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**Spinal** · 11-09-2007, 05:09 PM

Quoting Benny Profane (view post)

Clemens has been suspected for years now.

Yeah, I don't see how Clemens would be a shocker. That actually seems quite likely to me.

**Watashi** · 11-09-2007, 05:14 PM

Boone, Finley, and Lopez should be givens.

**chrisnu** · 11-09-2007, 05:26 PM

Gagne.

**Spinal** · 11-09-2007, 05:33 PM

Todd Jones

**Kurosawa Fan** · 11-09-2007, 05:37 PM

Quoting Spinal (view post)

Todd Jones

That's his enhanced performance???

**Spinal** · 11-09-2007, 05:38 PM

Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)

That's his enhanced performance???

:lol:

**shaun** · 11-09-2007, 06:34 PM

Edge of your seat Chan Ho Park news!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3101211

He hasn’t even been a decent pitcher in 6 years. Obviously a good signing.

Maybe it’s one of those token deals that clubs give out so a player can retire with the club they had most of their success with, like the Emmitt Smith deal… except in this case, it’s for Chan Ho Park.

**chrisnu** · 11-09-2007, 06:37 PM

I HATE OUR FUCKING PITCHING STAFF!!!!! :evil::evil::evil::evil::evil: :evil:

Crock of shit. Try bringing in some real pitchers.

**Raiders** · 11-09-2007, 06:41 PM

Brady Anderson

**Spinal** · 11-09-2007, 06:45 PM

Quoting Raiders (view post)

Brady Anderson

Next thing you'll be telling me that Jose Canseco was juicing.

**MadMan** · 11-09-2007, 07:33 PM

Mitchell needs to stop stalling and just release the damn report already. I'm tired of waiting. How much more time does he need to confirm much of what will go into it? I need a juicy (the pun is un-intentional heh) story coming out of baseball, because the free agent market is pretty weak right now.

**Spinal** · 11-09-2007, 10:00 PM

The Devil Rays are changing to the Rays? Laaaaaaaaaaaame. What a crappy franchise.

**MadMan** · 11-09-2007, 10:18 PM

Quoting Spinal (view post)

The Devil Rays are changing to the Rays? Laaaaaaaaaaaame. What a crappy franchise.

They will always be the Devil Rays to me. Anyways they'll still suck. A name change won't fix that.

**DSNT** · 11-09-2007, 10:29 PM

Quoting MadMan (view post)

Mitchell needs to stop stalling and just release the damn report already. I'm tired of waiting. How much more time does he need to confirm much of what will go into it? I need a juicy (the pun is un-intentional heh) story coming out of baseball, because the free agent market is pretty weak right now.

Oh, it'll be juicy alright, but he'll wait until the end of the year, probably after most of the free agents are done signing.

What I'm wondering is whether Selig will suspend all those named in 2008. That'll make for an interesting first few months of the season.

I forgot about Boone. He's definitely a given.

**MadMan** · 11-09-2007, 10:47 PM

Quoting DSNT (view post)

Oh, it'll be juicy alright, but he'll wait until the end of the year, probably after most of the free agents are done signing.

What I'm wondering is whether Selig will suspend all those named in 2008. That'll make for an interesting first few months of the season.

I forgot about Boone. He's definitely a given.

Oh, I see. Nuts. I think Selig will be forced by public pressure to suspend those named. Although the teams and the players association will have a different opinion, of course.

**Kurosawa Fan** · 11-09-2007, 10:55 PM

Quoting DSNT (view post)

What I'm wondering is whether Selig will suspend all those named in 2008. That'll make for an interesting first few months of the season.

At this point I'm pretty sure he has to. He painted himself into that corner by setting up this investigation. Without suspensions for those proved guilty, what was the purpose of it all? Just to embarrass the athletes? Selig may be slimy, but I'd expect a good portion of those named to get suspensions, especially if they were implicated after 2005.

**soitgoes...** · 11-09-2007, 11:59 PM

Hilarious

Whoever was working the scoreboard should get a high five right before getting canned. Seriously though, this girl had to skip the rest of the semester because she was traumatized by that? Wait until she gets to college and actually picks up an STD, then she'll know trauma.

**shaun** · 11-12-2007, 06:35 PM

Pedroia and Braun win ROY.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Braun edges out Tulo by 2 points. Braun had the better year at the plate obviously but the two are light years apart defensively, enough to give Tulowitzki a much higher WARP.

OPS+
Tulowitzki - 108
Braun - 153

WARP3
Tulowitzki - 10.3
Braun - 4.8

**Ezee E** · 11-12-2007, 06:48 PM

Quoting shaun (view post)

Pedroia and Braun win ROY.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Braun edges out Tulo by 2 points. Braun had the better year at the plate obviously but the two are light years apart defensively, enough to give Tulowitzki a much higher WARP.

OPS+
Tulowitzki - 108
Braun - 153

WARP3
Tulowitzki - 10.3
Braun - 4.8

I'm guessing Prince Fielder will be winning MVP then.

**shaun** · 11-12-2007, 06:54 PM

Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox 24 4 — 132
Delmon Young, Devil Rays 3 12 5 56
Brian Bannister, Royals 1 8 7 36
Daisuke Matsuzaka, Red Sox — 2 6 12
Reggie Willits, Angels — 2 5 11
Hideki Okajima, Red Sox — — 3 3
Josh Fields, White Sox — — 1 1
Joakim Soria, Royals — — 1

Ryan Braun, Brewers 17 14 1 128
Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies 15 17 — 126
Hunter Pence, Astros — — 15 15
Chris Young, Diamondbacks — — 10 10
Kyle Kendrick, Phillies — 1 4 7
Yunel Escobar, Atlanta — — 1 1
James Loney, Dodgers — — 1 1

Okajima gets no respect. Or probably more accurately, middle relievers get no respect. He should have been above Dice for sure.

**soitgoes...** · 11-13-2007, 08:14 AM

Posada signs.

**Kurosawa Fan** · 11-13-2007, 01:31 PM

The Tigers traded INF Omar Infante and cash for OF Jacques Jones. Now, Infante isn't great or anything, but he's a solid sub at almost any position. Meanwhile we got another OF that we don't have room for. Timo Perez showed that he's ready for a full season in the Majors, and then Granderson and Ordonez take the other positions. Plus, we still have Sheffield who can sub out there, as well as Thames. I don't understand this move at all. Where's the bullpen help? I hear we're going to go after Cordero, but that's not a fix. We need some middle relief as well, and some of our "tradeable" players like Infante could be better used solidifying the bullpen.

**Benny Profane** · 11-13-2007, 01:52 PM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

I'm guessing Prince Fielder will be winning MVP then.

I'm thinking he'll place third behind Rollins and Holliday.

**shaun** · 11-13-2007, 02:42 PM

Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)

Timo Perez showed that he's ready for a full season in the Majors

Better late than never I guess.

I can't believe he's actually still around. He was sucking up the Mets' 4th OF position back in 2001 and to still be in the majors at 33 with his skills is pretty impressive.

Posada signs.

That's a lot of money and years for a 38 year old catcher with a career year. I guess they're paying him for past contributions and not future ones.

**Kurosawa Fan** · 11-13-2007, 02:48 PM

Quoting shaun (view post)

That's a lot of money and years for a 38 year old catcher with a career year. I guess they're paying him for past contributions and not future ones.

Yeah, I couldn't be happier about this signing. It'll hurt the Yankees in the long run, and that's music to my ears.

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