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Thread: Mandy (Panos Cosmatos)

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    Mandy (Panos Cosmatos)

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    This movie is just beautiful.
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    The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and the Horse (Mackesy, 2022) 4.5
    Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (Crawford, 2022) 4
    Confess, Fletch (Mottola, 2022) 3.5
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    Quote Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)
    This movie is just beautiful.
    Does it live up to that trailer?? Seems way too good to be true.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Does it live up to that trailer?? Seems way too good to be true.
    I'm curious if it lives up to the hype or turns out to be another one of those experiences you needed to see opening night at Fantastic Fest with a big audience.

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    It's incredible. Just next-level GOD MODE from Cage.
    Sure why not?

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    Once TIFF is done this is will immediately be the first movie I see.

    For years I'd been waiting to leap at whatever Cosmatos did next, so the fact that is also looks like this? Fantastic.

    I purposely watched the trailer (which was stunning) only once back when it was released to keep it all as fresh as possible.

    So yeah, can't wait!
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    I have to give it a mild yay because there is some stuff in the first half of the movie that is simply extraordinary and utterly unique. Ultimately though, the film's emptiness catches up with it and the second half becomes a tedious, predictable bore. I liked it more when it was a hallucinatory impenetrable nightmare before it devolves into a campy Nic Cage splatter-fest.

    Linus Roache is great though, channeling Alice Cooper and Charles Manson, and Andrea Riseborough is captivating in every scene she's in.
    Last edited by Spinal; 09-21-2018 at 04:12 PM.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Here's the problem:

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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Gorgeous indeed. [
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Gorgeous indeed. [
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    I have a rough interpretation of the story as [
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    I intend to iron these out more after I've seen it again this weekend, but there's loads more to unpack than I expected, tonal shift be damned.
    Last Five Films I've Seen (Out of 5)

    The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and the Horse (Mackesy, 2022) 4.5
    Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (Crawford, 2022) 4
    Confess, Fletch (Mottola, 2022) 3.5
    M3GAN (Johnstone, 2023) 3.5
    Turning Red (Shi, 2022) 4.5
    Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953) 5

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    I enjoyed bits and pieces of this and it certainly was an experience. I woulda enjoyed it more if Cosmatos' ego wasn't so fucking big. (2 hours? Really, dude?)

    Agree with Spinal that the first part is better than the second .
    Last edited by Irish; 09-22-2018 at 10:46 PM.

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    An initial three stars that I have a feeling will wear down as I think and talk about the movie.

    Yes, the visual spectacle and visualization of a heavy metal ballad is certainly on display here. To the point that it's almost a music video more than a narrative movie. Only thing is, there is a straightforward story here that's pretty dang simple here (and already addressed by MCers). The romance is also anything but interesting here. There's not really any real chemistry between Mandy and Cage in my opinion.

    BTW, watched this in Arizona, and for the first time ever, saw the Alamo have to boot out someone. This is an audience of four by the way. I could hear some rumblings, but wasn't close enough to them for it to annoy me. A couple were just talking a lot, and someone was annoyed and shared their complaint. Alamo kept their eyes out, and the couple, drunk most likely, purposely got louder to where I could hear it too, and were quickly kicked out. Nice job on the Alamo staff.

    Anyhow, casting Nic Cage in this is pretty effective at this point. It'd be a great tip to his career if he finished his career on this. We know he's nowhere near the end to this, but still.

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    I realized later that this was the first Nicolas Cage movie I've seen since Adaptation (not counting animation and cameos).
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Three stars is about right.

    This is the Neon Demon of the year.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Three stars is about right.

    This is the Neon Demon of the year.
    The bathroom freak out alone is better than anything in Neon Demon. Cage forging some bizarre custom sword that he somehow knows how to do is better than Neon Demon. "You ripped my shirt" is better than Neon Demon. ... just way better than Neon Demon.
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    I too prefer the intimate, somber first half over the raged up second half (though there are many poetics moments of stillness amidst all the chaos_
    Sure why not?

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    The bathroom freak out alone is better than anything in Neon Demon. Cage forging some bizarre custom sword that he somehow knows how to do is better than Neon Demon. "You ripped my shirt" is better than Neon Demon. ... just way better than Neon Demon.
    More in that it's a strange, unique movie that will have many lovers and probably even more hating on it. But essentially is a midnight movie all in the end.

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    I also thought of The Neon Demon as I was watching it. More in the sense of it being a movie with an artistic aesthetic I wished more directors would emulate, but unfortunately in service of a script with nothing to say.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    More in that it's a strange, unique movie that will have many lovers and probably even more hating on it. But essentially is a midnight movie all in the end.
    Can you remember a single scene, outside of the ending, of Neon Demon?
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Can you remember a single scene, outside of the ending, of Neon Demon?
    Mountain lion in hotel room comes to mind.

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    Still had to google it.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Can you remember a single scene, outside of the ending, of Neon Demon?
    Oh man, that movie has several absolutely gorgeous shots that are crystal clear in my memory. My favorite is Jena Malone lying naked in her room, illuminated only by the moon which creates a silhouette effect. She later spreads her legs (again, silhouette effect so nothing explicit is really shown) and a puddle of blood slowly emanates below her.

    Another shot I really like is Elle Fanning listening to some bit of violence through her motel room wall while the camera keeps going back and back and back until the perspective is clearly way beyond the geometry of the motel room, but she is still enclosed in total blackness.

    I also like the strobe triangle scene.

    I'm a cinematography whore, so I'm all about these things.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Can you remember a single scene, outside of the ending, of Neon Demon?
    Necrophilia isn't some shit you just forget
    ‎The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.

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    46/100
    Turns out, dull, monotonous revenge porn covered in a self-consciously nostalgic sensibility married to a strong sense of atmospherics is still dull, monotonous revenge porn when you get right down to it. As soon as the inciting event occurs, it is pretty much all downhill as Cosmatos and Cage preach to the perverted.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    The bathroom freak out alone is better than anything in Neon Demon. Cage forging some bizarre custom sword that he somehow knows how to do is better than Neon Demon. "You ripped my shirt" is better than Neon Demon. ... just way better than Neon Demon.
    That bathroom scene might be the worst scene I've seen all year. It's just bad.
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