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    Match Cut Director Consensus -- Robert Rodriguez

    Alrighty, so we're on to week five of the consensus. PLEASE review the rules and information contained in the main thread:

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    Week Five: Robert Rodriguez

    Barbarian - ***
    Bones and All - ***
    Tar - **


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    Desperado - 6
    From Dusk Till Dawn - 7.5
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico - 4.5
    Sin City - 7
    The Adventures of Shark Boy and Lava Girl - 1
    Planet Terror - 6.5
    Sure why not?

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (Rian Johnson) - 9
    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
    LADY BIRD (Greta Gerwig) - 8


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    El Mariachi - 4
    Desperado - 7
    From Dusk Till Dawn - 8.5
    Once Upon A Time In Mexico - 6
    Sin City - 7.5
    Planet Terror - 8.5

    Barbarian - ***
    Bones and All - ***
    Tar - **


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    1. El Mariachi (1992) 6.0
    2. Desperado (1995) 6.5
    3. From Dusk Til Dawn (1996) 5.0
    4. The Faculty (1998) 6.0
    5. Spy Kids (2001) 5.5
    6. Sin City (2005) 6.5
    7. Planet Terror (2007) 7.0
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    El Mariachi 6.0
    Desperado 3.5
    From Dusk Till Dawn 9.0
    Spy Kids 3-D 7.0
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico 5.5
    Sin City 9.5
    Planet Terror 7.5

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    El Mariachi 5
    Desperado 6.5
    From Dusk Til Dawn 4
    The Faculty 4.5
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico 4
    Sin City 6.5
    Planet Terror 5
    In Front of Your Face (Hong Sang-soo, 2021) - 6
    Introduction (Hong Sang-soo, 2021) - 6
    True Mothers (Naomi Kawase, 2020) - 8
    Wheel of Fortune and Fantasy - (Ryusuke Hamaguchi, 2021) - 7
    Wife of a Spy (Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 2020) - 7
    The Power of the Dog (Jane Campion, 2021) - 9
    Don't Look Up - (Adam McKay, 2021) - 4
    The Matrix Resurrections (Lana Wachowski, 2021) - 4.5
    Benedetta (Paul Verhoeven, 2021) - 7

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    Whoo I call the first Spy Kids triple threat!

    From Dusk Til Dawn - 5.5/10
    Spy Kids - 5.5/10
    Spy Kids 2 - 5.5/10 (tempted for a 6, I really enjoy this one for some reason)
    Spy Kids 3 - 2.5/10
    Sin City - 6/10
    Planet Terror - 6.5/10
    The Act of Killing (Oppenheimer 13) - A
    Stranger by the Lake (Giraudie 12) - B
    American Hustle (Russell 13) - C+
    The Wolf of Wall Street (Scorsese 13) - C+
    Passion (De Palma 12) - B

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    Surprised by the low scores for Dawn.

    What was not to like?
    Sure why not?

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (Rian Johnson) - 9
    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
    LADY BIRD (Greta Gerwig) - 8


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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    Surprised by the low scores for Dawn.

    What was not to like?
    I can see people not liking it because of the second half, even though it's just like anything in Planet Terror. Plus, Quentin is pretty annoying, and Clooney wasn't yet a good actor.

    I find it incredibly fun though, and it might just be his best movie thus far. It's too bad he dedicated so much time to those Spy Kids movies.

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    Bones and All - ***
    Tar - **


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    Desperado 6.5
    From Dusk Till Dawn 8.0
    The Faculty 4.5
    Spy Kids 6.0
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico 7.0
    Sin City 7.0
    Planet Terror 6.0
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    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    El Mariachi - 5
    Desperado - 3
    From Dusk Til Dawn - 7
    The Faculty - 7
    Spy Kids - 7.5
    Spy Kids 2 - 6
    Spy Kids 3 - 7
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico - 6.5
    Sin City - 7
    Sharkboy and Lavagirl - 1
    Planet Terror - 7

    Better than I thought he'd fare with me. I guess I generally find his stuff "fun", if not very engaging. Except for goddamn Sharkboy and Lavagirl, which is up there with the worst experiences I've ever had.

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    El Mariachi - 7
    Desperado - 4
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico - 7
    Sin City - 2
    Planet Terror - 6
    Giving up in 2020. Who cares.

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    I still can like films I give a 5 or 5.5. There's a lot to like about From Dusk Til Dawn. 4.5 and lower is the necessary "Dislike."

    I've heard from numerous peoples that I need to see The Faculty post haste, so it's too bad to see it get a lot of "Lowest Rated" scores.
    The Act of Killing (Oppenheimer 13) - A
    Stranger by the Lake (Giraudie 12) - B
    American Hustle (Russell 13) - C+
    The Wolf of Wall Street (Scorsese 13) - C+
    Passion (De Palma 12) - B

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    I'll be seeing The Faculty within the week.

    There's only one thing not to like about From Dusk Till Dawn.
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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    I'll be seeing The Faculty within the week.

    There's only one thing not to like about From Dusk Till Dawn.
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    I thought it was pretty funny.

    Too gruesome for you?
    Sure why not?

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (Rian Johnson) - 9
    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
    LADY BIRD (Greta Gerwig) - 8


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    I thought it was pretty funny.

    Too gruesome for you?
    Too stupid. Too frequently cut to. Too stupid.

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    I don't get the love for The Faculty. I know Trans considers it Rodriguez's best, but I just see a hack-script by Williamson directed with no passion by Rodriguez. The entire movie feels like it's going through the motions, there is nothing even faintly memorable about any of it.
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    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    Too stupid. Too frequently cut to. Too stupid.
    Most of that sequence has the same sense of cheesy/cheeky humor. Do you hate the gag with the eyeballs rolling into the pool table corners?
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    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    Quote Quoting Rowland (view post)
    Most of that sequence has the same sense of cheesy/cheeky humor. Do you hate the gag with the eyeballs rolling into the pool table corners?
    That one, sir, is genius.

    Since I don't rate anymore, I'll just comment that Sin City and From Dusk Till Dawn are his best films. The rest are kinda blah.

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    El Mariachi - 5.5
    From Dusk Til Dawn - 7
    The Faculty - 7
    Spy Kids - 6
    Sin City - 6.5
    Planet Terror - 6

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    El Mariachi - 5
    Desperado - 5.5
    From Dusk Till Dawn - 6
    The Faculty - 4.5
    Sin City - 4
    Planet Terror - 8
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
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    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
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    Most of that sequence has the same sense of cheesy/cheeky humor. Do you hate the gag with the eyeballs rolling into the pool table corners?
    No, I'm fine with, really, pretty much everything else in the film. That one gag is the only thing in the movie I hate. I'd have let it pass were it only cut two once or twice, but the fact that the prop is so ugly and the joke isn't that good, yet we keep seeing it as if it were worth seeing again and again... that gets my ire up.

    My hatred for this gag borders on legendary in my circle of friends. Ask iosos. I've stood in parking lots, screaming about how much I hate that fucking thing.

    I'm willing to concede that my hatred is at least a little irrational.

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    No, I'm fine with, really, pretty much everything else in the film. That one gag is the only thing in the movie I hate. I'd have let it pass were it only cut two once or twice, but the fact that the prop is so ugly and the joke isn't that good, yet we keep seeing it as if it were worth seeing again and again... that gets my ire up.
    I thought he was just cutting to the band playing during the sequence for a sort of rhythmic editing. The body parts used as instruments were just an incidental visual detail. It's not like every shot of the band was a closeup of the ribcage guitar.
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    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    I don't get the love for The Faculty. I know Trans considers it Rodriguez's best, but I just see a hack-script by Williamson directed with no passion by Rodriguez.

    And that's why it's probably his best: he didn't screw it up with his "artisitic" impulses.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    And that's why it's probably his best: he didn't screw it up with his "artisitic" impulses.
    There was nothing there to screw up anyway. Blankness begets blankness begets boredom on my part.
    Letterboxd rating scale:
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