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    Ten-Years-Later Match Cut Consensus - 2008

    In conjunction with the 2008 ten-years-later awards, let's also do a countdown of your favorite films from the year. Post a top 10 (IMDb dates) below. I'll count up the votes and give you a top 20-25 (depending on the statistical significance of the results). I will wait to post the results until after the results of the 2008 awards are revealed, so as not to steal thunder.

    Points will be counted using a weighted system:

    1. - 10 pts
    2. - 8 pts
    3. - 7 pts
    4. - 6 pts
    5. - 5 pts
    6. - 4.5 pts
    7. - 4 pts
    8. - 3.5 pts
    9. - 3 pts
    10. - 2.5 pts

    (Weighted system used to give top films a boost, and to minimize the distinction between second tier films.)

    Have at it.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    1. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel)
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    Most difficult year of all the 'aughts for me.

    1. Let the Right One In
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    5. Gomorra
    6. Synecdoche, New York
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    I feel bad about leaving out Historias Extraordinarias (Extraordinary Tales) by my countryman Mariano Llinás, because it's truly one of a kind film. But one of the qualities that inform my criteria the most is rewatchability... and I've never been able to watch all five hours of it in one sitting.

    EDIT: His latest film The Flower is 15 hours long. I refused free tickets for it.

    EDIT 2: I also left out Speed Racer! I can't do this year justice. Martyrs would also be there on any other year.
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    I really took "Favorite" films to heart. This list would be different if it were "Top" films of the year:

    1. Let the Right One In
    2. The Dark Knight
    3. Wall-E
    4. Step Brothers
    5. Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog
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    Ah, the good old favorite vs best argument. Any takers?
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Ah, the good old favorite vs best argument. Any takers?
    Kind of gone to combine the two over the years.

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    Ah, the good old favorite vs best argument. Any takers?
    For me, it's less a matter of favourite versus best than a compromise between intensity of effect (which inevitably wanes with repeat viewings) and inexhaustibility. The only films in my top twelve that I haven't seen more than once are Los Bastardos and La Frontière de l'aube, and given how shocking the Escalante film is, I suspect I'll like it less on second viewing (but still a lot), whereas I'm confident The Headless Woman will hold up on third viewing since, like all of Martel's films, it's a movie that needs to be seen more than once.

    As for people who make a fine distinction between best and favourite, it's always struck me as a cop-out, like they don't want people to criticize them for having shit taste but can't be bothered to put forward an argument for liking the things they like.
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    Can I correct my Top Ten? I'll go right ahead.

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    8. Rachel Getting Married
    9. Redbelt
    10. Burn After Reading
    baby doll, I love Martel (as a person, even) but The Headless Woman literally put me to sleep. I've been unconsciously avoiding Zama because I love the novel and I hear it takes quite a few liberties with it.

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    baby doll, I love Martel (as a person, even) but The Headless Woman literally put me to sleep. I've been unconsciously avoiding Zama because I love the novel and I hear it takes quite a few liberties with it.
    Yeah, it's probably not a film for everyone: The first half is incredibly disorienting, particularly it's never explained that the heroine [
    ], and a second viewing didn't clear everything up, but for me that's part of what keeps the film so fascinating over time--as opposed to even a very good film like Entre les murs, which can be easily understood on first viewing (which is not to say that I didn't enjoy seeing the film a second time).

    I've not yet read the Benedetto novel, but I liked Zama a lot and look forward to seeing it again. It's less disorienting than The Headless Woman (which I've come to regard as Martel's most audacious film to date), but as in all of her films, the exposition is patchy to say the least. It's also her most gruesome.
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    Oh man, I love The Good the Bad the Weird.
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