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    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

    Just got back. It's boring, unexciting, i felt no euphoria with the titular titans. In spite of all the flash and fx in the world, this movie succeeds in rendering bats and supes ordinary. They're vessels for bringing down noise and excess on unfortunate moviegoers. i think that affleck's portrayal of batman is faintly intriguing but he's in a shitty movie. This is what the trailers promised and boy did it deliver.
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    Given my usual opinion on Snyder, my reaction will probably be written off as a hater, but my god, this was unfathomably bad. It was not just boring as hell, it's unnecessarily confusing. The movie is called Batman v Superman, and yet when the one and only fight starts, I was not clear on why they're fighting. The movie starts with a good enough reason, which is Bruce Wayne being pissed about the destruction of Metropolis, but then there's a whole two hours afterwards of government hearings and The Flash warning from the future and Luthor doing something or other and I didn't understand any of it. Holy shit, why would you make a movie like this this complicated? Just utterly shit.

    The Justice League cameos were the worst "wink wink future franchise" derailing of a movie since Iron Man 2.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    The movie is called Batman v Superman, and yet when the one and only fight starts, I was not clear on why they're fighting.
    I've read this from a few sources, so you're not alone.

    Also, I heard that Batman is .... uh .. .different?

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    Jesus Christ, what the fuck were they thinking? How do you take a character like Batman and have him do that?

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    Jesus Christ, what the fuck were they thinking? How do you take a character like Batman and have him do that?
    Because Zack Snyder.
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    I will be on schadenfreude overload reading the reviews for this.
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Can't wait for the explanation as to why [
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    It seems like the only people really excited about this movie are Trump supporters. I'm absolutely loving this crash and burn. WB must be sweating like crazy. No way does Justice League come out next year. I have a feeling they will sideline that and push forward Affleck's solo Bat film.
    Sure why not?

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    This now officially has a lower Tomatometer score than Tommy Wiseau's The Room.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    This now officially has a lower Tomatometer score than Tommy Wiseau's The Room.
    Still higher than My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 though.
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    Still shocked. I didn't think it was possible for Warners to fuck up this badly. How do they manage to produce good TV and yet mediocre movies --- based on the same characters?

    I don't know how much the Tomatometer matters outside US fandom. This movie will release in 4,000 theaters in the US and 82 countries near-simultaneously. I wouldn't be surprised if it pushed ~$600 million, as other badly received tentpoles did (Iron Man 2, Thor: The Dark World, Man of Steel).

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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    WB must be sweating like crazy. No way does Justice League come out next year.
    Unless the worldwide gross this weekend bails it out.
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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    It seems like the only people really excited about this movie are Trump supporters.
    Now I can't even want to see a Batman/Superman movie without being a Trump supporter? Man, that is the trolliest thing I've ever seen you post.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)

    Also, I heard that Batman is .... uh .. .different?

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    Jesus Christ, what the fuck were they thinking? How do you take a character like Batman and have him do that?
    I fail to see the problem here. It's a reinterpretation of the character, possibly appropriate for the times we live in. No holds barred, relentless, violent, grim, but as I said this Batman is part of a messy movie which still makes it impossible to feel anything for the character.
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    I fail to see the problem here. It's a reinterpretation of the character, possibly appropriate for the times we live in. No holds barred, relentless, violent, grim, but as I said this Batman is part of a messy movie which still makes it impossible to feel anything for the character.
    Yeah, honestly, I was so bored and restless by the movie that by the time he started mowing people down with guns I couldn't be bothered to muster any nerdrage about it.

    It's meant to be Frank Miller's Batman anyway. The big scene where he overtly shoots someone to death is adapted verbatim from a scene in Dark Knight Returns.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    I'm guessing I should just watch Dark Knight Returns again until this comes out for rent?
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    Can't thank you enough for the spoiler tags guys. I typically don't read these threads until I see the movie but I was too tempted this morning. So you guys saved me.
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    By the way, Eisenberg's performance is even more manic than the trailers suggest (can you believe they used the most subdued parts?), but even so, he's not the worst thing about this Luthor. The character is all over the place. I don't even fully understand why he's getting Batman and Superman to fight.

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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    It's meant to be Frank Miller's Batman anyway. The big scene where he overtly shoots someone to death is adapted verbatim from a scene in Dark Knight Returns.
    Batman shoots someone to death in Dark Knight Returns?
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    Quote Quoting Melville (view post)
    Batman shoots someone to death in Dark Knight Returns?
    It's this scene. I know it's obscured enough to debate about in the comic (and it has been debated on for decades now), but clearly Snyder interprets it a certain way.



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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    It's this scene. I know it's obscured enough to debate about in the comic (and it has been debated on for decades now), but clearly Snyder interprets it a certain way.
    Ah, I see. Yeah, that scene is strangely ambiguous. Given that later in the comic, multiple people explicitly say Batman's never killed anyone, and he doesn't kill the Joker, I always assumed he either just wounded the guy or shot next to him to frighten him (which would fit with the mutant's facial expression but not with the apparent blood splatter). But I remember Snyder saying he likes the Comedian from Watchmen because "he's a bad ass", so I can see him interpreting this scene as Batman killing the guy.
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    He made it more explicit. In the movie [
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Ha. I think I'll take a pass on this one. Still haven't seen Snyder's other superhero movies.
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    This begins and ends OK. I liked the reframing of MoS' end through Wayne's point of view, and the climatic fight has more variety and players (including one or two that has different vulnerabilities) than the endless loop that is last film's climax. Almost everything in between, however, is bad. If I watched this at home, I would fast-forward through every scene with Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor. The actor isn't actually bad for me, per se (he and Gadot seem the only ones to have some fun), but the material he was given is truly atrocious.
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