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    Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (Quentin Tarantino)

    ...Currently rumored to be about the Manson murders?

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    My initial instinct is that this may not be a good idea. But he's successfully navigated tricky terrain before, so we'll see. In Django, he sided with a freed slave. With Basterds, he put us on the side of Nazi-killers. Hopefully he'll find a way to similarly make this palatable.
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    Twist: Manson family survives, goes on to plan a jewel heist.

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    Tarantino movie not a western? Sweet.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Tarantino movie not a western? Sweet.
    That's my reaction too.

    Obviously, no idea of the kind of approach he's taking here. Is he doing it in his supposed "real world" that Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs take place in, or his "movie world" of Kill Bill and Basterds?

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    Saying that, I almost forgot about Hateful Eight. Wow...

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    Hateful Eight is a great film. I don't know what quality of cinema you watch on a daily basis, Ezee, but even if it's not an instant classic, it's better than 95% of what I get to see.

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    Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate apparently. Not 100% final but it's who they want.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    That's my reaction too.

    Obviously, no idea of the kind of approach he's taking here. Is he doing it in his supposed "real world" that Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs take place in, or his "movie world" of Kill Bill and Basterds?
    I thought Basterds was supposed to be in his "real world".

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    My initial instinct is that this may not be a good idea. But he's successfully navigated tricky terrain before, so we'll see. In Django, he sided with a freed slave. With Basterds, he put us on the side of Nazi-killers. Hopefully he'll find a way to similarly make this palatable.
    Wouldn't it have been trickier if he had put us on the side of the nazis?

    I guess what I'm saying is 'please define tricky?'
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    I fully enjoyed his western entries, but I'd prefer he moves to a more modern setting.

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Hateful Eight is a great film. I don't know what quality of cinema you watch on a daily basis, Ezee, but even if it's not an instant classic, it's better than 95% of what I get to see.
    I like it too. Just kept thinking Django was his last movie.

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    Aaaah ok.

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Aaaah ok.
    I think I was initially mixed. I've grown to like it more over time, but I don't think it compares to Django/Bill/Basterds at all.

    I'm wondering if Hateful Eight is a new transition for character-focused stories.

    Res / Pulp / Jackie
    Bill / Basterds / Django
    Hateful Eight is next??

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    Well, he seems to be liking his movies to take place in closed quarters more and more, which would fit the Manson story.

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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    Wouldn't it have been trickier if he had put us on the side of the nazis?

    I guess what I'm saying is 'please define tricky?'
    Certain subject matter can be unpleasantly exploitative and tasteless if the artist does not find the correct angle. Tarantino has mostly avoided this trap in the past, which is why I am giving him the benefit of the doubt here.
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    Certain subject matter can be unpleasantly exploitative and tasteless if the artist does not find the correct angle. Tarantino has mostly avoided this trap in the past, which is why I am giving him the benefit of the doubt here.

    Ah yes agreed of course.
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    QT wants Pitt and J Lawrence.
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    • Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood (Tarantino, 2019) ♦♦♦½ [-]
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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Well, he seems to be liking his movies to take place in closed quarters more and more, which would fit the Manson story.
    I would be very disappointed if the movie is just confined to the incident at Polanski's house.
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    Brad Pitt as Manson is some weird casting.

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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    I would be very disappointed if the movie is just confined to the incident at Polanski's house.
    Good subject matter for a James Ellroy-style crime epic.

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    I would hope they don't reenact the murders at all if this gets made. The word "Pig" getting written on a wall in a pregnant woman's blood is not something I need in my life as entertainment.

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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    I would be very disappointed if the movie is just confined to the incident at Polanski's house.
    Same here but it does seem to fit Quentin's recent trademarks. Personally, I'm more interested in Winston's Ellroy reference - the Manson murders are a great backdrop for the portrait of an era in American culture.

    By the way, has anyone seen the fictional films already made about this subject? There are surprisingly not that many of them.

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    Saw part of the Jeremy Davies one on TV. Terrible. I am more weary of this subject matter than previous Tarantino movies. There is the potential there to glamorise Charles Manson, when in reality he's just pathetic creep who took advantage of some very vulnerable people.

    Good related reading on the subject, and a great book in general, is the chapter on Leslie Van Houten in John Waters' Role Models.

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