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    Deadpool > Thor: Ragnarok

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    The stale third act in Deadpool is much worse than the stale third act in Thor3.
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    Deadpool = Thor: Ragnarok > that precise moment where you have the crashing realization that you have wasted too much time on the Internet yet again after telling yourself a million times that you would be more productive when you had the chance, so you shut down the browser quickly and decisively and mutter recriminations at yourself and promise to do better, but who are you fooling, really?

    I mean, more or less.
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    Mystified at how dressing up a very leaden origin story in self-aware, self-satisfied, dirty humor (which is often amusing to me, I have to add) can make that feel so different to some; the core origin story is still more tired than usual even for this genre, which is a bit made up by the humor somewhat but still not enough. Thor: Ragnarok has a go at the irreverence Deadpool wants, and feel so much more organic and successful.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Deadpool = Thor: Ragnarok > that precise moment where you have the crashing realization that you have wasted too much time on the Internet yet again after telling yourself a million times that you would be more productive when you had the chance, so you shut down the browser quickly and decisively and mutter recriminations at yourself and promise to do better, but who are you fooling, really?

    I mean, more or less.
    You could go watch Wisdom of the Crowd.
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    I laughed in Thor harder and more often than I did Deadpool. Is this a good metric?
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    That's the metric I'm using. I laughed more often and harder during Deadpool, and groaned a lot more during Thor.

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    Yeah, same metric. Deadpool's jokes were often completely out of left field and surreal. In Thor, there were many moments where you could see them coming from miles away.

    It's funny that Deadpool is an "official" satire, but Thor is marketed as a real superhero epic despite being mostly a comedy.

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    Well, we can at least agree that they're both way funnier than Logan.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    I mostly laughed at situations in Ragnarok, not jokes. Way more subtle stuff. Like Goldblum's answer to how old he is, or his two scantily clad minions carrying those enormous ridiculous guns in the background.

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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    I laughed in Thor harder and more often than I did Deadpool. Is this a good metric?
    It depends on the depth of the laugh, I guess?

    I haven't seen Thor yet, but I would say I had deeper laughs at Thor's trailer than I did in Deadpools movie. I snickered a lot at Deadpool though.

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    Quote Quoting Donald Glover
    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    If you grew up in the 90s, Deadpool is funnier.
    Nooooooo!! Not even entirely sure what this means but even as someone who is shamelessly susceptible to '90s nostalgia, I will refute this characterization to my core.

    Deadpool was almost entirely strained and annoying to me.

    Ragnarok, on the other hand, delighted me and made me laugh heartily throughout. (Not to mention it has an actual, awesome visual imagination, whereas Deadpool is mostly a gray and red bore of concrete landscapes.) On fun-factor alone it's one if my very favourite of the MCU.
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    Quote Quoting Henry Gale (view post)
    Nooooooo!! Not even entirely sure what this means but even as someone who is shamelessly susceptible to '90s nostalgia, I will refute this characterization to my core.

    Deadpool was almost entirely strained and annoying to me.

    Ragnarok, on the other hand, delighted me and made me laugh heartily throughout. (Not to mention it has an actual, awesome visual imagination, whereas Deadpool is mostly a gray and red bore of concrete landscapes.) On fun-factor alone it's one if my very favourite of the MCU.
    Because 90% of the jokes were from the 90s.
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    Saw this last night - definitely the most straight up FUN I've had with the MCU yet. What a delight from start to finish. Such an unapologetic romp, loved it. I'm pretty sure this will wind up in my blu-ray collection, with a drinking game concocted shortly thereafter. Why, I'm already coming up with some rules.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Because 90% of the jokes were from the 90s.
    Hmmm. I suppose this would require remembering them, which I'm not sure I do.

    I remember "Shoop"! (Is also the equivalent effort of its attempts at gags.)
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    I don't really remember it having a lot of 90s references. I thought most of the jokes were current pop culture jokes (Jared Fogle, other superhero movies, etc).
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    I saw this about two weeks ago. I know I laughed. I know I was entertained. And the 3D effects were actually quite bearable.

    Like the rest of Marvel's stuff, it did not otherwise leave much of an impression on me.
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    This was a fun, hilarious and near great sequel. I am reminded of how the third Iron Man was a leg up from the second film. Loved the cameos, too, and Goldblum stole the film.
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    I grew up in the 90s and liked both Deadpool and Thor 3. Both have different styles of humor.
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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)
    I grew up in the 90s and liked both Deadpool and Thor 3. Both have different styles of humor.
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    Are the RT forums history? I can no longer see them.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Yes.
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    Really? You have this from good authority? Was there an announcement at all?
    A few weeks ago there was a bunch of people posting about it on Facebook. I never bothered to follow up.
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    This movie was fun and fairly on point with its character development and payoffs - something like Skurge's arc is slight and obvious but also clear and honest to his character and what we know of him. It's similarly predictable but satisfying to watch Loki return in the final act.

    I wanted more Hela, and more Hela interacting with people of consequence. Also, Cate Blanchett in this movie is stunningly attractive. Maybe she could've grown beyond her function as the latest in the long line of galactic despots. That element of Marvel bothers me in the same way its overreliance on humor bothers other people. I'm just so damn bored of intergalactic despots who want to OWN THE UNIVERSE. Jesus, they're dull, and a huge part of why I'm not interested in Thanos at all.

    Taika's sensibilities give the film a boost, but it also gets in the way of emotional beats that could've been, y'know, effectively emotional, like Thor watching his home get destroyed. Instead, Korg makes a crack about the foundations (a joke with a rhythm taken straight from the car explosion in Groundhog Day), and I guess we're supposed to laugh in that moment.

    Agreed with number8 that it's super-weird that Thor has no perspective on his longtime friends dying, but maybe that's because the previous two films haven't really been good at integrating them into the stories or making them memorable, and anyway this film replaces all of them (and Jane) with Tessa Thompson's charming Valkyrie.

    Nobody at the end of the film comments on whether or not Hulk can change back into Banner when that's a huge part of his final choice. I think they needed an epilogue beat with him dealing with the possibility that Banner may never come back, and reconciling that with his decision to go Hulk to stop Fenrir.
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