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Thread: The Cloverfield Paradox (Julius Onah)

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    The Cloverfield Paradox (Julius Onah)

    IMD-- Aah who cares? This is unprecedented. Let's gooooooooo!!

    Last 11 things I really enjoyed:

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    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    It's up! Will be available after the game!!
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    Wow.

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    This movie is 17 shades of fucked up.
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    It's also 17 shades of all over the place. I'd go into more detail but I need sleep.
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    Maniac (Lustig, 1980) 4.5
    Friday The 13th Part V: A New Beginning (Steinmann, 1985) 2
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    Friday The 13th Part VII: The New Blood (Buechler, 1988) 4
    Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (Misumi, 1972) 4.5

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    Quote Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)
    It's also 17 shades of all over the place. I'd go into more detail but I need sleep.
    It is, yet I still dug it I think?

    Reminded me a lot of last year's Life, except, I dunno, I think I liked this one better?

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    Yeah.. It's easily the worst of the three, and way more obviously a square peg of an unrelated movie having been re-engineered and patched up to fit into a Cloverfield-shaped hole than 10 Cloverfield Lane ever was (or generally ever opted to be), but there's maybe also half of a really good and cerebrally compelling movie in there? It's mostly in the first half, sadly, but there is a core of it that's generally interesting and engaging until it begins to fall back and lounge on low-rent B-movie cliches and confusingly rote character beats.

    All I'll say is that it's surprisingly (and with Dan Mindel as DoP, beautifully!) shot on 35mm film, but I noticed pretty much everything that related to the husband character was definitely shot digitally, which in my mind, meant that he was probably all shot after the fact of initial production, which to me only fuels the idea that everything monster-related was tagged on much later, and story-wise, [
    ] Also, the Donal Logue bit.... Yeesh. Even if what he's saying and implying is theoretically cool for the story and series at large, there's on-the-nose and then there's on-your-whole-face-jumping-up-and-down-yelling-"FORESHADOWING!" and then by the end you're not entirely sure why.

    Anyway, I hope this is more of a misstep than a face-plant for the brand going forward, since if the next one really is intended to come soon, and it is truly the cool, rumoured premise, then I hope to see it as quickly as planned.
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    Last 11 things I really enjoyed:

    Speed Racer (Wachowski/Wachowski, 2008)
    Safe (Haynes, 1995)
    South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (Parker, 1999)
    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    They might have rejiggered a few plot points here and there but I think the basic mold was in place a long, long time ago:

    https://variety.com/2016/film/news/j...le-1201750878/

    Anyway, I'd like to point out that:

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    I liked this the most out of the three so far.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    I liked this the most out of the three so far.
    Yeah me too. I think I could rewatch this way more than the first two. I've got it at about a 7.5/10 at the moment. Not without issue or plothole, but cool entry into the Clover-verse.
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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Yeah me too. I think I could rewatch this way more than the first two.
    Same. The first movie is hard to re-watch, though if it was filmed without the found footage, it would probably be the best.

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    Okay so basically everything in space tried to be a Spielbergian spectacle, a body horror film and a gonzo B-movie all at once but it's uneven in its direction, and the story was really convoluted. While the ensemble does well with what it's given, there's nothing to any of the characters, save for Mbatha-Raw's lead. I was honestly more invested in everything happening on Earth, which in my opinion should have been its own movie. The elements of horror that are there are cool; they're just put together in such a disappointing mess.
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    The Wolf Man (Waggner, 1941) 4
    The Exterminating Angel (Buñuel, 1962) 4.5
    Maniac (Lustig, 1980) 4.5
    Friday The 13th Part V: A New Beginning (Steinmann, 1985) 2
    Friday The 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (Hedden, 1989) 3
    Friday The 13th Part VII: The New Blood (Buechler, 1988) 4
    Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (Misumi, 1972) 4.5

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    Kind of in awe at how awful this was.

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    Quote Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)
    Okay so basically everything in space tried to be a Spielbergian spectacle, a body horror film and a gonzo B-movie all at once but it's uneven in its direction, and the story was really convoluted. While the ensemble does well with what it's given, there's nothing to any of the characters, save for Mbatha-Raw's lead. I was honestly more invested in everything happening on Earth, which in my opinion should have been its own movie. The elements of horror that are there are cool; they're just put together in such a disappointing mess.
    I agree with almost all of this---except the Earthbound storyline didn't grab me the same way it did you. [
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
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    I was thinking that as well the first time we returned to that storyline. I'm a bit torn though, in that I both ultimately liked the inclusion of that storyline, yet a part of me thinks the movie would quite possibly work even better had it been entirely omitted.

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    Anyways, the movie is sitting decently with me so far. I think my biggest gripe is in how random a lot of the horror stuff on the ship comes across, with little in the way of rules or logic behind it, though I'm curious if it won't all work better on a rewatch, as parts of it start to sit better with me as I sorta piece the whole thing together in my head. That said, there's a part of me that does wonder if it's even supposed to piece together at all, or if the movie really wasn't just as all over the place as it appeared upon initial viewing.

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    I think my biggest gripe is in how random a lot of the horror stuff on the ship comes across, with little in the way of rules or logic behind it, though I'm curious if it won't all work better on a rewatch, as parts of it start to sit better with me as I sorta piece the whole thing together in my head.
    Gotta say I loved the body horror stuff. The Russian playing with his eyeball in front of the mirror. The Irishman getting his arm stuck in the wall. All of that was terrific.

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    I feel like maybe you all hold the first two in a higher regard than me.
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Gotta say I loved the body horror stuff. The Russian playing with his eyeball in front of the mirror. The Irishman getting his arm stuck in the wall. All of that was terrific.

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    The Russian talking to himself in the other dimension was wonderful.

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    I feel like maybe you all hold the first two in a higher regard than me.
    Probably. I love the first movie, I thought the second one was great outside of the super forced Cloverfield tie-in stuff (I hate that it's titled Cloverfield, and feel that almost takes away from the movie. And everything that happens with the aliens is garbage. Fantastic prior to that, though). This is probably the most all around mixed bag of the three, though I still enjoyed it well enough. Just could've perhaps been a bit tighter I feel.

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    Feel like I watched a different movie than you guys.

    This was so very bad.

    No characyers, no tensions, ATROCIOUS dialogue. Awful awful awful.

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    I liked the characters actually. Plenty of tension. Fine dialog.

    If anything, I was going to nitpick that REAL astronauts are mentally tough enough, to not bicker over things, and use logic in life/death situations.

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    There weren’t characters. There were actors saying exposition. Loved the stereotypes too. Russian guy who didn’t trust Germans. German mad scientist. Religious Latino guy (named “Monk”, no less).

    No tension. Unable to string the “story” together in a meaningful or coherent way.

    This was true DTV garbage.

    Bravo to Netflix for duping the world.

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    Unable to string the “story” together in a meaningful or coherent way.
    See also, Cloverfield & 10 Cloverfield Lane.
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