X-Men: Apocalypse (Bryan Singer)

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Deadpool is better than any X-Men movie.

[Henry Gale]

Deadpool is better than any X-Men movie.

I mean, for me it's just way too obnoxiously self-satisfied, way less original than it thinks it is (thinly disguised with all its fourth-wall breaking, shuffled narrative tricks, and sub-Seth MacFarlane-level reference-comedy), and just generally shallow dudebro cinema at its most unfiltered. I thought it had its moments, but its gag success ratio was probably one laugh for every ten attempts (most of which elicited a quiet "ugh").

X-Men movies even at their worst stick to their convictions and commit to telling their stories with style, from a unique oppressed worldview, and maintain an affable personality. Deadpool basically doesn't have any of those.

Glad it makes people happy though!

Pass!

[Milky Joe]

This was awesome. Pretty much lived up to my expectations completely... I could nitpick some things, but what would be the point? If we get an X-Men film like this every couple of years I'd be satisfied.

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X-Men movies....commit to telling their stories with style....

I disagree with pretty much everything, but this is particularly vexing... Style is the absolute last thing I associate with the X-Men movies. They are all a little clunky, a little square, and a lot edited with a chainsaw.

[Morris Schæffer]

Lol. Yet another oooh soo powerful mega giga villain who is anything but.

[Milky Joe]

Huh?

[Henry Gale]

I disagree with pretty much everything, but this is particularly vexing... Style is the absolute last thing I associate with the X-Men movies. They are all a little clunky, a little square, and a lot edited with a chainsaw.

I guess I meant (at least relegating these thoughts to Singer's X-Men movies) style from an aesthetic design point of view, with camera movement and framing choices that suites the material and observes its space and characters well.

Deadpool just felt like a drab, pedestrian eyesore in those respects to me, as if anything that wasn't pre-vis'd action scenes was shot by a nervous, time-crunched second unit. The best I can say about it is that the costumes looked good and some of the physical gags made me laugh.

[Dukefrukem]

I wanted to like this. I tried to like it.

Pros:
Apocalypse origin is fine
Fassbender. Nightcrawler. Wolverine. Quicksilver: All handled well.
Quicksilver has the most humor and the best scene in the film (again).
X-Force / X-23 tease at the end of the end credit scene?

Cons:
The film is lifeless and dry; just moves from once scene to another. Humorless (with the exception of the quicksilver scene).
Psylocke/Olivia Munn: Why was she in this movie? For that one trailer shot?
Apocalypse is immortal in the comics. But in the movie he's dispatched rather easily.
Jubilee was supposed to be in this... so why wasn't she?
For the first time since X2, we finally have mutant vs mutant fights. The only problem is, after coming on the heels of Batman v Superman and Civil War, the fights are extremely underwhelming.

Everything Morris said here

Lol. Yet another oooh soo powerful mega giga villain who is anything but.

1. X-Men
2. Deadpool
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3. Days of Future Past
4. Apocalypse
5. X2
6. First Class
7. The Wolverine
8. The Last Stand
9. Origins: Wolverine

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Was that the phoenix force taking over Jean Gray?

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[Milky Joe]

1. DOFP
2. X2
3. Apocalypse
4. X-Men
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5. Origins
6. The Wolverine
7. First Class







8. X3

[Watashi]

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Was that the phoenix force taking over Jean Gray?

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Did you not watch the movie?

[Milky Joe]

I don't think he has ever watched an X-Men movie.

[Dukefrukem]

Did you not watch the movie?

Was this supposed to be more obvious or something?

[Milky Joe]

It couldn't have been more obvious.

[Dukefrukem]

The giant red bird. I get it. Jeeze.

[Ivan Drago]

The action is fun and some of the new casting choices are great (I especially loved Tye Sheridan and Sophie Turner as Cyclops and Jean Grey), but good lord, is this movie uneven. The attempt at Avengers-style snark falls flat at almost every joke, heck, the one inspired dramatic moment in the middle of the movie is ruined by another lame stab at comedy. Plus I was curious as to what the new characters would do outside of the action sequences (Jubilee and Psylocke RULED in the cartoon), but they're given absolutely nothing. Also I get the complaints about Apocalypse being a cartoonish villain, but the X-Men movies have always been on the comic-booky side of cheese. But what does bother me is that he's basically another Ultron. This was a letdown.

[Peng]

Didn't watch Origins.

1. Days of Future Past
2. X2: United
3. X-Men: First Class
4. X-Men
5. X-Men: Apocalypse
6. The Wolverine
7. X-Men: The Last Stand
8. Deadpool

[Dukefrukem]

Hah. I dont think Psylocke has a single line in the whole movie.

[Henry Gale]

Between these two:

Jubilee was supposed to be in this... so why wasn't she?

Hah. I dont think Psylocke has a single line in the whole movie.

I gotta refer back to Watashi's question.

Jubilee doesn't use her powers and Psylocke doesn't have much dialogue (and if you watch certain trailers, it seems like even some of her action was cut), but they're definitely there.

[Dukefrukem]

That was supposed to be tongue and cheek. As in, Jubilee was in the movie, but she does absolutely nothing. And Psylocke literally just walks off screen at the end of her "purpose".

[Wryan]

Aye, this be rocky, but I had some fun with it. Didn't like it as much as DoFP, maybe just a touch below FC for me. I think the Xavier/Erik relationship continues to be the hearty throughline in the whole thing, so it baffles me when they try to push Wolverine or Mystique to the front. McAvoy and Fassbender remain committed as hell. Isaac glowers resplendently under burn victim makeup, but I would have liked just a little more oomph--or perhaps oomph that wasn't dependent on voice alteration. He comes and goes within one movie, so he doesn't feel like a heavy presence or threat despite the ancient pedigree and world-ending promises, which is a shame given his stature. The only sequence that earned sustained laughter from me was Quicksilver's--along with Kurt, Quicksilver has the best time, seemingly the only ones having fun as well. The whole thing lacks verve. It's a step down and back.

[Morris Schæffer]

Shockingly kickass and epic. I was aware of the so-so reviews, and I had a vague feeling of disinterest, thinking I was done with the X-Men. Well, it was unexpectedly thrilling and memorable to reconnect with these fellas. It has some of the same issues as Captain America: Civil War in that certain characters do horrid things,[

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but because they redeem themselves those horrid things, like destroying half of Egypt

], are tossed aside cuz hey he's allright!

I appreciated the general lack of mayhem before the grand finale, some scenes have a quietly understated power (That scene in the forest!) and I thought it was good for a change that we actually see some blood and damage done!

So yeah, well done!

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Apocalypse spends most of the movie basically being a recruiter.

[Ezee E]

Does nothing to separate itself from other movies, and Apocalypse may be the lamest villain to lead an X-Men movie. There's nothing to separate this from the previous movies as the highlights seem like they've all been done (and better) in other X-Men movies.

A new direction is needed here, and I hope it's not the Phoenix saga (unless it goes to space). My idea would be to use Genosha or the Savage Land.

[Ezee E]

Mister Sinister would be the ideal next villain, but to learn from Apocalypse, I think a different direction in his look would need to be done.



Just loling at this in live action.

[Dukefrukem]

I think there's real talks about making the next movie set in the cosmos. The problem with doing that is they haven't set a baseline like Marvel has with GotG and Thor.