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    MC Consensus: Iron Curtain Edition

    Submit your FIVE TO TEN favorite films from 'behind the Iron Curtain' and .... eventually .... I will give you a top TEN TO TWENTY. Films should have one of the countries listed below as a country of origin in IMDb:

    Eligible Countries:
    Russia/U.S.S.R (as well as Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Ukraine)
    Poland
    Czech Republic/Slovakia/Czechoslovakia
    Hungary
    Bulgaria
    Romania
    Albania

    Ineligible Countries:
    East Germany (we already covered them in the Germany thread)
    Yugoslavia (and countries formerly a part of Yugoslavia; although Communist, the country is not typically included in the Iron Curtain grouping)

    The point system is as follows

    1st Place- 10 points
    2nd Place - 8 points
    3rd Place - 7 points
    4th Place - 6 points
    5th Place - 5 points
    6th Place - 4.5 points
    7th Place - 4 points
    8th Place - 3.5 points
    9th Place - 3 points
    10th Place - 2.5 points

    (Point system is weighted to give your top film a boost and to minimize the discrepancy between the films in the bottom half of your list.)

    There will be no restrictions on short films. A list must have five films to be eligible. If you list more than ten films, I will assume that the top ten films are the ones you want to receive points. If you do not list your films 1-10, I will assign the points from the top on down.

    If you decide to edit your ballot, please make a new post indicating the changes. I will give at least 24 hours warning before tallying votes.

    If, for some reason, you would like to like to submit your ballot via private message, I will accept those as well. However, your ballot will be revealed after the final results are posted.

    You may begin now.
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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Probably my favorite region.

    1. Solaris
    2. Andrei Rublev
    3. Mirror
    4. Ivan the Terrible, Part II
    5. Tale of Tales
    6. The Devil
    7. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors
    8. Leviathan
    9. The Turin Horse
    10. The Double Life of Veronique

    11. Hedgehog in the Hog
    12. A Short Film About Killing
    13. Winnie Pooh
    14. Werckmeister Harmonies
    15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days
    16. The Ascent
    17. Man with a Movie Camera
    18. I am Cuba
    19. The Cow
    20. The Third Part of the Night

    HMs: The Old Man and the Sea, My Love, Nostalgia, Come and See, Three Colors, The Dekalog
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    1. The Pianist
    2. Son of Saul
    3. Three Colors: Blue
    4. Fateless
    5. Three Colors: Red
    6. Ida
    7. Come and See
    8. Oliver Twist
    9. Solaris
    10. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
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    zero dark thirty - 9
    the muse - 7
    freaky - 7

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    1. Come and See (1985)
    2. The Ear (1970)
    3. The Red and the White (1967)
    4. The Cremator (1969)
    5. The Pied Piper (1986)
    6. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007)
    7. Ashes and Diamonds (1958)
    8. The Return (2003)
    9. Battleship Potemkin (1925)
    10. The Joke (1969)

    It was painful to leave off these:

    11. Freeze Die Come to Life (1990)
    12. Ballad of a Soldier (1959)
    13. By the Law (1926)
    14. The Cranes Are Flying (1957)
    15. Strike (1925)
    16. The Glass Harmonica (1968)
    17. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
    18. Tale of Tales (1979)
    19. October (1927)
    20. Somewhere in Europe (1948)
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    Posted instructions said that you need 10 films to be eligible. I have corrected it. Five is acceptable for this thread. Anything less will not be counted.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    1. The Firemen's Ball
    2. Valerie and Her Week of Wonders
    3. Come and See
    4. The Decalogue
    5. The Shop on Main Street
    6. Witchhammer
    7. The Loves of a Blonde
    8. Ballad of a Soldier
    9. The Cranes Are Flying
    10. Closely Watched Trains

    Love that Czech New Wave.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Well, this is interesting. Not very much overlap between the lists posted thus far. Should be a wide open race.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    1. Red Psalm (Miklós Jancsó, 1972)
    2. Earth (Aleksandr Dovzhenko, 1930)
    3. Ivan the Terrible (Sergei Eisenstein, 1944/58)
    4. The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
    5. The Decalogue (Krzyzstof Kieślowski, 1988)
    6. The Man With the Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
    7. Mother Joan of the Angels (Jerzy Kawalerowicz, 1961)
    8. Ashes and Diamonds (Andrzej Wajda, 1958)
    9. Virile Games (Jan Å*vankmajer, 1988)
    10. Damnation (Béla Tarr, 1988)


    I was tempted to include Atom Egoyan's Calendar (a German-Armenian co-production), but anything post-1991 didn't seem Iron Curtainy enough.
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    Just because...
    The Fabelmans (Steven Spielberg, 2022) mild
    Petite maman (Céline Sciamma, 2021) mild
    The Banshees of Inisherin (Martin McDonagh, 2022) mild

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    Edited my list to make it numerical.
    Just because...
    The Fabelmans (Steven Spielberg, 2022) mild
    Petite maman (Céline Sciamma, 2021) mild
    The Banshees of Inisherin (Martin McDonagh, 2022) mild

    The last book I read was...
    The Complete Short Stories by Mark Twain


    The (New) World

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    maɬni – towards the ocean, towards the shore (Sky Hopinka) ***½
    Without Remorse (Stefano Sollima) *½
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    Beckett (Ferdinando Cito Filomarino) *½
    Night Hunter (David Raymond) *

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    1. The Mirror
    2. Solaris
    3. The Dekalog
    4. The Man with the Movie Camera
    5. Earth
    6. Come and See
    7. I am Cuba
    8. Fantastic Planet
    9. Werckmeister Harmonies
    10. Three Colors: Blue

    HM: Valerie and Her Week of Wonders, Strike, Potemkin, The Ascent, Ivan the Terrible Part II, Stalker

    All of these are absolutely amazing. No weak stuff here, o Iron Curtain.
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    The Boat People - 9
    The Power of the Dog - 7.5
    The King of Pigs - 7

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    1. Man with a Movie Camera
    2. Son of Saul
    3. The Pianist
    4. 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days
    5. Prisoner of the Mountains
    6. Beyond the Hills
    7. Battleship Potemkin
    8. A Short Film About Love
    9. Knife in the Water
    10. The Double Life of Veronique
    Midnight Run (1988) - 9
    The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) - 8.5
    The Adventures of Robinhood (1938) - 8
    Sisters (1973) - 6.5
    Shin Godzilla (2016) - 7.5

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    Just as a reminder, Three Colors:Blue and Three Colors: Red both already earned a spot on our list for France. If you've included those films, I'm going to encourage you to select something else. If you choose to do so, please make a new post, quoting your old list and indicating the changes.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    1. Hukkle (Pálfi)
    2. Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)
    3. The Loves of a Blonde (Forman)
    4. A Short Film About Killing (Kieslowski)
    5. Mother Joan of the Angels (Kawalerowicz)
    6. Closely Watched Trains (Menzel)
    7. I Am Cuba (Kalatozov)
    8. Come and See (Klimov)
    8. A Short Film About Love (Kieslowski)
    10. Night Train (Kawalerowicz)
    ...
    11. King Lear (Kozintsev/Shapiro)
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    1. Final Cut: Ladies and Gentlemen (Pálfi, 2012) Hungary
    2. Khrustalyov, My Car! (German, 1998) Russia
    3. Bibliotheque Pascal (Hajdu, 2010) Romania
    4. Szindbad (Huszárik, 1971) Hungary
    5. Vortex / Duburys (Luksas, 2009) Lithuania
    6. Fehérlófia (Jankovics, 1981) Hungary
    7. Hukkle (Pálfi, 2002) Hungary
    8. The Stone Wedding (Pita, Veroiu, 1973) Romania
    9. The Cremator (Herz, 1969) Czechoslovakia
    10. Daisies (Chytilová, 1966) Czechoslovakia

    Honorable mention: Vinni-Pukh (Khitruk, 1969) Russia

    I almost didn't vote because I haven't seen some of the major players (Stalker, The Mirror, Nostalgia, The Sacrifice). Yeah, I know, what's wrong with me?
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    1. The Ascent (1978)
    2. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000)
    3. Stalker (1979)
    4. The Mirror (1975)
    5. Mother and Son (1997)
    6. Satantango (1994)
    7. The Man with the Movie Camera (1929)
    8. The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1992)
    9. The Cranes Are Flying (1957)
    10. Come and See (1985)

    Man, no Sokurov fans here, huh? I know he's polarizing, but surprised to see him completely shut out so far. Feel like I should have added Russian Ark or Faust just because...
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    We have a varied, interesting top 10-12 that has emerged, but the vote is still very spread out and a lot can change. There's still time to shake up the list if you haven't added your vote already.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    1. The Mirror
    2. Solaris
    3. The Dekalog
    4. The Man with the Movie Camera
    5. Earth
    6. Come and See
    7. I am Cuba
    8. Fantastic Planet
    9. Werckmeister Harmonies
    10. Final Cut: Ladies and Gentlemen (Pálfi, 2012

    HM: Valerie and Her Week of Wonders, Strike, Potemkin, The Ascent, Ivan the Terrible Part II, Stalker

    All of these are absolutely amazing. No weak stuff here, o Iron Curtain.
    Swapped out Kieslowski's Blue. Haven't seen Double Life... in too long.

    Sokurov's films and Daisies have always been on the to-get-to pile, but haven't ever occurred yet. I suspect that Daisies will happen this year, at least.
    Last edited by dreamdead; 03-29-2016 at 01:48 AM.
    The Boat People - 9
    The Power of the Dog - 7.5
    The King of Pigs - 7

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    Quote Quoting dreamdead (view post)
    Sokurov's films and Daisies have always been on the to-get-to pile, but haven't ever occurred yet. I suspect that Daisies will happen this year, at least.
    Daisies is great. Delightfully anarchic. I liked Sokurov's The Sun a lot, and I recall reading it was finally released in the US this year. Recommended (though I suspect you'd prefer Russian Ark).
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    Dreamdead, have you seen Gytis Luksas' 2009 Lithuanian film, Duburys (aka Vortex)? If not you should try to acquire. It's an epic, generational piece of late-period Soviet life in Lithuania. A hard and at times, gloomy, life, to be sure, but impeccably acted and beautifully lensed. I heartily recommend it.


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    Busy work week. Apologies for the delay.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    May not count, but may as well share the love.

    1. The Devil (Zulawski)
    2. Celebration in the Botanical Garden (Havetta)
    3. Birds, Orphans and Fools (Jakubisko)
    4. On the Silver Globe (Zulawski)
    5. The Double Life of Veronique (Kieslowski)
    6. Days of Eclipse (Sokurov)
    7. Mother and Son (Sokurov)
    8. Marketa Lazarova (Vlacil)
    9. The Temptation of St. Tony (Ounpuu)
    10. Visitor of a Museum (Lopushansky)
    11. Miraculous Virgin (Oher)
    12. Andrei Rublev (Tarkovsky)
    13. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (Parajanov)
    14. Tuesday, After Christmas (Muntean)
    15. Werckmeister Harmonies (Tarr)
    16. I Am Twenty (Khutsiyev)
    17. The Cremator (Herz)
    18. The Hour-Glass Sanatorium (Has)
    19. Freeze, Die, Come to Life! (Kanevsky)
    20. The Second Circle (Sokurov)

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