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Thread: Star Wars Episode VII The Force Awakens (Abrams 2015) -- SPOILERS THERE ARE.

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    Quote Quoting Weems (view post)
    Bad acting,
    ... :\ Wut?

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    This is the best acted Star Wars movie by an extremely large margin. In fact I think Ford and Fisher were the worst actors in it.
    Yep. Gleason is terrible, however.
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    Star Wars: The Backlash Awakens
    Um, is it really a backlash when right from the start all of the reviews in this thread all have similar criticisms?
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    So this movie improved a significant bit upon a second viewing, to where most of my issues with it didn't bother me in the least the second time around. I had initially wrote a really long review that sorta went into a slight bit of a rant at first, but have since adjusted it accordingly, while still mostly keeping that rant intact, for anyone curious to give a look: http://cwiddop.blogspot.com/2015/12/...-darkness.html

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    I absolutely loved it. Was dreading the idea of having the same reaction to this as I did to Phantom Menace when I walked out of that.

    Here, this, reminds me exactly of why I liked Star Wars. Yes, there's absolutely some slips here, and I'll get to those in a minute, but first, I haven't been giddy like this in a movie, since.... well, tends to only happen when I see a Tarantino or a Scorsese. This exceeded that though.

    The casting of the primary new leads is spot on, and they will have fan fiction written about them for years to come. Finn and Rey are so good that they are actually more fun to watch than Han Solo, and he's in fine form here too. The first hour, as we begin to see the new world, is really admirable. I just wish that they took more time with Poe to show how truly great of a pilot that he is, considering he reads like the main character in the title crawl. BB-8 gets the "cute" role, and pulls it off. This is what I imagine George Lucas pictured Jar Jar Binks coming across like in his head.

    The movie takes on the same traits as a New Hope, and for me, that's fine, because now it can go into it's new direction. I think that was discussed above. There's also a much younger leadership system here, and I haven't quite analyzed to what that means. All the new leaders are less than 35 it seems. No Moff Tarkin, Emperor Palptaine, or Anakin... But yes, why does Kylo Ren have such hate? I'm not convinced of his character, but I definitely like his ruthless anger when it presents itself. I do think Driver is kind of a weak actor when the helmet is removed.

    There are certainly plot conveniences here. Can anyone explain to me why Han Solo was around Jakku? Was so easy for those to connect, and a little TOO easy. Same deal with R2D2, but it makes sense to me that Rey is Luke Skywalker's daughter. Can't imagine what other possibility it would be? Also, wouldn't Luke Skywalker have even more grief if he were to discover that multiple planets were destroyed because he simply took refuge?

    Captain Phasma, mostly misused, but certainly an interesting character. I'm hoping there's some good info about her elsewhere.

    So yes, certainly not without its faults, but I had so much fun watching the movie, and am so intrigued with this universe again, that I can't help but say that it did exceed expectations that were quite high. This is certainly deserving to be part of the Star Wars saga, and I cannot wait for the future ones. Bring 'em on.

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    A lot of story retreats and flaws, for sure. But I'm so in love with these new characters that it doesn't really matter that much. The four actors really nail it. Unlike some, I really dig what Driver did with the role, and Isaac makes up for his short screentime with some insanely magnetic charisma. Daisy Ridley is a true find, though.

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    This is the best Star Wars movie outside of Empire.
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    I actually didn't like Isaac's character much at all - he's a bit of a void.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    I actually didn't like Isaac's character much at all - he's a bit of a void.
    Agreed. Replace him with anyone and it's the same movie.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    \Can't imagine what other possibility it would be? Also, wouldn't Luke Skywalker have even more grief if he were to discover that multiple planets were destroyed because he simply took refuge?
    In his defense, he left years before Starkiller base was built.

    I'd imagine, he left because he was the last remaining Jedi. And if the new order found him, that would be it. End of Jedi. He entrusts R2D2 with the bulk of the map so whenever his daughter was old enough, she would seek him out.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Um, is it really a backlash when right from the start all of the reviews in this thread all have similar criticisms?
    It was a joke.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    In his defense, he left years before Starkiller base was built.

    I'd imagine, he left because he was the last remaining Jedi. And if the new order found him, that would be it. End of Jedi. He entrusts R2D2 with the bulk of the map so whenever his daughter was old enough, she would seek him out.
    That'll do. I guess!

    Still, my biggest question is why was it so easy to introduce Han Solo. WHY did he happen to be around Jakku? I figure I missed a piece of dialog because nobody has this thought.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Still, my biggest question is why was it so easy to introduce Han Solo. WHY did he happen to be around Jakku? I figure I missed a piece of dialog because nobody has this thought.
    He said something referencing how easy it was for him to track the Falcon. It still seemed really quick to me and then 2 other crews found him almost immediately. I figured they skipped some time passing between taking off and being caught in the tractor beam.

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    Quote Quoting Mr. McGibblets (view post)
    He said something referencing how easy it was for him to track the Falcon. It still seemed really quick to me and then 2 other crews found him almost immediately. I figured they skipped some time passing between taking off and being caught in the tractor beam.
    Ah, so when the Millennium Falcon got activated, they were able to locate it? Sure. But yeah, they sure arrived pretty damn quickly. I think this part may be the most convenient part of the movie.

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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    The weapon is actually called the Starkiller base or something like that. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
    It... Kills stars? Literally? When all the sun's energy is drained, it dies. I thought it was a nice nod to the nerds, it being the original Skywalker name.

    OH and - saw it in IMAX 3D and it was absolutely amazing. From the second we see the Falcon all the way to the end I had tears in my eyes. I adored all of the characters right away and I could literally not care less about the familiar plot line.

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    I adored all of the characters right away and I could literally not care less about the familiar plot line.
    Yes, exactly. There's plenty of new things going on to admire in my opinion.

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    Quote Quoting [ETM] (view post)
    It... Kills stars? Literally? When all the sun's energy is drained, it dies. I thought it was a nice nod to the nerds, it being the original Skywalker name.
    I hope for your sake you're not implying I might not have known that.
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    Agreed. Replace him with anyone and it's the same movie.
    Same here.
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    I hope for your sake you're not implying I might not have known that.
    I tend to overexplain with facts in order to avoid further clarification on the subject, as well as put stuff out there for those who might not know. I know you're a mega-nerd Morris.

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    Quote Quoting [ETM] (view post)
    I tend to overexplain with facts in order to avoid further clarification on the subject, as well as put stuff out there for those who might not know. I know you're a mega-nerd Morris.
    As long as we're clear on that last bit everything's cool.
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    You guys are assuming that

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    I am. To both.

    Would be a great twist if the latter weren't true, but there's nothing to indicate otherwise.

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    you guys saying isaac could have been replaced with anyone are nuts

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    you guys saying isaac could have been replaced with anyone are nuts
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    Quote Quoting Acapelli (view post)
    you guys saying isaac could have been replaced with anyone are nuts
    We're not saying isaac could have been replaced by anyone. We're saying his character could have.
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