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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    The one film on trans' list I wonder about is Halloween. Both leagues valued it much higher I did, so I was surprised to see it go so early.

    Did anyone else consider taking a late-round chance on Suspiria? Ultimately, I couldn't convince myself to select arty horror beginning in limited release over a mediocre wide release option. But I thought about it.
    I did. And I avoided Halloween based on the newer installment openings by Zombie. They didn't have a very high take. But right after we did the draft, of course this report comes out....

    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...llion-opening/

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    Dark Phoenix pushed to summer.

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    Damn it. Well, round average for me obviously.
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***
    The Forbidden Room (Maddin/Johnson, 2015) ***1/2
    Our Little Sister (Koreeda, 2015) ***
    What We Do in the Shadows (Clement/Waititi, 2014) ***1/2

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Dark Phoenix pushed to summer.
    Damn, again? And this time like only 2 days after the trailer drops? What the hell's going on with that movie? :\

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    Alita moved as well but still in game frame.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Alita moved as well but still in game frame.
    That one's a wise move on their part. Stands a much better chance in our game now too, I'd say.

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    Oof, just realized Winston took Dark Phoenix, making his second film to move before we even start the game.
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***
    The Forbidden Room (Maddin/Johnson, 2015) ***1/2
    Our Little Sister (Koreeda, 2015) ***
    What We Do in the Shadows (Clement/Waititi, 2014) ***1/2

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Based on these easy to read lists, if I could swap my picks with anyone, it would be trans.

    Prediction: Trans to win back to back seasons.
    I like my first 5, but I think there is a steep drop off for the rest, and I have next to no faith in the last three.
    Last 10 Movies Seen
    (90+ = canonical, 80-89 = brilliant, 70-79 = strongly recommended, 60-69 = good, 50-59 = mixed, 40-49 = below average with some good points, 30-39 = poor, 20-29 = bad, 10-19 = terrible, 0-9 = soul-crushingly inept in every way)

    Like Someone in Love
    (2012) 56
    Timbuktu
    (2014
    ) 62
    The Changeling (1980) 65
    The Standoff at Sparrow Creek (2019) 59
    Ida
    (2013) 65
    Nocturama (2016) 68

    Along With the Gods: The Last 49 Days
    (2018) 45

    The Guns of Navarone
    (1961) 71
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) 65
    A Simple Favor (2018) 47

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    The one film on trans' list I wonder about is Halloween. Both leagues valued it much higher I did, so I was surprised to see it go so early.

    Did anyone else consider taking a late-round chance on Suspiria? Ultimately, I couldn't convince myself to select arty horror beginning in limited release over a mediocre wide release option. But I thought about it.
    Re: Halloween. I had seen projections of a strong opening, and then I read a few of the reviews that suggested that (a) it was quite funny in places, and more importantly (b) the ending is the best part. I've always thought that even uneven films can benefit from great word of mouth if they end on a high. Plus it is opening just before Halloween itself, so...

    Re: Suspira. Never considered it. I got lucky with Hereditary, but I think Suspira will be too esoteric for box office gold. That said, I wouldn't be shocked to see it outperform Serenity or Welcome to Marwen on my list.
    Last 10 Movies Seen
    (90+ = canonical, 80-89 = brilliant, 70-79 = strongly recommended, 60-69 = good, 50-59 = mixed, 40-49 = below average with some good points, 30-39 = poor, 20-29 = bad, 10-19 = terrible, 0-9 = soul-crushingly inept in every way)

    Like Someone in Love
    (2012) 56
    Timbuktu
    (2014
    ) 62
    The Changeling (1980) 65
    The Standoff at Sparrow Creek (2019) 59
    Ida
    (2013) 65
    Nocturama (2016) 68

    Along With the Gods: The Last 49 Days
    (2018) 45

    The Guns of Navarone
    (1961) 71
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) 65
    A Simple Favor (2018) 47

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    Oof, just realized Winston took Dark Phoenix, making his second film to move before we even start the game.
    Fuck. And I was top pick both rounds. Round average again I guess.

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    Funnily enough, I think that move benefits Spinal even more because I thought Dark Phoenix was gonna bomb.
    Last 10 Movies Seen
    (90+ = canonical, 80-89 = brilliant, 70-79 = strongly recommended, 60-69 = good, 50-59 = mixed, 40-49 = below average with some good points, 30-39 = poor, 20-29 = bad, 10-19 = terrible, 0-9 = soul-crushingly inept in every way)

    Like Someone in Love
    (2012) 56
    Timbuktu
    (2014
    ) 62
    The Changeling (1980) 65
    The Standoff at Sparrow Creek (2019) 59
    Ida
    (2013) 65
    Nocturama (2016) 68

    Along With the Gods: The Last 49 Days
    (2018) 45

    The Guns of Navarone
    (1961) 71
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) 65
    A Simple Favor (2018) 47

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    If Suspiria is art-house Hereditary like horror, it probably won't even make more than $10 million.
    If it's something that actually scares people, well, probably still won't make more than $10 million.

    Climax - *
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - ** 1/2
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    Re: Suspira. Never considered it. I got lucky with Hereditary, but I think Suspira will be too esoteric for box office gold.
    Yep, agreed. Outside an 8th or 9th round pick I guess. It looks potentially awesome, but it's not about picking good movies. It's about picking banking movies.

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    I think I had a pretty solid chance at this before this, with two potential late round coups in Hard Powder and Instant Family, but those two delays have probably scuppered my chances (much like the Cloverfield 3 Netflix release two round ago).

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    Somehow just realizing that I drafted both Venom and A Star Is Born and both open this weekend. Not too worried about one massively taking away from the other's audience though.

    And I'm happy that Bad Times at the El Royale's released date moved back from this weekend, both because I saw it last night and liked it a bunch, but also realize that it's a niche, R-rated genre riff that'll probably has little commercial juice aside from getting as many of its stars out on the promo circuit in a week where two other huge movies aren't hogging up that same attention. (Though it is going up against First Man..) I don't expect it to do fantastically in any situation, which is a shame, but happy to take a hit for something that's actually unique and quality (especially as a 9th round pick).

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    Re: Halloween. I had seen projections of a strong opening, and then I read a few of the reviews that suggested that (a) it was quite funny in places, and more importantly (b) the ending is the best part. I've always thought that even uneven films can benefit from great word of mouth if they end on a high. Plus it is opening just before Halloween itself, so...
    Can confirm these things to be true. You get a bunch of David Gordon Green's more George Washington / Undertow type of touches (in both interesting montage-y editing choices and some more stylistically grounded cinematographic choices) but then there's just as much of his (and obviously McBride's) Pineapple Express and Eastbound & Down-esque conversational dialogue and comedic riffing.

    On top of that the whole thing is very much indebted to Carpenter's '78 original with a more modern horror edge, so it's an interesting blend of things that definitely worked for me, but not sure if it will for everyone, both general audience and film-obsessed alike.
    Cold War (Pawlikowski, 2018) - **** / 9.3
    Minding the Gap (Liu, 2018) - **** / 9.0
    Green Book (Farrelly, 2018) - ** / 5.8
    Mandy (Cosmatos, 2018) - **** / 8.9
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (Mitchell, 2019) - *** / 7.7
    Alita: Battle Angel (Rodriguez, 2019) - ** / 5.9
    Bohemian Rhapsody ("Singer", 2018) - ** / 4.1
    Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse (Persichetti/Ramsey/Rothman, 2018) - **** / 9.2
    Vice (McKay, 2018) - ** / 5.6
    The Favourite (Lanthimos, 2018) - **** / 9.3

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    Quote Quoting Henry Gale (view post)
    Somehow just realizing that I drafted both Venom and A Star Is Born and both open this weekend. Not too worried about one massively taking away from the other's audience though.
    I'd be worried about the reviews for the former if I were you, but given that The Meg, one of the most abysmally boring films of the year, is going to get close to $150 m domestic, it may not matter.

    Hope The Hate U Give opens strongly in limited release to get the word of mouth going before it opens wide in two weeks.
    Last 10 Movies Seen
    (90+ = canonical, 80-89 = brilliant, 70-79 = strongly recommended, 60-69 = good, 50-59 = mixed, 40-49 = below average with some good points, 30-39 = poor, 20-29 = bad, 10-19 = terrible, 0-9 = soul-crushingly inept in every way)

    Like Someone in Love
    (2012) 56
    Timbuktu
    (2014
    ) 62
    The Changeling (1980) 65
    The Standoff at Sparrow Creek (2019) 59
    Ida
    (2013) 65
    Nocturama (2016) 68

    Along With the Gods: The Last 49 Days
    (2018) 45

    The Guns of Navarone
    (1961) 71
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) 65
    A Simple Favor (2018) 47

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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Hope The Hate U Give opens strongly in limited release to get the word of mouth going before it opens wide in two weeks.
    I'm kinda surprised Fox is giving it a limited release first before expanding wide. Usually their YA novel adaptations break the bank, and The Hate U Give looks poised to do the same given its topical nature.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    I'd be worried about the reviews for the former if I were you, but given that The Meg, one of the most abysmally boring films of the year, is going to get close to $150 m domestic, it may not matter.
    Yeah, I don't think people who are set on seeing it really care about the critical reaction, or will allow that response will suddenly deter them from seeing it entirely. If hypothetically every person who continues to voice how much they dislike how the character was done in Spider-Man 3 buys a ticket to it, then it'll be huge regardless.

    But if the reviews were good, I'd have expected opening numbers in the $90 million range, or even closer to Deadpool or Suicide Squad. Not that the latter didn't get similar reviews to Venom or that I even like the former, but, you know.. October release and weird perception as to where it even lands in the current landscape of its universe, those were definitely always against it.

    It still could very well be the biggest October opening ever.
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    Cold War (Pawlikowski, 2018) - **** / 9.3
    Minding the Gap (Liu, 2018) - **** / 9.0
    Green Book (Farrelly, 2018) - ** / 5.8
    Mandy (Cosmatos, 2018) - **** / 8.9
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (Mitchell, 2019) - *** / 7.7
    Alita: Battle Angel (Rodriguez, 2019) - ** / 5.9
    Bohemian Rhapsody ("Singer", 2018) - ** / 4.1
    Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse (Persichetti/Ramsey/Rothman, 2018) - **** / 9.2
    Vice (McKay, 2018) - ** / 5.6
    The Favourite (Lanthimos, 2018) - **** / 9.3

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    My 9th pick Serenity has been moved from October to January. I think it is a dog. My only hope is that they drop it altogether and then I can pick up Happy Death Day 2U. Come on!
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    Like Someone in Love
    (2012) 56
    Timbuktu
    (2014
    ) 62
    The Changeling (1980) 65
    The Standoff at Sparrow Creek (2019) 59
    Ida
    (2013) 65
    Nocturama (2016) 68

    Along With the Gods: The Last 49 Days
    (2018) 45

    The Guns of Navarone
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    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) 65
    A Simple Favor (2018) 47

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    The first scores have been recorded. Scoreboard is in the thread's first post. Although only 2 films are in play so far, their results seem pretty significant. Both did quite well in their first week:

    Venom $107,102,151
    A Star is Born $66,160,360

    The Hate U Give opened in limited release, but is not in play as yet. This upcoming week, it moves to 248 theaters, meaning it will really have to spike in popularity in order to be a factor in this game.
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***
    The Forbidden Room (Maddin/Johnson, 2015) ***1/2
    Our Little Sister (Koreeda, 2015) ***
    What We Do in the Shadows (Clement/Waititi, 2014) ***1/2

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    I think ASIB has legs and will almost be even with Venom when it's all said and done.

    Climax - *
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - ** 1/2
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    Other October releases:

    Oct 12:
    First Man (Lazlo, TGM)
    Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween (Lazlo, TGM)
    Bad Times at the El Royale (Spinal, Henry Gale)

    Oct 19:
    Halloween (transmogrifier, Ivan Drago)

    Oct 26:
    Hunter Killer (Skitch)
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***
    The Forbidden Room (Maddin/Johnson, 2015) ***1/2
    Our Little Sister (Koreeda, 2015) ***
    What We Do in the Shadows (Clement/Waititi, 2014) ***1/2

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    Well my theater is certainly expecting Halloween to be a major hit. Its getting about as many Thursday night pre-screen showings as a bigger MCU or a Star Wars movie. o.O

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    Ad Astra got moved to May, FYI.

    Climax - *
    Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse - ** 1/2
    Never Look Away - ***


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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Ad Astra got moved to May, FYI.
    Skitch gets the coveted 9th round pick-up. What'll it be, sir?
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***
    The Forbidden Room (Maddin/Johnson, 2015) ***1/2
    Our Little Sister (Koreeda, 2015) ***
    What We Do in the Shadows (Clement/Waititi, 2014) ***1/2

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