 9 part insane deep dive podcast into Halloween covering everything from serial killer inspirations to an early history of John Carpenter to all the sequels and 80s slasher ripoffs and more. Highly recommended.

    https://www.theringer.com/halloween-unmasked
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    Top Gun - 7
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller - 8
    Crimes of the Future - 8
    Videodrome - 9
    Valley Girl - 8
    Summer of '42 - 7
    In the Line of Fire - 8
    Passenger 57 - 7
    Everything Everywhere All at Once - 6



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    Quote Quoting Pop Trash (view post)
    CANON
    Halloween 1978
    Halloween II 1981

    WORTH A WATCH
    Halloween III: Season of the Witch 1982
    Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 1998
    Halloween 2007
    Halloween II 2009
    Halloween 2018

    KINDA BAD BUT SOME REDEEMING VALUE
    Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 1988

    BAD AVOID
    Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers 1989

    HAVEN'T SEEN BUT PROBABLY BAD BY MOST ACCOUNTS
    Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 1995
    Halloween: Resurrection 2002
    Lol my review on Letterboxd for Halloween5:

    Dreadful. It's unbelievable this script was green-lit. It makes little to no sense with the rest of the series (at least Season of the Witch made an attempt to capitalize on the fear of Michael Myers). This movie takes place a year after the events in Halloween IV, which means Myers escaped the explosion, the mine shaft, down a driver, and was (supposedly) taken in by a hermit in the woods and kept him alive for 365 days. That's right. The hermit lived with Michael for exactly one year. Michael just laid there on a table motionless until the following Halloween eve. How convenient.

    Then Michael suddenly awakens and decides it's time to go kill his sister's daughter (Jamie) again. [Speaking of which, why is Michael so hell bent on killing Jamie and not his sister? So because Laurie leaves town he decides she's not important anymore? Why doesn't Jamie just leave town?] Michael will probably resort to going after Jamie's 65th cousin or something.

    In this movie Michael is not only a stalker, but he's also a master of disguise when he kills his niece's stepmother's friend's boyfriend and replaces his white Captain Kirk mask with a different Halloween mask to take his niece's stepmother's friend (Tina) on a date- He also knows exactly where she lives to pick her up in her dead boyfriends car and even bothers to stop at a gas station when she asks for cigarettes. Speaking of which, why is Tina the star of this movie? Why are we supposed to care about her? Because I'm pretty sure no one does. It was just a matter of time before she met her demise- which would be the 4th time this lazy Haddonfield police force gets humiliated.



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    BTW, does anyone find it weird, that the actress that plays Jamie (a child) is the same actress that gets killed in Zombie's Halloween during a nude sex scene?
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    Also, for any Halloween heads out there (lookin' at you Duke) Amy Nicholson at The Ringer did a 9 part insane deep dive podcast into Halloween covering everything from serial killer inspirations to an early history of John Carpenter to all the sequels and 80s slasher ripoffs and more. Highly recommended.

    https://www.theringer.com/halloween-unmasked
    Thanks! I'd definitely be interested in this.
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    Thanks! I'd definitely be interested in this.
    Episode 2, and now I need to find out how I can watch Captain Voyeur.
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    BTW, does anyone find it weird, that the actress that plays Jamie (a child) is the same actress that gets killed in Zombie's Halloween during a nude sex scene?
    I wonder if post #metoo women film critics would nail Rob Zombie for that today (no pun intended). It was a different time.
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    Top Gun - 7
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller - 8
    Crimes of the Future - 8
    Videodrome - 9
    Valley Girl - 8
    Summer of '42 - 7
    In the Line of Fire - 8
    Passenger 57 - 7
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    After reflection:

    1. Halloween (1978) - A+
    2. Halloween: H2O (1998) - B-
    3. Halloween: Season of the Witch (1982) - C+
    4. Halloween (2007) - C+
    5. Halloween (2018) - C+
    6. Halloween 2 (2009) - C
    7. Halloween 2 (1981) - D+
    8. Halloween: Resurrection (2002) - F

    For someone who's not a fan of this franchise, I sure have watched a lot of its bullshit. Blame the original, which is one of a handful of horror films that could plausibly be called the best ever. That flick is pure suspense.

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    These high ratings for H20 both intrigue and disturb me

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