Spider-Man: Homecoming (Jon Watts)

[Irish]

In the movie's defense, the whole 'with great power comes great responsibility' angle... is played the fuck out.

That's true, at least in the ostentatious way it's been played before. But this version didn't have an "Uncle Ben" moment---the moment where Peter realizes that, gee, maybe he shouldn't be in this solely for himself---until the last 10 minutes and it sorely needed it.

I guess my bigger problem is that outside Tony calling him to the carpet, he doesn't face any responsibility. None of the characters hold him accountable, even for minor things like ditching out of a party or skipping the Decathlon (I think he gets detention, which he skips out on immediately and, again, nobody gives a shit.) This felt a little weird in a high school movie where a powerful adult shows up every 20 minutes, like clockwork.

For me, the lack of responsibility made his change of heart at the end of the movie feel false and unearned. I liked what they were going for, but I don't think they did it well.

It's like, gee, how enormously fucking big of you, Peter. You're choosing not to be a YouTube star. What a hero.

[Skitch]

Wow. I'll rewatch to reevaluate, but gut reaction after first watch says the is only worse Spider-Man movie than this is Amazing Spider-Man 2. Not that this is garbage, but its just bland vanilla nothing. Kinda surprised Marvel fan gives this Vulture take a pass as its bares almost no resemblance to the comic book character I think I know. Keaton is cool, but I don't recall Vulture being Robo-thief.

[Wryan]

It's like, gee, how enormously fucking big of you, Peter. You're choosing not to be a YouTube star. What a hero.

It's 2017. That is heroic!

[Irish]

This might be the movie the cured me of Marvel. Whenever I think about maybe seeing "Ragnarok" or "Avengers III," I remember this film and my interest just dies.

[DavidSeven]

I really don't know how to personally rate or rank these things anymore. They are all so samesie in structure and look. The jokes-per-minute directive is always followed, so it always sort of feels like the same kind of experience, even if it is a consistently entertaining one. No one is going to write an interesting film essay deconstructing this thing, but whatever, as pure entertainment, it's pretty good, I guess.

[Dukefrukem]

Everyone keeps saying these MCU movies are the same. And excluding Iron Man and Doctor Strange here, how is this movie the same as all the other movies?

[Philip J. Fry]

'Twas fine. Holland is a good Spidey and Keaton is a good addition here. Also I really enjoyed Peter's buddy finding out and being the sidekick, though I wish the movie hand't leaned so much into the Tony + the Avengers thing so much. I get it's part of the Marvel formula and shit, but it makes Peter feel secondary in his own freaking movie. Average movie all the way.