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    I really liked 20th Century Women and am a little bummed about Annette Bening not getting a nomination, but also I don't really care and don't think I can bring myself to watch La La Land.
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    Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy - (Ryusuke Hamaguchi, 2021) - 7
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    The Power of the Dog (Jane Campion, 2021) - 9
    Don't Look Up - (Adam McKay, 2021) - 4
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    Went to see the live action shorts last night. One of them, "Silent Nights," is one of the worst things I've ever seen. I was gagging throughout. Every year there's always one issue driven short that's wildly tone deaf as it's trying to lecture people, but this one is just particularly awful.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    Went to see the live action shorts last night. One of them, "Silent Nights," is one of the worst things I've ever seen. I was gagging throughout. Every year there's always one issue driven short that's wildly tone deaf as it's trying to lecture people, but this one is just particularly awful.
    Yeah, Indiewire is predicting that one as the frontrunner, but it's melodramatic as hell.

    My favorites were Enemies Within and Timecode, with The Woman and the TGV not far behind it.

    EDIT: I keep going back and forth on the last two.
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    I thought The Woman and the TGV was bad. Haven't seen any of the others yet.
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    I'm definitely rooting for Timecode. Enemies Within is very well done and superbly acted, but hits all the expected notes, both in messaging and structure. If you've seen a few of that type of interrogation-based two-man plays, it follows the typical trajectory of that Sidney Lumet style winner-loser reversals all the way to the end.

    Timecode is delightfully weird and joyous not just in premise, but also in how it escalates and leaves off. Love the final line.
    Quote Quoting Donald Glover
    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Here are my choices so far.

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    La La Land winning only 5 awards would be the biggest Oscar surprise ever.

    I expect it to win a minimum of eight. BUT I do predict Moonlight to win Best Picture because of the whole "ranked" approach.

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    Awful lighting in La La Land? Wut? o.O

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    Quote Quoting TGM (view post)
    Awful lighting in La La Land? Wut? o.O
    Yup. The opening scene especially, as great as it was on a choreography level, had terrible lighting. I guess that's what you get when you use natural sunlight. But one minute, everyone has shadows on their faces, the camera spins around, and everything is bright. It's obnoxious.

    Also, the film flipflops back and forth between Singing in the Rain tones and In Follows tones. It's bizarre. Sometimes it looks like a horror movie (the entire scene and song where Emma Stone's friends are convincing her to go out and party and their dancing in the street and shit).
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    I think the Costume nom is the oddest one. The actresses are all wearing different colored modern dresses. NOMINATION.

    Meanwhile movies with heavy details in their costumes like Rogue One, Silence, Hacksaw Ridge... Overlooked.

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    No need to fight. I think we can all agree that La La Land is not a good movie and doesn't deserve to win anything.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    If you hear a long, plaintive wail during the ceremony, that will be me as Eric Heisserer wins Best Fucking Adapted for Arrival.

    (Otherwise, it looks more and more likely that La La Land will win everything else.)

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    Personally, I think Arrival is probably the least likely to win that category. I could make a case for any of the others, but I have a hard time imagining a scenario in which that one wins.
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    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
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    Arrival won the WGA for Adapted.

    Plus, there's the Irish Rule for the Oscars: Any movie that (1) I don't like and (2) is nominated for a writing award will (3) undoubtably win its category.

    This has happened so often over the last 10 years that I'm convinced it's God's little way of fucking with me.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Arrival won the WGA for Adapted.
    Did it really?! Well there you go. There's the case for it.

    I'm thinking Lion as a dark horse, as it's not just writers voting and the Academy tends to favor straightforward, heart-tugging emotion.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    PICTURE - Moonlight
    *La La Land takedown has been running since December. It works with the ranked system.

    DIRECTOR - Damian Chazelle
    *With that, La La Land cleans up in nearly everything else since it's a normal ballot after that.

    ACTOR - Denzel Washington
    ACTRESS - Emma Stone
    SUPPORTING ACTOR - Dev Patel
    SUPPORTING ACTRESS - Viola Davis
    *Supporting noms that are actually leads take the win.

    ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY - Manchester by the Sea
    ADAPTED SCREENPLAY - Moonlight

    COSTUME DESIGN - Jackie
    SOUND MIXING - Hacksaw Ridge
    MAKEUP - Star Trek: Beyond
    VISUAL EFFECTS - The Jungle Book

    EDITING - La La Land
    PRODUCTION DESIGN - La La Land
    SOUND EDITING - La La Land
    SONG - "City of Stars" La La Land
    SCORE - La La Land
    CINEMATOGRAPHY - La La Land

    ANIMATED - Kubo and the Two Strings
    FOREIGN FILM - The Salesman
    DOCUMENTARY - OJ Simpson: Made in America
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    If my predictions pan out, this will be a BORING show.

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    La La Land sweeps all except Best Actor.
    Sure why not?

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    If my predictions pan out, this will be a BORING show.
    Between Kimmel, Trump speeches, patting themselves on the back for increased diversity and the inevitable La La Land sweep, I'm not sure this one will be much fun.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    Between Kimmel, Trump speeches, patting themselves on the back for increased diversity and the inevitable La La Land sweep, I'm not sure this one will be much fun.
    The Trump speeches are going to make this horrible I think.

    Curious what Kimmel will do. Hopefully there's at least a good filmed bit at the beginning and one solid Damon joke.

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    I forgot Kimmel was doing this. Ugh. At least it's not Fallon.
    Sure why not?

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    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
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    Speeches in SGA awards are pretty good, but I can see adjusting from an all-actors award show to Oscar being not as fiery or entertainingly enthusiastic.
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