Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Rian Johnson)

[MadMan]

I will say one thing I didn't like this go-round:

Those three precocious stable kids look like they belong in a Frosted Flakes commercial or something. The lead boy mitigates his annoyingly perfect Central Casting face by underplaying when Rose shows off the Rebellion ring, but then those other two kids give a wide-eyed react like they just slammed a goddamn Capri Sun.

Capri Sun is delicious. Also, I agree.

[Spinal]

Hoo boy, this was bad. Really bad. Most of the dialogue in this movie involves people shouting what is happening in case we're having trouble following it visually. If they're not doing that, they are speaking aloud their motivations, or speaking aloud the motivations of the other person in the scene. Must not leave any space for the audience to have ambiguous feelings or try to interpret something on their own!

Psychic conversations across the galaxy? Astral projections that fight light saber battles? Magic Leia powers that allow her to survive the vacuum of space? Dear God, make it stop.

At least the prequels, dopey as they were, had a breathtaking moment every once in a while to remind you of what these movies could be. This was just straight up boring.

Rogue One is probably the only Star Wars movie made since 1983 that's worth a damn.

[Watashi]

This still might be my favorite Star Wars movie since A New Hope.

[Skitch]

This still might be my favorite Star Wars movie since A New Hope.

Ditto.

[Spinal]

After reading this thread, I'm convinced some of you have lost your minds.

[Skitch]

After reading this thread, I'm convinced some of you have lost your minds.

Ditto.

[Milky Joe]

Must not leave any space for the audience to have ambiguous feelings or try to interpret something on their own!

This is a funny criticism because to me this is the most open-to-interpretation Star Wars movie... ever. Like, easily.

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Me too.

Likewise.

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[transmogrifier]

After reading this thread, I'm convinced some of you have lost your minds.

I always knew you were a good egg, Spinal.

This movie is just a layer of metaness and cinematic allusions (which are really just there to provide an illusion of depth) over top of a very crummy story badly told.

[Peng]

After reading this thread, I'm convinced some of you have lost your minds.

Same, there was that comment (forgot who it was, but it still stuck with me) about what he might do if he met Rian Johnson on the street...

[Morris Schæffer]

Psychic conversations across the galaxy? Astral projections that fight light saber battles? Magic Leia powers that allow her to survive the vacuum of space? Dear God, make it stop.

To the first, I say well, why not? We have seen Leia and Luke "communicating" with each other in the The Empire Strikes Back although it looked sillier in TLJ. About the third one, much has been said about it already. Astral projections is taking force powers too far. Seems they went with a twisty denouement and not realizing that actually putting flesh and blood Luke into the story would have been more engaging. It's not a bad send off he gets, but a bit of a cheat.

I cannot and nor will I ever fathom why some find this better than The Empire Strikes Back.

[Ezee E]

To the first, I say well, why not? We have seen Leia and Luke "communicating" with each other in the The Empire Strikes Back although it looked sillier in TLJ. About the third one, much has been said about it already. Astral projections is taking force powers too far. Seems they went with a twisty denouement and not realizing that actually putting flesh and blood Luke into the story would have been more engaging. It's not a bad send off he gets, but a bit of a cheat.

I cannot and nor will I ever fathom why some find this better than The Empire Strikes Back.

Give it time. It seems like all the new Star Wars movies get raved about initially, only to come down to earth a year later.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Give it time. It seems like all the new Star Wars movies get raved about initially, only to come down to earth a year later.

In fairness, I disliked Awakens from the start.

I do feel like Rogue One hoodwinked me, though.

[Watashi]

I disliked Rogue One upon first watch. I have zero desire to see it again.

I thought Awakens was alright. It's grown stronger on a second viewing.

[Grouchy]

One thing that surprises me about the majority's reaction to both movies is how Rey was embraced as a protagonist while Jyn is rarely championed.

For me Rey is one of the sketchiest, most poorly written leading characters of all time, while every character in Rogue One was at least interesting.

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I haven't found any of the characters in Rogue One even remotely interesting. Jyn is a complete blank who I don't care about at all.

[Grouchy]

And you don't feel that way about Rey? At least Jyn has a backstory and a motivation for doing what she does.

[Pop Trash]

This still might be my favorite Star Wars movie since A New Hope.

It's certainly the best one since Return of the Jedi.

[Pop Trash]

I disliked Rogue One upon first watch. I have zero desire to see it again.

I thought Awakens was alright. It's grown stronger on a second viewing.

I always knew you were a good egg, Wats.

[Morris Schæffer]

It's certainly the best one since Return of the Jedi.

This I could get behind!

[Dukefrukem]

And you don't feel that way about Rey? At least Jyn has a backstory and a motivation for doing what she does.

Rey's backstory is a secret. That's why she's interesting.

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[Skitch]

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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeell no.

[megladon8]

There’s plenty interesting about Rey. She’s awesome.

[Grouchy]

There’s plenty interesting about Rey. She’s awesome.

Please explain to me where this fairly common conception comes from.

[Skitch]

There’s plenty interesting about Rey. She’s awesome.

I agree shes awesome. Her backstory I don't care about though.