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    Are we supposed to know what those names/titles are referencing?

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    Are we supposed to know what those names/titles are referencing?
    Oh, aren't those all the Season 2 episode titles?

    Which would mean nine episodes instead of eight this time around. Hope it only improves with the extra time!
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    Oh, aren't those all the Season 2 episode titles?

    Nine episodes instead of eight this time around. Hope it can only improve!
    Oh. I thought they hadn't written Season 2 yet so assumed they wouldn't have episode titles.

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    I didn't think they wrote Season 2 yet either.

    That seems oddly convenient.

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    Netflix generally orders two seasons of a show, not one, so showrunners are encouraged to think big, but they withhold the Season Two announcements depending on reception to Season One.

    I think.

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    Netflix will spend $5 billion on content this year.

    Everything they produce is guaranteed multiple seasons.

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    That's ridiculous. $5 billion?! Seriously? They make that much money without ad revenue? Didn't I remember reading that Netflix operates at a net loss or something? Because of all the money it has to pay for studio rights and bandwidth.

    Edit: apologies if this reads terribly naive but I know nothing about this.

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    We finished this out over the past week. It hurts itself in that it continuously applies "maybe we should do this or think of the monster this way" logic and they're always right. That sort of takes away from the overall fantastical nature of the show. If they'd have been wrong about the upside down, or been wrong about the creature's attraction to blood--anything to suggest that there's a danger to over-literalizing one of their predictions, I'd have been more of a fan of this world.

    As it stands, Harbour's excellent in it, and the world does remind me of King's It-world. My annoyance is the overwhelming sense throughout the show that King's gigantic text had far more complexity and heart to it than is exhibited here.

    Hopefully the show doesn't bother to try to save Barb or any other silliness in season two but goes elsewhere.
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    Quote Quoting amberlita (view post)
    That's ridiculous. $5 billion?! Seriously? They make that much money without ad revenue? Didn't I remember reading that Netflix operates at a net loss or something? Because of all the money it has to pay for studio rights and bandwidth.

    Edit: apologies if this reads terribly naive but I know nothing about this.
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    Quote Quoting amberlita (view post)
    That's ridiculous. $5 billion?! Seriously? They make that much money without ad revenue? Didn't I remember reading that Netflix operates at a net loss or something? Because of all the money it has to pay for studio rights and bandwidth.
    Short answer: Netflix is swimming in cash and can afford to overpay for original content.

    They have around 40-50 million subscribers in North America alone. That's upwards of $500 mil revenue per month with no retail supply chain taking a cut. Streaming an HD movie at scale costs pennies, around 7¢ per. They have a small number of employees and their other overhead is limited.

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    I enjoyed this and will of course eagerly watch a sequel, but I'm a little concerned that with the more or less satisfying resolution of season one, the only thing left will be to dig into the existing premise in ways that will dismantle its charm.

    The way they treated Barb in the first season is def a concern, as a lot of critics have voiced. A hard overcorrection on that could be a pain to watch, though.

    Netflix is putting out some pretty awesome content. I am a bit dismayed about their ever-weakening library of licensed films though. If it converts itself to a predominately original content service, I can see myself reducing my subscription to a few months out of the year to catch up rather than an always-there source of new and old things to watch.

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    I feel in complete agreement with DaMU. The show is not really bad, but it's like someone got their recollections of E.T. and The Goonies and made a pastiche of Greatest Hits from it - which in itself is not wrong, but on this case it has no soul and pretty much no original ideas of its own. I also felt like the show was designed to appeal to everything I, as a nerd, will like (AD&D, government conspiracies, Lovecraftian monsters) and I found that kind of artificial as well.

    Unlike many people on this thread, I found Winona Ryder a big motivation to keep watching. Her character is not great but her performance makes it much more compelling than it should be. That and a few classic Horror scenes in the first half of the season (such as the one where they kill Barb in the swimming pool with the teens screwing upstairs) were my favorite parts.

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    Paul Reiser and Sean Astin join season 2. Cool!
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    I thought this was fantastic. Every TV show has plot holes and issues. Also they did address Barb if people were paying attention.

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    I don't have much to add to to the discussion, but I'm a little over halfway through this. It's enjoyable enough with the fun soundtrack and a story that's not often done for TV.

    With that, if this is the 2000's generations' "Are You Afraid of the Dark," well... They win.

    Always funny when physics are explained on paper plates (also Interstellar).

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    Also, I like the Duffer Brother talk about King/Spielberg/horror... Although to me, it's more like three Goosebump books.

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    This was the best thing to come out of the show:


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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    This was the best thing to come out of the show:

    Nah. The best thing to come out of the show is the show. It's fantastic.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Nah. The best thing to come out of the show is the show. It's fantastic.
    Disagree! It's a diverting pastiche and little more.

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    Looks like we have a classic disagreement on our hands!

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Looks like we have a classic disagreement on our hands!
    Oh, boy, what an impasse we've run into!

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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    Oh, boy, what an impasse we've run into!
    Should we fight, or talk it out?

    I'm OK with just agreeing to disagree.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Should we fight, or talk it out?

    I'm OK with just agreeing to disagree.
    Me, too. I don't have the energy.

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    This is truly Match Cut's 2017 season.

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