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    "Fuck Gene Kelly, you MOTHERFUCKER!"

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    Holy crap. Absolutely riveting episode. Love that feeling of things ramping up.
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    Yeah, this week seems downright straightforward and crowdpleasing, coming after the last three. Old places and faces galore, plots moving forward, chilling moments (the figure moving in the background of a phone call scene is pure horror), storylines connecting. What a gripping episode. Love that even in the midst of a violent assassination attempt Naomi Watt's Janey-E didn't slow down one bit.
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    Quote Quoting Peng (view post)
    Yeah, this week seems downright straightforward and crowdpleasing, coming after the last three. Old places and faces galore, plots moving forward, chilling moments (the figure moving in the background of a phone call scene is pure horror), storylines connecting. What a gripping episode. Love that even in the midst of a violent assassination attempt Naomi Watt's Janey-E didn't slow down one bit.
    In one episode, we got ...

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    Keep it coming, David.
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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    One thing that I found curious about this revival is that, despite Lynch's reputation for ambiguous, hard to understand plot... he actually delivers all the pay-offs you'd expect from a sequel. He just doesn't do with them what you'd expect him to do and so adds another question at the same time that he's giving you an answer, which might be Lynch on a nutshell.

    - Reveal what happened to Cooper during the last 25 years in the Black Lodge? Check, but at the same time there are two guys with Cooper's face out there in the real world.
    - Bring back Cooper? Check, but he's brain damaged.
    - Show us a face to face with Diane? Check, but she's an alcoholic bitch who's rude to everybody instead of the nice lady you'd expect from Cooper's audio messages.

    It's like anti fan service.

    I also love how he takes his time to explain Harry S. Truman's uncomfortable absence from the show. That shows he's aware that people used to care deeply about even the minor characters.

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    I've been super impressed by how Lynch and Frost have worked around the absence of certain actors while still keeping their characters 'alive' in the world of the show, notably BOB, The Arm, Garland Briggs and Harry. Only Donna Hayward's absence seems kind of odd right now, although I imagine we'll get info on her eventually.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Spinal, excellent episode, but you forgot to mention the dude sweeping the floor of The Bang Bang Bar while Booker T & the MGs' Green Onions played in the background.

    For 5 minutes.

    And it was my favorite scene. I love David Lynch.
    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    Spinal, excellent episode, but you forgot to mention the dude sweeping the floor of The Bang Bang Bar while Booker T & the MGs' Green Onions played in the background.

    For 5 minutes.

    And it was my favorite scene. I love David Lynch.
    Yes, it was strangely effective in making the subsequent phone call seem even more disturbing, contrasted with the banal routine of tidying up the debris from an evening of locals out having a good time. Here is this place where most of the community seems to gather to drink, socialize and listen to suspiciously hip musical acts. And yet, a generation after Laura Palmer, the same man who serves them their beers is running an underage prostitution ring right under their noses.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Showtime President and CEO David Nevins says, The version of Twin Peaks youre going to see is the pure heroin version of David Lynch.
    So that's what he meant.

    I think the twitternet machine is going to blow up over "Part 8" of Lynch's..uh..whatever that was.

    Unbelievable.
    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    Ha! Recap THAT internet.

    Next level. Lynch just went 2001: A Space Odyssey.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Seriously though, I think the middle nuclear test section through the giant sequence is pretty easy to interpret if you know the show. I cannot say the same about the last sequence.
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    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    I think the last sequence had to do with how the manifestation of evil spread. I also think that winged creature was the first incarnation of BOB.
    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    "This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full, and descend.
    The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within."


    There is a story behind this quote that I just read about, concerning a website that is no longer online. This shit just keeps on getting weirder and weirder.
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    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    Next level. Lynch just went 2001: A Space Odyssey.
    The whole time I was thinking "what if 2001 but with the utter horror of Mulholland Dr's diner scene???!!!"

    Have to think if this or Season 2's finale is my favorite of the show. Both so out-of-this-world mind-bending.

    The frog and the girl have to lead to the Palmers somehow. I looked up on Twin Peaks wiki and Sarah was born on 1945(!!), the same year as the bomb. I wondered if she was the golden ball that then was born and will lead to Laura (as shown inside the ball) someday, and the frog... ok I haven't thought this through, but it's intriguing nonetheless. The mentions a horse, and its whinnying sound too... wonder if it's the same one that Sarah saw.

    This show, man.
    Midnight Run (1988) - 9
    The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) - 8.5
    The Adventures of Robinhood (1938) - 8
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    So many depictions of mushroom clouds are taken from a distance and knowingly or not communicate a kind of wonder and awe. They make it seem almost beautiful.

    I greatly appreciated how different this was. Appropriately horrifying.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    So many depictions of mushroom clouds are taken from a distance and knowingly or not communicate a kind of wonder and awe. They make it seem almost beautiful.

    I greatly appreciated how different this was. Appropriately horrifying.
    Well-said. I watched almost the entire episode open-mouthed and jaw-dropped.

    God bless Showtime for having the courage to air this insanity.
    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    HELLOOOOOOOO.

    I just started watching so I'm not caught up yet (I've now seen the first four episodes) and so I also haven't read more than the first twenty or so posts of the thread. Just wanted to drop by with some quick impressions though (I'll try to get caught up this week). Basically, I love it. I'm completely obsessed. The show has quickly wormed its way into my mind and I can't stop thinking about it. I don't think anything else I've seen this year, TV or cinema or whatever, has engaged me like this, had me on the edge of my seat and just totally enraptured. What a trip!

    The third episode is so fascinating and strange. I can't decide what I enjoyed more, the abstract editing of the otherworldly purple room, or Coop's casino adventures. The first part is creepy and unsettling, the other laugh out loud funny. As a single hour of television, the contrast between these strange adventures is incredible and makes them both richer.

    The fourth episode I've watched maybe three times in a row and is my favorite episode so far. Basically, I'm not caught up yet because I got stuck with this one on repeat. Talking about contrasts, how about Coop as Dougie and the interrogation with Mr. C? Kyle MacLachlan is winning all the awards, right? His performance here is my favorite thing ever. I love how so much of this feels like Lynch and Frost giving a middle finger to fan expectations, and I can't get over how they have taken Cooper and turned him into an automaton that mimics famous character traits. When he gives his first thumbs up of the season, and then turns and stares out the window, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. (And, of course, always with the powerful contrasts, Cole later realizes something is wrong when Mr. C delivers something of an uncanny valley thumbs up). Coop in the kitchen trying to navigate his way through Dougie's morning routine, and getting triggered by a mug of coffee (complete with one of the first Badalamenti cues of the season?) is already one of my favorite Twin Peaks scenes ever. And the interrogation of Mr. C is probably up there, too. Oh, and the last scene between Cole and Albert (hell, every scene... "There they are, Albert. Faces of stone.")... fuck, this episode was incredible.

    Lynch and Frost are so good at building all the small details into an episode, too, that rewatching them before moving on has been extremely rewarding. From small elements of set design (I didn't see the owl cookie jar in the kitchen on my first watch, those sneaky bastards) to more blatant clues (Mr. C actually starts talking backwards in the interrogation scene, which... how the hell did I miss something like that on my first viewing???), this season has been rich in narrative and mystery and intrigue and has delivered so much incredible material in only four episodes.

    I'm surprised how many Phillip Jeffries references we've gotten, too. Making me really sad that Bowie never got to film anything.
    Giving up in 2020. Who cares.

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    I'm excited for Stay Puft to get caught up and add his thoughts on the last few episodes.

    I've been thinking a lot about Lynch's use of pacing (in collaboration with his editor). I greatly admire how willing he is to allow us to live in a moment without rushing it or providing extra filler. Everything is super-concentrated, distilled down to the essential. Often we are left in a state of unknowing, and sadly, I think this is where some viewers get impatient and declare that 'nothing is happening'. Banging on a metal door. Scribbles on case files. Methodical sweeping of the floor.

    At the very beginning of The Secret History of Twin Peaks, Mark Frost talks about how mystery stimulates wonder. And how wonder gets our brains activated, trying to sort out a why. It's very clear that Lynch has the same M.O. I suspect it's why these episodes linger so strongly in the brain (at least in mine). Lynch gets a reputation as an impenetrable director, but I find him to be highly respectful of his audience.

    If you wanted someone to be able to piece together a puzzle, you wouldn't rush through the list of clues. You would describe each piece vividly, you would take your time with each moment and you would allow the information to sink into that person's mind.

    One of the fascinating things I've discovered is that when I rewatch episodes, the pacing actually feels a bit quicker. I have more information. I'm less impatient. I am able to make connections and understand more of the subtle touches.

    Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I think Lynch has made me realize that a lot of entertainment has trained its viewers to expect a constant stream of easily accessible information. I think of Aaron Sorkin, for example. And so often that information is of little consequence or doesn't stimulate much inner change because we haven't been asked to go on any sort of journey to attain it.
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    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    What in the flying fuck...

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    One of the fascinating things I've discovered is that when I rewatch episodes, the pacing actually feels a bit quicker. I have more information. I'm less impatient. I am able to make connections and understand more of the subtle touches.
    Definitely. It's unquestionable that this show is designed to be watched more than once. Scenes that felt aimless or completely inscrutable on a first viewing become much more clear on a second viewing. And like you said, even when it feels like nothing is happening, there's usually something going on under the surface. Lynch is a far more intentional director than most give him credit for being.
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    Just rewatched Episode 8, this time with headphones on. Highly recommended.

    If anything, watching it with some sense of orientation just drives home for me how astonishing this episode is. I wonder how impactful it will be on television in general, considering it relies on show-specific iconography and context. But what strikes me is that if you have followed the show and paid attention, the communication of information is somehow simultaneously unfamiliar and yet utterly clear. A story unfolds in images that could not be expressed fully with words. Masterful.

    I was so flabbergasted the first time that I completely missed the relevance of the 'convenience store' and it's connection back to Fire Walk with Me.

    Other thing that I didn't completely register the first time around: the sounds made by the woman in the car after the woodsman first asks for a light. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I encourage you to go back and watch that with headphones on. That sound design ... man, oh man.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    I can't stop thinking about the woodsman in the context of authoritarianism: forced traffic stop, intimidation, media manipulation, violence behind closed doors. His seductive phrase, repeated over and over again, almost religious in nature. It puts the populace into a state of hibernation while elsewhere innocence is corrupted (the girl and the egg creature).
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Holy fucking shit, this show. I feel like that episode was a culmination of everything Lynch has been trying to convey for the 30+ years. Bravura shit bruh.

    I think Naomi Watts has been the MVP so far, such a great twist on the "shrill wife" stereotype.

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    MVP for me is McLachlan, but special points awarded to the Ferrer/Lynch duo. Every scene with them together makes me crack up.

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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (No, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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