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    Mindhunter

    There’s no way I’m the only one here watching this...
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    I binged it last weekend

    It's good, albeit a little repetitive. The cast is ace and I kept watching for them, for their chemistry, and to see how certain subplots would play out.

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    Yeah, it's better than I expected. Actually, it's not at all what I expected. I wasn't even interested when I saw the trailers, and started it on a lark because I was home sick. Ended up watching the whole season. Lots of cliches abound, and the investigation episodes are just souped up (cabled up?) Criminal Minds, but what I liked:

    - It's worth mentioning that it's unique how it has practically zero on-screen violence. Considering the unsavory subject, I believe this made it much easier to binge than it would have been otherwise. It manages to be extremely creepy in parts without being grotesque.

    - Pleasantly surprised by how much it talks about how this type of crime are typically unique to ideas of masculinity. I got a chuckle out of him having to explain to a classroom of kids that statistically only boys become disturbed individuals. And it's funny that there's a whole significant subplot about whether or not it's ok to use the word "cunt."

    - Groff is terrific in this. I thought I knew what his character type is (the off-kilter, intellectual cop pursuing beyond procedure), but seeing the way he subtly morphs throughout the season is fantastic. I knew the "I can't let these guys rub off on me" line early on would be foreshadowing, I just didn't expect it to be handled so smartly. To tie it to my previous two points, I think this is a result of centering the show on misogyny, rather than violent acts. A lesser show would just have him become more violent or sociopathic, rather than just crass and contemptuous.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Also -- per creepiness and exploitation -- I liked how they contrasted the whole school principal subplot against everything else that was going on, and kept that going for a few episodes.

    That whole thing made my skin crawl and I kept thinking about it and none of it is exploitative.

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    Ok, I'll add it to my queue.

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    First episode. So far so good.

    Scaled down Fincher still looks good.

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    Finished this last night.

    Incredible stuff from start to finish.

    The cast is incredible across the board. The two leads have such great chemistry.

    I want season 2 now.

    Also, we all know who Dennis is, right?
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    First episode. So far so good.

    Scaled down Fincher still looks good.
    Second episode. Now I'm totally in. The scenes with Edmund Kemper... What an actor. I seeked out info on Kemper afterward, and it's scary how some of the dialog is lifted straight from the interview, and how well the actor mirrored Kemper.

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    Yeah, Kemper was the show stealer for me.

    The other interviews are great too but he was just incredible.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    Watched the first three episodes last night. Fantastic. Love the affected dialog. It's weird how the show seems to drift in and out of the hardboiled detective genre and a more straight forward crime-drama piece. Really liking it so far.

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    4 and 5.

    This will be the first Netflix show I finish an entire season of, I believe.

    Literally got goosebumps at the end of the fifth episode.

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    https://vimeo.com/239193453

    ^ "Breakdown reel showcasing David Fincher's invisible visual effects in the Netflix Original Series Mindhunter."

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    The first episode of this was so bad we couldn't continue.
    ‎The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.

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    Quote Quoting Milky Joe (view post)
    The first episode of this was so bad we couldn't continue.
    What did you find unwatchable? I've seen this reaction---couldn't get past the first episode---from a few people so I'm curious.

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    Only subplot I'm not digging happens around episode 7 with the teacher deal. Kind of eyeroll worthy. Hoping it's a one episode deal.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Only subplot I'm not digging happens around episode 7 with the teacher deal. Kind of eyeroll worthy. Hoping it's a one episode deal.
    Agree that it was a bit off kilter to the rest of the show, but it has payoff.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    Quote Quoting Milky Joe (view post)
    The first episode of this was so bad we couldn't continue.
    I don’t understand.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    ???? The school subplot is fucking great. Like Irish said, it's deeply unsettling. What.
    Quote Quoting Donald Glover
    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    What did you find unwatchable? I've seen this reaction---couldn't get past the first episode---from a few people so I'm curious.
    It was the horrendous dialogue and terrible acting from everybody involved, mostly, but the episode also felt so meandering and pointless overall that I didn't have one iota of desire to see where it went.
    ‎The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.

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    I still just don’t understand.

    The dialogue is great and the acting is top notch start to finish.
    I'm not being dramatic, I just feel like I'm going to throw up my heart and my head is going to fly away like a bird.

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    Quote Quoting Milky Joe (view post)
    It was the horrendous dialogue and terrible acting from everybody involved, mostly, but the episode also felt so meandering and pointless overall that I didn't have one iota of desire to see where it went.
    the dialog and acting switches between the crime-drama genre and hard boiled detective genre. It's almost Mametesque sometimes in its cadence and rhythm, especially in the bar in the first episode. While watching that scene I told my wife that I couldn't quite figure out if it was bad or an affected stylistic choice. Turns out is the later and this becomes readily apparent in the series.

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    I love Tench. The actor is incredible.

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    Welp, finished it all. The final episode comes across pretty "TV-ish" with some subplots that try to wrap themselves up faster than it needed to be. There's a lot of convenient things that just come out of nowhere here, but the rest of the show was so damn good that I don't want to harmonize on it much.

    Plus, the Kansas killer simply being an opener and closer for the show without ever being mentioned is a device that I can't think has ever been used.

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    Yeah, BTK's inclusion is really effective in selling the atmosphere, but it is a bit bizarre. Given that the guy wasn't caught until the 21st century, it's unlikely to lead anywhere. I'm not sure what the intent was, but I dug it.
    Quote Quoting Donald Glover
    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    I love Tench. The actor is incredible.
    Holt McCallany is great, but this character does nothing for me. He has what I thought was the worse scene on the show, the "You want me to bring my work home?" scene. I get that it's yet another examination of masculinity that's supposed to be in contrast to Holden's dynamic with his home life, but it's such a dumb cliche.
    Quote Quoting Donald Glover
    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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