The Punisher (Season 1)

[Dukefrukem]

I watched the first episode last night. And I really liked it. But that was just 1 episode. I am hoping for a cool and calculated Frank Castle for the entire season.

[number8]

He's a much friendlier, jokier, and emotional Frank than any of the other Punisher portrayals that came before. I don't mind it at all, it gives him a more definable personality, but I'm sure plenty of fans do. It is a bit weird watching The Punisher screaming when he's shooting and psyching himself up first before going into battle, and just generally being so talky.

I think the show wants to portray him more as an overwhelmed underdog than a killing machine.

[Irish]

I watched the first episode last night. And I really liked it. But that was just 1 episode. I am hoping for a cool and calculated Frank Castle for the entire season.

I enjoyed the first episode. It was a complete story with some minor stakes and a nice re-introduction to the character.

But I tapped out around the third or fourth episode because [

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the plot immediately dived into some bullshit about layered conspiracies and who really killed Frank's family. I couldn't be more tired of storylines like this. It's two bit storytelling and reminiscent of a dozen bad 90s action movies.

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[number8]

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the plot immediately dived into some bullshit about layered conspiracies and who really killed Frank's family. I couldn't be more tired of storylines like this. It's two bit storytelling and reminiscent of a dozen bad 90s action movies.

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That's the thing that made it so obvious that this show was unplanned and was put together hastily because of Bernthal's breakout popularity as the character. [

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They already told Frank's origin story and gave him a resolution it in Daredevil S2, but they had to add a bunch of layers to the doublecross just so they can retell the same origin without negating the one they've told. It's not just cliched, it's a really lazy retread. The most interesting parts of the show are the ones that have nothing to do with it (the Madani character, and the PTSD veteran, Micro's family, and the kid in the completed story in the first ep you mentioned).

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The first ep had me hoping it could be a crime version of Twilight Zone where you follow a sympathetic criminal story and at the end the "twist" is that they all run into Frank somehow. Alas.

[Irish]

That's the thing that made it so obvious that this show was unplanned and was put together hastily because of Bernthal's breakout popularity as the character. [

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They already told Frank's origin story and gave him a resolution it in Daredevil S2, but they had to add a bunch of layers to the doublecross just so they can retell the same origin without negating the one they've told. It's not just cliched, it's a really lazy retread. The most interesting parts of the show are the ones that have nothing to do with it (the Madani character, and the PTSD veteran, Micro's family, and the kid in the completed story in the first ep you mentioned).

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YES! Exactly! Holy shit, I thought that was so weird.

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I couldn't understand---or really involve myself with---their retelling of the origin story. It felt weird that this guy has his own dedicated show now but with a key part of his background is resolved.

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Also, gotta mention from the first episode:

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I particularly liked the dude who's running the veteran's support group, and how Frank initially hung around outside and listened in but didn't walk into the room. That spoke volumes to me about who the character was and where his head was at and it didn't require outsize violence or base melodramatics.

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[Skitch]

I'm on ep4 or 5. So far its interesting, but not freaking out about it.